View Full Version : Bought the Game and HDD 10 Years Ago...
HughJass170
03-10-2014, 03:08 AM
Hello,
As the title states, I bought the game and HDD set 10 years ago or so when it was first released in the USA. With poor internet back then, I never actually played it. I installed the HDD and bought a network adapter, but never used them. A few days ago, I found my PS2 in storage and forgot what was wrong with it (I bought a slim one years ago because my big one, that I've had since it's release, was broken).
I opened it up, cleaned it up (was VERY dirty from sitting in an outdoor storage shed for 7 years), and assumed it didn't work. Plugged it in, and the red light came on! Turned it on and was very surprised that it still worked. I tried to open the tray, but it wouldn't open, and that's when I remembered that that was the problem. I then opened it up, cleaned the lens, and watched a youtube video on how to fix the disc tray. The tray wasn't on the rack correctly, was a PITA to fix, but worked! Then I tried to use the controller and it didn't work. Opened it back up, and the cable ribbon going to the controller ports had a crease on it. Ordered a new one from Ebay, installed it, and the PS2 works great! The only problem is that if it stands vertical, the tray won't open. No problem.
Then I got curious. I figured that I missed out on a very rich experience because I LOVE final fantasy games, and that no one plays this game any more. I put in the install disc anyway and it took about an hour and a half to update playonline and configure my internet. I then created a square enix account and entered the registration code found in the big manual that came with the game. It worked! I also used the FFXI registration code and it also worked. It was a HUGE pain to figure out how to get a content ID. Why it is so buried and difficult is beyond me. It took some searching on forums to find out that others have had similar struggles.
After hours of figuring that out, I finally was able to enter FFXI. In doing so, I was prompted to update the game. It took 10 and a half hours to download and install 10 years worth of updates, so the PS2 went at it all night. I created a character, and am finally able to play! I will have very little time to play now, but I will get at it at some point soon.
Just thought others would think this was a pretty cool story; I sure do! I am happy to finally experience this game! Hello to all!
Mirage
03-10-2014, 04:38 AM
Cool! Now get the windows version :p
Selindrile
03-10-2014, 05:33 AM
Yeah I hate to say it, but as platforms go, the PS2 is a poor one these days, if you've got a PC (even a pretty crappy one, and I assume you do since you're posting on the forum), I highly reccomend playing on PC, you don't have to even buy it for PC, your PS2 character and POL-ID will work, though you'll have to re-download it, obviously for PC.
bungiefanNA
03-10-2014, 07:43 AM
He's likely missing all expansions past Promathia though, if he even bought that. The game is going to be hard to play missing those, and buying a collection for PC is cheaper than buying the expansions individually. It's possible to install to either platform nowadays without the actual discs, even Adoulin on PS2 which didn't get a disc outside of Japan.
Ziyyigo-Tipyigo
03-10-2014, 08:18 AM
Try to get your hands on a copy of the PS2 version of the "Vana'diel Collection" from 2008. It contains everything that was ever (or will ever be) released for the NA version of the PS2. Otherwise you'll be scrounging around for Chains of Promathia, Treasures of Aht Urhgan and Wings of the Goddess separately.
HughJass170
03-10-2014, 09:00 AM
Thank you for the replies!
I looked around Ebay for the collection of expansions (I have Rise of the Zilart already) and found that most of them either say that the codes have been used, or don't say either way. And if they haven't been used, they are priced to the point that ordering them, paying shipping, and waiting wouldn't be better than buying and downloading them separately online. I will hold off until I explore and realize that I need them, because I doubt I will spend much time on this game until summer.
Also, as far as keyboards go, are there any specific ones that I should use, or will any USB keyboard do fine? If I find that I will be able to spend enough time on the game, I will probably go the PC route, but until then, I want to at least use the hardware that I have saved all this time, for no other reason than nostalgia and feeling bad that my mother bought this stuff for me back then and I didn't use it. HAHA!
