Post Screenshots of your Warrior

[Cursed]

Post your WAR Armor Sets.

[Saiko]

It always ceases to amaze me how people always post, "Let me see your _________" yet don't even bother sharing theirs.

[Byrth]

It amazes me how people ask for screenshots on a board that doesn't allow embedded images. Also, you can't show your gearsets without using a third party tool, unless I'm missing something.

[Nepharite]

It amazes me how people ask for screenshots on a board that doesn't allow embedded images. Also, you can't show your gearsets without using a third party tool, unless I'm missing something.

Does using a camera to take a pic of your tv/monitor count as a third party tool?
I guess you could also just screeny your char, its pretty easy to tell what someone is wearing. Although you'd never know what the non-visible gear is.

[Gokku]

Tp: 26% haste 28% double attack and something like 551 base attack, also its a 5 hit inside of abyssea with atma of the scorpion queen on instead of GH

input /equip head "Veloce Zuchetto";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";
input /equip body "Rvg. Lorica +2";
input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Vulcan's Ring";
input /equip legs "Rvg. Cuisses +2";
input /equip feet "Rvg. Calligae +2";
input /equip neck "Ravager's Gorget";
input /equip hands "Dusk Gloves";
input /equip waist "Goading Belt";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Ravager's Earring";
input /equip back "Atheling Mantle";

WS *ukko's*:

input /equip body "Twilight Mail";
input /equip feet "Rvg. Calligae +2";
input /equip head "Twilight Helm";
input /equip waist "Breeze Belt";
input /equip hands "Rvg. Mufflers +2";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";
input /equip legs "Rvg. Cuisses +2";
input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Vulcan's Ring";
input /equip neck "Breeze Gorget";
input /equip back "Atheling Mantle";
input /equip ear2 "Flame Pearl";

[Mirage]

I'm a perle white haired mithra war with AH accessories, currently working on some of the AF3 gear. Now you should have a pretty clear mental image of what she looks like.

[Dreimar]

I'm a perle white haired mithra war with AH accessories, currently working on some of the AF3 gear. Now you should have a pretty clear mental image of what she looks like.

I lol'd :D

( i wont tell you what kind of images comes into my mind.)

[wish12oz]

you can't show your gearsets without using a third party tool, unless I'm missing something.

Play in windowed mode, bring FFXI up to the top, check yourself, click on the start bar so its on top, hit print screen, open photoshop or paint or another image editing program, make a new file, hit edit > paste, then save the file. BAM! instant SS of your gear without 3rd party tools.

[Karbuncle]

It amazes me how people ask for screenshots on a board that doesn't allow embedded images. Also, you can't show your gearsets without using a third party tool, unless I'm missing something.

Theres FFXIAH "Gearsets" which are kinda nifty.

Also, SE has openly allows Fraps, Which you can use to make Videos and take Screenshots.


Play in windowed mode, bring FFXI up to the top, check yourself, click on the start bar so its on top, hit print screen, open photoshop or paint or another image editing program, make a new file, hit edit > paste, then save the file. BAM! instant SS of your gear without 3rd party tools.

That too

[Puyopop]

Theres FFXIAH "Gearsets" which are kinda nifty.

Also, SE has openly allows Fraps, Which you can use to make Videos and take Screenshots.



That too
or you could just take them in game then send them to your email from POL o.0;

[Aurara]

Ukkos out of abyssea
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/138470
(add centaurus earring instead of flame)

In abyssea i use af3+2 legs/heafoc mitts/gorget/belt combo

TP on war is fairly standard too
Ukon/claymore/rav. orb
Zelus/Af3 neck/Brutal/Moonshade w/regain
Af3+2/Af3+2/Rajas/Flame(plan on getting blitz)
Atheling/Goading/Af3+2/Af3+2

[JackDaniels]

or you could just take them in game then send them to your email from POL o.0;

LOL

/10char

[Leonlionheart]

lose the moonshade unless it's lowering your xhit (it's not, not by a long shot) and use keen until you get blitz (flame ring is really giving you absolutely nothing inside abyssea except 3 attack on your TP set)

You might want to stress more DEX outside if you're going to take that route, get a attack aug'd +6 dex ring and a +4 dex earring and you'll probably cap dDEX on everything without worry, or else keep the str earring and get twilight mail

[Aurara]

lose the moonshade unless it's lowering your xhit (it's not, not by a long shot) and use keen until you get blitz (flame ring is really giving you absolutely nothing inside abyssea except 3 attack on your TP set)

You might want to stress more DEX outside if you're going to take that route, get a attack aug'd +6 dex ring and a +4 dex earring and you'll probably cap dDEX on everything without worry, or else keep the str earring and get twilight mail

Moonshade with regain augment is the best earring for war TP, lol. Also, flame>keen ring. I could buy blitz, probably will im just lazy.

Also, I'm mithra my gear is just fine outside abyssea. Twilight mail is crap for ukkos, even an adaberk with 4 stp 2DA>twilight mail lol.

[Arcon]

Moonshade with regain augment is the best earring for war TP, lol. Also, flame>keen ring. I could buy blitz, probably will im just lazy.

