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Tetsujin
03-19-2014, 07:19 AM
The empress' attacks were cute for the BCNM but... seriously?

The sissy attack animations are depressing and the lack of automatons makes no tactical sense: Nashmeira is a *puppetmaster.* If you weren't expecting people to demand the accompanying automatons you should never have released this Trust in the first place.

All this aside, her TP move is pretty solid, and I'm stoked about the character herself.

Demonjustin
03-19-2014, 07:43 AM
I like Trust but I have to say they have been making some critical errors with the system that really take away from it all and make it a lot less fun or useful than it could be.

Sekhmet
03-19-2014, 08:00 AM
I am mostly in favor of the trust system, although the over saturation of all these trust npcs so quickly is a bit overwhelming. Also, if i may suggest something: please please please make a separate magic list for Trust. all the trust spells at the bottom of my magic list is making it a bit frustrating navigating the quickly needed spells. I tend to put spells like sleep, sleepga, etc at the bottom of the list so i could get to them quickly, with the Trust spells there, I've died a few times being unable to hit sleep in time.

And before anyone says "Macro your spells" let me say i already do macro most of my spells, but certain ones were always more useful in the magic list rather then macros. I tend to use both macros and the spell list at the same time, keeping it open for a quick cure or sleep while using macros for nuking or enfeebling, etc.

Raydeus
03-19-2014, 08:08 AM
Her automatons are already planned aren't they? So the way I see it considering the way they are it makes more sense for them to be separate Trust characters instead.

AI needs to be improved and hopefully they'll do that in time, but so far I'm pretty happy with Trust. And can't wait to have Prishe, Nashmeira and Lilisette in the same party. d(^^d)

Lithera
03-19-2014, 10:25 AM
The slapping hit animation could be changed the other hitting animation could be kept though. Love that the red one even said that they had been asked to test trust in its beta phase when getting Nashmeira's trust.

Ziyyigo-Tipyigo
03-19-2014, 10:46 AM
Probably too little, too late, but she really should be "Aphmau" because spoilers.

bungiefanNA
03-19-2014, 03:07 PM
Her automatons are already planned aren't they? So the way I see it considering the way they are it makes more sense for them to be separate Trust characters instead.

AI needs to be improved and hopefully they'll do that in time, but so far I'm pretty happy with Trust. And can't wait to have Prishe, Nashmeira and Lilisette in the same party. d(^^d)

The Ciphers for the puppets are already in the game data as of the patch.

Demonjustin
03-19-2014, 03:56 PM
Her automatons are already planned aren't they? So the way I see it considering the way they are it makes more sense for them to be separate Trust characters instead.To some extent, yes, to another, no. Doing what they are is no different than giving us a BST NPC but then at the same time making their pet another NPC, or giving us a SMN NPC with Avatar NPCs to be used with them. What point is there in having a PUP rather than a MNK when the PUP isn't a real PUP, they are just a gimp MNK not even utilizing half of their job's abilities because they have no Automaton. It's similar to what a BST NPC would be just Dual Wielding Axes, yay, a WAR/DNC without Berserk/Provoke!

Basically, the problem here is they ripped out a part of her job and stuck it on another party member, she's not even a real PUP, even if I summon her Automatons she doesn't command them, she just fights along side them. In the end I am giving up another party spot to feel like the character is more complete, if i want her to have both, I have to devote all 3 of my Trust slots to a single character for that reason.

Lithera
03-19-2014, 09:57 PM
Why should her name be different? They don't really try very hard to hide who she really is even if everyone else does their best in not calling her by her proper name until her brother get all ok sis you can't just be running around with this adventure all willy nilly cause you're the_____. We get introduced to the empress's automatons very early in the missions and then hey they're hanging out with this girl who gets mad at them because they're not listening to her while everyone else face palms in the background. By the time the story spells it out for you most people hopefully already have figured it out.

Ziyyigo-Tipyigo
03-20-2014, 12:07 AM
They don't really try very hard to hide who she really is

Even if I were to grant you that, it's irrelevant.


We get introduced to the empress's automatons very early in the missions and then hey they're hanging out with this girl who gets mad at them because they're not listening to her

Like the mission says, she's the Royal Puppeteer.

FaeQueenCory
03-20-2014, 02:06 AM
But you need to complete ToAU to get her Trust anyways....
Hiding her real identity after you already know....

is just stupid.

Demonjustin
03-20-2014, 06:16 AM
But you need to complete ToAU to get her Trust anyways....
Hiding her real identity after you already know....

is just stupid.While I think the story reason is kinda dumb because I knew who she was the moment I saw her basically(wasn't hard to pick up on in my opinion) I will admit that even though you may need to finish to unlock her, that doesn't exactly stop anyone who hasn't unlocked her from seeing her. Also if she's trying to hide her identity from the common man, she would likely ask you to call her a different name so people don't easily know who she is. Either way, like I said, I think the story reason is kinda eh but at the same time that line of thinking makes sense on why this NPC is bleh.

Ziyyigo-Tipyigo
03-20-2014, 06:32 AM
But you need to complete ToAU to get her Trust anyways....

That doesn't stop others from seeing the distinct character model following you around with "Nashmeira" written over her head.

Peepiopi
03-21-2014, 02:22 PM
Probably too little, too late, but she really should be "Aphmau" because spoilers.

Maybe they should call her HALFmau! kekeke.. You know, because she's half a puppetmaster :p

I agree though. I'm just now starting the ToAU missions finally after years of neglect to unlock those trusts. Since I'm still early in the missions, I wouldn't have known they were the same if not for this alter ego. So yeah. way to spoil it SE lol..

Camiie
03-23-2014, 08:41 AM
Actually I would have preferred they call her Aphmau just because it's easier to type ><