View Full Version : Things you would like to see in Level 109 AF Armor
Ophannus
08-14-2013, 11:39 AM
In a JP post ealier, SE said they're going to be upgrading all AF1 for old jobs to Item Level 109 similar to RUN and GEO AF1. What stats would you like to see in the Drachen set? For me I'm not going to list base attributes; HP/MP because that stuff is irrelevant but I will list the +stats I would like to see:
Drachen Armet
Wyvern uses breaths more efficiently II
(Wyvern uses breaths at 66% instead of 50% when /mage and 50% when /Hybrid)
Jump: Enhances Double Attack Effect(+7%)
Smiting Breath Ability Delay-5s
Drachen Mail:
Wyvern: HP+12%
Enhances Spirit Link Effect(All this will do is double the amount of TP transfered from the wyvern. Normally if your wyvern has 30%TP and your Spirit Link, the Wyvern would lose 15 and give you 15. With this on, the wyvern would lose 15 but you would gain 30.)
Spirit Jump TP Bonus
Drachen Finger Gauntlets:
Wyvern: HP+10%
Restoring Breath Ability Delay-5s
Enhances Critical Hit Damage(+12%)
Drachen Brais
Augments Steady Wing Effect(Gives an extra 12% PDT to the Wyvern while Steady Wing's Stoneskin is active)
Augments Ancient Circle Effect(Gives you and everyone in range +15 Conserve TP for duration
Drachen Greaves:
Soul Jump TP Bonus
Call Wyvern Ability Delay-6m
I tried to focus on realistic stats they would add and not pipe dreams
Babekeke
08-14-2013, 06:32 PM
Realistically?
I doubt it will get much of an upgrade apart from level 109 stats and some haste.
Would be nice if they extended the feet to give 10% att bonus to ALL jumps.
Like you mentioned, a bonus to breaths on the head would also be nice.
Personally, I only use legs and head right now (legs only when /mage or fighting a dragon), so unless other pieces are going to replace pieces I currently use, I don't need more situational pieces cluttering my inv.
Umichi
08-14-2013, 09:36 PM
Mnd bumped to +20 lightning resist to 45 HP+70 plus WUBME II
Edit: HP+ was originally 64
Ophannus
08-30-2013, 12:18 AM
I'd really just like to see Ostreger Mitts and Wyvern Mail replaced for our Healing Breath sets. I'd like so see more pieces tailored specifically for enhancing Jump damage and TP gain. Perhaps a piece that give a large amount of Conserve TP and is best in slot for WS. Conserve TP is underrated but when it does proc it can sometimes save you a hit(when you save like 40-60 TP from a WS). Something like
Drachen Finger Gauntlets +2
DEF: 69
HP+35 STR+18 DEX+13 VIT+22 AGI+13 MND+10 INT+10 CHR+15
Accuracy+30 Wyvern HP+14% Wyvern Accuracy+30
"Conserve TP" +15 Haste+4%
"Jump: Double Attack+7%"
Umichi
08-30-2013, 12:33 AM
I like the conserve TP for hands but save the DA option for greaves. something I've been thinking about lately is some type of Angon ability +1 so if you have one merit into angon wearing this piece of gear would give you Angon with 2 merits instead of 1.
Helldemon
08-31-2013, 09:38 AM
I'd really just like to see Ostreger Mitts and Wyvern Mail replaced for our Healing Breath sets. I'd like so see more pieces tailored specifically for enhancing Jump damage and TP gain. Perhaps a piece that give a large amount of Conserve TP and is best in slot for WS. Conserve TP is underrated but when it does proc it can sometimes save you a hit(when you save like 40-60 TP from a WS). Something like
Drachen Finger Gauntlets +2
DEF: 69
HP+35 STR+18 DEX+13 VIT+22 AGI+13 MND+10 INT+10 CHR+15
Accuracy+30 Wyvern HP+14% Wyvern Accuracy+30
"Conserve TP" +15 Haste+4%
"Jump: Double Attack+7%"
Conserve TP only saves between 1-20 tp so it very rarely saves you a hit. Almost never if you are /sam and have a 5 hit. They should have based it on delay and allowed it to get anywhere from half your normal tp from a hit to up to 2-3 hits worth then it might actually be worth something.
Martel
08-31-2013, 03:27 PM
Drachen Finger Gauntlets:
Wyvern: HP+10%
Restoring Breath Ability Delay-5s
Enhances Critical Hit Damage(+12%)Mmmm, Drakesbane crack. I await the return of Ryunohige!
Would be nice if they extended the feet to give 10% att bonus to ALL jumps.The last thing spirit and soul jump need is more atk bonuses.
Spirit and soul jump already have a +25% and +50% atk bonuses, respectively(with wyvern present.) On the few mobs you don't already cap atk on with those bonuses, +10% atk would do very little in terms of overall DPS. And for spirit jump, Lancer's feet's Jump TP bonus would stomp all over the ATK+.
The things to focus on with jumps, would be TP gain enhancments. STP, multi-hit, or Jump TP bonus. Not ATK.
Actually, the single most amazing Jump enhancement we could get...
Jump Recast Delay-
Anything that would make you jump more often would be pretty much unbeatable. Although, knowing SE we'd get like, recast -1 second or something, if we got it at all.
Babekeke
08-31-2013, 05:38 PM
Mmmm, Drakesbane crack. I await the return of Ryunohige!
The last thing spirit and soul jump need is more atk bonuses.
