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I know it seems I'm posting a lot but I'm just trying to get the ideas out there while there's time. This one is about letting us players transfer our characters back and forth between accounts. That is from pc to pc, Xbox 360 to Xbox 360, PS2 to PS2, pc to Xbox 360, PS2 to pc and finally PS2 to Xbox 360. If this is already possible in some way let me know but if not please try to provide it and just have it like the world transfer service.
Mnejing
02-12-2014, 05:34 AM
Afaik, they didn't want to due to rmt concerns.
Yeah but it should be a non-issue now that most are gone and they aren't even punishing rmts all that severely now. Or it sure doesn't seem like it. Wait that isn't fair to say, truth be told I have only gotten 1 rmt tell in 3 weeks or so, they most obviously moved on so that can't be the reason they'd not do it.
Dragoy
02-26-2014, 04:06 PM
I don't think simply bumping is really helpful (and I could easily see them considering it to be spam when you're adding nothing else to it).
Posting on the appropriate forums, however, might help (this is for website feedback, after all). ^^;
Anyblue, I will ask this: what is it that you are actually asking for?
I'm not entirely sure if it is to be able to trade/sell characters with other players? That is indeed called RMT in short.
I'm pretty sure that will not happen, and I would personally not support. I would say no even if it was just to be trading between friends for fun; I never was a fan of account trading/sharing in any game such as this.
If, however, you're asking to be able to play your PS2-character on your PC, that is entirely possible, since the accounts are not tied to any one platform.
I don't think simply bumping is really helpful (and I could easily see them considering it to be spam when you're adding nothing else to it).
Posting on the appropriate forums, however, might help (this is for website feedback, after all). ^^;
Anyblue, I will ask this: what is it that you are actually asking for?
I'm not entirely sure if it is to be able to trade/sell characters with other players? That is indeed called RMT in short.
I'm pretty sure that will not happen, and I would personally not support. I would say no even if it was just to be trading between friends for fun; I never was a fan of account trading/sharing in any game such as this.
If, however, you're asking to be able to play your PS2-character on your PC, that is entirely possible, since the accounts are not tied to any one platform.
Ah I actually specified that very thing in the 1st post, which is why I haven't added anything to it. But if you insist I kinda thought way back when they made us transfer our accounts that this was (maybe?) what they were gearing up for, a more secure account management system so that a character transfer service can be implemented. And we could pay for then move a character from pc account to PS2 or Xbox and vice versa. But of course (and I'll still never understand what happened) things actually became less secure, to the point they had to keep posting that warning every time we log in. But it's been awhile and like I think I said earlier I haven't been getting hardly any rmt tells so...maybe now?
Oh and since most likely it would have to be done on the website, this should be the correct place for this thread?
Dragoy
02-27-2014, 10:33 PM
Ah I actually specified that very thing in the 1st post, which is why I haven't added anything to it. But if you insist I kinda thought way back when they made us transfer our accounts that this was (maybe?) what they were gearing up for, a more secure account management system so that a character transfer service can be implemented.
The transfer to SQURE ENIX account was probably mainly to cut costs, and to have all their services under one roof, so to speak. There's a lot more than FFXI and FFX|V that make use of it, titles such as the latest incarnation of Thief, for example, which almost requires users to link their Sony Entertainment Network account to a SqEX account (I don't think I would consider that... thing... to belong to that series though, they should have named it something completely unrelated, but I digress).
It was likely easier to manage payment methods as well as they got away from the PlayOnline viewer that way.
Is it more secure? Well, I'm no expert, but extra layers often mean more layers for security-holes to exist. In other words, they can indeed make things less secure.
And we could pay for then move a character from pc account to PS2 or Xbox and vice versa.
As I mentioned previously, the accounts are not tied to any one platform, meaning that you can play on your account by using a PC, PS2, or an Xbox.
But of course (and I'll still never understand what happened) things actually became less secure, to the point they had to keep posting that warning every time we log in.
That may or may not be related. I wonder if they'll ever bother removing/changing it. ^^;
But it's been awhile and like I think I said earlier I haven't been getting hardly any rmt tells so...maybe now?
They still happen, but also possibly very much unrelated as to why it should not be possible to transfer characters between accounts.
Again, just to make sure, is it that you want to transfer a character from a PC account to a PS2 account (as an example)? I don't see a reason for that as they are not platform-specific.
Perhaps the only valid request I could see would be being able to transfer a character from PlayOnline account to another, provided they exist within the same SqEX account (and thus, should only be accessible by one, single user). That would mean that players could keep accessing a character without paying full fees for another service account.
