Gratification to Matsui

[Daemon]

Well I've had my share of rants, complaints, disappointments, anger, concerns of being an unhappy fan.

But my point of view has now been changed after seeing so many good things brought back to life and although the game is still constantly being revised in his vision.

I'd like to personally say thank you Matsui and the rest of the DEV TEAM for giving us attention. Thank you Community reps for responding when you can to all of us.

I once said "Prove us through updates that you are listening to us and show us your words rather than tell us promises that you can't keep."

The past 2 updates for July, August has shown a lot of work and these new items from Wildskeeper Reives, Delve, Skirmish (coming soon), content such as Mog Garden, Monstrosity, new maps, Quests, AF for Geo & Run being constantly implemented has shown me a reason to be grateful and thankful.

So I just wanted to say I appreciate what you are doing. Keep up the good work because each update you implement further tells us more about how our concerns are being addressed.

[Bamph]

Well I've had my share of rants, complaints, disappointments, anger, concerns of being an unhappy fan.

But my point of view has now been changed after seeing so many good things brought back to life and although the game is still constantly being revised in his vision.

I'd like to personally say thank you Matsui and the rest of the DEV TEAM for giving us attention. Thank you Community reps for responding when you can to all of us.

I once said "Prove us through updates that you are listening to us and show us your words rather than tell us promises that you can't keep."

The past 2 updates for July, August has shown a lot of work and these new items from Wildskeeper Reives, Delve, Skirmish (coming soon), content such as Mog Garden, Monstrosity, new maps, Quests, AF for Geo & Run being constantly implemented has shown me a reason to be grateful and thankful.

So I just wanted to say I appreciate what you are doing. Keep up the good work because each update you implement further tells us more about how our concerns are being addressed.

I'm going to add in the Mog Garden features:

Getting pop items for sky, sea, and the past are what I've gotten so far. I've heard that some people are getting ZNM pops as well.

I GREW AN EARTH ELEMENTAL! It gave me it's scroll! That's amazing!

I'm really looking forward to see what they do next, (and what they add, be it new weapons, spells, abilities, traits, etc...)

[Daemon]

I'm going to add in the Mog Garden features:

Getting pop items for sky, sea, and the past are what I've gotten so far. I've heard that some people are getting ZNM pops as well.

I GREW AN EARTH ELEMENTAL! It gave me it's scroll! That's amazing!

I'm really looking forward to see what they do next, (and what they add, be it new weapons, spells, abilities, traits, etc...)

I'm looking foward to the new Skirmish and AF!!!

[Mnejing]

That doesn't excuse the recent Vana'fest TV 2013 exlusive event to JP audiences, that we weren't even notified about...

Kinda hurt by that, but more updates to Monstrosity might make us feel better.

[Daemon]

That doesn't excuse the recent Vana'fest TV 2013 exlusive event to JP audiences, that we weren't even notified about...

Kinda hurt by that, but more updates to Monstrosity might make us feel better.

Yeah but that's common with everything in the world. Look at IPhone. Asia didnt get it till way later after USA. Since FFXI was made in Japan, i don't see it being easy for them to hold events outside of the country. Cost of advertisements, Ect.

[Demon6324236]

Yeah but that's common with everything in the world. Look at IPhone. Asia didnt get it till way later after USA. Since FFXI was made in Japan, i don't see it being easy for them to hold events outside of the country. Cost of advertisements, Ect.We have community reps, at Vanafest we get a basic 'wrap-up' of what was talked about from these reps, thus, we are relayed the information. In this case, we were not told of the event, we have no reps giving us the 'low down' or anything of the sort, we simply have no information what so ever. Instead, we had to find it on Youtube, where are Reps posting this information on the forums? No where? Oh look, still no information. SE is a horrible company when it comes to other countries, I mean we miss out on every revised version of their games it seems, like Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy Internationals, and now, on their MMO they can not even tell us what they are adding while they tell their JP players.

