View Full Version : Empyrean Weapons Fix?
Pandemon
01-24-2014, 04:26 AM
Hello Forum,
I play FFXI since 2004(8pg) and i still love this game, it's fantastic! The new on-line FFIV is very good but i'll never play becouse (like all FFXI players) I spent a lot of time on XI.
The new contents are vey good (BCNM,WKR,Mission,Quest,RoE,AF119 ecc) but SE still do the same error, ADD NEW THINGS and forget about Old content.
Maybe people come back if:
-All new BCNM drop Hvy. Metal plate Pouch , 100's Dyna Coins, Alexandrite
-WKR drop Hvy. Metal plate Pouch , 100's Dyna Coins, Alexandrite
-increase Plasm point/kill from 50 to 200, 12.000-20.000 for run + NM's and Boss kill if you have people for 1-5+Boss.
R/E/M is the biggest contentment in FFXI or no?
Afterglow is the biggest bullshit in game.. 150 chunks of Mulcibar's scoria , 250 vials of umbral marrow, 3,000 Riftdross.
SE team who take this decision maybe never log in in game, In my opinion 10 Mulcibar's scoria, 10 vials of umbral marrow 10 Riftdross/cinders it's enough
I wanna Talk about Empyrean Weapons stage 1500 plate + 60 Riftcinders
Heavy Metal Pouch:
FFDB source:
Aello drop 774 Heavy Metal Pouch out of 12235 kills, Qilin 9195 out of 153384 and
Uptala 4153 out of 69620 total of 254196 plates(if all 18) in total 170 Empyrean stage 90-95....Aello,Qilin,Uptala drop rate around 6% (3-18 plates)
Add Heavy Metal Pouch drop to Bismarck,Morta,Ig-Alima ,Botulus Rex and change
Heavy Metal Pouch drop 100% (2-6 plates) for all NM's
6 stone -> Pouch x6 , up to 12-36 Plates... still 40-125
Riftcinder:
FFXI DB Source
Botulus Rex drop 442 out of 11416 ,Morta 1221 out of 31471,Bismarck 155 out of 10359 and Ig-Alima 661 out of 51520 total of 2479.....41 Empyrean 99
Change Drop rate to 2-3% up to 40% for Riftdross/Riftcinder and add this 2 drop to Aello,Qilin,Uptala witha 20% drop rate.
you can raise drop rate and NM's didifficulty but do something for Empy weapons, people love it, Maybe someone will be back with a "normal" drop%. You can half-solo Relic and Myth...but empy...GILBUYER don't count
This is my opinion.
Thx all for reply to post, i'm not mad, but player needed a realistic objective and a normal drop rate,considerate this(GILBUYER don't count) Someone of FFXI team ever try to farm emp 80-99? i have 6 emp 90.
This fix is possible? ahahaha
LET'S A PETITION START!:p LOL
bungiefanNA
01-24-2014, 08:28 AM
Keep in mind that FFXIDB only gathers stats from people running the Guildwork plugin, meaning they have to be using the third-party add-on that we're not supposed to mention. With VoidWatch drops, every member of the battle must have that for it to see the loot pools. As such, I expect those stats are much lower than actual, as JP players may not be using the plugin.
Demonjustin
01-24-2014, 08:30 AM
I fail to see how excluding an unbiased 30% of your results would really impact your overall average, its not as though they get drops more often than others or vice versa, so the data should be just as accurate either way.
Pandemon
01-25-2014, 02:39 AM
Keep in mind that FFXIDB only gathers stats from people running the Guildwork plugin, meaning they have to be using the third-party add-on that we're not supposed to mention. With VoidWatch drops, every member of the battle must have that for it to see the loot pools. As such, I expect those stats are much lower than actual, as JP players may not be using the plugin.
Maybe the Boss can tell us the real drop, NOC_EU you there? NOC_EU? NOC_EU? lol
yes it's true, FFXIDB it's statistic, anyway the drop rate is 6% and 1-3%... 100 kills 6 drop 18-108 suppose 40-60 plates range , needed something like Arch Dynamis Lord or Pandemonium Warden.(sure drop but different how to farm ), in VW you can spam AND spam pops but the drop rate is unfair, and Today not easy find player for VW . A new player how can do VW stage clear? lol
impossible compare XI with IV, IV for pussy
Pandemon
01-25-2014, 02:46 AM
We have to enlarge this topic, anyone have another idea ??
