View Full Version : Threnody, Requiem, Elegy, and Finale rarely land for me.
Zarchery
03-04-2015, 10:30 AM
Singing, Wind, and String instrument skills are all capped.
It's gotta be my gear. I'm a pretty casual Bard. I guess I need more stuff with Magic Accuracy? I tried to close the gap by equipping Baqil Staff, which gives Magic Accuracy Skill +177. Is there a difference between Magic Accuracy and Magic Accuracy Skill?
So anyway, I'm not a big serious Bard. I have Terpander for 3 songs and Eminent Flute for boosting existing songs. I capped my skills by dumping sparks on skillup tomes. I have no plans to get Daurdabla or Gjallhorn.
Can you guys recommend some decent gear? I don't need to be world's best Bard, but I need my Reqiuems and Elegies to OCCASIONALLY work.
detlef
03-04-2015, 11:16 AM
On what targets?
Zarchery
03-04-2015, 11:44 AM
On what targets?
Anything that is a decent level of challenge at Item Level. Most recently Sybaritic Samantha (Level 119 Unity NM in Yhoator Jungle). I tried to throw some Requiems to tamp down her insane Regen. Also tried some Finale and didn't have much luck.
Earlier, I did a Ceizak Delve run as Bard. It wasn't until we got to the big wamoura thingie (Taxet?) that the leader informed me I had to debuff it. Which I couldn't do because I never geared to debuff things (why would I? I always thought the role of Bard was to sing songs to buff the other players).
dasva
03-04-2015, 01:12 PM
Well most of this stuff is designed around you having the macc from the ilvl slots corresponding to the lvl of the mob
Zarchery
03-04-2015, 01:22 PM
Well most of this stuff is designed around you having the macc from the ilvl slots corresponding to the lvl of the mob
I get that. But there's a billion different pieces of gear out there and I have no clue which to pick.
Protey
03-04-2015, 02:36 PM
I get that. But there's a billion different pieces of gear out there and I have no clue which to pick.
a good ilevel weapon with a decent magic acc skill: Twebuliij, Venabulum, Ngqoqwanb, Staccato, Marin all work
for armor, if you haven't gotten good magic acc augments from the new alluvion skirmish armor you can go with the following which are fairly easy to get:
head: Bihu Roundlet +1
neck: wind torque
earrings: lifestorm and psystorm
body: aoidos' hongreline +2
hands: bihu cuffs +1
rings: if you don't have renaye, sangoma and perception are easy to get
back: rhapsode's cape
waist: ovate rope
legs: bihu cannions +1
feet: artsieq boots magic acc path
and of course, if you don't have a gjallarhorn, make sure you are using the right instrument with the + of that song you are singing.
Zarchery
03-04-2015, 05:04 PM
and of course, if you don't have a gjallarhorn, make sure you are using the right instrument with the + of that song you are singing.
Thanks I'll look into that later. I'm seeing a lot of "Bihu" stuff... which is relic reforged (or maybe artifact, I can't remember). Luckily I have a ton of spare Rem's chapters.
But regarding this last comment... are the + to specific song categories that important? I have Eminent Flute (All Songs +2). Gjallhorn at 99 is just All Songs +4. Is the extra +2 push that important for anything other than, like, Ballad? What does that mean? I know Ballad is +2 MP per tic Refresh, which is pretty huge, but can't figure what it means for other stuff.
Also can anyone clarify the difference between "Matic Accuracy Skill +" and "Magic Accuracy +"?
detlef
03-04-2015, 06:29 PM
Elegy is a set potency so +song will only affect duration. Lullaby duration is also affected by +song. Other songs like Threnody and Requiem have increased potency and duration.
Zarchery
03-04-2015, 11:39 PM
So analyzing this now that I have more time. I write this primarily so I can reference my notes later.
a good ilevel weapon with a decent magic acc skill: Twebuliij, Venabulum, Ngqoqwanb, Staccato, Marin all work
TwebuliijI think I have the key item for (beat NM out in the field a while. Don't have enough plasm but I can probably raise it fairly easily.
Ngqoqwanb is out of my reach (don't have that boss beaten). Venabulum maybe but repeated Ark Angel TT kills are more effort than I want to put into this. Ditto fo Stacatto Staff. Marinlooks kind of sexy and there's a lot of runs for that Cape Terigan bird I could get in on.
