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machini
03-06-2014, 07:40 PM
I have played FFXI on and off, since NA release, on one account or another. I have spend more than 1% of my entire life playing this game (just on my most recent character), and I no longer see any reason to play this game.

Every update I have seen come out since the latest expansion has struck me as half-assed and barely thought through. The latest expansion itself was released in an unfinished state, and nearly a year later all the content that should have been in it at release still isn't there, and what is there is often half-finished itself.

We're getting a new Merit Point system. Wow! What a wonderful thing we didn't have before! Instead of just expanding the previous merit point system, allowing us to spend more points in existing categories, or adding new categories for us to spend points in, you decided to duplicate the system! Wonderful! What a new, inventive, original idea worthy of having time spent on it.

Cait Sith? Awesome. It's been so long since we had a new Avatar. And this one has all of seven abilities! And they're so unique in their effects, too!

New Delve content? Great! It's not as if this shouldn't have been included from the release of Adoulin. And it's such great, finished content that the new delve stuff doesn't even have its down zones!

Everything I have seen in this game in the last year has convinced me that the development team either does not have the time, resources, or some other unspecific quality required to produce good content. It tells me that they are riding on the idea that we have sunk too much time into FFXI to quit now.

Personally, I think this is due to FFXIV, and SE redirecting resources to try to bolster that sinking ship, to the detriment of the game that people have demonstrated they're willing to play for years and years.

Whatever the reasons, I don't really think this game is worth playing anymore.

Herby
03-06-2014, 07:49 PM
Great! One whiny person less! Seems like anything SE does can only be wrong. Have fun with your life.

Hercule
03-06-2014, 08:00 PM
I personally like the idea of the new type of "merit category" with new type of "points"
Just because if you want to level this new category, i believe it will be more difficult to get than actual Merit point and you will have to play on the job you want to increase, this mean, you will be not able anymore to get a full merit/full skilled job that you never played it once for real, well i guess from what said SE.

Maybe this will reintroduce 6 man exp pt also, stop massive afk people leeching free exp and make a real teamwok experience pts party as it was back on lv 75
I have lot of hope in this new system and i hope SE have created it properly

Selindrile
03-06-2014, 08:03 PM
Can I have your stuff?

Demonjustin
03-06-2014, 09:26 PM
Personally, the game has been getting better every update, I can't see how you find half of these things half assed except the expansion itself and that's no different than any expansion released in this game's lifetime so to complain about that is like complaining that it's 7:30 right now and the sun is already coming up, it's been doing that since the first day I saw it, nothing new to complain about here.

Lithera
03-06-2014, 09:32 PM
Lol wow. You were not around when WotG came out that was unfinished too. You also sound like the people who complain about XIV because they didn't reboot it with a mega crap ton of stuff to do along with the 1st expansion. Cait is a work in progress probably because SE wants us to abuse the living crap out of her and give feed back before finishing her up.

Guess it's time for asura to have an I'm quitting sale.

Mefuki
03-06-2014, 10:37 PM
FFXI is pretty much the best it's ever been now and getting better. So, I don't know what to tell you.

Raydeus
03-07-2014, 12:50 AM
@OP

If you feel that way you should take a break. Maybe you'll want to play again someday, maybe you wont.

Either way there are a ton of games, not only MMOs but also single and multiplayer, out there to keep playing a game that doesn't do it for you anymore. gl/hf

(Good luck and have fun.)

Draylo
03-07-2014, 12:55 AM
SE has been pumping out so many updates that it's astounding. They have never updated this game as much as they have in the past few months at this pace lol. How you can complain is beyond me.

Zarchery
03-07-2014, 01:21 AM
A lot of folks have gone through this. I have a few times and taken a few breaks. Some folks leave permanently. Just don't pull a Crevox and post a couple hundred posts complaining about how much you hate the game and it's no big deal.

Infidi
03-07-2014, 02:01 AM
No one has a proper .GIF for this ? :( I'm far too lazy too search for one . D: J/k, j/k. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I prefer the almost monthly updates to the 6 month ones before. (More stuff to complain about sooner! :D) Kidding!?!?

Siviard
03-07-2014, 02:05 AM
Oh look, it's another "I'm quitting the game" thread and the OP is......from Asura!

Coincidence? I think not.

Infidi
03-07-2014, 02:13 AM
Oh look, it's another "I'm quitting the game" thread and the OP is......from Asura!

Coincidence? I think not.

Are you "Asura" ? Hahahaha! -.- Funnier in my head.

Siviard
03-07-2014, 02:22 AM
Are you "Asura" ? Hahahaha! -.- Funnier in my head.

I see what you did there! Well played!

Lithera
03-07-2014, 04:27 AM
Infidi that is funny.