Spirit and soul jump already have a +25% and +50% atk bonuses, respectively(with wyvern present.) On the few mobs you don't already cap atk on with those bonuses, +10% atk would do very little in terms of overall DPS. And for spirit jump, Lancer's feet's Jump TP bonus would stomp all over the ATK+.
The things to focus on with jumps, would be TP gain enhancments. STP, multi-hit, or Jump TP bonus. Not ATK.
Actually, the single most amazing Jump enhancement we could get...
Jump Recast Delay-
Anything that would make you jump more often would be pretty much unbeatable. Although, knowing SE we'd get like, recast -1 second or something, if we got it at all.
Wow, I can't believe that I didn't know about the att% + on those jumps o.0
I might need to look at my jump sets again now.
1 other amazing bonus for jumps that you missed was Crit Dmg+. getting 10% of that on feet instead of the att+ would be great to stack with the legs.
Martel
08-31-2013, 10:11 PM
I didn't miss it.
Huginn gambieras(crit dmg +10% feet) are unbeatable in terms of jump dmg. But per jump DMG is not the point. It's overall DPS. And improving ws frequency does more for that than making jumps hit harder. And any extra TP feeds into increased ws dmg. So going beyond the required stp needed for hit builds can still help.
There's are several feet atm that beat Huginn feet on jumps. Which makes me pretty sad, considering I dumped 300~ mil into crafting them(and I was the damn crafter... <,<; ) For spirit jump, it's once again lancer feet+2. 5 TP bonus is hard to beat. For soul jump: kariyeh(0.022 dps difference), mikinaak(R15 0.092 dps dif) or Cizin(DA+1:0.206 dps dif. DA+2:0.489 dps dif.) Note, DPS values will vary. These are using my current sets in one situation(and my FFXIAH sets are out of date.)
Also, Huginn are a hell to get. Ormolu ingots are 15 mil a piece on my server. And the synth for the Hexed Gambieras takes 2 ingots. Then you need to HQ. Or you could use a higher DPS option for a few k bayld.
Of course, the dps differences here are tiny. You might opt to use Huginn anyway, for fun and E-peen jump dmg. But I went with the highest DPS option, and got some inv space back. The inv being the greater draw, honestly. lol. I'll start carrying my Huginn again when Ryunohige gets updated. Huginn are still by far the best drakesbane feet.
Babekeke
09-01-2013, 05:07 PM
I guess it depends on what you're dropping from other slots to put the STP in there if you go for Huginn over the other options. And I'm not sure if I'm understanding ewxactly what you mean by "Any extra TP feeds into extra WS damage".
If you mean that a 105%TP Stardiver will do more extra damage than a Soul Jump with 10% extra crit damage, then I'll be highly skeptical. The only way I'd see it helping is being able to drop some STP gear from your jump to add more DA/TA/QA instead.
Umichi
09-01-2013, 11:40 PM
Shhhhhh Martel your giving away secrets!
Numquam
09-02-2013, 01:41 AM
I want my BLM AF1 to be upgraded to look cooler.
Umichi
09-02-2013, 02:01 AM
I want my BLM AF1 to be upgraded to look cooler.
Indeed I heard the weather is quite fine in the sanctuary of zi'tah as of late.
Ophannus
12-10-2013, 12:39 AM
Vishap. I am disappoint.
Elphy
12-10-2013, 05:29 AM
The removal of the silly ilvl system
Umichi
12-10-2013, 07:08 PM
Vishap. I am disappoint.
for someone that im sure has acess to anything he wants I'm sure it does. I personally plan on fulltiming chestpiece and maybe helmet.. IDK about helmet though since I'm halfway through upgrading miki
Helldemon
12-11-2013, 03:39 AM
Apparently the +1 body and hands have jump tp bonus 35 and 30 lol.
Ophannus
12-13-2013, 12:34 PM
Probably gives 3.0/3.5 tp.
Ophannus
12-16-2013, 03:25 PM
I always wondered what the logic was behind "Enhances Spirit Link" on Drachen Armet+1/Vishap Armet. For years we knew it was Spirit Link +12, but when the ability heals 700-2000+ HP to the Wyvern, what's the point of the +12. It would make sense if it was like +12% but 12 is less than 1% potency. I wonder if this was a glitch or if it was intentional. Knowing SE's stance on Jump and High Jump and Elemental Breath Accuracy/Damage, I wouldn't doubt it. +12 HP on to Spirit Link is rather ridiculous though. Imagine a piece of gear for WHM that had: Cure+3, not even +3%, just +3, where it added just 3 HP to your Cures? That's basically how weak and pointless it is. Granted there's no other "Enhances Spirit Link" pieces in competition for the head slot, but still. I know it's a silly complaint because Spirit Link is a veritable full cure for the wyvern anyway but that +12 HP cure to Spirit Link from the Armet always bugged me...
Maybe the +12 could be changed so that it's +12 to Spirit Link's regen effect instead of its healing aspect. Or maybe convert 12% of the amount healed into Stoneskin(like WHM's Afflatus)
Kimjongil
12-16-2013, 03:32 PM
I wanted +12% movement speed added on SCh RDM and BLM jobs like geo. Then herman gaiters would be useless.
Ophannus
12-22-2013, 06:45 PM
Vishap's Mail +1 says "Jump TP Bonus +35" but when tested in battle it gives +3.5 TP. The same goes for Vishap Finger Gauntlets and it's supposed +30 TP which actually gives +3 TP.
Misled by SE again, just like when they said on their update notes that Fly High was a 45sec duration but turned out to be a 30sec duration.