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Ophannus
06-13-2014, 01:07 PM
Erpalacion: DRG trust. Uses Jump and High Jump, Polearm Weapon Skills and Angon. Maybe make Jumps a bit stronger or crit since he can't use Call Wyvern.
Unlocked from being Rank 10 San d'oria.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060810001655/ffxi/images/f/f8/Erpalacion.jpg

Raogrimm: WAR trust. Uses Provoke, Warrior's Charge, Berserk, Great Axe weapon skills. Maybe put him in Fighter's Lorica set since he's the original holder of Warrior AF armor.
Unlocked from beating Dynamis Lord.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081126034046/ffxi/images/thumb/a/ae/Raogrimm.jpg/500px-Raogrimm.jpg

Portia: DNC trust. Dual Wields daggers. Uses Steps, Haste Samba, Cure Waltz and Healing Waltz.
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/2/a/2a1b7b0c4e005847f7022cc8055aa006.png


Rainemard: RDM NPC. Uses Composure. Casts Haste and Refresh II on self and player. Uses Enspell II and Temper on self. Auto-attacks with sword and uses sword weapon skills. Occasionally casts Dia III, Paralyze II, Gravity II on target and cures players when below 50% HP.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/f/ff/Rainemard.jpg


Raubahn: BLU trust. Uses Blue Magic, Chain Affinity and self skillchains, can Diffusion+Animating Wail. Versatile spell list(no pointless or weak spells like Wild Oats though...)
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061228180141/ffxi/images/b/ba/Raubahn.png

Raka
06-17-2014, 10:39 AM
Love the ideas, I was hoping Rainemard would make it into the Alter Ego team!

I personally wouldn't mind having Kayeel-Payeel or Gariri.^^

Also I already assume General Rughadjeen is making his way soon-ish maybe? I wonder if Square Enix will consider allowing a full party of Alter Egos? Would be great having the Five Serpent Generals fighting at my side afterall! Wonder what kind of neat co-op benefits they would have too when all 5 are summoned together?! Sure hope we get some information on this.^^

Olor
06-18-2014, 02:43 AM
I personally want to see more NPCs from the past. I would love to see most of the freelancers. Like, how about Achtelle and Bravo? That would be SO COOL. Or Auroral Alicorn, or Babban Ny Mheillea and her crew of friends? Choh Moui with Azo and Vahi would be 185% awesome. Poroggo Prince (without being able to cast death which would be overpowered I guess, lol) would also tickle my fancy.

Really though, if I could only choose one set of NPCs it would be my all time FAVOURITE Beastmaster, Rongo-Nango, and his cast of pets Jajaro, Popochu, Papako, Momowa, and Lerren. Would be awesome to be able to pick which two pets to call with him :D

Draylo
06-18-2014, 03:27 AM
Raubahn plz

Olor
06-18-2014, 03:43 AM
Also I think my favourite bastokian army leader Elivira should become a trust. She is so cool with her shotgun.

Close second Adelheid should also be added

:D

AND Mikhe Aryohcha because she is pretty darn cool looking.

Olor
06-18-2014, 07:16 AM
OMG looks like we're getting Elivira! SWEET!

Cipher Of Elivira's Alter Ego: http://bg-wiki.com/bg/Cipher:_Elivira

AND Lhu Mhakaracca!!! But... she needs her pets! Kyo and Pya! Come on SE, can't have a BST without pets!

Sapphire
06-18-2014, 07:21 AM
Close second Adelheid should also be added



Adelheid is the devil and if she is added I will summon her only to get her killed. Repeatedly.

In progressively more violent ways.

Camate
06-19-2014, 04:35 AM
Greetings,

Thanks for the suggestions!

One thing I’d like to point out about the Trust Initiative is that player and the NPC are supposed to have a strong connection, and due to this we do not plan on adding alter egos for characters that you haven’t actually come into contact with or characters that just exist in Vana’diel’s history.

We’ll be prioritizing the addition of alter egos that players have been involved with throughout the storylines and are nostalgic for players.

There may be a possibility that we add each of the NPCs suggested that players have come into contact with in the future, but the only one that might be difficult is Raogrimm as this may be a spoiler for the main storyline.

Maledict
06-19-2014, 05:15 AM
There may be a possibility that we add each of the NPCs suggested that players have come into contact with in the future, but the only one that might be difficult is Raogrimm as this may be a spoiler for the main storyline.

Oh! That's easy enough. Just force a clear for Dynamis - Xarcabard as a requirement for trading in the Cipher. Have the Trust NPC say "The process didn't work...This Cipher seems to be incomplete" or something if you try to trade it in before the requirement is met.

Ciphers with requirements could be used for other spoiler-y characters, too, later on down the line.

Raydeus
06-19-2014, 05:30 AM
Yeah, a Dynamis Xarcabard clear would be a good requirement for Rao (and Cornelia maybe?)

And as a RDM I really want to see Rainemard as a Trust.