Infidi
03-07-2014, 06:35 AM
Infidi that is funny.

If you like that one, maybe you "Shiva(Sheeva)" left a tip. (This ones even worse, feel free to flog me.) :D

Lithera
03-07-2014, 06:56 AM
You might like it though so, no. Lol

Vivivivi
03-07-2014, 08:05 AM
I have played FFXI on and off, since NA release, on one account or another. I have spend more than 1% of my entire life playing this game (just on my most recent character), and I no longer see any reason to play this game.

Every update I have seen come out since the latest expansion has struck me as half-assed and barely thought through. The latest expansion itself was released in an unfinished state, and nearly a year later all the content that should have been in it at release still isn't there, and what is there is often half-finished itself.

We're getting a new Merit Point system. Wow! What a wonderful thing we didn't have before! Instead of just expanding the previous merit point system, allowing us to spend more points in existing categories, or adding new categories for us to spend points in, you decided to duplicate the system! Wonderful! What a new, inventive, original idea worthy of having time spent on it.

Cait Sith? Awesome. It's been so long since we had a new Avatar. And this one has all of seven abilities! And they're so unique in their effects, too!

New Delve content? Great! It's not as if this shouldn't have been included from the release of Adoulin. And it's such great, finished content that the new delve stuff doesn't even have its down zones!

Everything I have seen in this game in the last year has convinced me that the development team either does not have the time, resources, or some other unspecific quality required to produce good content. It tells me that they are riding on the idea that we have sunk too much time into FFXI to quit now.

Personally, I think this is due to FFXIV, and SE redirecting resources to try to bolster that sinking ship, to the detriment of the game that people have demonstrated they're willing to play for years and years.

Whatever the reasons, I don't really think this game is worth playing anymore.

If you're no longer having fun, don't play :)
I took a good break when 14 came out, reached end game there, then saw the revamped hard mode BCs, AF, telepoints, new Adoulin zones etc.. and well I'm back! I personally think the criticism of the recent patches is undeserved, I feel like the dev and community teams have really kicked it up the past few months in delivering a balance of tweaks, new content, and new story.

bungiefanNA
03-07-2014, 08:19 AM
Every expansion was released incomplete. Zilart came before NA release, by about 6 months, so it didn't seem that way, and Promathia had also been planned from the beginning, but still lacked a bunch of stuff at the start. Zones always come out after expansion release. This is about par for Aht Urhgan as far as I can remember. Goddess was the only expansion to really stretch out a super large amount.

Elemmire
03-07-2014, 01:51 PM
I only recently came back after years and years of being away so I have a ton to catch up on, but ya, I think there is some validity in that they prolly have diverted some resources from FFXI to FFXIV. Pity cause I'd say FFXIV is a "meh" game. Gameplay is very standard and mainstream MMO. And the story/writing is bleh. FFXI's world and writing are still better.

Edyth
03-09-2014, 06:44 AM
I love how the original post has no likes. That's an indication of how much the game has improved recently. The game's updates have been amazing.

P.S.: If you're not happy now, please leave and never return. I don't know where you should go if you're such a whiny prima donna, but there must be somewhere for you.

Obysuca
03-09-2014, 08:47 AM
Pity cause I'd say FFXIV is a "meh" game. Gameplay is very standard and mainstream MMO. And the story/writing is bleh. FFXI's world and writing are still better.

I agree. It baffles me when I see tons of people defending XIV like it's the best thing ever. I've pointed out pretty big flaws in it (able to cap a job in 2-3 days and feels like a single player rpg with a meh story, for example) and people just defend the crap out of it lol :/

XI > XIV always, even the music is better in XI

Mirage
03-09-2014, 09:02 AM
Even the music? Especially the music.

Vivivivi
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
I agree. It baffles me when I see tons of people defending XIV like it's the best thing ever. I've pointed out pretty big flaws in it (able to cap a job in 2-3 days and feels like a single player rpg with a meh story, for example) and people just defend the crap out of it lol :/

XI > XIV always, even the music is better in XI

I get why people always compare XI to XIV but they're two totally different types of games. XIV seems much more geared towards the general Final Fantasy fan, and less to the type of person who would click with XI (slower steady progression with large payoffs over time, and battle strategies that are planned out in advance instead of reacted to on the spot).

As for the music, well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion obviously, but I personally LOVE the music of both games including 1.0 and ARR. XI's has a distinct charm to it that's absolutely fitting for the world, and likewise XIV's new (and old) soundtracks totally fit the feeling of each zone and the game as a whole.

There are aspects of both games I like better over the other, but for the past couple months (and foreseeable future), XI has my attention and money! Just having way more fun in Vana'diel than Eorzea at the moment.