People wonder why some people are racist against JP players in game, make up things like the JP button, or think SE tells them things and not us, while some of it like the JP button is a joke, other things like them being told things we aren't, that's not really false. We see it here, so far as I know they were told about /fuming in VW before we were, and I believe they have been told some effects of things like Skill Up Foods and such while we weren't. I cant say for sure, but I know they are told some things which were never told about, so really when you think about it, maybe it makes sense why some people hate JP players, why some people think only their posts matter while ours are ignored. I mean after all, its like were the ignored kid in the family, sure, they do what seems needed for us to stay content tell us some things, but the JP players are the spoiled kid who gets all of the true attention.

[OmnysValefor]

I agree with everything you said Demon except I don't hate jp players. I don't actually know anyone who does. The hate seems to come from the other side. Most NAs, in the years I've played, on Valefor/Kujata servers try to use things like auto-translate and take (positive) advantage of the international community.

[Demon6324236]

I agree with everything you said Demon except I don't hate jp players. I don't actually know anyone who does. The hate seems to come from the other side. Most NAs, in the years I've played, on Valefor/Kujata servers try to use things like auto-translate and take (positive) advantage of the international community.I know some who do, some who don't, I personally have no problem with anyone from any country before getting to know them, I hate the language barrier, and might get annoyed at having to deal with it, but I can not say I truly am annoyed at the person who is being blocked by the same issue with me.

At the same time, I hate many JP companies who treat other countries like crap by compare, such as how SE often seems in cases such as these, or companies like Sega, who with Phantasy Star Universe left the non-JP servers about 6 months to a year behind in content at all times. Don't get me wrong, some other companies are cool, I mean like Level 5, they released Rogue Galaxy with its 'international' content in the US while rereleasing it in Japan, which was awesome, no one got excluded.

But in either case, the point is, I don't just look at people based on country, but when you see things like this sometimes, if you know people who are like that, it can somewhat help to see their point. I do not hate JP players, but at the same time, can I feel as though they are treated better than I am? Sure, just like in my previous example, just because your not the kid who gets all of the attention and is spoiled all of the time, but rather ignored, it does not mean you hate your brother/sister. In the end, I was just trying to say with that comment in particular that its times like these that I can somewhat understand where those kind of people are coming from more often than not, because its times like these we really do feel ignored. To tell JP players about new things coming up and such but say nothing to us, to leave us clueless that the event even transpired in the first place, that is very, very wrong...

[Bamph]

Welcome to the Forums... Where a positive post can turn negative before the post is posted.

Now for our next game, we'll be using everyone! Scenes from a hat!
First topic:
Uses for your mini-crab in the Mog Garden.


*steps up*

WE CAN BUY A SECOND ONE!?!?! Inviting a friend to have a crab race!

[OmnysValefor]

Ahmigod, Discussion in Forums?

[Mnejing]

Welcome to the Forums... Where a positive post can turn negative before the post is posted.
Clearly, you must be new here.

[Daemon]

I agree with everything you said Demon except I don't hate jp players. I don't actually know anyone who does. The hate seems to come from the other side. Most NAs, in the years I've played, on Valefor/Kujata servers try to use things like auto-translate and take (positive) advantage of the international community.

I love all of my JP LS friends and would do anything for them. They have been most awesome to me. Japan is also a beautiful place. If I could live there I would in a heartbeat. It was the best vacation of my life.

[Bamph]

Clearly, you must be new here.

No, I'm not, I'm just tired of people hijacking the 1% of threads that are "good job," and "keep up the good work," and seeing them turn negative when the other 99% of threads are people upset with something. Now that I think of it, it would probably be more like 5% positive, 30% here's an idea, and 65% negative comment threads if everyone wasn't so bitter.

[Lotto]

Thanks a lot for the Vanafest 2013, that was great, especially the english part.

