Costumes

[Amalah]

Hi all! :)

There are certainly a lot of nice looking equipment available to wear in this game. However to be at your most efficient you have to mix and match what you wear which doesn't always look great. There are also some very beautiful but weak pieces of clothing that I would love to wear too.

I think it would be nice if we had a costume system.
The costume could be turned on to overwrite the look of the items you are currently wearing and without adjusting stats.
You could select any items that you currently own to be costume pieces.

Personally I would love to go charging into battle wearing my Wedding Dress. It's superficial, but it sure would be fun. ;)

[Revalus]

Many MMOs have a "social equipment tab" that does precisely what you're suggesting. It would be nice to have, since I've been using the same sets of equipment for my jobs up to around 30 at least.

[Teakwood]

This is an interesting idea. While I personally enjoy being able to see at a glance what people are actually wearing, and I've enjoyed watching the colour scheme of Lower Jeuno change over the past two years as AF3 and Abyssea gear came into the picture, I wouldn't necessarily be averse to this sort of thing. (Especially if, in the process, it removed the 'blinking' effect from a character gear swapping mid-fight; an in-system solution to the blinking problem would be phenomenal.)

[PizzaTheHut]

I play other MMOs and they have exactly this. Costume slots. They can be sold but have no stats on them and you can place it in the costume slot to cover your battle equipment.

Not only that their are hat, necklace etc. slots to.

[Callidor]

I really, really don't like this idea, and the costume system always bothered me when I played LotRO. I like that people's appearances reflect their actual equipment, and that you can tell at a glance, as Teakwood said, what gear people are actually using. I understand, however, that I'm in the minority on this issue, so I'm just going to have to hope that it'll be impractical due to ps2 limitations...

[Amalah]

It might never happen, but we can dream. :)
I didn't realize so many other games had a system like this already. Only other MMO I've played is Perfect World and that's where I saw it.

As a side note, PS2 is really holding back what this game could be capable of. :(

[Wenceslao]

Due PS2 limitations i doubt it, but i would like to see a mithra fighting on a wedding dress ^^, that would be really cute

[PizzaTheHut]

Or they could add the costume slots that would allow you to run around in full AF or whatever set you like but the stats wouldn't be active. ;)

[Amalah]

That's what I had in mind. :)

I hope it would be something possible for SE to do. :eek:

[kaht]

I'm not a big fan of this suggestion, but it would solve the "blinking problem" - which isn't necessarily a problem to everyone.

[Wenceslao]

That blinking problems, it's a pain for all WHM, lol

[kaht]

That blinking problems, it's a pain for all WHM, lol

But it's a boon to some people that can take advantage of it - like swapping gear right before you provoke while kiting a mob, so that you blink out and don't get frozen by the provoke animation.

[oliveira]

I aways loved the WHM job but indeed the blinking problem is ultra annoying. But I suppose players learned to "exploit" it in their favor when being /check harassed and that might have why SE never bothered with solving it.

[kaht]

But I suppose players learned to "exploit" it in their favor when being /check harassed and that might have why SE never bothered with solving it.

If you manually type /check <playername> WITHOUT having them targeted, their equipment check screen doesn't disappear when they switch gear.

[Registeel]

I have an innate fear that people would be running around in the level 50 subligar as their costume...

But really, I do rather like the idea of being able to appear differently from what you have equipped. I'd definitely don my Iron Musketeer gear again on PLD... many good memories tied to that armor.

[Dubberrucky]

If it solved the blinking problem I would be on this like white on rice.

[Amalah]

The blinking problem never occured to me when I first suggested this, getting rid of that would be the icing on the cake for me, though I can see why some people would still want it. Personally I always hated switching equipment and then losing the lock on the mob I was fighting.

I suppose there could be a toggle in the game settings, so that if you don't want to see other people's costumes you could turn the effect off.

Or for those who are concerned with knowing what gear their team mates are wearing SE could make it so you can't hide you character information if you choose to be wearing a costume. That way you could still check the player out.

[Eadieni]

Everquest 2 and LOTRO have that "Appearance" tab where you equip an appearance item that covers the slot of the actual item so you can walk around in gear you can't use yet, like using hecatomb on your alts (but not really) to prove to people your not a noob (much of one). Except in EQ2 you can do weapons also, lotro only armor.

It's a great feature because a lot of items just do not go together. And some older, nice looking items, never get used again. I'd prob hang onto some older stuff just for looks.

[Amalah]

Everquest 2 and LOTRO have that "Appearance" tab where you equip an appearance item that covers the slot of the actual item so you can walk around in gear you can't use yet, like using hecatomb on your alts (but not really) to prove to people your not a noob (much of one). Except in EQ2 you can do weapons also, lotro only armor.

It's a great feature because a lot of items just do not go together. And some older, nice looking items, never get used again. I'd prob hang onto some older stuff just for looks.

