[dev1199] Mog Wardrobe Question

[Trumpy]

I just wanted to make sure:

Will we be able to equip gear from both wardrobe as well as our gobbie bags? Will only equipment be allowed in Wardrobe? Or is it basically another bag that we can equip from?

[Puck]

Pretty sure they already said you'd be able to equip from either your bag or wardrobe at liberty. Nothing about the gobbie bag is changing, they're just adding yet another inventory bag, but unlike sack/satchel/case this one only holds equipment and we can actually equip stuff from it.

[Trumpy]

Well to be fair I dont see where it says it will hold only equipment. It is a really good guess on our part tho, but that is one of the reasons i made this thread. If somewhere it does say only equip please show me where, I would appreciate it.

[Alhanelem]

I just wanted to make sure:

Will we be able to equip gear from both wardrobe as well as our gobbie bags? Will only equipment be allowed in Wardrobe? Or is it basically another bag that we can equip from?
My understanding is you can equip gear from your main bag and from the wardrobe. The Wardrobe only holds equipment.

given its intended purpose I am not expecting to be able to store other things in it- And even if you could, why would you? You probably have enough equipment pieces to fill more than one bag, so it makes more sense to empty gear out of your other bags into the wardrobe.

[Angrykitty]

I was kinda hoping this was a system that you could store your equipment to whatever job you were on. So when you change a job your stuff would already be equipped, like how you can store and manage attachments for your automation... Damn. :(

[Lyandra]

Well to be fair I dont see where it says it will hold only equipment. It is a really good guess on our part tho, but that is one of the reasons i made this thread. If somewhere it does say only equip please show me where, I would appreciate it.

On the "Freshly Picked Vana'diel #6" entry, post #12 (May Version Update Preview Part 2):


Equipment-specific storage
After the May version update we will be adding a specialized inventory bag that is meant specifically for the storage of equipment allowing you direct use of the equipment placed inside.

It's pretty much only going to allow armor or weapons to be stored in it, probably anything that can be equipped to an Equipment square (Even ammo? That would be neat.) It reminds me a lot of XIV's Armoury System, with its equipment-only restriction and swapping on the fly. Granted, its not as convenient as another 80-slot bag, but just think how much space your Gobbiebag or other slots will free up now! I'm looking forward to freeing up 78 slots in my current Mog Locker, personally. ;)

[SMD111]

for me this is a good start
Mog Wardrobe for equipment like magian staves, elemental obi, etc.
(if you put all of your elestaves,eleobi,wsbelts,wsgorgets,wsheadgear thats 64 items)

what else we need is
something for usable items like ninja tools, food, cards, etc. so we do not need to keep these in our gobbie bags
something just for crystals, clusters, geods, ites, etc.

[Trumpy]

Well i think being able to store armor in a whole nother bag will allow plenty of room for the other usable items you spoke of SMD111. Even in 14 there was a section for usable items and one for key items, and then the armory for equipment. I guess it will depend on how its laid out i guess.

Ok thank you Lyandra for pointing that out. So many people these days jsut come up with stuff out of the blue whether its a educated guess or complete bull crap and state it like its a fact. And its very easy to miss a post here and there or even forget something one has read themselves (Ive read that very post you mentioned).

Since the time they very first brought this up i was imagining something more like 14s system, so when i saw it is jsut another bag it threw me for a loop. It will also be odd for me putting things in the wardrobe and seeing some items greyed out because they aren't equipment. Now imagine this. you know how our gobbie bag is always on the right and whatever other storage is on the left. what about wardrobe? will it be on the left when moving things between it and the bag and on the right when moving things between safe/satchel/locker? Will we be able to move things between the bag and the wardrobe at all? It said it "will be added to the "View House" subsection of the main menu." So that makes me think it will be on the left. For a brief moment i imagined something like the equipment/automaton menu for pup where we choose wardrobe or bag. Either way im very excited bout this feature. I been shying away from makin anything with an augment i cant send to a mule or store on a slip lately due to room constraints so if this really helps i will be happy to finally aug some things (delve armors/skirmish weapons).

