Give the new Abrasion Bolt to THF.

[sweetidealism]

...Along with a 119 crossbow (ideally with a lot of ranged accuracy, and likely low damage to compensate) with which to use them, please.

While we're at it, new sleep bolts and bloody bolts would be very welcome too.

Crossbows used to be a staple of THF's repertoire. Let's have that be the case again please.

[Babekeke]

Yeah I'd settle for a 1 dmg Xbow if it was 119 with 242 marksmanship. Heck, even stick some ranged att - on it.

[Camate]

Greetings,

Currently we do not have any plans of allowing thief to use Abrasion Bolts, nor do we have any plans to add higher-tier versions of Sleep Bolts and Bloody Bolts.

When it comes to marksmanship, the development team is currently prioritizing adjustments focused on ranger. While there is a possibility that adjustments are also made to thief in the future, instead of ammunition, the addition of an item level 119 ranged weapon will be the priority.

[Sapphire]

While there is a possibility that adjustments are also made to thief in the future, instead of ammunition, the addition of an item level 119 ranged weapon will be the priority.

I will probably be murdered by half this forum, but I'll totally take a 119 boomerang. Just sayin'

[sweetidealism]

I will probably be murdered by half this forum, but I'll totally take a 119 boomerang. Just sayin'

They already added a chakram. It might as well be a boomerang. http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Bestas_Bane


Greetings,

Currently we do not have any plans of allowing thief to use Abrasion Bolts, nor do we have any plans to add higher-tier versions of Sleep Bolts and Bloody Bolts.

When it comes to marksmanship, the development team is currently prioritizing adjustments focused on ranger. While there is a possibility that adjustments are also made to thief in the future, instead of ammunition, the addition of an item level 119 ranged weapon will be the priority.

This is disappointing especially given ranger is already doing very well, but I understand. Thank you for the timely response.

[Malthar]

This is how I feel right now.
"Please sir, I want some more." (http://charlesdickenspage.com/twist_more.html)

[Calatilla]

Greetings,

Currently we do not have any plans of allowing thief to use Abrasion Bolts, nor do we have any plans to add higher-tier versions of Sleep Bolts and Bloody Bolts.

When it comes to marksmanship, the development team is currently prioritizing adjustments focused on ranger. While there is a possibility that adjustments are also made to thief in the future, instead of ammunition, the addition of an item level 119 ranged weapon will be the priority.

What about Cor? Cor uses guns.

[Karbuncle]

Greetings,

Currently we do not have any plans of allowing thief to use Abrasion Bolts, nor do we have any plans to add higher-tier versions of Sleep Bolts and Bloody Bolts.

When it comes to marksmanship, the development team is currently prioritizing adjustments focused on ranger. While there is a possibility that adjustments are also made to thief in the future, instead of ammunition, the addition of an item level 119 ranged weapon will be the priority.

Thank you, its good to know we're getting a 119 Ranged weapon in the future :)

Anyway, not that I'm wildly upset because I rarely use Marksmanship anyway, but Thief has very limited weapon choices, being only dagger and a mild use for Marksmanship. We have access to a total of 2 Merit WS... Dagger and Marksmanship, yet we lack any and all I.lv guns or bullets or anything to put use to our only mildly useful secondary weapon type. I get that RNG is clearly the focus, which is more than understandable, its the ranged job, still, RNGs don't really... use crossbow these days. Thief was really the crossbower back in the day, especially status bolts, so these things are dead on arrival to most if not all RNGs lol.

Anyway, that said, I hope the 119 ranged weapon you give us hearkens back to the fact THF actually used to be able to use guns and bullets... It would be nice to have a means to make use of their only other merit weaponskill :D

Thanks!

[Ang]

At least give thf a 119 cross-bow... boomerangs and the like, are useless as an offensive/surviveability option.

[Ulth]

I'm also hoping that the next i119 ranged weapon for thief is a crossbow. To me status bolts and thief go hand and hand. I always pictured the thief job as more of an underhanded trickster and debuffing mobs' evasion and defense fit into that image. It's why I was thrown for a pretty big loop when I saw thf was not on abrasion bolts. Mostly because I never see rangers with crossbows and since their gear has so much ranged attack up that def down wouldn't help much.

The only way I would prefer throwing weapons over marksmanship in the future is if tp wasn't lost for changing ranged, or just have one boomerang do all the status downs of all the status bolts. However I don't see either of those happening.

