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Kaeviathan
08-17-2013, 02:09 AM
Can some of these ammunition have their crafting level requirements lowered? These ammunitions are not made to make profit in most servers anyway. It would be great to make some of these ammunitions for personal usage. Also Synergy used to craft them isn't very appealing ><.

Here are some marketing result as of August 16, 2013 for Tulfaire Arrows

Only one stack sold:

Asura: Only one stack sold for 100k.

August 4, 2013


Bismarck: Only one stack sold for 100k.

August 3, 2013


Shiva: Only one stack sold for 300k.

July 10, 2013


None sold at the Auction House

Carbuncle


Cerberus (Server on where I play)


Fenrir


Lakshmi


Leviathan


Quetzalcoatl


Siren


Valefor


Servers with profits on Tulfaire Arrows

Bahamut: Stack sells for 500k.

(-200k for Gua. Lumber)


Odin: Stack sells for 200k.

(-120k for Gua. Lumber)

Only one adventurer (Lycorisw) contributes selling them to the market.


Sylph: Stacks sells for 250k.

(-180k for Gua. Lumber)

Only two adventurers (Airwolf & Tegs) contribute selling them to the market.


Others

Phoenix: Only 4 stacks have been sold for 300k.


Ragnarok: Only 7 stacks have been sold for 200k.


Only 4/16 (Including Ragnarok) servers make profits for selling Tulfaire Arrows. And 2/4 of those servers show sign of a monopolization in the market.

Louispv
08-17-2013, 02:30 AM
No one makes them because delve ammo is better, easier to get, and cheaper. Also RNG doesn't use ammo anymore, since htye all have 95% recycle with scavenge giving back the 5% that isn't saved. So only COR used bullets will ever be lost. So crafted ammo is dead entirely.

Kaeviathan
08-17-2013, 03:03 AM
No one makes them because delve ammo is better, easier to get, and cheaper. Also RNG doesn't use ammo anymore, since htye all have 95% recycle with scavenge giving back the 5% that isn't saved. So only COR used bullets will ever be lost. So crafted ammo is dead entirely.

Yes, that is true. But there aren't any Delve ammunitions for SAM. All the better why the crafting level for the Tulfaire Arrows should be more accessible.

Kristal
08-19-2013, 06:52 AM
It's not the crafting level of the arrows that needs to be lowered, it's the crafting level of the fletchings and arrowheads that's way too high. You need a lot of tulfaire feathers and chapuli horns to make a stack of fletchings/arrowheads, and the only source of those is the actual mobs (rather then reives rewards), so they rarely get sold on the AH. If they lower the level of the bonecraft and clothcraft recipes (or allow us to skill up all crafts to 100), we can make you your arrows ourselves.

Really, the whole crafting system needs to be revamped. It's completely in shambles. It's cheaper and faster to make a 99 RME then to get a craft to 110, and all you got to show for it is a tshirt with a logo on it (which you have to pay yourself to make, at that...)

Kaeviathan
08-19-2013, 10:41 AM
Not really, you just need X1 Chapuli Arrowhead, X1 Tulfaire Fletching, and a 1X Lumber to make a stack of Tulfaire Arrows. The biggest trouble is the synergy part. Oh synergy, i do hate you.

Kristal
08-19-2013, 05:12 PM
Synergy isn't the trouble at all. I got 80 synergy, 101 woodworking and 60 bonecraft, and can solo that recipe. Getting the materials is the problem, it's clothcrafters and bonecrafters not making the materials available.

Also, how do you monopolize a market when there's no supply, no demand, and not enough sales numbers across all servers to fill even a single page on AH?

Kaeviathan
08-19-2013, 09:24 PM
Oh, now I understand your point of view. For the arrows, I was able to farm the synthesis materials myself. Finding a bonecrafter to create the arrowheads is easy on my server, I have plenty of friends and a mule that can help me. Finding a Clothcrafter to make my fletchings proved a little difficulty, but finding a woodworker with synergy and bonecraft leveled was my issue.There aren't that many woodworkers with synergy leveled that are able to help me. And those that that do won't bother to help me, unless I offer a hefty reward of 50,000 or more (I also got charged for 7,900 to cover their expenses in making it for the first time ><).