[lllen]

After reading the original announcement again it seems that the new Wardrobe will be like our gobbie bag you use to equip gear to the appropriate slots. I am wondering if the wardrobe only holds stuff we use in equipment slots, then the regular gobbie bag will collect all the drops, pi's etc. We will be running around with 160 slots. Now if my theory is correct, this is one happy mnk, pld, thf, bst, whm etc.

Now my next question will we be able to still equip from the gobbie bag also?

[Puck]

So many people these days jsut come up with stuff out of the blue whether its a educated guess or complete bull crap and state it like its a fact.It's called "having a functional memory." I didn't "come up with stuff out of the blue," I remembered what the devs already said and told you that directly, as did Alhanalem. You sound like an ass when people tell you what they know and you're basically like "yeah whatever, prove it."


Now imagine this. you know how our gobbie bag is always on the right and whatever other storage is on the left. what about wardrobe? will it be on the left when moving things between it and the bag and on the right when moving things between safe/satchel/locker? Will we be able to move things between the bag and the wardrobe at all? It said it "will be added to the "View House" subsection of the main menu." So that makes me think it will be on the left. For a brief moment i imagined something like the equipment/automaton menu for pup where we choose wardrobe or bag.That's what it'll be. Here. This post settles that:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=9523&d=1397549279

Can't wait for Wardrobe.
Look on that tab on the right. The second option says "mogu waadorobu," or "Mog wardrobe." Fujito is Yoji Fujito, the dev that's been working on updates to the inventory system.


Now my next question will we be able to still equip from the gobbie bag also?The devs have said NOTHING about there being any changes to how a gobbie bag functions, so it stands to reason that you'll still be able to equip items from there like usual. If not, every single player will log into a naked character after the update.

[Trumpy]

I am in no way being an "ass," I politely asked for links to where info was said, for the reasons i gave, that posts can easily be missed or forgotten. And then i thanked them. I dont think i even entirely responded to Alhanalem's post nor did i deny anything he said.

And then i explained the situation which was because more and more people are pullin things out of their asses or completely assuming things (I didnt mean you were, just that i am weary of people who do). Yea they may have said things a long time ago but that doesnt mean it comes to be. if so Id like my Geo-regain spell please. Know how many people have told me Empy armor reforges are coming out in June? (Like a ton) Know how many posts by Devs i have read that actually say empy armor reforges are coming in June? (Secret: its 0) In fact some of the recent posts by devs have sounded much like they were gonna take a break in adding reforges in fear of they are moving too fast and people would have too much equipment or something to that effect.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39346-Future-Plans-for-Equipment?p=486611&viewfull=1#post486611
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/40523-Save-old-weapons-that-don-t-have-skill-on-them%28Kraken-Club-Ridill-Thief-s-Knife%29?p=497478&viewfull=1#post497478
The second link mentions Artifact and Relic but doesnt say empy armor ( though it does say and other special gear). So there is a off topic example of people coming up with stuff out of their asses.

And i only bolded only because i wanted people to focus on that, not some random part of the rest of the sentence, which often happens and people completely miss the point of the question. This is the internet where people will focus on wording of some adjective at the end of the sentence that has nothing really to do with the target of the question. And you get no where. I wasnt denying what you said, just the only part.

And Thank you for the pic there showing the option of wardrobe and gobbie bag, that is very helpful (see how i am still being polite and not callin people names). That really settles alot of questions I had about wardrobe. Its kind of hard to watch a video in a complete different language I dont understand for about an hour, especially when the majority of it is 2 dudes sitting there and catch these lil nuggets of info. Which im guessing that pic came from.

By the way has anyone translated the menus they showed off new job points in the video, i am kinda surprised i havent heard anything bout what they might be anywhere.

[Raydeus]

I have a question for Camate and the devs. =)

Would it be possible to also add the mog case to the list of bags you can equip gear from?