Also, I'm mithra my gear is just fine outside abyssea. Twilight mail is crap for ukkos, even an adaberk with 4 stp 2DA>twilight mail lol.

Moonshade is only useful if you're close to an x-Hit cap, but not quite there. Otherwise won't get much use out of it. Flame Ring is pretty useful for the TP phase. STR doesn't affect hits nearly as much as many people think, at least not compared to Attack. Race doesn't matter at all. Twilight Mail is ok, there's better, Ares's Cuirass, Grim Cuirass, etc. Adaberk is arguable, but with proper augments, yeah.

[Aurara]

You forgot zahak's

[Arcon]

You forgot zahak's

It's lost somewhere in the "etc.".

[Leonlionheart]

Moonshade with regain augment is the best earring for war TP, lol. Also, flame>keen ring. I could buy blitz, probably will im just lazy.

Also, I'm mithra my gear is just fine outside abyssea. Twilight mail is crap for ukkos, even an adaberk with 4 stp 2DA>twilight mail lol.

I hope you're not serious.

Twilight mail is not crap outside abyssea, depending on your target. If you can cap dDEX with the 5 more dex it has over zahak's, you'll be getting more crit rate than the 3% Zahak's gives. Most of the time though Zahak's will win, although you should be using Grim Cuirass if Berserk is down (unless you know you are already capped on attack, which you probably won't be).

If you are serious about Moonshade with regain, flame > keen then none of this will get through to you because you are stubborn or mentally challenged.

[Rearden]

Tp: 26% haste 28% double attack and something like 551 base attack, also its a 5 hit inside of abyssea with atma of the scorpion queen on instead of GH

input /equip head "Veloce Zuchetto";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";
input /equip body "Rvg. Lorica +2";
input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Vulcan's Ring";
input /equip legs "Rvg. Cuisses +2";
input /equip feet "Rvg. Calligae +2";
input /equip neck "Ravager's Gorget";
input /equip hands "Dusk Gloves";
input /equip waist "Goading Belt";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Ravager's Earring";
input /equip back "Atheling Mantle";

WS *ukko's*:

input /equip body "Twilight Mail";
input /equip feet "Rvg. Calligae +2";
input /equip head "Twilight Helm";
input /equip waist "Breeze Belt";
input /equip hands "Rvg. Mufflers +2";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";
input /equip legs "Rvg. Cuisses +2";
input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Vulcan's Ring";
input /equip neck "Breeze Gorget";
input /equip back "Atheling Mantle";
input /equip ear2 "Flame Pearl";

So much wrong with this, lol.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Only thing really questionable is second ring on TP set, head/hands can be excused to not having Zelus, for WS yea Twilight Mail isn't that good in Abyssea, only good outside if it's giving dDEX over Zahak's/fighting something where accuracy is uncapped, can excuse head if emp+2 isn't complete, earring may or may not be questionable. Could be a lot worse really.

EDIT: although I'm guessing it's also because he doesn't have zerk down/up set?

[Rearden]

I think the part where he said he was actually using GH before subbing to Scorpion Queen said it all, but I digress...

First and foremost you don't have a 5 hit because you don't WS in a 5 hit, which is the major reason why WAR's go for a 6 hit in order to up their WSDMG and damage/hit. (This is somewhat of an argument between more than a few people which is irrelevant to what I am saying because this person does not have a 5 hit)

Waist/Neck are debateable inside/outside, since he's talking about inside elemental gorgets/belts increase fTP by 0.1 and gorgets increase accuracy, 2.0fTP mod for STR etcetc.

Blitz ring and Bullwhip belt allow you to TP with 4/5 set like a Zelus would and since you only have a 6hit build this would be the preferred option. You do need to add 1xSTP for your WS build when doing so to maintain your 6hit outside Abyssea or without crap Atma's, but you used GH so meh.

Could be a lot worse but most of what's wrong is easy to obtain/Auction House/sillyness.



Zerk Up/Down set

Zahak's/Byakko's/Thundersoul/Pixie w/everything else posted is +61DEX, which should be in the 140range and capped dDEX for anything outside Abyssea. Some things potentially not, but there are gear swaps I'd make before taking off Zahak's.