If it gets implemented here I think it would be fair if you needed to have a job at the correct level to equip an item in the costume slot. I don't know why it just feels right. And possibly you would have to be the correct job to use them too, not totally decided on that one yet though.

[CrystalWeapon]

Having one or more extra slots added to the equipment tab (or a new equipment menu for costumes) that served no purpose other than entertainment value by changing your apperance would solve alot of the woes for a hairdresser :P

I'm thinking use it more for minor astetic changes rather than full body costumes.

Add in a hairstyle / wig slot that equips over your current hair like a helmet erasing it and replacing it with this one.

Or another example is, personally I've always wanted to be a sly animal race. Galkan's don't cut it for me b/c I'm not a big guy irl, and as a man, I refuse to play on a girl character. Could use the head slot to attach on fake ears, use a cape slot to attach on a tail.

It may seem like stupid entertainment features but personally I don't like a game being serrious buisness 24/7 it's fun to goof off / play around / and show your creative side. Would be nice to permanently have wings, halos, ears, tails, glasses, necklaces, capes, belts, auras, etc that showed permanently on you and did not take up a useful equipment slot. Would add a little bit of customization to the monotonous end game gear sets to add in a few extra personal features.

If it isn't something you'd use then don't use it. If the fact that players would all be wearing goofy things would annoy you, you need to loosen up a bit. :P

[Amalah]

Interesting ideas, I'm all for more variety. :D

[Anapingofness]

I really like this idea. ^_^ Actually, it's a subject I've brought up with my sis (another FF fan).
Overall, I have to say I've had my issues with FFX-2 but one of it's more fun aspects was the fact that the costumes looked so fun.

I think it would really add to the immersion in the game if players had a costumes/casual clothes type of thing. Maybe even an inventory bag of its own.
While we're at it- is it possible to throw in a jump and swim button as well? I realize that I'm asking for a lot here but Vana d'iel is a beautiful, vast, world and it saddens me that we, the players, have such little interaction with it. Maybe I may post this as its own thread in a bit, but for now, just adding my own two cents. =D

[hiko]

That blinking problems, it's a pain for all WHM, lol

learn to <stpt> <stal>

[Alkalinehoe]

Great idea! Now i can fulltime my Wicca panties. ;D

[Yenrii]

This is a great idea! Besides possibly solving the blinking issue, which is incredibly annoying for certain jobs, a costume slot would add another layer of diversity to character appearances. I think a lot of players are really pushing for the game to have more character design features like XIV, so it's definitely something to look into.

[bishop]

I see this always comes down to ps2 limitations and if so. Ps2, the reason we can't have nice things.

[Amalah]

There aren't many suggestion threads where PS2 doesn't get a mention, lol.

[Coldbrand]

Spiral Knights does this and it's awesome. I'm all for overlaying my gear with set armor of my choice.

[Amalah]

I've never tried that game but it looks fun, if it wasn't in closed beta I would give it a try, would be a nice way to pass this downtime. If it's not still in beta let me know, I might have just been looking at really out of date information, lol.

[Myrrh]

Would be nice if SE just banned Ps2 users.

[Megatron]

i know why dont we all just sit in town and do each others hair and nails too?
/slap
you want to play dress up go by a barbie or play IMVU (www.imvu.com)

[Kailea_Nagisa]

it does not sound like to bad of an idea, a second tab could be added to the equipment screen, and have just the visible slots of your armor there, equip what you want there, and that is what will show for your character, but what you ahve in the main equipment screen is what will be used for stat calculation. If you don't have anything equipped in a slot on the second tab, then it will just show what you have equipped in the main tab. I will admit I would love to look like the DRG I want to look like if I wanted to. ;p

[cidbahamut]

I see this always comes down to ps2 limitations and if so. Ps2, the reason we can't have nice things.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2v8lbvk.jpg

[jeffanddane]

Lmfao cid anyways i don't see why they cant just not include the ps2 in this . . . i mean just like the configurations for ps2 and xbox 360 things are missing as far as graphical enchancments . . . . i dont see why this cant just be implemented and just make the option to have it on pc and xbox . . ..

[Amalah]

i know why dont we all just sit in town and do each others hair and nails too?
/slap
you want to play dress up go by a barbie or play IMVU (www.imvu.com)

Nah, I haven't tried that IMVU thing, but from what I've read and seen it's just not my thing.

But find me a Barbie doll that can command powerful mythical creatures creatures to do their bidding, massacre monsters with big spiky implements or smite her enemies with fiery death while sneaking ninja-like through dangerous dungeons and I'll be interested. :p


http://i55.tinypic.com/2v8lbvk.jpg

^LOL

[PizzaTheHut]

I see this always comes down to ps2 limitations and if so. Ps2, the reason we can't have nice things.

They can do it. Has nothing to do with limitations.

[Amalah]

Then there is hope.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

They can do it. Has nothing to do with limitations.They can't add any new items as long as the PS2 is there.