P.S. if you dig the lore in XI, DO YOUR SEEKERS MISSIONS! GG! So many people I've talked to in game have barely progressed at all in SoA, and the storyline is really getting great.

Obysuca
03-12-2014, 07:18 AM
I get why people always compare XI to XIV but they're two totally different types of games. XIV seems much more geared towards the general Final Fantasy fan, and less to the type of person who would click with XI (slower steady progression with large payoffs over time, and battle strategies that are planned out in advance instead of reacted to on the spot).

As for the music, well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion obviously, but I personally LOVE the music of both games including 1.0 and ARR. XI's has a distinct charm to it that's absolutely fitting for the world, and likewise XIV's new (and old) soundtracks totally fit the feeling of each zone and the game as a whole.

There are aspects of both games I like better over the other, but for the past couple months (and foreseeable future), XI has my attention and money! Just having way more fun in Vana'diel than Eorzea at the moment.

P.S. if you dig the lore in XI, DO YOUR SEEKERS MISSIONS! GG! So many people I've talked to in game have barely progressed at all in SoA, and the storyline is really getting great.

Sad part is, it's not just XIV that's like that, all mmos are now :/ (handing people best gear, rushing to cap, no one talking etc)

Eh, XIV's was ok, but no where near XI's. Also for XIV >.> Same. Battle. Music. Everywhere. (minus Coil/CT)

Problem with doing SoA is that I recently came back from a year break and got chocoboblocked (lol) on the first bcnm one, no one seems to be doing it or even interested for it :/ Which is odd, comparing to the 9 years I've been on XI, people would be shouting for missions all the time, even years after they were done, but it's only been ~year

Lithera
03-12-2014, 11:54 PM
The one where the enemy actually heals you? Take out a trust npc if you're able to.

I like the corthas version of the fight music.

Inafking
03-13-2014, 01:24 AM
I wish SE would pay more attention to these threads. But it seems like they ignore them as much as the trolls feed on them. BTW, this is what these threads look like to me. The OP listing serious concerns about how they spend their time and a bunch of jerks I've already blocked responding.
http://i57.tinypic.com/34fmrtf.jpg

Mirage
03-13-2014, 02:00 AM
If SE had been paying more attention to these threads, you probably wouldn't have been able to post in them.

Kumop
03-13-2014, 11:17 AM
Personally, I think this is due to FFXIV, and SE redirecting resources to try to bolster that sinking ship, to the detriment of the game that people have demonstrated they're willing to play for years and years.

Over 1.8 Million Players begs to differ that its a sinking ship....

Zarchery
03-13-2014, 11:38 AM
I wish SE would pay more attention to these threads. But it seems like they ignore them as much as the trolls feed on them. BTW, this is what these threads look like to me. The OP listing serious concerns about how they spend their time and a bunch of jerks I've already blocked responding.


Except, as evidenced by your behavior in the "73 Beitsetsu" thread, you call anyone who disagrees with you a troll and block them, even people offering helpful advice in as friendly a manner as possible. It's becoming increasingly apparent that you demonstrate all the classic signs of being a troll; antagonistic and insulting posts, completely ignoring responses to you and just returning more antagonistic posts, and all around being an insufferable jerk.

Obysuca
03-14-2014, 03:30 AM
Over 1.8 Million Players begs to differ that its a sinking ship....

That was during release >.> A lot left after the free month, everyone could see that and judging by the XIV forums and my own experience before I quit in January, there's been quite a number of people who left also. So I'd say it's more around ~800k

Ravenmore
03-14-2014, 05:01 AM
I get why people always compare XI to XIV but they're two totally different types of games. XIV seems much more geared towards the general Final Fantasy fan, and less to the type of person who would click with XI (slower steady progression with large payoffs over time, and battle strategies that are planned out in advance instead of reacted to on the spot).

As for the music, well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion obviously, but I personally LOVE the music of both games including 1.0 and ARR. XI's has a distinct charm to it that's absolutely fitting for the world, and likewise XIV's new (and old) soundtracks totally fit the feeling of each zone and the game as a whole.

There are aspects of both games I like better over the other, but for the past couple months (and foreseeable future), XI has my attention and money! Just having way more fun in Vana'diel than Eorzea at the moment.

P.S. if you dig the lore in XI, DO YOUR SEEKERS MISSIONS! GG! So many people I've talked to in game have barely progressed at all in SoA, and the storyline is really getting great.

They fill the same basic niches and that is of a Final Fantasy themed MMO and a Japanese based MMO for the JDM nothing much else sets them apart from other MMOS(the story and CS could be another niche but from what many have seen posted and in game that doesn't seem to matter much). People forget that FFXI was nothing more then a clone of EQ but found a good niche with the Final Fantasy fan base. The many WoW clones fail cause they can't finds a niche to fill that WoW doesn't already have and the only niche WoW didn't have and were 14 is making head way with is FF name. The only game other then Final Fantasy that would come with such a large built in fan base would be a Starcraft MMO and even as a straight reskin and rename of WoW would make so much bank it would be sickening.

