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Edyth
04-28-2014, 12:50 AM
One-click Mog Gardening {{Can I have it?}} Checking multiple Mog Gardens every day for over a year is getting fatiguing. Can the "Do it"/"Do nothing" prompt be taken away forever? I promise, I NEVER click my Pond Dredger just for the hell of it when I feel like doing nothing, and neither does anyone else.

Let us harvest with a simple click; no confirmation menu. Please.

Mitruya
04-28-2014, 01:57 AM
To add to this, I would like to be able to harvest the vein and grove ONE time, not have to click it 10 times.
Also, I don't understand the "inspect garden" option; if you click "harvest" it will tell you whether the row is ready or not. So many times I have wasted effort by accidentally clicking "inspect" instead of "harvest" when I was in a hurry.
I love the Mog Garden, I really do. But like others have said, it could use some streamlining.

Dragoy
04-28-2014, 05:48 AM
Very much agreed on everything.

So much so, that I've been meaning to post about this myself! Especially the little cutscene playing every time upon examining the furrow feels quite redundant.

I wonder if it would be possible to make the mining and logging at least a little similar to the fishy stuff. That is, compute all the items at once, instead of via single clicks?

While at it, I'd like it if they stopped changing my title every now and then (seems like after participating in any of these activities a number of times, they sneak up a title upon me; it's annoying, and should stop at least until I can switch my title to anything I want in the garden).


Thanks!

RalphTheGalka
04-28-2014, 12:30 PM
To add to this, I would like to be able to harvest the vein and grove ONE time, not have to click it 10 times.
Also, I don't understand the "inspect garden" option; if you click "harvest" it will tell you whether the row is ready or not. So many times I have wasted effort by accidentally clicking "inspect" instead of "harvest" when I was in a hurry.
I love the Mog Garden, I really do. But like others have said, it could use some streamlining.

I think I understand their reasoning behind having to inspect it so many times, because of the way the fertilizers and such work. I'd still like to see the overall process simplified with all of the confirmations removed. Let us ask the moogle about fertilizers if they feel we really need to know without actually mining/harvesting a spot.

And get rid of the RARE tag on Faded Crystals like they did with Meteorites.

Malithar
04-28-2014, 10:34 PM
I think I understand their reasoning behind having to inspect it so many times, because of the way the fertilizers and such work. I'd still like to see the overall process simplified with all of the confirmations removed. Let us ask the moogle about fertilizers if they feel we really need to know without actually mining/harvesting a spot.

And get rid of the RARE tag on Faded Crystals like they did with Meteorites.

I don't believe that's the main reason the vein and grove are the way they are, though it certainly could be one. The main reason is from a single action, a mob dropping items, fishing up the nets in the gardens, etc, only a total of 10 items can be given. If you use bait and an assistant, you'll see that you hit the 10 cap with em. Same deal with a Delve MB kill (only mobs that come to mind that drop max slots, though I'm sure there's other cases I'm forgetting).

As annoying as it is to click the veins and grove multiple times, I'd rather it stay the way it is to get more items, unless they vastly increased the quality of the items given by the one click nodes.

Stompa
04-29-2014, 05:02 AM
Its funny that some things get the security-click "Really?" / "Yes/No" system but other things don't.
For example new medals in campaign; "Accept the honours?" / "Yes." / "Really accept the honours?" / "Yes." Double security-clicks! I was recently getting medals for my mule (slow day at work) and this double security-click made me /grin. Like what is the worst that could happen if they didn't have security-clicks, you would get a new shiny higher rank medal that you didn't actually want for some strange reason.
BUT when you are half asleep and your friend drags you along to Dynamis-Qufim; "Sub jobs restricted?" / click by accident - whoosh off you go into Dyna on War/no sub, without a single security-click.
And in Mog Garden, "Harvest the crop?" / click / "Are you sure?" etc. like what is the worst that could happen if they just let you one click harvest without a security click? You get some felicifruit or something. Its not the same as being pwned in Dyna because you hit "no sub job" and didn't get any security clicks lol.
I agree with other posters in that I love mog gardening too, and that it could have some of the clicks removed without losing the mellow tropical atmosphere. The waypoint has the "decline destination confirmation" option toggle and this makes for one-click warping without security-clicks. This is the future!

Demonjustin
04-29-2014, 05:38 AM
BUT when you are half asleep and your friend drags you along to Dynamis-Qufim; "Sub jobs restricted?" / click by accident - whoosh off you go into Dyna on War/no sub, without a single security-click.
Its not the same as being pwned in Dyna because you hit "no sub job" and didn't get any security clicks lol.If you actually have this problem they do let you put back on your sub at the entrance I believe. I don't think you can do it more than once or after a certain amount of time though I've never tried, but I have made the mistake and I know it lets you fix it inside thankfully. Just wanted to throw that out there incase anyone actually has that issue from time to time. :x

Trumpy
04-30-2014, 05:27 AM
Yes you can get your sub back by clickign the thing at the start but you cannot go back to sub job less. What irks me about security checks is they almost always default on "no" and each menu the no is the top or bottom choice so you cant jsut hit up or down as reflex to get the yes or no, each menu is different (although by now we are used to some).

"Would you like to see a Menu?" -- Click
Cursor defaults on "no" for security check -- "So you dont want to see the Menu?" -- Click "Yes"

Would you like to see the Breakfast or Dinner Menu? -- Click "Breakfast"
Cursor defaults on "no" for security check -- "So you dont want to see the Breakfast Menu?" -- Click "Yes" in frustration, knowing you have 3 more menus to click thru.

And so on and so on, It gets even more frustrating if you tend to have lag or a sticky cursor that doesnt go up when you hit up sometimes so you inadvertantly hit "no" and have to start all over again.

Mnejing
09-20-2014, 09:36 AM
I'm guessing Camate/Grek isn't going to post an official translation of Fujito's post about Grove/Vein continuous collection feature..

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/31315-%E3%83%A2%E3%82%B0%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AE%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1%E3%81%AF%E3%81%93%E3%81%A1%E3%82%89%EF%BC%81?p=525769#post525769

Edyth
09-21-2014, 06:24 AM
I'm guessing Camate/Grek isn't going to post an official translation of Fujito's post about Grove/Vein continuous collection feature..

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/31315-%E3%83%A2%E3%82%B0%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AE%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1%E3%81%AF%E3%81%93%E3%81%A1%E3%82%89%EF%BC%81?p=525769#post525769

Google translate seems to indicate an option to allow you to fully reap a gathering point until it's empty or until your bag is full with a single selection. If so, like x100000000000000000000000000000. Now, please make the menu default to that option.

Bebekeke
09-21-2014, 06:25 AM
I'm guessing Camate/Grek isn't going to post an official translation of Fujito's post about Grove/Vein continuous collection feature..

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/31315-%E3%83%A2%E3%82%B0%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AE%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1%E3%81%AF%E3%81%93%E3%81%A1%E3%82%89%EF%BC%81?p=525769#post525769

It seems that they're implementing an option to harvest/mine continuously until either:

There is nothing left to harvest;
You have no more room in your inventory;
The harvesting/mining point moves.

Which gets my vote :)