whats the minimum ninjutsu level needed to solo NM in abyssea?

[hordecore]

and whats the minimum evasion needed?

[Kensagaku]

First off, I'd like to suggest that you do not aim for "minimum" levels to solo in Abyssea. This constitutes a lazy playstyle, and could build bad habits that will get you killed on NMs that suddenly have a difficulty spike you're not expecting.

However, to answer your question: what I suggest for "minimums" is the cap for whatever level cap happened to be opened up in that area. That means in visions areas, go for the 80 cap (294), in scars areas go for the 85 cap (324) and in Heroes areas go to the 90 cap (354). Also remember that gear plays a big part. Even with capped evasion, without proper evasion gear you will find the more accurate mobs still will give you plenty of trouble. Same goes for Ninjutsu; at very least you can use your AF head (I have it macroed in for all of my debuffs) to lower the resistance rate some. Naturally, aim to cap them off as you go along; capped skills will still be more effective than the "minimum" skills in all areas.

[Korpg]

and whats the minimum evasion needed?

Capped skill on all available weaponskills and magicskills.

And also "capped" playing skills. A level 90 NIN can solo anything if they have the best thinking skills and know what they are facing.

[wish12oz]

Go play dancer or something and don't crap up my job with your laziness and bad play style.

[Orenwald]

I think he may have meant the minimum to START doing it wish. Personally I was soloing Scars NMs starting with about an 84~85 cap skill on my NIN 90 and used those NMs solo to cap all my skills before I started doin' stuff with other people.

Aslong as your gear is good and you don't physically suck at NIN you should do OK

[Caesaris]

While met with much animosity, this is actually a good question. I just dinged 87 in a looong Dominion Ops party (went from 73-87 in like 5 hrs), so naturally, none of my skills are capped. But i'd still like to go after a few NM's if I could. My katana skill is under 300, and my ninjitsu is under 250, so i know i'm pretty gimped on skills.

I'm used to solo'ing mobs with BST, PUP, BLU, PLD and BLM... so as a veteran of ffxi solo gameplay, i'd like to think i'm up to par in that regard. Of course, this is a roleplaying game, and you're only as good as a combination of your skill, your characters skills, and your gear. Being cut from the old school BST cloth, i'm willing to just throw myself out there and see how things go. I'll read a little online to see how others may have beaten the mob, and use that as a blueprint to do my own thang!

[Anathiel]

I'm curious about this myself.

[Cdryik]

when i came back to FF (it was during Abyssea Vision), i used to skill on NM mostly solo, Khalamari was my first one, really easy and drop varangian helm, i was nin/rdm (mostly for fast cast and all i had was only Atma MM), i should recommand you to start working Dual Evasion trial, it'll be very helpfull to solo with uncaped evasion skill.
Then new zone was released and i started working on My AF legs+1, Minax Bugard was my target, i started as /rdm then when i got more atma, i did /dnc, got no trouble to kill him as solo. There's plenty of NM you can solo and get some nice skill up, if you wan't to learn how to solo as Ninja, you should start with NM.

[katz]

You may also want to test your solo abilities in the appropriate zones. Mobs in Visions of Abyssea areas were based on people being 75-80 and therefore they may be lower than the mobs in the Heros Of Abyssea areas

[Juxtaposition]

you can't solo anything in abyssea until your ninjutsu and evasion are capped.

[Kuroganashi]

you can't solo anything in abyssea until your ninjutsu and evasion are capped.

Not Necessarily, I Solo'd stuff with 50 lvls below the cap skill , so 300~304+ you are good to "SOLO" Stuff but of course
354 + Cap merits = make you an Amazing Machine :D hehe....

[Zanoza]

While met with much animosity, this is actually a good question. I just dinged 87 in a looong Dominion Ops party (went from 73-87 in like 5 hrs), so naturally, none of my skills are capped. But i'd still like to go after a few NM's if I could. My katana skill is under 300, and my ninjitsu is under 250, so i know i'm pretty gimped on skills.

I'm used to solo'ing mobs with BST, PUP, BLU, PLD and BLM... so as a veteran of ffxi solo gameplay, i'd like to think i'm up to par in that regard. Of course, this is a roleplaying game, and you're only as good as a combination of your skill, your characters skills, and your gear. Being cut from the old school BST cloth, i'm willing to just throw myself out there and see how things go. I'll read a little online to see how others may have beaten the mob, and use that as a blueprint to do my own thang!

you can start as soon as you hit 90 even with those skills, but try a lower tier NM to test out if you can handle it.
when i hit 90 thf my eva was capped for a 90 blu and ninjutsu skill helps as a sub but not 100% needed to get shadows to land. i went out and tried to solo Marvin in la thiene platue due to its high double attack rate it was indeed a chalenge but doable. it got easier the more skills in eva i got and the more i worked on my eva set. so minumin doesnt matter really to start soloing aby NM's as long as you plan to work on your skill and gear at the same time as you solo the lower tier NM's to get practice for the HIgher teir NM's. /dnc is good for nin to help keep you alive and less reliant on meds like thf needs for soloing NM's. and for the sake of other jobs DO NOT MERIT EVA it takes away possible weapon merits from any other melee jobs you have, and you can make up for it by useing an eva set.

[Kuroganashi]

Again , It is possible to do SOLO without being CAP , I done it XD (That is how I managed to get CAP)

[Mojo]

It depends mostly on what you're trying to solo, although I do think that in all cases where I have solo'd something I could have probably done it regardless of what my ninjutsu skill was. Evasion plays a pivotal role in most rewarding solos, so make sure to cap that. I have 4 merits in evasion because I enjoy ninja more than any other job. There's no reason to forego defensive combat skill merits in order to strengthen other jobs if that's not what you want to do.

[jimberry0925]

For my personal experience, you'll do fine with about 300 ninjutsu and about 290 evasion. But note, anything under the cap for ninjutsu will make your enfeebles suck on the mob. Anything under the cap for evasion, and you'll spend more time rotating shadows than fully damaging the enemy.

Being capped should be stressed, especially evasion. Trust me, you'll rather have DD or Haste gear to make the job easier/faster than having to substitute all your equipment slots for evasion.

[Kirana]

Capping your evasion takes a few minutes in abyssea with regen/pdt atmas and a lot of mandies, go do it now. Capping ninjutsu takes a bit longer, but is by no means difficult. You should be able to do it within one evening of spamming nukes/enfeebles on exp mobs.

You should always try to keep your priorities straight. There are very easy things to do in the game that improve your job tremendously (skillups, for instance). There are very hard/time consuming things to do that improve your job less than skillups would (like soloing that NM 20 times for a single piece of gear).

[Shiyo]

Go play dancer or something and don't crap up my job with your laziness and bad play style.

It's ok all the fotm nin's will go away again and become sam's and war's after abyssea is done(95/99).

Capping ninjitsu is also hell and made me want to kill someone.

[Babekeke]

You can solo anything as long as you can keep yourself alive for long enough to make the group of people waiting for you to kill it offer to kill it for you (and likely proc it and offer TH on it).

The trick is to accept their help and not make them sit there for an hour waiting for you, because that's not a good way to make friends.

[Tamoa]

If you take an hour soloing something as nin, you're doing it wrong. :/