Edit: Grim for good measure


5hit+5hit WS Gear+Food + Correct Atma's

WS Dmg: 3236
Set DPS: 612.533
Full DPS: 697.066

6hit

WS Dmg: 4339
Set DPS: 757.226
Full DPS: 793.253

[Leonlionheart]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/198866 - TP Everywhere. Only real upgrades I can see are Adaman/Armada Hauberk with 4+ STP and 2 DA, or possibly Shadow/Valkyrie Cuirass with +2~3 TA and a Rose Strap. However that crap is incredibly rare, even more so now with the HORRIBLE drop rate on HQHNM pop items, and no one doing Einherjar.
input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip feet "Rvg. Calligae +2";
input /equip legs "Rvg. Cuisses +2";
input /equip hands "Rvg. Mufflers +2";
input /equip ear2 "Ravager's Earring";
input /equip body "Rvg. Lorica +2";
input /equip neck "Ravager's Gorget";
input /equip sub "Claymore Grip";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";
input /equip ring2 "Blitz Ring";
input /equip main "Ukonvasara";
input /equip head "Zelus Tiara";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";
input /equip waist "Goading Belt";
input /equip back "Atheling Mantle";

~~~

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/201745 - Berserk Up WS inside Abyssea. Only real changes to be made would be legs, where perfect trophy pants (+2% WS damage, +3% Crit Rate) would be better. Ring of course is meh, but usable on three jobs, so +2 inventory.
input /equip sub "Claymore Grip";
input /equip waist "Thunder Belt";
input /equip neck "Thunder Gorget";
input /equip feet "Rvg. Calligae +2";
input /equip back "Cavaros Mantle";
input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip main "Ukonvasara";
input /equip legs "Rvg. Cuisses +2";
input /equip ring2 "Spiral Ring";
input /equip hands "Heafoc Mitts";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip body "Zahak's Mail";
input /equip ear2 "Ravager's Earring";
input /equip head "Ravager's Mask +2";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";

~~~

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/211166 - Berserk Down, again only upgrades are HQ Grim, Trophy legs, and Ring.
input /equip feet "Rvg. Calligae +2";
input /equip legs "Rvg. Cuisses +2";
input /equip waist "Thunder Belt";
input /equip back "Atheling Mantle";
input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Spiral Ring";
input /equip hands "Heafoc Mitts";
input /equip body "Grim Cuirass";
input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Ravager's Earring";
input /equip neck "Thunder Gorget";
input /equip ammo "Ravager's Orb";
input /equip sub "Claymore Grip";
input /equip main "Ukonvasara";
input /equip head "Ravager's Mask +2";

I don't have outside sets because let's face it, there's nothing out there. (Besides KS99 and Einherjar until my brain melts out).

[Rearden]

For the record, Bier outparses all others zerk up/down, and elemental outparses zerk down, ravagers zerk up. Solid otherwise

[Leonlionheart]

For the record, Bier outparses all others zerk up/down, and elemental outparses zerk down, ravagers zerk up. Solid otherwise

I neva knew, I'll probably test those out. Not too much time to play at the moment though.

[Rearden]

I didn't either, but I played around with it while looking for a friend. Found some interesting things out about Blade: Hi as well

[Neisan_Quetz]

Now with the latent discovered Rancor Collar is also a choice if you get your hands on one.

[Rearden]

Rancor adds about 160 to the WSDMG for the numbers I posted above, zerk up/down

[Aurara]

I hope you're not serious.

Twilight mail is not crap outside abyssea, depending on your target. If you can cap dDEX with the 5 more dex it has over zahak's, you'll be getting more crit rate than the 3% Zahak's gives. Most of the time though Zahak's will win, although you should be using Grim Cuirass if Berserk is down (unless you know you are already capped on attack, which you probably won't be).

If you are serious about Moonshade with regain, flame > keen then none of this will get through to you because you are stubborn or mentally challenged.

Ok obviously you have 0 understanding of how war works, or Ukko's Fury for that matter. I confirmed what you said, and if you're fighting something like a voidwatch NM on war twilight body will win. However you are wrong about moonshade with regain and flame>keen ring. Blitz would be better, but i'm lazy and haven't bought it yet. Stop being ignorant bliz/rajas is best combo.

Ukon/Claymore/Ravager's orb
Zelus/Rancor/Brutal/Moonshade
Armadaberk with 6 STP/3DA/Af3+2/Rajas/Blitz
Atheling/N.sash/Af3+2/Af3+2
Best TP set for war, It's what i'm striving for. Stop with the name calling, because it's obvious you don't know everything you're talking about.

Edit:saving face i was wrong about flame>keen(or pyrosoul>keen for that matter) but i am right that blitz>all for TP.

[Leonlionheart]

Ok obviously you have 0 understanding of how war works, or Ukko's Fury for that matter. I confirmed what you said, and if you're fighting something like a voidwatch NM on war twilight body will win. However you are wrong about moonshade with regain and flame>keen ring. Blitz would be better, but i'm lazy and haven't bought it yet. Stop being ignorant bliz/rajas is best combo.

Ukon/Claymore/Ravager's orb
Zelus/Rancor/Brutal/Moonshade
Armadaberk with 6 STP/3DA/Af3+2/Rajas/Blitz
Atheling/N.sash/Af3+2/Af3+2
Best TP set for war, It's what i'm striving for. Stop with the name calling, because it's obvious you don't know everything you're talking about.

Edit:saving face i was wrong about flame>keen(or pyrosoul>keen for that matter) but i am right that blitz>all for TP.

It's funny how you think I'm ignorant, but you still defend Moonshade Earring on a 6hit WAR. Check my sets above, I actually use Blitz. I was giving cheap upgrades from what you were using, not saying that Keen (or anything other than possibly Oneiros Ring if you have MP merits over 10, though that wouldn't be better at capped magic haste, but better under the effect of both hasso and Haste Samba) is ever better than .39% haste.