Some guns would be cool too, but I will again just stick to crossbows for the added effects. Unless you plan on adding status bullets. Which might be long overdue, and alchemy could use the new recipes.

One last thing to consider is that thieves are a melee class first. So given the choice between a stronger ranged attack or using that slot for melee traits they want, (duel wield, triple attack, crit rate and damage) they might just use the old stuff like raider's boomerang.

[mckenzie]

The issue with bestas bane isn't that that it's a ranged weapon, it's the fact that the status bolts almost always procced, it allowed thf to apply statuses which might not have been otherwise available. Acid bolts were wonderful, blind bolts, sleep bolts, and bloody bolts were capable of keeping a skilled thf alive. If alternatives were available, I'm sure people would use them. Bestas Bane is great and a step in the right direction, however the proc rate on blind is mediocre enough that it's not worth relying on for blind. Drain samba is available to those who /dnc, however frequently ninja is the subjob of choice.

While I realize the paradigm is changing for the game, and for the most part I'm quite pleased with the direction it's going, seeing some of the utility that thf had evaporate disappoints me. It may not be a popular idea either, but having thrown items which could deliver statuses would be wonderful as well. A great example would be smoke bombs which go in the ammo slot and inflict blind upon the target (NIN already have kurayami, but smoke bombs or metsubishi would be right up their alley).

Job abilities which perform some of these statuses would be great as well. As an example, Hamstring could be used from behind, deal no damage and inflict weight upon the target. Qiqirin have a move called strap cutter which removes armor, thfs could use a similar move which simply applies a defense down to the target, similar to angon. Eye gouge could be used to inflict blind.

There are many options for the devs to consider, and given their ongoing quality of life changes, I believe that the devs will eventually work on this issue.

[Ulth]

How about that, new gun, new bullets, and new acid bolts. If anything the Gashing Bolt is better since it won't cost an arm and leg. I don't really get why they made the gun the one with Lightning elemental Magic Atk. Bonus +15. Seems like a polearm would be better, but it's nice to have an option for thf.

[Atomic_Skull]

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[Ulth]

You must have missed how there is a new 119 crossbow from Incursion. The Tsoabichi crossbow (http://www.bg-wiki.com/index.php/Tsoa._Crossbow), but that was in the September update. The Gun is the Donar Gun, pretty safe bet it drops from the new Ramuh battlefield.

[Zeargi]

So, kind of on topic, but not 100%. I was chatting with some friends and noticed that THF gets Last Stand, why don't they get access to more marksmanship WS? I mean, RNG is the boss of all, but SAM can use Archery, somewhat decently. And COR is the Gun Guy, but THF also has access to guns and crossbows, and has the same skill in marksmanship that SAM has in Archery... so...? Yeah!?

[Atomic_Skull]

So, kind of on topic, but not 100%. I was chatting with some friends and noticed that THF gets Last Stand, why don't they get access to more marksmanship WS? I mean, RNG is the boss of all, but SAM can use Archery, somewhat decently. And COR is the Gun Guy, but THF also has access to guns and crossbows, and has the same skill in marksmanship that SAM has in Archery... so...? Yeah!?

Well until the WS overhaul a few months back the only marksmanship WS worth using outside of the Relic and Empyian WS was Slug Shot and Last Stand.

[Eaglestrike]

Greetings,

Currently we do not have any plans of allowing thief to use Abrasion Bolts, nor do we have any plans to add higher-tier versions of Sleep Bolts and Bloody Bolts.

When it comes to marksmanship, the development team is currently prioritizing adjustments focused on ranger. While there is a possibility that adjustments are also made to thief in the future, instead of ammunition, the addition of an item level 119 ranged weapon will be the priority.

Could you thank the development team for their wonderful logic in giving THF a ranged weapon skill via merits, then brand new 119 gun and crossbow options, but our best bullet was available at the 75 cap days and best bolt is ilvl 100?

Is it really too much to ask to be able to occasionally pull out a decent Last Stand, similar to how samurai can use relic bow and Namas Arrow? We wouldn't be as effective as samurai simply because store tp/meditate synergizes wonderfully with whatever anti-melee function is causing us to want to use a ranged ws, but it'd give some versatility, to a job that in most RPG's is known for being extremely versatile.