Ziyyigo-Tipyigo
03-10-2014, 10:39 AM
I looked around Ebay for the collection of expansions (I have Rise of the Zilart already) and found that most of them either say that the codes have been used, or don't say either way.
If you can pick up the "Ultimate Collection" for PC, do so. You'd still need PS2 media to play on the PS2, but the registration codes are universal so that you only need one set of codes to access content on all three platforms.
(It will also give you the added bonus of giving you some low-level swag designed for players just starting out.)
Unfortunately for you, it still seems to be sitting at ~$30 a year after the release of Seekers of Adoulin and the associated "Ultimate Collection Seekers Edition," while the "Ultimate Collection Abyssea Edition" flirted with $5 just before the launch.
(If you'd like to wait, it is technically possible to go all the way to level 117 using only the software you have now.)
Also, as far as keyboards go, are there any specific ones that I should use, or will any USB keyboard do fine?
There's a list of approved keyboards here (http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/envi/ps/ps01.html?pageID=ps), but in general any USB keyboard should work fine, provided it's just a USB keyboard. For example, I've had issues with keyboards with integrated touchpads. Keep things cheap and simple and you should do fine.
NOTE: The PS2 version as a longstanding issue where some keystrokes repppppppeat randommmmly on occasion. It's not you, it's not the keyboard, it's the game.
Mirage
03-11-2014, 12:11 AM
Correct. If you get a registration code for PC, you can use any relevant PS2 media to install the game on your PS2, even if the codes for those particular copies have been used. As far as SE is concerned, you have paid for access to the expansions, and are paying for monthly access to the service.
bungiefanNA
03-11-2014, 04:38 AM
I buy all the expansions for PS2 myself, since I need JP registration codes, and that's the easiest physical copy to get since download copies are unpurchasable with an IP outside of Japan. I also started on PS2 near JP launch. Once an expansion is registered, it is unlocked on your account on all platforms, as long as it is installed. They only changed the system for FFXIV, where you have to have paid for a copy and registered it for each different platform you play on (PC, PS3, and PS4). FFXI doesn't care what region or platform your client is as long as you've registered the data.
I buy all the expansions for PS2 myself, since I need JP registration codes, and that's the easiest physical copy to get since download copies are unpurchasable with an IP outside of Japan. I also started on PS2 near JP launch. Once an expansion is registered, it is unlocked on your account on all platforms, as long as it is installed. They only changed the system for FFXIV, where you have to have paid for a copy and registered it for each different platform you play on (PC, PS3, and PS4). FFXI doesn't care what region or platform your client is as long as you've registered the data.
Wait are you saying you can actually play FFXIV on the PS4? :O
Mirage
03-11-2014, 11:59 PM
There is a version for PS4 in development. There have been beta tests.
bungiefanNA
03-12-2014, 12:59 AM
Wait are you saying you can actually play FFXIV on the PS4? :O
Those people in the beta have been warned that upgrading their PS3 version to PS4 for no cost will lose access to the PS3 version. The FC I was in was complaining about that. I don't have either PS platform, so it isn't something I've experienced.
Mirage
03-12-2014, 01:07 AM
If they didn't want to upgrade their PS3 version to a PS4 version, they could have kept their PS3 version and bought a brand new PS4 version. Some people are just spoiled.
bungiefanNA
03-12-2014, 11:32 AM
If they didn't want to upgrade their PS3 version to a PS4 version, they could have kept their PS3 version and bought a brand new PS4 version. Some people are just spoiled.
It's more that they have a PS3 at each location, and a PS4 at one location, and their spouse plays at the same time. They want to upgrade to PS4 so they can free up the PS3 for their spouse, but by doing so, they lose access to playing on the PS3 at their in-laws' house when visiting, because they dared upgrade to PS4. Another had their PS4 break a few weeks after getting it, with a turnaround of a month to get a replacement, and that could be time they wouldn't be able to play if they are console-only and upgraded, because they can't fall back to the backup platform.