I would really like it if I could just put my equipment in those two bags (wardrobe&case) instead and use my main gobbie bag and the sack/satchel to manage item drops. That would make things so much more convenient for me.

Edit > Or, alternatively would it be possible to add an option that would allow us to select in which bag to deposit all item drops? Say I want to have my default drops bag to my satchel, would that be possible to implement?

[Alhanelem]

I have a question for Camate and the devs. =)

Would it be possible to also add the mog case to the list of bags you can equip gear from?

I would really like it if I could just put my equipment in those two bags (wardrobe&case) instead and use my main gobbie bag and the sack/satchel to manage item drops. That would make things so much more convenient for me.

Edit > Or, alternatively would it be possible to add an option that would allow us to select in which bag to deposit all item drops? Say I want to have my default drops bag to my satchel, would that be possible to implement?
This special bag is JUST for equipment. Most likely it has special properties, and thus it won't be possible to just make <insert other bag here> equippable. But given your post, I don't really see the difference between using your Case, and using the Wardrobe for the same purpose, other than one is specifically for gear and one isn't. Just use your Wardrobe to free up space in your Case and use it for something else.

Being able to have drops automatically go to different bags, though, I agree would be very nice.

[Raydeus]

But given your post, I don't really see the difference between using your Case, and using the Wardrobe for the same purpose, other than one is specifically for gear and one isn't. Just use your Wardrobe to free up space in your Case and use it for something else.

I ask for that because I want to have 2 dedicated bags I can equip items from (for 160 spaces total for equipment) without having drops messing up the way I organize things.

[Lithera]

Then don't put drops into your case?

[Raydeus]

Then don't put drops into your case?

That's the plan if they allow us to equip items from the Mog Case too. d(^^d)

[Raydeus]

To clarify this is the way it works now:

Inventory - All items / Equipable : O / Default drop location
Mog Satchel - All items / Equipable : X
Mog Sack - All items /Equipable : X
Mog Case - All items /Equipable : X

---
After the Wardrobe is added :

Inventory - All items / Equipable : O / Drop default location
Mog Satchel - All items / Equipable : X
Mog Sack - All items /Equipable : X
Mog Case - All items /Equipable : X
Mog Wardrobe - Only equipment / Equipable : O

----

What I would like :

Inventory - All items / Equipable : O / Drop default location
Mog Satchel - All items / Equipable : X
Mog Sack - All items / Equipable : X
Mog Case - All items / Equipable : O
Mog Wardrobe - Only Equipment / Equipable : O

----

Edit >
And the other alternative :

Inventory - All items / Equipable : O / --
Mog Satchel - All items / Equipable : X / --
Mog Sack - All items / Equipable : X / --
Mog Case - All items / Equipable : X / --
Mog Wardrobe - Only Equipment / Equipable : O

-- : Possible Default drop location selected in the Config.

[Lithera]

That's the plan if they allow us to equip items from the Mog Case too. d(^^d)

Can't you already do that with macros though? I know I read something about that recently, but I'm not a heavy macro user so it didn't stick inside my brain.

[Demonjustin]

Can't you already do that with macros though? I know I read something about that recently, but I'm not a heavy macro user so it didn't stick inside my brain.Nope. That's why wardrobe is special.

[Alhanelem]

That's the plan if they allow us to equip items from the Mog Case too. d(^^d)They're not going to do that. The wardrobe is a special space. They probably can't just make any bag act that way. In particular, each one supported adds UI elements needed, and any kind of UI change seems to delay features a lot (its often a reason given for why something is still in development).

Just be happy they're giving us another equippable space, and make the most of it.

[predatory]

They're not going to do that. The wardrobe is a special space. They probably can't just make any bag act that way. In particular, each one supported adds UI elements needed, and any kind of UI change seems to delay features a lot (its often a reason given for why something is still in development).

Just be happy they're giving us another equippable space, and make the most of it.