[Rwolf]

I'm all for commending someone on a good job if that's how someone feels, however this is a public forum. To expect everyone to have the same view and opinion is ridiculous. I can see derailing a thread to another topic, but creating any topic on a public forum, you're bound to have someone disagree with you.

If you want to praise the developers and producer without comments, write a letter to them or make an article or video that can't be commented on. If you post something publicly, someone is going to comment on it. Whether you agree with it or not. The point here is to have discussions and provide feedback. Not to provide a dichotomy between agree with me threads and not. Not flaming anyone, but providing some grounding with an outside perspective.

[OmnysValefor]

You can hate it, but to be honest--

Commending him on a job well done when an absurdly large portion of the community doesn't feel that way is begging for us to reply with our thoughts.

At least now, when SE reads your OP, maybe they'll actually read some of the dissent, since they stay away from so many topics clearly labeled as such.

Whether they're doing a good job or not, they're doing so much of it without our feedback and contrary to what we've come to expect (as the value of gear). Games can change, but changing a fundamental aspect is stupid. It's like saying "Ok, were taking out the board in monopoly, and putting in cards, but it's still Monopoly".

Have you ever wondered why they don't publicly poll us? Especially in-game, since not everyone visits forums? I don't.

[CrystalWeapon]

You can hate it, but to be honest--

Commending him on a job well done when an absurdly large portion of the community doesn't feel that way is begging for us to reply with our thoughts.

At least now, when SE reads your OP, maybe they'll actually read some of the dissent, since they stay away from so many topics clearly labeled as such.

Whether they're doing a good job or not, they're doing so much of it without our feedback and contrary to what we've come to expect (as the value of gear). Games can change, but changing a fundamental aspect is stupid. It's like saying "Ok, were taking out the board in monopoly, and putting in cards, but it's still Monopoly".

Have you ever wondered why they don't publicly poll us? Especially in-game, since not everyone visits forums? I don't.

I think the reps just have their hands full at the moment. From what I see it's less than a handful of people translating for three different forums.

They really should do some polls like they did for early xiv. It would at least give them some insight to how a majority of the players feel rather than just listening to the people that actually log onto the forums.

It's got to be easier to get information from than the usual "tell us how you feel about ____ " threads.

[Limecat]

After seeing the topic title, I'm a bit disappointed that this isn't a thread about a crazy international plan to hire him a hooker for his birthday.

[OmnysValefor]

I think the reps just have their hands full at the moment. From what I see it's less than a handful of people translating for three different forums.

They really should do some polls like they did for early xiv. It would at least give them some insight to how a majority of the players feel rather than just listening to the people that actually log onto the forums.

It's got to be easier to get information from than the usual "tell us how you feel about ____ " threads.

I agree. I just think that currently, they can hide behind the banners of "only a small portion participate on forums", and "content players have no reason to complain". So poll us, right in the PoL viewer. Make the reward some vanity thing, or something useful to leveling or transportation (though both are easy). Hell, make the reward a free mule slot and people would participate.

Ask us what we really think about the game, because what I see here is a bunch of people talking about discontent among their friends, because atm most players are doing 3 things. They're trying to kill Tojil, waiting to kill Tojil, or killing Tojil.

[CrystalWeapon]

I agree. I just think that currently, they can hide behind the banners of "only a small portion participate on forums", and "content players have no reason to complain". So poll us, right in the PoL viewer. Make the reward some vanity thing, or something useful to leveling or transportation (though both are easy). Hell, make the reward a free mule slot and people would participate.

Ask us what we really think about the game, because what I see here is a bunch of people talking about discontent among their friends, because atm most players are doing 3 things. They're trying to kill Tojil, waiting to kill Tojil, or killing Tojil.

Even if they did poll us, I think a big part of the problem is the size of the current team. It's obvious that they don't have the manpower that they should have. As a supporter of both xi and xiv, it makes me sad. Yes, xi is a very old game, but it deserves a hell of a lot more than what it's receiving in terms of funding and manpower.