Olor
06-19-2014, 05:55 AM
Greetings,

Thanks for the suggestions!

One thing I’d like to point out about the Trust Initiative is that player and the NPC are supposed to have a strong connection, and due to this we do not plan on adding alter egos for characters that you haven’t actually come into contact with or characters that just exist in Vana’diel’s history.


I hope that doesn't mean we can't get freelancers - after all, we've spent time working with them to save the past, and the future!

Pug
06-19-2014, 06:16 AM
I can see how you want to have the bond of the player and NPC being there, but who is to say that the Moblins haven't got ahold of this new magic.... and twisted its power to their own uses.

The Hero/Vanquished Foe bond can be equally strong, and those feelings of fear can lead to a new level of mutual-respect and perhaps friendship... dropping Meteor on someone does appear to bring you closer together.. ^.^


Funded by the Moblin Millionaire and Billionaires of Aht Urghan, using the secret technologies of ancient empires

Trust-Rivals!

Think of the NPCs that could be called to your aid!

Zilart Brothers, Beastmen Kings... who knows what a Trust-Rival spell might entail to obtain to achieve the right to call a former enemy to your side!


And to the topic creator:


Spoilers for those that don't know Aht Urghan or Blue Mage story.

Blue Mage Trust - While the obvious Job Giver is a good go to, I would rather it be a non-descript Immortal Soldier. One with a chance that might be a summoned as an 'Unstable' version that leads to a Flan or Flayer after a period of time or amount of damage dealt.

Ophannus
06-19-2014, 06:44 AM
One thing I’d like to point out about the Trust Initiative is that player and the NPC are supposed to have a strong connection, and due to this we do not plan on adding alter egos for characters that you haven’t actually come into contact with or characters that just exist in Vana’diel’s history.

All of the ones I listed, players come in contact with!

Erpalacion:Prominent in San'Doria missions and DRG AF quests.

Raogrimm: Prominent in missions for multiple expansions as well as Dynamis and WAR AF quests.
Portia: Prominent in DNC AF quests and Wings of the Goddess missions.
Rainemard: Prominent in Campaign and in RDM AF quests.
Raubahn: Prominent in BLU AF quests and Treasure of Aht Urghan storyline!

I'd also argue that the upcoming trusts Ferrous Coffin and Elivira aren't any more prominent to the player that the AF/Story NPCs I mentioned above

Glamdring
06-19-2014, 08:23 AM
Lillisette. and before people say she's busy being a villainous goddess in an alternate universe, she's a time-traveler, we could get her from anywhere in the timeline.

Puck
06-19-2014, 08:25 AM
There may be a possibility that we add each of the NPCs suggested that players have come into contact with in the future, but the only one that might be difficult is Raogrimm as this may be a spoiler for the main storyline.The hell? That didn't stop them from adding Nashmeira and calling her Nashmeira instead of "Aphmau." That's a pretty big spoiler, ya know. It also doesn't make sense since our characters befriended her as "Aphmau" and knew her by that name for most of the storyline, so I imagine we'd still call her that name if we got the chance to hang out with her when she's not doing her empress duties.

Seriously, Raogrimm=Shadow Lord is too big a spoiler to make him an alter ego? BS. You find that out REALLY quickly in the main story missions, nobody would have anything ruined for them, and you don't even get to know the guy so there's no surprise when the reveal happens. Aphmau=Nashmeira is a much bigger spoiler and the devs did it anyway with her Trust NPC.

Mnejing
06-19-2014, 09:02 AM
Lillisette. and before people say she's busy being a villainous goddess in an alternate universe, she's a time-traveler, we could get her from anywhere in the timeline.

I think they're saving her trust for when they put in Atomos's quests.

Though I want Babban Ny Mheillea and her friends gobbue, cactuar, malboro, and treant.

Cabalabob
06-19-2014, 10:56 AM
Greetings,

Thanks for the suggestions!

One thing I’d like to point out about the Trust Initiative is that player and the NPC are supposed to have a strong connection, and due to this we do not plan on adding alter egos for characters that you haven’t actually come into contact with or characters that just exist in Vana’diel’s history.

We’ll be prioritizing the addition of alter egos that players have been involved with throughout the storylines and are nostalgic for players.

There may be a possibility that we add each of the NPCs suggested that players have come into contact with in the future, but the only one that might be difficult is Raogrimm as this may be a spoiler for the main storyline.

NPC's I've met and have a strong bond with?... Who the hell is domina shantotto? I've never met this person! >_>

Ataraxia
06-19-2014, 01:40 PM
Greetings,

Thanks for the suggestions!

One thing I’d like to point out about the Trust Initiative is that player and the NPC are supposed to have a strong connection, and due to this we do not plan on adding alter egos for characters that you haven’t actually come into contact with or characters that just exist in Vana’diel’s history.

We’ll be prioritizing the addition of alter egos that players have been involved with throughout the storylines and are nostalgic for players.