Sorry Amalah. lol

[Varchesis]

One added benefit would be not having every a-hole player constantly ripping on your gear 'cause it's not what they would wear. I'm thinking of you be-like-me-min-max SAMs out there... oh wait.. that's all of em

C'mon SE make it happen. just delete content like Garrison, Pankration (tho I liked it) and other unused content to make room for costumes code! Garrison deletion alone would probably be enough.

[PizzaTheHut]

They can't add any new items as long as the PS2 is there.

Sorry Amalah. lol

Yes, they can.

[Amalah]

Well on that score I don't know what the truth is. I'm not a huge expert on anything technical and some players are saying one thing and the rest say another. I will just trust that SE knows what the truth is, and that they will know what to do.

If there are not any limitations I hope that they will add some of the wonderful ideas I have seen posted around this forum.

If there are limitations then deep down I hope they will be shed so this game can progress. I've seen that chart floating around which shows only a small percentage still use the PS2. Should this game be allowed to stagnate forever to support a platform most people have left behind? Or should it be allowed to reach it's full potential?

If it is able to grow, if they release fresh new content and improve upon what is there it might have more chance of grabbing new players and shouting "Look at me I'm still here!" I'm not speaking for my idea when I say that of course, after all it's a small idea which wouldn't really have any impact on gameplay. But I am speaking for some of the other ideas that have been posted, some of them are really fabulous.

This game doesn't have to be forgotten by future MMO fans.

[PizzaTheHut]

I've seen that chart floating around which shows only a small percentage still use the PS2.

Nah that's just a fan site poll not an official one. It uses percentage based results meaning only fifty could have answered it and you'd never know.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

They can't add any new items as long as the PS2 is there.

Sorry Amalah. lol

no items need to be added, the second equip screen would use the same items you use now as armor, the only difference is the game would be told to display items in equip menu 2 first and over items in equip menu 1, but then when it comes to anything battle related the game would be told to use all items from equip menu 1

[Komori]

I would definitely love a feature like this. But I don't think it should be restricted to gear you could wear etc. That would take 80% of the fun out of being able to wear a costume.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I would definitely love a feature like this. But I don't think it should be restricted to gear you could wear etc. That would take 80% of the fun out of being able to wear a costume.

well it would not be ;p they could add new gear that has no DEF or stats, and it would be purely visual.

[Jamesruglia]

Hmm... I guess I'd use such a function if there were one, then again, seeing the actual equipment on a person is one of the things I like about the game. The idea of seeing a nice set of armor or something and then realizing they're -really- wearing the dime-a-dozen DD body piece of choice for the era is kind of disappointing for some reason.

Something to keep people from changing appearence and losing my target as Whm would be awesome though.

[Amalah]

Nah that's just a fan site poll not an official one. It uses percentage based results meaning only fifty could have answered it and you'd never know.

Looking at the last part of the poll, which is a multiple choice question around 500 people answered. Which is not a bad cross section of the community.

You're right though, an official poll would definately hold more weight. There has been a fair amount of noise about this issue, so I'm sure SE would find it in their best interest to investigate the matter.

After all it would cost them nothing to hold a poll, and could easily result in the games popularity increasing amongst players who have thought the game too dated. :)

But I guess this is off topic, it's time to go back to discussing ideas we would love to see added to the game.

[Kingofgeeks]

to my knowledge, DAT swapping is not against the Terms of Service. because of that, i swapped out my pink Aurore set on my Tarutaru so that he looks like he's charging into battle as a Legend of Zelda cosplayer :-P

[Varchesis]

KingofGeeks, where can I make that sig?

[Alderin]

Just macro in your run-around set, and hit another macro when you actually attack something.

It means you can still have your movement speed gear etc, and run around in your "pretty" clothes.

I don't wear what I fight in when running around Jeuno or Sandy.

But hey, not flaming your idea.

[Alderin]

If there are limitations then deep down I hope they will be shed so this game can progress. I've seen that chart floating around which shows only a small percentage still use the PS2. Should this game be allowed to stagnate forever to support a platform most people have left behind? Or should it be allowed to reach it's full potential?

If it is able to grow, if they release fresh new content and improve upon what is there it might have more chance of grabbing new players and shouting "Look at me I'm still here!" I'm not speaking for my idea when I say that of course, after all it's a small idea which wouldn't really have any impact on gameplay. But I am speaking for some of the other ideas that have been posted, some of them are really fabulous.


I know your intentions are good, but can we pleasssse avoid the "Drop PS2 support" debate? They have turned into troll threads.

[Amalah]

You're right, I don't want that to happen here. Lets just concentrate on nice things. :D

[Amalah]

I wish there was a bump thread button on these forums.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

the "drop PS2" argument would not even apply here anyway, it is something that could be implemented on PS2 as well, due to the fact that the system would not really use up that much more RAM.

[Amalah]

I certainly hope SE would find the idea simple enough.

[Amalah]

Hope it's okay to keep bumping my thread for others to see. Can't see any rules against it. :S

[Amalah]

I wonder if anybody has any new input now.