Currently I have Baqil Staff (Magic accuracy skill +177) with Magic Accuracy +15 augment. Looks like the 2 frontrunners from the staff list you showed give a pretty good boost (+51) on that Magic Accuracy skill but at a cost of Magic Accuracy -15.
for armor, if you haven't gotten good magic acc augments from the new alluvion skirmish armor you can go with the following which are fairly easy to get:
head: Bihu Roundlet +1
I've got the base piece and the Rem's chapters for this. Just need either the Forgotten Thoughts or ancient currency. Can probably knock most of that out in one Dynamis farming run.
neck: wind torque
I've been trying to get one of these for years, never seen on the auction house. Might just stick with Aoidos' Matinee here.
earrings: lifestorm and psystorm
Already have the key items to buy these, just need to raise the plasm.
body: aoidos' hongreline +2
I think I was using this for a while but switched to Yigit Gomlek for Song Spellcasting time -10%. I still have it with the Porter Moogle so I'll withdraw it later.
hands: bihu cuffs +1
As before, already have the Rem's chapters, just need to drop some gil on the auction house. I know I have some Bihu stuff already but I can't remember what. Might already have this.
rings: if you don't have renaye, sangoma and perception are easy to get
Renaye is out; I already got Woltaris for my WHM and BLM.
Sangoma I can't get because I don't have Ceizak Delve win, but that's largely due to my own reluctance to do Delve. A linkshell member of mine does Delve just about every day, and a couple guys have offered help in getting wins.
Perception is sparks gear, so I'll get that right away.
back: rhapsode's cape
Already have this. I think I can augment this with Refractive Crystals though. Any thoughts on augments?
waist: ovate rope
Never heard of this before, and I can see why. Microcosmic Orb drop? Who does those? But it seems I can just get on auction house or possible wrangle some LS members and try my luck at fight.
legs: bihu cannions +1
See above for Bihu hands.
feet: artsieq boots magic acc path
Another Delve item I can buy if I raise some more plasm.
Okay thanks for the input. Looks like I have a game plan now. Looks like a lot of this stuff I can just throw money at and get fairly easily within a week or two, aside from that Sangoma Ring.
If you can't get a wind torque you could try for a Canto necklace +1 from the unity nm Joyous Green. I think it might actually be better than a wind torque because of all the CHA.
Zarchery
03-06-2015, 09:00 PM
I've implemented most of these suggestions. Couldn't get Sangoma Ring because don't have Delve bee beaten. I'm still sticking with the Aoidos Neck because Wind Torque is basically nonexistent and haven't had time to get together Unity parties for Canto Necklace. I got Twebuilij for staff and Artsieq Boots for feet, and nabbed and Ovate Rope off auction house. Doing all this, plus building Bihu head, hands, and legs blew through most of my gil so it's gonna take a little time to raise the money for Airlixirs to augment them, but at least I've got a game plan.
Protey
03-06-2015, 10:24 PM
you can easily get barcarolle medal off of NM Poroggo Dom Juan in Abyssea La Theine. Just proc blue.
Zarchery
03-06-2015, 11:10 PM
you can easily get barcarolle medal off of NM Poroggo Dom Juan in Abyssea La Theine. Just proc blue.
Some of these NMs have the stupidest names.
detlef
03-07-2015, 04:08 AM
You'll never get a Unity PT for that goobbue, nobody values it. Aoidos is nice in that you get that duration boost. Aside from that, Piper's Torque might be a consideration. Sangoma Ring comes from Hennetiel, and that zone as a whole is probably the easiest of the 6.
FrankReynolds
03-08-2015, 02:51 AM
For what it's worth, I have all that gear and still can't land stuff half the time. :P
detlef
03-08-2015, 03:37 AM
A lot of things are just resisty. It's not like the old days where things either landed 100% of the time or 0%.
Trumpy
03-10-2015, 03:00 PM
Is there a difference between Magic Accuracy and Magic Accuracy Skill?
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the magic accuracy skill on weapons is supposed to simulate the magic skills you would have gained from level 99 to 119 for example. Same with the combat skills on weapons. This is one of the reasons why magic accuracy skill also increases your spell interruption stat.