Still, Moonshade is QUITE bad unless it takes you from 7->6hit or 6->5hit. It's a good macro in piece if you have to back away from the mob, that's for sure. Worth having with regain if you main DD jobs, however for actual TP it's only useful if it changes your xhit.

That set you have posted is NOT best TP set for war.
1: You're 1% over haste (27%)
2: 3DA on Armada Hauberk is either so rare you might get one per server, or not possible.
3: Lose N.Sash, get Goading Belt. Then there's no need to use Moonshade, as you will be comfortable in a 6hit. You lose 3~7 Attack (depending on your Moonshade Earring) from losing Ninurta's, however you gain 1% Double Attack (Ravager's Earring).
4: Moonshade Earring is too unreliable, because you have a small chance that you won't get full TP feedback from Ukko's, and if you are hyped up on Marches+Haste+Haste Samba+Hasso, then you will occasionally only get 1~2 ticks from regain. The loss of an extra hit between 6~7 hits is actually pretty large, and you might as well lower your accuracy like 10%.
5: Rancor Collar on TP is a toss up, because you lose 2% Double Attack leading to, albeit a small amount of, less WS's. The DPS may or may not be higher.

Otherwise it's a fine set. I would go for Adaman Hauberk with 4+STP and 2DA MINIMUM, or else not use it at all, but that piece is still out of the picture for me personally.

~~~

On another note, and without double posting, what do you guys think of this set:

Ukon90/Rose/Orb
Zelus/Ravager's(or Rancor, depending on parses)/Ravager's Earring(Possibly Centaurus earring)/Brutal
Valk. Breastplate(with 3% TA)/AF3+2/Oneiros/Rajas
Atheling/Goading/AF3+2/AF3+2

Note: Requires 10 MP merits.

This set is still a 6 hit, however you lose(From the normal armada hauberk set) .39% Haste, 2~4% DA, 3%(Or gain 2% if you put on Rancor Collar instead of Ravager's Gorget considering TA will lower DA rate) Critical Rate, 13~15 DEX, 2 Accuracy for the gain of 5% TA, 10 Attack, 2 Regen. It's a lot to lose for 5% TA, but in perfect buff situations (Hasso+Haste Samba+Marches+Haste) I think it will out perform the common setup. Obviously it's a lot harder to obtain, since Haedan ABJ are much more expensive/harder to come by, and apparently 3% TA is very rare.

If I had access to it I'd try it out.

[Aurara]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/217122
This is the set i'm aiming for, i was a bit wrong cause i wasn't going from memory. But this is hands down the best TP set for war. Moonshade earring is the best earring for this slot. Arguing it isn't is just plain silly. And as to your set, it probably won't out do the set i posted. I'm not here to call names, or destroy credibility. I'm saying what i know best, and i know this because my friend(this is what they use) math'd it out and this set is the best TP for war.

[Leonlionheart]

How is it best? I can point you to math that proves otherwise.

[Aurara]

Kam told me that was the best setup for war TP, please provide math. I'm terribly sorry that I cannot(no sarcasm here honest lol). And to clarify, you use the moonshade to get the 6 hit. Explain to me why what i posted isn't the best for war and why with math to back it up, and i'll do my best to get math to support it when kam gets on.

[Leonlionheart]

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0A0wGYYRRdaZjdlNTdkNTEtMDMyYy00OTVmLWI4N2ItNDMwMDI1N2VkYWZk&sort=name&layout=list&num=50&pli=1

Here's the DPS calculator for you to see.

I found it here, (thread comes with much testing): http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19774/ukkos-fury-setup/6/

[Neisan_Quetz]

Most of the 5 hit data assumed Carbonara I believe, I did it assuming Carbo as well and 6 hit was winning by a small margin; according to Mojo the better food would be Arrabiatos(sp?). Haven't done the testing assuming it for inside/outside.

[Leonlionheart]

Food:

Arrabbiata: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/5211/arrabbiata (+22.5% Attack, Cap 120) Stack Price: 300k

Carbonara: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/5190/carbonara (+18% Attack, Cap 65) Stack Price: 60k

Red Curry Bun: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/5759/red-curry-bun (+23% Attack, Cap 150) Stack Price: 58k

5hit is losing 30 Attack just from food. Not to mention 3% Crit Rate (Grip), 4 STR 8 Attack (Ammo) 35 Attack 3% DA(Cape) .39% Haste 4 DEX 4 STR (Ring) That's quite a big loss in just gear, but add in the food and you're dying.

[Leonlionheart]

The difference between Aurara's "Goal" set and my "Goal" Set

Ear2 (Moonshade(Assume 4 Attack+Regain) Vs. Rvg. Earring)
Ring2 (Keen(or Flame/Pyrosoul/Strigoi) Vs. Blitz)
Belt (Ninurta Vs. Goading)

Set "Aurara" (Assuming Keen Ring since accessible): +18 Attack, +1Regain
Set "Leon": +1% DA, 3 Attack, 5 STP
...

Why Set "Leon" is better:
-Reliability of Regain as compared to straight 6hit from STP: Capped Haste attack rounds are 1.6 seconds. That means you get 1 TP per 2 Swings. It takes 9.6 seconds for all 6 swings. Ukko's Furry takes away 1 swing, but due to ability delay we can safely say its not an issue. The problem we have then is that TA, DA, and most importantly Retaliation reduces the amount of time between Ukko's Fury and 100% TP. With 1 TA 1 DA you are cut down to two attack rounds per 100% TP, meaning you would be at 99% TP instead of 100% TP with Regain. This is fixable by waiting, but odds are (unless you miss) you will get another hit in before you get another tick of Regain. With a base of 15% TA inside abyssea and 30% DA, you have high chances of losing an entire attack round to waiting on regain rather than just having enough STP.

-1% DA is actually more TP for you, and more chances of Set Proc ODD.

The only way set "Aurara" performs better is without buffs, in which case it is indeed slightly better (by 15 attack really). That's it. 15 Attack. Instead of going through the PAIN of getting Ninurta+Moonshade you could get 5 more attack with THE SAME AMOUNT OF HASTE by:

Set "More Attack Than Thou": Ear2(Centaurus Earring), Ring2(Keen Ring), Waist(Goading Belt) Hands(Perle Moufles)
Attack +28 (The true Attack Difference of Set "Aurura" is actually 5 because AF3+2 hands give 6 attack (From the 9 STR).

Conclusion: You should be using set "More Attack Than Thou" when restraint is down anyway, though Rvg. Earring would be better than Centaurus earring in terms of actual DPS.

[Aurara]

You mean a set like this? cause Kam put together this one too(this is the one that's more realistic for me)
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/218925

[Leonlionheart]

You mean a set like this? cause Kam put together this one too(this is the one that's more realistic for me)
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/218925

That's the one. That's what I'm going for too actually, just missing the Adaman Hauberk.

In all honesty apparently Askar Body is better than +2, but I don't even have that. If I did I don't know if I'd use it though.

Difference between Askar and Adaman: 5 STR 10 DEX 3 Attack 15 Accuracy, which in honesty is almost nothing in terms of TP rounds, since it keeps your xhit while giving the same amount of DA as a good aug'd Hauberk.

[Aurara]

Well, IF i get N.sash AND Mars' ring ill use that set, but really the difference between the two is very miniscule and probably not even worth arguing about. But the second one is the one i'm also trying to get, no armadaberk though. Need to augment my nq and get 4/2 :(

[Shirkan]

That's the one. That's what I'm going for too actually, just missing the Adaman Hauberk.

In all honesty apparently Askar Body is better than +2, but I don't even have that. If I did I don't know if I'd use it though.

Difference between Askar and Adaman: 5 STR 10 DEX 3 Attack 15 Accuracy, which in honesty is almost nothing in terms of TP rounds, since it keeps your xhit while giving the same amount of DA as a good aug'd Hauberk.

In that link we have Zelus Tiara,Goading belt,Ravager's legs and feet +2 with a blitz ring.I have access to all of that gear,no big woo.
I know before all of the above gear was created we had the haste test and an actual haste % was proven for Homam,Speed belt Dusk +1 etc.
My question is: Do we know for sure that Zelus,Goading,Rvg legs+2 and feet +2 do not cap haste alone,as they may all be worth exactly or a little bit more haste % than whats incribed on them.

Edit : Also you can achieve DA+3 on Adaberk :o

[Byrth]

You need an Armadaberk for DA+3

[Rearden]

From what I messed, with Wivre(+2crit)/Rancor seems to mathematically beat everything else. There may have been a few variables it was not or it was marginal but usually it was by far (more than 1%) a clear winner.

[Leonlionheart]

My question is: Do we know for sure that Zelus,Goading,Rvg legs+2 and feet +2 do not cap haste alone,as they may all be worth exactly or a little bit more haste % than whats incribed on them.

I think it goes something along the lines of 1 shown haste = 1000/1024?
So then: 8% haste would be 8000/8192?

I'm not certain, but I'm fairly sure the number 1024 is involved. Some research on BG would probably solve your problems.

Edit: According to ffxicalc Zelus Tiara is 7.91% Haste, Goading and +2 Feet are 4.88%, +2 Legs are 6.93%, and Blitz is 1.07%.

[Rearden]

10/1024 would be a better assumption for 1% haste, which makes 1% haste = 0.0097 or .97% haste

Blitz is 11/1024, or 1.07% haste

[Leonlionheart]

Well there you have it

[Shirkan]

Cool guys thanks

[Shirkan]

So are we replacing Rajas with Oneiros Ring any time soon,ya think peep?
It's ugly sure but I'd get MP merits if it improved my DMG output.If you had capped haste/6 hit without Rajas Ring - DA+2/3 STP 4/5 on Ebody and White Tathlum:confused:

Edit: Hey with Earthen hands Aug'd with haste you could drop blitz for Oneiros and keep yer rajas o_0:eek:

[Leonlionheart]

So are we replacing Rajas with Oneiros Ring any time soon,ya think peep?
It's ugly sure but I'd get MP merits if it improved my DMG output.If you had capped haste/6 hit without Rajas Ring - DA+2/3 STP 4/5 on Ebody and White Tathlum:confused:

Edit: Hey with Earthen hands Aug'd with haste you could drop blitz for Oneiros and keep yer rajas o_0:eek:

TA+2 will probably be better than Haste+.39% up until you have marches (With marches I think Haste+.39% will be better)

Dropping AF3+2 hands is easy, hell you can get perle and drop blitz and have 17 more attack than you did before- but you lose out on the bonus to restraint.

If Restraint is not active, you should be using perle hands and keen ring/ well auged +6 DEX ring or strigoi or something.

[Shirkan]

Thanks Leo.You should have your own help thread !:rolleyes:

[Neisan_Quetz]

If me gusta helm actually existed, that+dusk+1 gloves+keen ring should be more attack/skill than just switching perle hands.

[Leonlionheart]

Thanks Leo.You should have your own help thread !:rolleyes:

NP.


If me gusta helm actually existed, that+dusk+1 gloves+keen ring should be more attack/skill than just switching perle hands.

Fazheluo Helm +1: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11824/fazheluo-helm-1
I think that's what you're talking about, and yes if it was actually a viable option that would be ideal. 99% of the game will probably never even see that thing on anyone though.

[wish12oz]

The difference between Aurara's "Goal" set and my "Goal" Set

Ear2 (Moonshade(Assume 4 Attack+Regain) Vs. Rvg. Earring)
Ring2 (Keen(or Flame/Pyrosoul/Strigoi) Vs. Blitz)
Belt (Ninurta Vs. Goading)

Set "Aurara" (Assuming Keen Ring since accessible): +18 Attack, +1Regain
Set "Leon": +1% DA, 3 Attack, 5 STP
...

Why Set "Leon" is better:
-Reliability of Regain as compared to straight 6hit from STP: Capped Haste attack rounds are 1.6 seconds. That means you get 1 TP per 2 Swings. It takes 9.6 seconds for all 6 swings. Ukko's Furry takes away 1 swing, but due to ability delay we can safely say its not an issue. The problem we have then is that TA, DA, and most importantly Retaliation reduces the amount of time between Ukko's Fury and 100% TP. With 1 TA 1 DA you are cut down to two attack rounds per 100% TP, meaning you would be at 99% TP instead of 100% TP with Regain. This is fixable by waiting, but odds are (unless you miss) you will get another hit in before you get another tick of Regain. With a base of 15% TA inside abyssea and 30% DA, you have high chances of losing an entire attack round to waiting on regain rather than just having enough STP.

-1% DA is actually more TP for you, and more chances of Set Proc ODD.

The only way set "Aurara" performs better is without buffs, in which case it is indeed slightly better (by 15 attack really). That's it. 15 Attack. Instead of going through the PAIN of getting Ninurta+Moonshade you could get 5 more attack with THE SAME AMOUNT OF HASTE by:

Set "More Attack Than Thou": Ear2(Centaurus Earring), Ring2(Keen Ring), Waist(Goading Belt) Hands(Perle Moufles)
Attack +28 (The true Attack Difference of Set "Aurura" is actually 5 because AF3+2 hands give 6 attack (From the 9 STR).

Conclusion: You should be using set "More Attack Than Thou" when restraint is down anyway, though Rvg. Earring would be better than Centaurus earring in terms of actual DPS.

Necrobump/oldarguement

Those are my gear sets. I am Kam, Hi( '-')/
And you are wrong.
The differance between the 2 is ninurtas/mars/moonshade vs goading/blitz/ravagers
With STP6 on armadaberk with 3DA you would be at 99 tp after 6 hits, meaning moonshade needs to give only 1 tick of regain to maintain 6 hit. 3 seconds between ticks means this will always happen, even if you triple attack > double attack after a WS it would still take over 3 seconds to get the 3rd attack round in even with capped haste. So the regain vs stp is a moot point and not at all important.
The real difference is; 18 att 8 acc vs 3att 1 DA. And with as much DA (and TA inside abyssea) WAR has, 1% DA is not even going to give you +1% total damage, 18 attack always will, unless you manage to always have extra bards/cors, stalwarts, mages diaing everything, etc everywhere you go. But seriously, who always has capped attack? Not anyone I know.

Also: this is a restraint up set. (Or, a set you would use when you need more acc as opposed to what a restraint down set offers)

Lastly: Switch to rancor collar if you can survive with the +10% damage taken.

EDIT: And someone with cavaros mantle, heafoc mitts, ravagers earring and spiral ring listed on their gear sets as stuff they use for Ukko's shouldn't try and tell others what is best.

[Leonlionheart]

All of those arguments were posted before most augments were known, other than Adaberk.

Obviously with Crit damage heca +1 hands, it would be better.

STR+4 earring is better, yes.

I'm not big on gil, that's why I don't have anything better than Spiral. And lazy. And don't play anymore.

Obviously now that Rancor Collar is known, it's better.

Congratulations on having a Mars ring, N sash, and Armada hauberk, I don't have them so I can't test.

Attack on my set from body/ring/belt/earring = 30 (including skill from AF3+2 body)
Attack on your set from body/ring/belt/earring = 34