Despite its age, I still believe this game has way more potential than what it's given credit for.

[Daemon]

I only said thank you for the last 2 updates O_o. What does Vanafest 2013 complaints have anything to do with thanking him, the DEV Team and reps doing a good job for those updates?

[OmnysValefor]

Let me put that in perspective.

"I only said thank you for things [they've recently done], what does their recent exclusion of a major share of their players have to do with thanking them."

Because, you are forever the optimist, or a troll. You're trying to hard to paint everything as if its wonderful, and I don't know if you see it but you're severely in the minority. (edit, lol, said majority)

We're not better players than you because of this, but you'll also note that a lot of us have a lot more experience with recent content than you do. I love to ride the roller coaster at six flags, but I'd be complaining if they closed down every other ride. I'd have harsh words for the guy saying "But guys, calm down, I rode the roller coaster once, and it was so much fun."

(Yeah yeah, I know, past events aren't closed, but there's little point in doing them.)

[Daemon]

Let me put that in perspective.

"I only said thank you for things [they've recently done], what does their recent exclusion of a major share of their players have to do with thanking them."

Because, you are forever the optimist, or a troll. You're trying to hard to paint everything as if its wonderful, and I don't know if you see it but you're severely in the minority. (edit, lol, said majority)

We're not better players than you because of this, but you'll also note that a lot of us have a lot more experience with recent content than you do. I love to ride the roller coaster at six flags, but I'd be complaining if they closed down every other ride. I'd have harsh words for the guy saying "But guys, calm down, I rode the roller coaster once, and it was so much fun."

(Yeah yeah, I know, past events aren't closed, but there's little point in doing them.)

Yeah forums, people love to step in and judge others. The more negative you are the more likes you get. Because its better to trash people, complain, and never look on the bright side of things.

And last 2 months he did do a Great job. This post has nothing to do with Vanafest or anything else.

Your post made me lose respect for you.

[Bamph]

Let me put that in perspective.

"I only said thank you for things [they've recently done], what does their recent exclusion of a major share of their players have to do with thanking them."

Because, you are forever the optimist, or a troll. You're trying to hard to paint everything as if its wonderful, and I don't know if you see it but you're severely in the minority. (edit, lol, said majority)

We're not better players than you because of this, but you'll also note that a lot of us have a lot more experience with recent content than you do. I love to ride the roller coaster at six flags, but I'd be complaining if they closed down every other ride. I'd have harsh words for the guy saying "But guys, calm down, I rode the roller coaster once, and it was so much fun."

(Yeah yeah, I know, past events aren't closed, but there's little point in doing them.)

This boils down to *you* saying to all the new people:

Ya guys, I totally did all the content before SoA came out... It was AWESOME! Too bad for you since you shouldn't (can't) do it because no one does.

[OmnysValefor]

This boils down to *you* saying to all the new people:

Ya guys, I totally did all the content before SoA came out... It was AWESOME! Too bad for you since you shouldn't (can't) do it because no one does.

I'm glad you know me and no that I have no interest in several VW fights, nor Odin II, nor old salvage, and new.

Oh wait, I do.

[Daemon]

I'm glad you know me and no that I have no interest in several VW fights, nor Odin II, nor old salvage, and new.

Oh wait, I do.

Open your eyes. I don't see SoA the same as VW, Odin, Salvage. I see a new direction much easier than previous content. No resist on mobs yay enfeebling actually works. No more endless quests and missions. No daily time restrictions on events. No more camping endless hours for bosses, no more competing with others to fight a boss...

To me that's improvement.

Need I say more? Seriously you are only proving that nothing is good enough and you will never be satisfied.

There were people who max upgraded to 15 in less than 2 week on Delve gears. Much more easier than REM trials.

[OmnysValefor]

That reply wasn't directed at you, which should have been clear.

