View Full Version : More gear that has both Haste and Pet Haste please!
Ophannus
04-22-2014, 09:36 AM
We need more pieces of equipment like this:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/thumb/a/ae/Hurch%27lan_Sash_description.png/300px-Hurch%27lan_Sash_description.png
I don't think Pet Jobs should have to choose whether to buff themselves or their pets, we should have gear options to enhance both simultaneously as pet jobs are a bit weaker than other jobs. PUP has a lot of Relic/Artifact and Empyrean armor piece that grant bonuses to both the Puppetmaster as well as the Automaton, and Dragoon does as well but would like to see more instances of pieces that grant both Haste and Pet Haste for pet jobs including PUP SMN BST DRG.
Mitruya
04-22-2014, 11:19 PM
Agreed.
I find that in gearing PUP, I have to mix-and-match and make different builds depending on whether the pet is fighting or not (like say reives). Maybe that was the whole point in all these sidegrades, but it would be nice if my TP gear had more buffs for the pet to improve its damage/survivability.
It'd also be nice if the wyvern hp and defense gear was more usable outside of Healing/Restoring Breath macros.
And seriously, why isn't DRG on the Hurch'lan sash?!
Tennotsukai
04-23-2014, 04:38 AM
I've been wondering why pet jobs don't have more gear like a thaumas coat but with stats mixed between pet and owner. Would help out job balancing
dasva
04-24-2014, 09:19 AM
I've been wondering why there isn't just more pet stats to begin with let alone mixed for both master and pet
Louispv
04-25-2014, 07:08 PM
Because most of the pet gear is utter crap, since they take AWAY stats from the master to give stats to the pet. Just look at totemic and ankusa gear, most other jobs have att and acc on them, BST's armor doesn't, because it has pet acc and att. So your option is weaken your pet to strengthen yourself, or weaken yourself to strengthen the pet, even though every other job just gets stronger with better gear.
For instance WAR's body (http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Agoge_Lorica_%2B1) and BST's body. (http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Ankusa_Jackcoat_%2B1) In order to give the pet DD stats, they take them away from the master. In order for this stuff to be useful, Ankusa should have the same stats as Agoge, AND pet stats.
Ophannus
04-26-2014, 11:44 AM
They need to add gear that has powerful stats for both master and pet.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/File:28505_description.png
3% Double Attack is nice for pets but does it really beat 5-7% from a Brutal Earring or Steelflash+Bladeborn Earring for the player? No, no it does not. Either allow pets to benefit from gear that players wear or start introducing more gear that has pet stats on it as an augment or something.
I think the following stats on gear should be transferable to pets:
50% of STR/DEX/VIT/AGI/INT/MND/CHR on player gear should transfer to pets.
30% of Attack/Accuracy/Magic Accuracy/Magic Attack/Evasion on player gear should transfer to pets.
25% of Haste/Store TP/Double/Triple/Quadruple Attack/Zanshin/Killer/misc job traits on player gear should transfer to pets.
Another option is to make the above into a Job Trait, call it "Heraldry" and pet job can get varying levels of "Heraldry" so that jobs like DRG and SMN can transfer a larger % of their gear to pets since their pets are a bit weaker compared to PUP's and BST's.
Any stat that specifically says "Pet: Stat+X" should give the full value but other stats should transfer based on the above ratios.
While the previous version updates have given large bonuses to pet damage, there's still much to be desired, especially in difficult content where even players struggle to land accurately without BRD and COR buffs let alone pets which mostly whiff.
Because most of the pet gear is utter crap, since they take AWAY stats from the master to give stats to the pet. Just look at totemic and ankusa gear, most other jobs have att and acc on them, BST's armor doesn't, because it has pet acc and att. So your option is weaken your pet to strengthen yourself, or weaken yourself to strengthen the pet, even though every other job just gets stronger with better gear.
For instance WAR's body (http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Agoge_Lorica_%2B1) and BST's body. (http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Ankusa_Jackcoat_%2B1) In order to give the pet DD stats, they take them away from the master. In order for this stuff to be useful, Ankusa should have the same stats as Agoge, AND pet stats.
Yeah and the "Charm +12" should burn in a fire, gimme something actually good please.
dasva
05-01-2014, 10:10 AM
Yeah and the "Charm +12" should burn in a fire, gimme something actually good please.
Or actually make charming worthwhile for anything except maybe weird jp farming in the gates since it has level 120+ mobs
Camate
05-13-2014, 06:58 AM
Hello!
You’ll all be happy to know that we will be adding more gear with haste for pets as well as equipment that will boost other pet stats as we move forward. :)
Hello!
You’ll all be happy to know that we will be adding more gear with haste for pets as well as equipment that will boost other pet stats as we move forward. :)
Good to hear! Please make them also good for the master to wear, so we don't have to choose which part of our damage will be gimped!
dasva
05-13-2014, 03:03 PM
Hello!
You’ll all be happy to know that we will be adding more gear with haste for pets as well as equipment that will boost other pet stats as we move forward. :)
Will bst get it too? Cause lately pup and smn have been getting a bit notably skirmish armor and delve 2.0 armor has pet stats for them but none for bst... also noticed there is only a couple of pet mab for bst and now that we have a nice magic move would be nice to do more of that too...
sweetidealism
05-14-2014, 01:09 AM
My Puppetmaster is waaaaay over haste cap currently, but there's nothing better available to replace the extra haste. I would love to see a few new pieces that don't have haste, but instead have much better stats elsewhere (indeed you can never have enough pet haste), made available.
My Puppetmaster is waaaaay over haste cap currently, but there's nothing better available to replace the extra haste. I would love to see a few new pieces that don't have haste, but instead have much better stats elsewhere (indeed you can never have enough pet haste), made available.
Yes, this. With the big haste numbers on headgear currently, I go over haste cap (just wearing what's best not trying to stack haste) simply by putting on the moepapa stone to give my pet haste. Would be great to have more variety in gear overall. Almost everything seems really same-y right now outside of the JSE.
Ophannus
07-03-2014, 06:15 AM
Would be nice to see Pet Haste on Empyrean armor for DRG in matching quantities to haste to the player. You guys dropped the ball with Relic Armor reforged :(
As of right now there are only 3 pieces of equipment that DRG can wear that have Pet:Haste
Spurrer Beret
Kuku Stone
Moepapa Stone
Can you please moving forward add Pet:Haste to more Head/Body/Legs/Hands/Feet equipment that DRG BST PUP SMN can wear, specifically Empyrean armor and general sets(new Skirmish DD gear((not as an augment)) etc. Make it a staple attribute to add like other ilvl stats. Most ilvl gear has player haste, why not make all ilvl gear also have pet haste too? It's not like pets can receive Marches/Haste/Haste Samba anyway.