Mirage
03-15-2014, 12:25 AM
I would buy the shit out of a starcraft MMO, lol :(

Ravenmore
03-15-2014, 04:21 AM
I would buy the shit out of a starcraft MMO, lol :(

LOL yep and Blizz as well as every other MMO dev knows this all to well that they hold the keys to the kingdom and nothing they do will hurt or come close to blizz anytime soon. As soon as WoW hits rock bottom they have another cash cow just waiting to be milked.

Demonviper
03-16-2014, 05:24 AM
I have to wonder why SE didn't offer a "classic" server when they first started to go at old FFXI with a butcher's cleaver...

Ravenmore
03-16-2014, 05:35 AM
I have to wonder why SE didn't offer a "classic" server when they first started to go at old FFXI with a butcher's cleaver...

cause the 4 or 5 people on it wouldn't be able to do anything.

Demonviper
03-16-2014, 05:39 AM
cause the 4 or 5 people on it wouldn't be able to do anything.
Sounds just like the existing servers then. Populations are so small now and most of the people online are AFK idling, anyway.

What's your point?

Ravenmore
03-16-2014, 07:46 AM
Sounds just like the existing servers then. Populations are so small now and most of the people online are AFK idling, anyway.

What's your point?

Well lets look at it this way the good old days you are missing and that style of MMO are long dead, this can be backed up by the creator of EQ failing so hard every time he has tried to bring that play style back. His last kick starter barely made it to the half way point. People miss the good old days cause their friends were still playing the game not cause of the game it self and many of those friends left for what the old game was. If they said it was cause of the changes they were lying
to them selves or to their so call friends. They out grew the game, became bored with it at it's core or just no longer had the time to dedicate to a MMO and nothing SE could have done would have kept them around.

Any classic server would just be made of long dead and boring content anyway as well and as seen in the other treads new people don't want to bother with old content so they wouldn't join that server. Believe it or not people were long sick of sky, sea and limbus and every other old endgame event. The times people found killing Kirin to be fun was exceeded some where in 2005.

Basileus
03-17-2014, 09:06 PM
I can remember on Odin, when I started, there were upwards of 6000+ people on each day. In fact they had to stop letting people join that server. This was before level Sync, before crazy exp gain (DC was still only 50 xp), before pages etc. It's amazing that even though the game was so hard and difficult at that time, that there were more people playing at that time than there is now. I understand there are a million reasons to leave the game, however, assuming that making the game easy would make this game better isn't necessarily the answer either. A lot of people enjoy a challenge, regardless if you want to acknowledge that or not. I think the populations of the past, show that people like a challenge. Granted, it's probably an older crowd by age. This of course, is just my "personal" opinion.

Personally I would love to see another game come out that was as difficult as FFXI of old was. But then, I look at the game as something I would like to play for a while, not something I will conquer in a few months and be bored with.

Lithera
03-17-2014, 09:25 PM
Odin server shouldn't be used as an example though. It was a very popular server, one which you could win bets with saying I'm sure they are going to have to have a maintenance this week due to over population. Heck they even at a point begged people to move due to the over crowding. No other server had as much emergency maintenance as Odin did.

Damane
03-17-2014, 11:01 PM
I can remember on Odin, when I started, there were upwards of 6000+ people on each day. In fact they had to stop letting people join that server. This was before level Sync, before crazy exp gain (DC was still only 50 xp), before pages etc. It's amazing that even though the game was so hard and difficult at that time, that there were more people playing at that time than there is now. I understand there are a million reasons to leave the game, however, assuming that making the game easy would make this game better isn't necessarily the answer either. A lot of people enjoy a challenge, regardless if you want to acknowledge that or not. I think the populations of the past, show that people like a challenge. Granted, it's probably an older crowd by age. This of course, is just my "personal" opinion.

Personally I would love to see another game come out that was as difficult as FFXI of old was. But then, I look at the game as something I would like to play for a while, not something I will conquer in a few months and be bored with.

first of odin is a bad example because it was an overpopulated server compared to the other servers.

2. every MMO dwindles after some years. People "outgrow" them, this has nothing to do with the changes, infact I would rather say makeing the players life easier is what kept this MMO alive, because if it were as hardcore as several years ago i wouldnt be playing, because I and ALOT of other people dont have the time anymore to invest that much time into a game. They found the right amount of effort needed and amount of time needed to invest. Its still not an easy MMO compared to others, but its luckily also not hardcore grinding like it was.