Oh and since most likely it would have to be done on the website, this should be the correct place for this thread?
While yes, it would probably be something done via a website, it's not a suggestion like, for example, asking for the default colour of this page to be changed. Your suggestion is related to the account management system, I think, and as such, it is not about the website(s), nor in-game content, so the general discussion forum might be the best fit.
Even better might be the feedback form at the Support Centre, or so I first thought. It seems that, while for the EU-site it still exists, I just noticed that the NA-site redirects users to the forums. Funny that.
In any case, it's not that important. The moderators will move topics when/if they feel like it. I'm not trying to make it seem more serious than it should be, even though one can oft observe me pointing it out. ^^
Just my thoughts, as usual.
Dreamin
02-28-2014, 12:11 AM
I know it seems I'm posting a lot but I'm just trying to get the ideas out there while there's time. This one is about letting us players transfer our characters back and forth between accounts. That is from pc to pc, Xbox 360 to Xbox 360, PS2 to PS2, pc to Xbox 360, PS2 to pc and finally PS2 to Xbox 360. If this is already possible in some way let me know but if not please try to provide it and just have it like the world transfer service.
I just wanted to make sure I understands your question here. Are you trying to play the account/char on separated platform? Say, when you're traveling you want to be able to play on your notebook, when you're home you want to play on your xbox or ps2? Because you can already play your char on every platform as long as you have installation (pc) and/or media (ps2/xbox360).
Or are you truely asking can you transfer a char out of your main acct to say a friend's main acct?
Ok ok ok let me explain because I don't want you or SE to think I am asking to cheat here. I have a pc and an Xbox 360. Now I just recently got a pc account so I haven't really done much of anything with the characters on there. But on my 360 I have a leathercrafter and a bonecrafter, so I was thinking if I could maybe transfer my leathercrafting character over to the pc I could then have them and the bonecrafting character duo farm instead of, well, either making one of the stupid pc characters a bone or leather mule or farming then running to the city to dump the bones, horns or teeth and resetting the TH and then running back. It's a minor inconvenience I guess but if there is a way to just, you know, switch it would make things better. Now are you all saying there's a way to do that already and I just don't know how or is that actually considered cheating?
Dragoy
02-28-2014, 04:24 PM
Okies, I figured it might have been either that or the other.
Thankies for clarifying!
The other, which we are saying, is that the accounts are in no way or form tied to a platform; players are free to use one and the same account on any of the platforms, be it PC, PS2, or Xbox. There is no such thing as a “pc account”, for they're all the same.
What we can not do: log in on more than one character on the same PlayOnline account at the same time. Only one character per PlayOnline account is able to log in simultaneously via any platform.
What we can do: log in on two separate PlayOnline accounts at the same time, regardless of them being linked to the same SQUARE ENIX account or not.
So as one of my guesses was, I think this is what you want: you would like to be able to transfer a character from a PlayOnline account to another.
That's not too bad in my mind, as long as the PlayOnline accounts in question reside within the same SQUARE ENIX account. I still would guess that they (SQUARE ENIX) are too worried about possible account trading that this might somewhat promote (although the effects on that would be very minor, I imagine).
It would be convenient for some, that's fer sure. I have two accounts myself, and one of them is inactive now because the monthly fee is simply too high for me to care about activating it right now.
I'm not sure if I would ever transfer any characters around though...
Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm the only one asking for it now, although I did look it up on their faq page and it is there. But that thing doesn't look like it's been updated in a while.
Dragoy
03-01-2014, 07:07 PM
I did look it up on their faq page and it is there. But that thing doesn't look like it's been updated in a while.
Could you elaborate on that?
What FAQ-page exactly, and what did you look up?
Oh it's on the official website, scroll down to where it says service and support, it should lead you right to the faq page, then just search character transfer and you should find the question. Now that I think about it though, the question doesn't specify whether they mean the same account or are they talking about different account transfers, which is why I AM specifying: same account character transfers.
Dragoy
03-03-2014, 04:17 AM
Ah, the knowledge base.
I would imagine the article speaks of transferring PlayOnline accounts to a SQUARE ENIX account which became mandatory at that one point in time. Any article speaking of character transfer is likely related to transferring from a server to another, but I would need to see the particular one to be sure...