I like this reply. Once upon a time all you had was gobbiebag, mog safe and storage, and the upgrades to gobbie bag weren't cheap like now

[Raydeus]

Just be happy they're giving us another equippable space, and make the most of it.

I can understand you have doubts this could be implemented, and so do I. Which is why I'm asking to Camate and the devs if it would be actually possible.

However this "just be glad you got something" attitude you have is kind of...

[Alhanelem]

I can understand you have doubts this could be implemented, and so do I. Which is why I'm asking to Camate and the devs if it would be actually possible.

However this "just be glad you got something" attitude you have is kind of...
I'm sorry, I'm just realistic. I'm sure if they could easily make every bag equippable, they would. Obviously there's a reason why they created a special space for it instead of changing the existing ones. Wasn't trying to be a D-word, but I have a bad habit of being super blunt.

[Vivivivi]

Here is how I see myself using the wardrobe:
Placing non-storable gear that can be used by multiple jobs in it.

It will be extremely convenient when changing jobs to simply grab one or two storage slips, go to the moogle, grab my job specific gear, and not have to worry about having things like my hermes sandals, berserker's torque, elemental belts, etc in my inventory.

I'm also very much looking forward to (hopefully) using the mog safe and locker literally as storage- a place to put things I don't intend on using for a while (like trial items, rare crafting mats, etc).

Cautiously optimistic that this system will alleviate a lot of storage woes (still waiting on those 99 stacks :))

[SMD111]

Here is how I see myself using the wardrobe:
Placing non-storable gear that can be used by multiple jobs in it.

It will be extremely convenient when changing jobs to simply grab one or two storage slips, go to the moogle, grab my job specific gear, and not have to worry about having things like my hermes sandals, berserker's torque, elemental belts, etc in my inventory.

thats what i plan for it as well

[Trumpy]

I am not about to go thru the forums in search for it but i believe they have already answered the specific thing of "Make gear in non gobbie bag areas equip-able" maybe a couple times. The answer was no because it would be more time then they have man power or soemthing like that (or not possible at all). course there is alot fo things they said wasnt ever possible that have come out in the last year so who knows. But like Ahnahalem said wardrobe was made specifically for this, so we should all be glad.

Allowign drops to go to other places would be really cool but i think the 80 slot wardrobe will give u lots of room in ur gobbie bag for drops it wont be such and issue. I catn even imagine someone using near 160 items for one job just in gear. I think inventory woes will be much reduced after this and if they proceed with makin most unstackables stackable.

[lllen]

Cautiously optimistic that this system will alleviate a lot of storage woes (still waiting on those 99 stacks )

One thing I have found, its just like a girls purse, you grow to the size. It will alleviate everything until you add more and no one can resist adding more when there is more room...lol

[Puck]

Hey, does anybody remember when SE said they would look into making it so furniture doesn't take up Mog Safe space? That way you could fully decorate your house, max storage capacity, and still be able to actually use your safe to store things.

I wonder whatever happened to that?

[Alhanelem]

Hey, does anybody remember when SE said they would look into making it so furniture doesn't take up Mog Safe space? That way you could fully decorate your house, max storage capacity, and still be able to actually use your safe to store things.

I wonder whatever happened to that?Actually I don't remember this, but "looking into" doesn't mean something will happen.

[Raydeus]

Hey, does anybody remember when SE said they would look into making it so furniture doesn't take up Mog Safe space? That way you could fully decorate your house, max storage capacity, and still be able to actually use your safe to store things.

I wonder whatever happened to that?

I seem to remember something about this as well. And it would be a great addition to our mog house.

Hopefully it will happen sooner rather than later, but we'd need to know if it's actually possible to implement.

Camateeeeee!

[Trumpy]

I do remember something like this as well but I remember it being given low priority/not likely to happen. Though i would love this. the one reason i dont do anything with furniture is because of invo space i would lose. I also was disappointed when i first got a mannequin and found you had to have that armor in your "storage" to dress it up.