Your set has 2% more DA and 4 more attack, at the cost of 2% less Set Proc rate(set proc isn't really a big deal). The difference in gil is, nearly 40mil. Not to mention however many millions spent on tatters.

Your set will more than likely win, assuming you do indeed have that 6 STP and 3% DA.

With 4~5 STP and 2% DA my argument against it stands though so you need perfect augs and NEED an HQ(not easy to get).

Shoot for your set, but my set is definitely the next best option.

If you want to hear me say it, then yes: I agree with you. You're set is completely optimal as far as I can tell. (I still don't think I'll recommend AV items to people though)

[Leonlionheart]

EDIT: And someone with cavaros mantle, heafoc mitts, ravagers earring and spiral ring listed on their gear sets as stuff they use for Ukko's shouldn't try and tell others what is best.

F*** you to this though. I can give perfect information on gear to PUPs DD sets without having the job unlocked. Seriously, you're completely ignorant if you're telling me I shouldn't be giving people advice, when you're telling people to go get Ninurta's Sash, Mar's Ring, Armada Hauberk, and Moonshade Earring or gtfo.

Yes they are better. Will I tell people to go spend most of their time getting them? No. Yes they are easier to get than at 75, but dead content is dead.

[Rearden]

You guys don't even have perfect augment N.Legs+1 with 6DEX!

[Leonlionheart]

Seriously though, most of this stuff is so rare is impractical D:

Yes it's the best but personally I have no way of getting it, since I didn't enjoy doing sky/HNM/Einherjar back at 75 cap, and nearly no one does it now.

I'll probably go to pick up B haidate, N. hands, and I'll do KSNM if I can get the people for E body but I don't have the resources anymore.

[wish12oz]

Seriously though, most of this stuff is so rare is impractical D:

When people ask "What is the best stuff to use." It's best to tell them, rather than impose your gimp ideas of whats practical onto them since you have no idea of what situation they are in. If you want to include second best options, thats fine too, but to intentionally tell people gimp info is sort of stupid. And if you can't even afford the 500k to upgrade to a 7str ring, you should just throw your Ukon away, its better off on the ground. Armadaberk is like 10mil now, and provided you have 4-5 friends who are not terrible, it's very easy to get the abjuration doing Einherjar. I'm sorry you were never good enough to do this content at 75, and don't have any friends to do it with now that it's very very very easy, and I'm also sorry you are unable to make any gil and are poor as dirt, and also that you feel it's ok to work towards the second best gear, but seriously, thats not how everyone else plays. Most people would rather know what the best stuff is and work towards that, then work towards second place.

[wish12oz]

Attack on my set from body/ring/belt/earring = 30 (including skill from AF3+2 body)
Attack on your set from body/ring/belt/earring = 34

Wait what?
AF3+2 body is 20 attack, 7 skill, which is 26 attack total.
0 att goading 3 att ravagers earring 0 att blitz
your set = 29 attack.

Aramadeberk is 11STR 16 ATT, which is 24.25 attack total.
8 att on mars, 6 att on ninurtas, 4att on moonshade.
my set = 42.25 attack.

Oh ya, this too. lol. Is this what we're talking about?


EDIT:::::::
1 skill = 1acc and 1 att until you reach 200 skill
1 skill = .9 acc and .9 att after you break 200 skill

[Leonlionheart]

Wait what?
AF3+2 body is 20 attack, 7 skill, which is 26 attack total.
0 att goading 3 att ravagers earring 0 att blitz
your set = 29 attack.

Aramadeberk is 11STR 16 ATT, which is 24.25 attack total.
8 att on mars, 6 att on ninurtas, 4att on moonshade.
my set = 42.25 attack.

Oh ya, this too. lol. Is this what we're talking about?


EDIT:::::::
1 skill = 1acc and 1 att until you reach 200 skill
1 skill = .9 acc and .9 att after you break 200 skill

Yeah I was wrong, forgot about STR. However, it's not .9 att, it's just 1 attack. Don't ask me why it's separated from accuracy, which is indeed .9.

So it's 30 attack 2% DA ODD vs 42 attack and 2% DA.

Asura Ninurta's Sashes are 20mil, Mar's ring is 8mil, Cursed Hauberk -1 is 15mil. Tatters are 150k+
20+8+15=43. A friend of mine spent 16 tatters to get STP+4 DA+2. 2,400,000g

45.4mil for 12 attack and 2 DA...

Pass. My WHM wants Roundels more than that, and I still need to work on a lot of other things first.

However if you can get your hands on Ninurta's, Mars, and HQ E body, it's better. Use it.

[Babekeke]

Yeah I was wrong, forgot about STR. However, it's not .9 att, it's just 1 attack. Don't ask me why it's separated from accuracy, which is indeed .9.

It's 0.9 att. you may see a full 7 att when adding the gear though, due to your current skill level. You get 6.3 att from this body, so if you're sat at a skill level (before adding body) that leaves you with .7, .8 or .9 you will see a jump of 7 attack.

So you're both right. :)

[Leonlionheart]