I'm surprised they require registration for each platform myself. My other platforms are a backup for when one doesn't work, as I've had times in the past where either the PS2 or the PC version wasn't working properly (PS2 didn't work with ClearWire internet, and PC version stopped working with my graphics card when WotG released). Having to buy yet another copy to use my same account would be frustrating. Many MMOs offer the client download for free and you just pay the subscription. SE has even made the PC client freely downloadable several times. I understand the copy protection on console discs, because console manufacturers make that mandatory, but PC has no such limitation, and even on consoles you can borrow an install disc.
Hmmm very very interesting...but wait...if they were going to make it for the PS4 why make it...for the...PS3?
bungiefanNA
03-13-2014, 05:17 PM
PS4 wasn't out in 2010 when FFXIV came out and they had been working on a PS3 version. Part of ARR was decreasing the game requirements to fit within PS3 capabilities, and then PS4 came out. Supporting a current console makes sense, and Xbox One won't get SE the same deal they got with FFXI of not requiring a Live subscription and MS servers.
Mirage
03-13-2014, 06:43 PM
ps3 also has a much larger install base. I doubt you'll be able to play on ps4 without a psn+ membership.
ps3 also has a much larger install base. I doubt you'll be able to play on ps4 without a psn+ membership.
But now wait that still doesn't quite make sense, even if it wasn't out they had to know it was coming, and to try to say...that they wanted people to...buy it for the PS3 simply because of no psn membership? Kinda...kinda...kinda screwy.
Mirage
03-14-2014, 04:25 AM
That's not what I said.
The PS3 has a very much larger install base, and will have so for quite a while, considering most people that actually do want a PS4 right now can't buy it because most stores are out of stock. With a PS3 version, they also reach out to markets where many players might think the PS4 is still way too expensive
Then I also said, on a completely unrelated note, that you'll probably have to pay for PSN+ membership for online play on the PS4, even if it is an MMO not run on Sony's own servers.
So are you saying that you can...play...FFXIV...without a membership on the PS3 but it may/will be impossible on the PS4? Because that is kinda what I was trying to find out. And on a side note just because it has more people playing don't mean they might not feel tricked (maybe?) If they bought it for their PS3 and then bam out for the newer system not 2 years later. Erm or is it three? dang time is flying.
And not only that the OP hasn't even confirmed whether he is getting this game for the pc or Xbox or...PS4...jk I KNOW it won't be for the PS4...or will it?
Mirage
03-14-2014, 06:50 AM
So are you saying that you can...play...FFXIV...without a membership on the PS3 but it may/will be impossible on the PS4? Because that is kinda what I was trying to find out. And on a side note just because it has more people playing don't mean they might not feel tricked (maybe?) If they bought it for their PS3 and then bam out for the newer system not 2 years later. Erm or is it three? dang time is flying.
No, they won't feel tricked because they can upgrade their PS3 version to a PS4 version for free.
/em runs out and gets a PS3...seriously
bungiefanNA
03-14-2014, 09:22 AM
PS3 -> PS4 upgrade is either free or low-cost, I can't remember the details, but immediately deactivates the PS3 version on your account. This is the problem my friends were facing. PS3s are common enough to have access to multiple systems. PS4s are rarer and more expensive, and the initial failure rates were concerning.
Mirage
03-14-2014, 11:05 PM
Well, no one is forcing you to upgrade right away. You can wait for as long as you want before upgrading. Or you can just buy the game again cause it costs like 20 bucks now. Normal procedure for most games is to have to buy the game anew for every platform you want to play on, SE offers you a chance to migrate to your new console for no extra charge, and I'm not sure how anyone can be upset over the terms of this offer. Some people will never be satisfied, I guess. If playing the game on both your old PS3 and your new PS4 is so important, you can just go buy another copy of the game. It costs like 25 dollars. If you can afford a PS4, you can afford that.