Anjou
01-25-2014, 03:28 AM
The entire system with VW's drops needs to be reworked, I think personally it should be part of the records of eminence thing, where if you kill Ig-Alima 20 times, you get one of the rare items he drops as a reward, and is repeatable. It'd bring back a grind yes, but it's a hell of a lot better than the horrific chances we currently have with the VW system.
But oh wait, this won't get looked at unless someone mentions the program that cannot be said.
Pandemon
01-25-2014, 06:00 AM
i'm here again :)
IF YOU HAVE A EMPYREAN WEAPONS please
Post you EMPYREAN and level or leave a comment about VW drops Experience, any advice it's accept!
Ask all your friends (if they still play) to post here and let's the protest expand!
Pandemon
01-25-2014, 06:07 AM
-Verethragna 85
-Twashtar 90
-Redemption 80
-Kannagi 90
-Masamune 90
-Armageddon 85
-Gandiva 85
No Relic. No Myth.
Farm around 170 Heavy Metal with /shout groups when all join VW runs. Never drop items for level 95-99 (Morta x40-50 kills)
bungiefanNA
01-25-2014, 06:16 AM
Maybe the Boss can tell us the real drop, NOC_EU you there? NOC_EU? NOC_EU? lol
yes it's true, FFXIDB it's statistic, anyway the drop rate is 6% and 1-3%... 100 kills 6 drop 18-108 suppose 40-60 plates range , needed something like Arch Dynamis Lord or Pandemonium Warden.(sure drop but different how to farm ), in VW you can spam AND spam pops but the drop rate is unfair, and Today not easy find player for VW . A new player how can do VW stage clear? lol
impossible compare XI with IV, IV for pussy
A new player can nearly solo starting city Voidwatch clears with voidclusters. Add a second or third player and you need fewer voidclusters. I've been getting my LS clears by doing shouts in Jeuno/Adoulin saying I'm prepping a city clear run, and I usually get a few extra people outside the LS. With a level 99 job and the 117 armor from RoE, the early monsters are a joke. I haven't doen Jeuno runs yet to know how easy those remain, but it appears clearing the majority of them is almost soloable now.
Damane
01-25-2014, 06:41 AM
I agree that empy should be easened up a bit, but they shouldnt become piss easy to do. After all some old relic/mythic holders worked their butt of too before dynamis and salvage became a free sauce party. not to mention the empy 99 holders that worked their butt off too
Kwate
01-25-2014, 07:38 AM
i'm here again :)
IF YOU HAVE A EMPYREAN WEAPONS please
Post you EMPYREAN and level or leave a comment about VW drops Experience, any advice it's accept!
Ask all your friends (if they still play) to post here and let's the protest expand!
I have...
90 Ochain
90 Gandiva
90 Kannagi
90 Almace
Which really solidifies your point.
impossible compare XI with IV, IV for pussy
WTF does IV have to do with anything? IV is easily one of the best games of all time.
http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/135503_S/Final-Fantasy-IV-The-After-Years.jpg
Roman numerals. 3rd grade education ftw.
Pandemon
01-25-2014, 09:44 PM
WTF does IV have to do with anything? IV is easily one of the best games of all time.
http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/135503_S/Final-Fantasy-IV-The-After-Years.jpg
Roman numerals. 3rd grade education ftw.
ahaha, Miss an X, i live in Rome, i know better than you Roman numerals.... Sure you are amereican...
Pandemon
01-25-2014, 09:50 PM
WTF does IV have to do with anything? IV is easily one of the best games of all time.
http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/135503_S/Final-Fantasy-IV-The-After-Years.jpg
Roman numerals. 3rd grade education ftw.
and this is a topic for ask a fix in FFXI, so if you are here for say bullshit, move away. We accept ideas and anything about Emp system. no Fake-idiot comment like yours.
Can correct my grammar ?
Demonjustin
01-25-2014, 10:51 PM
I agree with the whole idea of fixing VW/Empyrean Weapon upgrades but... where did FFXIV even come into this? First post was you, then a post from someone else mentioning FFXIDB, and then your post about how FFXIV is bad, literally random comment from nowhere, lets not start fights on either side for this completely irrelevant comment.