I come bearing gifts of new TP set information: why if you don't already have Adaman/Armada Hauberk you shouldn't waste your life trying to get it, and instead waste your life trying to get Voidwatch gears:

Fazheluo Set: 43 Attack, 6 Accuracy, 5% DA(Will win by a long shot if you don't need accuracy, which you often won't, needs moonshade)
vs.
AF3+2&Zelus: 27 Attack, 27 Accuracy, 1~2% DA ODD(Will always win when Accuracy is not capped)
vs.
Armada&Zelus: 23 Attack, 23 Accuracy, 3% DA(Will win if you don't need the 4 Accuracy on AF3+2)
vs
Valkyrie&Zelus: 33 Attack, 4 Accuracy, 3% TA(In cases where accuracy is less important, needs moonshade)

This is assuming you are using
X/Rvg. Gorget/Rvg. Earring/Brutal
X/AF3+2/Rajas/Blitz
Atheling/Goading/AF3+2/AF3+2

Note on Fazheluo Set: You need Radiant Mail + HQ Head to make it work, and it also requires a Moonshade Earring w/ Attack and Regain. So the actual difference is another 1 attack and 1 less DA, still beating out by a large amount the other sets.

[wish12oz]

Why are you in this thread talking about how amazing of an increase 10 attack is and in another thread saying 182 attack is 'minimal'?

BTW, Aramadaberk w/ DA3 beats AF3+2 body all the time for everything ever.

Valk breastplate is +6 acc, -4 dex, which comes out to +3 accuracy, and the +accuracy augment is not something you should really consider, I mean if you're going to argue augmenting this til you get acc and TA, why not argue augmenting armadaberk til you get stp, da and acc or att? Heck why not argue augmenting Valk til you get 8 att and 3 TA? Then it would always be better then faz! If you don't need STP on body/hat with faz why would you suddenly have to have a COR with valk?

Random pic of my armadaberk with 8 acc before you say it can't happen:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c243/r5n/accarma.jpg

Faz is best if you don't need acc, armada if you do, and af3+2 is what you use while trying to acquire one of the others, nothing more. This isn't exactly new information though, and best of luck to anyone trying to acquire Valk Breastplate, I can't find it or the pants -1 for sale, stupid Odin server.

[Leonlionheart]

Why are you in this thread talking about how amazing of an increase 10 attack is and in another thread saying 182 attack is 'minimal'?

BTW, Aramadaberk w/ DA3 beats AF3+2 body all the time for everything ever.

Valk breastplate is +6 acc, -4 dex, which comes out to +3 accuracy, and the +accuracy augment is not something you should really consider, I mean if you're going to argue augmenting this til you get acc and TA, why not argue augmenting armadaberk til you get stp, da and acc or att? Heck why not argue augmenting Valk til you get 8 att and 3 TA? Then it would always be better then faz! If you don't need STP on body/hat with faz why would you suddenly have to have a COR with valk?

Random pic of my armadaberk with 8 acc before you say it can't happen:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c243/r5n/accarma.jpg

Faz is best if you don't need acc, armada if you do, and af3+2 is what you use while trying to acquire one of the others, nothing more. This isn't exactly new information though, and best of luck to anyone trying to acquire Valk Breastplate, I can't find it or the pants -1 for sale, stupid Odin server.


I'm not trying to say it's minimal, I'm saying that the benefits of the 5 hit is less hits to get to 100% TP, meaning your TP rounds are less important, thus where the thinking that the loss of attack is ok comes from. Either way 6 hit wins by a long shot in terms of DPS. (P.S. You don't need food to get a 5 hit, though I believe you do need an Almah Torque and Regain Moonshade earring)

Though, I still think that 4 Accuracy on AF3+2 could beat out Armada w/ DA+3%, since AF3+2 in conjunction with hands/legs/feet gives around 1.2% DA ODD (I've been told, though haven't tested, that the ODD and Set Procs are don't proc when you DA, but rather are a complete new stat that is additive to DA), and that 4 accuracy COULD win if your accuracy isn't capped, on a theoretical level 105 mob you're losing out on 1.2% accuracy. 2.4% increase in hits per 100, and half of that is double damage, so it depends on your target, especially in Voidwatch. Not to mention that if your accuracy isn't capped that 3% DA won't be truly 3 hits per 100.

As for Valkyrie Breastplate with perfect augs, use it if you can make up the STP. If not, don't use it. It's pretty simple and I assume players have half a brain when gearing their jobs if they are able to obtain any of the Armada/Valkyrie/Radiant Mail options. It looks like I wasn't thinking when I added Vlakyrie, as you don't necessarily neeeeeed a COR to make it 6hit, just a moonshade like the Radiant Mail option. I'll edit it.

OBVIOUSLY if you can get an aug with Accuracy+8 on your Armada body then it wins over AF3+2. It's part of the random pool though, so I believe you're just as likely to get DEX+5, STR+5, or HP+25, so take your pick. It's your time, so distribute it how you want.