It's never been easy to find a certain one via the search there, and they're very inconsistent between regions, and I'm not sure if you're referring to the US or the EU site(s). If you could provide a link to the specific page, I could comment more accurately one that! ^^
I believe it's the NA site, and the question has actually been there BEFORE the mandatory transfer (it's why I say they don't appear to have updated it) the link I guess is...let's see if I can do this right... http://support.na.square-enix.com/faqarticle.php?kid=12221&id=20&la=1&ret=faq&pv=10&page=4&c=0&sc=0&so=4&q=character+transfer
There, hope that takes you to the right place
And note the answer, it's what kinda prompted me to ask
Dragoy
03-03-2014, 04:02 PM
Thanks. I had tried searching both the regions, but that search really isn't good, most of the time bringing up things like in-game wedding when searching for something completely different.
And indeed, I did not see that one, though I did give up rather quickly as it was much easier to ask you. ^^
And I see what you were saying now. This is the one, right?
Transferring characters to another account.
There is currently no way to move a character from one account to another. If you wish to play with two characters simultaneously, you will need to purchase another copy of FINAL FANTASY XI to register with PlayOnline again and obtain another Content ID.
Indeed, I believe it's telling the same as I did. That is, there is no way to transfer a character from account to another, whether they live under the same SqEX account or not.
Nothing is eternal, of course.
Yeah and like I also said it seems nonspecific, it could just as easily be asking to transfer their son/daughter/mom/dad/boyfriend/girlfriend/you get the idea character to their account. So when they say there's "currently no way to do it" are they saying they have been thinking of a way to ah, well, I will just say it , rmt a character lol? Now that I look at it....I really do think that's exactly what that's asking...DANG that's messed up :confused:
Dragoy
03-04-2014, 06:26 PM
I imagine, due to the inclusion of 'playing on more than one character at a time' on that answer, that they've received this question a lot indeed where a player has more than one character on one account and would like to play with them simultaneously. That's probably what they're referring to, I maybe guess.
I'm sure someone there has at least at some point thought about using real-money (micro transactions I guess people call it) in many ways, but I doubt they would ever allow characters to be traded. Not in this game.
But well, impossible is nothing. No one knows what the future will be like. ^^
Well it would be nice if a developer (hint hint) came to clarify the question and the answer, but since it's just me and you we'll never really know.
Inafking
03-05-2014, 01:51 AM
I have two POL accounts on the same SE account. As far as I can tell, these accounts have no interaction except for the use of a common 1 time password generator. I doubt they'll let us move characters around because it would be too easy to consolidate to 1 and they lose money.
It would be nice, however, if they would do more to let these interact. Ability to mail r/ex items to the same SE account instead of just POL, for example. How about the new $18 transfer fee apply to both instead of individually.
I'm posting in a thread about giving stuff to dual boxers. The troll flood gates are now open. Get your ignore button ready.
Dragoy
03-05-2014, 06:35 PM
Well it would be nice if a developer (hint hint) came to clarify the question and the answer, but since it's just me and you we'll never really know.
To have characters transfer between accounts is probably more likely than to have developers of this game come and post here. There's only a few posts ever that which their accounts were used to post non-Japanese around here, and I highly doubt those were written by them themselves. ^^;
I guess you mean community representatives, who relay questions and answers between us and the developers. But yeah, I'm just nitpicking here. Don't mind. =]
I doubt they'll let us move characters around because it would be too easy to consolidate to 1 and they lose money.
Yeah. I was going to say something along those lines as well, but I think I forgot. Even though what is being asked for here more or less still requires at least two different accounts, there is the chance of others using it to move a character into another account so as to not pay for the other any longer (which I probably used as an example somewhere).
It would be nice, however, if they would do more to let these interact. Ability to mail r/ex items to the same SE account instead of just POL, for example.
That, too, is no new thought at least to me. Many a time I've wondered why it isn't like so already. I guess it is to keep them different, still, as they know that some people do share a SqEX account even though it's a violation of the rules they set... How much sense that makes, is another story.
I'm not likely to transfer in any way myself, but what I would like to be able to do, is choose the 'number one' account! For some reason, some time ago, they flipped my service accounts around so that the number 1 became 2, and vice versa.
Highly irrelevant to anything, highly unnoticeable, yet, highly annoying! >:|
(When I asked them about it, they thought I wanted to move a PlayOnline ID from service account to another. It's almost funny (but not really) how it often takes at least two to three times to explain a matter like that, or the fact how they indeed block a name for X|V because 3 of its 6 alphabetical characters happen to form an obscure word in a non-English language (they flat-out denied they even block it at first, but now I really digress). I must learn to articulate more clearly, I probably think.)
Wouldn't it be more annoying that they switch it then start giving it all kinds of perks? :p