Anjou
01-25-2014, 11:21 PM
ahaha, Miss an X, i live in Rome, i know better than you Roman numerals.... Sure you are amereican...
Get out....
Kimjongil
01-26-2014, 12:24 AM
I have...
90 Ochain
90 Gandiva
90 Kannagi
90 Almace
Which really solidifies your point.
You sir have low IQ and a crybaby. First off, SE knows how many REM's it has handed out and how people have quit games with REMs. In addition they know the levels. These come out as sensors, or did in the old days.
I have a 119 Empy as well as an 85. And honestly the empys will be outdated for awhile to come, hence I don't mind making WoE for some of the weapon skills. believe it or not some weapons are even better too use then the empy for the weapon sill.
Dagen, Myrkr, Torncleaver, quintis are all better used on other weapons like relics. In some ways even CDC. In some ways the biggest joke is lvling a 90 empy to 119, spending all those millions and a r/ex drop or a ah tem can do empy weapon skill better. Or a relic.
P.S. I am sure empy items wll make it into RoE, or a new type of event. personally I hope hey don't.
Pandemon
01-26-2014, 02:58 AM
Get out....
you can get out, don't accept stupid things like Puck comment-.- idiot umorism.
Anjou
01-26-2014, 10:18 AM
you can get out, don't accept stupid things like Puck comment-.- idiot umorism.
I don't care what he posts, when you go "Stupid American" that involves me now because you made yourself look like an asshole.
ahaha, Miss an X, i live in Rome, i know better than you Roman numerals.... Sure you are amereican...
You "missed" X twice in a row, so no, I don't believe you just "missed" the X. I think you're just ignorant and seriously think they named it FFIV.
That kind of ignorance would fit right in line with a majority of your posts.
Pandemon
01-26-2014, 08:38 PM
You "missed" X twice in a row, so no, I don't believe you just "missed" the X. I think you're just ignorant and seriously think they named it FFIV.
That kind of ignorance would fit right in line with a majority of your posts.
i write stupid american? where? yes i'm ignorant, i study in american public school.
Demonjustin
01-26-2014, 09:04 PM
i write stupid american? where? yes i'm ignorant, i study in american public school.
ahaha, Miss an X, i live in Rome, i know better than you Roman numerals.... Sure you are amereican...This is easily taken as saying because someone is American they somehow know less than you even when you made the same error twice in a row and then turned around to claim it was a mistake, at the same time as making this comment.
Lets just stop that here though.
Anjou
01-26-2014, 11:10 PM
I mean I could be mean and say the only good things that came from Italy are Nutella and Pizza, but I don't want to go that low.
Kimjongil
01-27-2014, 01:05 AM
I mean I could be mean and say the only good things that came from Italy are Nutella and Pizza, but I don't want to go that low.
Many people think Pizza was invented in the USA. Others say China. better have a source for that.
Anjou
01-27-2014, 02:04 AM
The modern pizza came from Italy, though the concept of putting oils, sauces, herbs, and cheeses came from the Greeks. Nutella was invented as a substitute for peanut butter during one of the World Wars, using hazlenuts instead of peanuts.
Pandemon
01-28-2014, 01:47 AM
Lol guys! I don't know who inventend Pizza, maybe in Naples. About Nutella i don't like it, it's chemistry chocolate (peanuts around 6% like Heavy metal pouch drop rate lol) anyway stop fighting for a stupid mistake, my answer with "american" is a provoke like Puck comment. I know i write wrong, like aloth of my post, i have to improve my american/english... I know. Puck write
"Roman numerals. 3rd grade education ftw" What did he want to prove??? >.> Could comment something about vw instead of doing the funny guy masterly.
Come back to topic! Yesterday we farm Morta x30
3 heavy metal plates
2 Ritdross
1 riftcinder
anyone has any personal statistics on other vwnm?
Darwena
02-06-2014, 02:40 PM
Only Empyrean I have is Kanagi 85. I did Apademak until I found the next part is simply absurd... 1500 heavy metal plate is a big number. Worst is I don't know if it can be done with few ppl... Not many shout for VW nowadays and I definitely don't have 18 friends (slave) to do with me VW a million time for this...