The "lost" spells: Any chance of them being added?

[Raiyara]

Gotta ask this question but is there any chance of the devs adding some extra spells to the spell lists that up to now have up to now either been mob only or unused? They exist of course in the files but havent been used.

Full List of Spells for those currently in use by Mobs that players cant use atm

White Magic
Banish IV (WHM) Banishga III (WHM) (Banishga IV/V and Banish V are in the database as well but not used)
Dia (IV) (RDM) Diaga II (WHM/RDM), DIaga III (RDM) (Dia/ga IV and V also exist here as well but arent used)
Paralyga (RDM)
Slowga (RDM)
Silencega (RDM)
(Theres also tier II bar spells in the database but not used)

Black Magic
Poison III (RDM) (IV/V exist too)
Poisonga II(BLM/RDM)/III (RDM)( IV/V also exist)
Blindga (RDM)
Bindga (RDM/BLM)
Graviga (RDM)
Curse (RDM)
Death (RDM or BLM) (this could be added as one of those oh snap spells that 1 shots mobs with same acc as zantetsuken and have a long recast)
Bio IV (RDM) (Bio V exists too)
Elemental tier IV/V -aga spells (BLM) Theyre used by some NMs ingame and its strange that BLM has access to Tier VI nukes with gifts now but not the remaining tier IV and V -aga variants.

Ninjustu (NIN obviously)

Dokumori Ni
Jubaku Ni (Said to be "too powerful" in the past but nothing stopping them just reducing the potency while giving PC's a faster casting spell of this name)
(Theres also San tier spells of the enfeebs too that are unused)

Anyone able to give any info if they can or ever will be added? Some of these spells would be really nice to see ingame with the appropiate balancing implimented and a nice way of seeing these unused spells come into use)

[Roja323]

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[Singforu]

Death (RDM or BLM) (this could be added as one of those oh snap spells that 1 shots mobs with same acc as zantetsuken and have a long recast)
Bio IV (RDM) (Bio V exists too)
Elemental tier IV/V spells (BLM) Theyre used by some NMs ingame and its strange that BLM has access to Tier VI nukes with gifts now but not the remaining tier IV and V spells.


Death has historically been a BLM spell, not RDM. It wouldn't seem right to have it on my RDM. Death is just too "evil" of a spell and would only fit the persona of BLM. But that's just my opinion on that last part.

For those elemental tiers, I think you meant the -ga series. As in Blizzaga IV.

[bungiefanNA]

Death has also historically had a really low hit rate when used by players, but really high when used by enemies. To go against that would break this game, and we sort of already have it with SMN using Odin.

[Alhanelem]

Most of those spells are not "lost" but are only used by monsters.

Banish IV and Banishga III on the other hand, were available to white mage on the test server when it was new, but never made it into the game for whatever reason.

Virtually all AoE (All aoe spells execept diaga) was removed from RDM very early on and RDM was made strictly a single target class. That's why those AoE spells aren't used, but again they are used by monsters.


Elemental tier IV/V spells (BLM) Theyre used by some NMs ingame and its strange that BLM has access to Tier VI nukes with gifts now but not the remaining tier IV and V spells.??? BLM has tier IV and V nuke spells...

As noted, Summoner has access to Death effects, they're just not called that. In all cases they only work against normal enemies. Odin does damage when used against NMs, and Pavor Nocturnus dispels enemies when it fails to inflict Death (whether because it's an NM or it just doesn't work, which is most of the time)

[Zeargi]

I feel like Death would be like Meteor and require Elemental Seal. DRK would also fit with that spell.

[Raiyara]

Bumping in hope someone might respond D:

[Gwydion]

Bumping in hope someone might respond D:

I hope someone from SE responds. I was suprised when Orcs in Dynamis-Sandoria casted Banish IV and Banishga III ...but yet neither WHM nor PLDs have the spell! :(

[Karbuncle]

SMN using Odin.

And ya know, Pavor Nocturnus :D

[Rainehx]

I hope someone from SE responds. I was suprised when Orcs in Dynamis-Sandoria casted Banish IV and Banishga III ...but yet neither WHM nor PLDs have the spell! :(

ikr

also ADL split in 3 the otherday, I was like wtf I want to do that also! my job has Ja's so why not that one? I want it, no I demand it,if he can use it why cant I

ohwait balance,

Turn to page 37 to continue regardless of the effects on the game's balance and send the game spiraling even more in to pointlessness.

Turn to page 62 to change direction and realize if they change everything to suit everyone whats still left that's decent in the game will be gone.

[Raiyara]

I noticed this as well that dynamis whitemages are casting tier iv banish now in addition to banishga iii which they always had. would be nice to see any responce in regards to even these spells atm.

edit: Whm's banish series is something ive never been able to understand in regards to spell level access. they never got banishga 3 even tho mobs got it and even with the level cap raised to 99 they got no new spells in this area even tho blm got tier v and even tier vi single target spells. Would definately like to know if they'll ever add banish 4 or even 5 along with banishga 3 / 4 to PC whms.

[Raiyara]

No love for WHM,s again this patch :(

[Gwydion]

I noticed this as well that dynamis whitemages are casting tier iv banish now in addition to banishga iii which they always had. would be nice to see any responce in regards to even these spells atm.

edit: Whm's banish series is something ive never been able to understand in regards to spell level access. they never got banishga 3 even tho mobs got it and even with the level cap raised to 99 they got no new spells in this area even tho blm got tier v and even tier vi single target spells. Would definately like to know if they'll ever add banish 4 or even 5 along with banishga 3 / 4 to PC whms.

I agree. It's like Divine Magic for WHM has been ignored post-75.

[Riven]

Although no mobs have it in the game I really hope they consider adding Ultima to BLM before November as well.

[BBWallace]

Although no mobs have it in the game I really hope they consider adding Ultima to BLM before November as well.

And I hope they make it AOE like all the other games.

I would also like them to add flare

[Vinedrai]

And I hope they make it AOE like all the other games.

I would also like them to add flare

We already have a spell named "Flare". I see your point though. It was traditionally a non-elemental nuke, not a fire one.

[BBWallace]

We already have a spell named "Flare". I see your point though. It was traditionally a non-elemental nuke, not a fire one.

Lol I forgot all about the fire elemental flare:D. If they do make ultima single target then introduce scathe. Also give rdm AOE status effect spells like blindga silencega etc.

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

Lol I forgot all about the fire elemental flare:D. If they do make ultima single target then introduce scathe. Also give rdm AOE status effect spells like blindga silencega etc.

Think a lot of people would say SCH might handle the Aoe spells better of the jobs since it covers a 3 mage like perspective but there are those who would say subbing SCH on rdm would have the same AoE effect on spells that are normally single target.. I dont know but what do you guys think on those peoples opinions?

[Raiyara]

*pokez in hope of a reply*