There may be a possibility that we add each of the NPCs suggested that players have come into contact with in the future, but the only one that might be difficult is Raogrimm as this may be a spoiler for the main storyline.

hello Camate if you are reading this please make adjustment to moogle and sakura. The regen or refresh aura is weak and it's very limited. The aura from regen and refresh need to be bigger so that whm in PT will have that aura effect. As of now mage job are far away from melee PT to receive any aura effect from moogle or sakura trust Initiative.

MDenham
06-19-2014, 01:51 PM
Oh! That's easy enough. Just force a clear for Dynamis - Xarcabard as a requirement for trading in the Cipher.It doesn't even have to be a cipher. Just have it be a cutscene triggered at the Trail Markings in Xarcabard upon getting a clear, at the end of which you learn the Trust spell. (Similar things are already in place for several of the ToAU story-related Trusts.)

Tohihroyu
06-19-2014, 05:09 PM
Yes! Raogrimm please! and yes to Rainemard too as we have no red mage trusts yet, if not him then maybe a Quadav red mage for another beastmen trust.

And yay to Elvira! a rng trust that wont AoE (I hope)

And whats this? *the* Galka white mage? I really hope he'll have his weakness removal JA

Lithera
06-19-2014, 10:00 PM
NPC's I've met and have a strong bond with?... Who the hell is domina shantotto? I've never met this person! >_>

You didn't do or have Shantotto's ad on do you?

I think Lilliset would have a one time only meet up with us in WoE for a CS where we get her trust. Cyphering her would just cheapen everything we went through with her and for her. No other npc did we do so much for just so they could exist.

Teraniku
06-19-2014, 11:27 PM
NPC's I've met and have a strong bond with?... Who the hell is domina shantotto? I've never met this person! >_>

Domina Shantotto is part of the "A Shantotto Ascension" mission story line.

Jedd
06-20-2014, 12:08 AM
You didn't do or have Shantotto's ad on do you?

I think Lilliset would have a one time only meet up with us in WoE for a CS where we get her trust. Cyphering her would just cheapen everything we went through with her and for her. No other npc did we do so much for just so they could exist.

Seriously. I'd be rather annoyed if my favorite FFXI character got relegated to a mere Cipher. I can't imagine them doing that, though, especially since Lilisette was one of the top three in that character poll a while back. She was even alluded to in the recent Cait Sith avatar quest.

While on the subject of Ciphers, I have to ask: is there some reason we can't just use them like a regular spell scroll? Just don't see why we have to go to an NPC and button mash through all that needless text. Not a big inconvenience or anything, just seems odd to not go with the simpler, pre-existing option.

Demonjustin
06-20-2014, 08:30 AM
Ciphers in general feel cheap. I've never liked the system and would rather all NPCs be obtainable via CSs with the NPCs themselves. Getting NPCs like Lion from login campaigns is just... bleh.

Teraniku
06-21-2014, 01:14 AM
I'd like to see either Perih Vashai or Semih LeFinah for Trust. As far as Perih is concerned, you could explain that Trust brings out your best memories of a person, so that in Perih's case she'd be in her WotG outfit and not be Blind. As another example Lillisette would be in her DNC AF and have her DNC abilities because that's what your fondest memories of her are.

Lithera
06-21-2014, 02:49 AM
Perih kicks butt though as a blind cat lady. She fired that bow twice with amazing accuracy the 2nd time.

Raydeus
06-21-2014, 02:58 AM
Perih kicks butt though as a blind cat lady. She fired that bow twice with amazing accuracy the 2nd time.

If we got her she would probably be the younger version from WotG, before she got blinded by [spoilers censored]

Lithera
06-21-2014, 06:51 AM
But CS gotten trusts go by everything you did with them. So she would still be blind if you already got to that point.

Kjara
06-21-2014, 08:22 AM
Please T-T A Qultada trust...!

Zaelle
06-25-2014, 12:38 AM
I'm still waiting on Lilisette. I've been hoping for her since I found out what trust was. I could think of many more too, but she's pretty top tier.

Sapphire
06-25-2014, 01:20 AM
I'm still waiting on Lilisette. I've been hoping for her since I found out what trust was. I could think of many more too, but she's pretty top tier.

They confirmed back when Trust was introduced that we'd be getting ALL the heroines. So she's a given. :P

bungiefanNA
06-29-2014, 09:10 PM
I'm still hoping that including Mumor and her friend Uka as well, even though that's just an event heroine.

Malithar
06-29-2014, 09:28 PM
I'm still hoping that including Mumor and her friend Uka as well, even though that's just an event heroine.

I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't update that event and reward at least her as a trust. IIRC, they even updated it last time it rolled around, the story was the villians were dancers/actors from Adoulin. Be pretty cool to get a main job Dnc trust that keeps Haste Samba up. Add in bot-like stuns that Zeid and Fab have, status cures via Healing Waltz, -50% HP cures via Curing Waltz, and we'd be in business.