[detlef]

Have we already forgotten how item levels came out of nowhere and are very recent? How can you even judge whether Matsui is doing a good job when the jury is out on item levels, Wildskeeper Reives are a bust, no RME upgrade are on the horizon, and situation with enmity is pretty much the same as it was pre-Adoulin?

I will say that Delve is an excellent event, and I have high praise for whoever came up with that. It is what Legion could have been.

[Daemon]

That reply wasn't directed at you, which should have been clear.

I may not be on the game 24/7 to know more than you and have more experience than you but it doesn't take a phd to know a rollercoaster ride is technically the same.. a rollercoaster.

Oh wait.. It does.

[Daemon]

Have we already forgotten how item levels came out of nowhere and are very recent? How can you even judge whether Matsui is doing a good job when the jury is out on item levels, Wildskeeper Reives are a bust, no RME upgrade are on the horizon, and situation with enmity is pretty much the same as it was pre-Adoulin?

I will say that Delve is an excellent event, and I have high praise for whoever came up with that. It is what Legion could have been.

Last 2 updates should have shown you that the man was very busy. I just don't understand how hard it is to see that? Can't build a nation in 1 day, 1 week, 1 month... And 2 months these updates tell the story pretty clearly.

This should also tell you they are still busy.
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/117476-Vana-fest-TV-2013-%28aka-that-secret-JP-video%29

[Daemon]

Copied from http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/117476-Vana-fest-TV-2013-%28aka-that-secret-JP-video%29
Skirmish gear example augments - stuff is item level 113.

Remember, the old Skirmish augmentation process was random within a pool, and we already know there are 3 tiers of new augment stones, so these are probably just mid to high-range sample results, not necessarily the best (or worst) possible results, and not necessarily the only possible augments (although PDT is obviously guaranteed on everything).

Otronif Mask
Base: DEF:84 HP+24 STR+16 DEX+16 VIT+18 AGI+18 INT+17 MND+17 CHR+17 Evasion+26 Magic Evasion+34 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 "Store TP"+5 Haste+7%
Augs: Accuracy+5 Physical Damage Taken-4%

Otronif Harness
Base: DEF:106 HP+40 STR+20 DEX+21 VIT+18 AGI+21 INT+20 MND+20 CHR+20 Accuracy+10 Evasion+35 Magic Evasion+43 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Haste+4% "Counter"+3
Augs: Attack+6 Physical Damage Taken -3%

Otronif Gloves
Base: DEF:74 HP+22 STR+8 DEX+27 VIT+22 AGI+5 INT+8 MND+22 CHR+13 Accuracy+8 Evasion+15 Magic Evasion+21 "Store TP"+7 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+4%
Augs: Double Attack +1 Physical Damage Taken -3%

Otronif Brais
Base: DEF:92 HP+32 STR+25 VIT+11 AGI+17 INT+25 MND+14 CHR+8 Attack+10 Evasion+22 Magic Evasion+52 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 "Store TP"+6 Haste+6%
Augs: Attack+10 Physical Damage Taken-4%

Otronif Boots
DEF:59 HP+20 STR+11 DEX+12 VIT+9 AGI+27 MND+10 CHR+23 Attack+5 Evasion+47 Magic Evasion+52 "Store TP"+7 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+4%
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-4% Critical Hit Rate+1%



Cizin Helm
Base: DEF:94 HP+28 MP+21 STR+21 DEX+16 VIT+21 AGI+16 INT+15 MND+15 CHR+15 Evasion+22 Magic Evasion+26 "Magic Def. Bonus"+1 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect Enmity+5 Haste+7%
Augs: Accuracy+7 Physical Damage Taken-3%

Cizin Mail
Base: DEF:118 HP+43 MP+31 STR+25 DEX+17 VIT+25 AGI+17 INT+17 MND+17 CHR+17 Accuracy+10 Evasion+28 Magic Evasion+39 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Haste+3%
Augs: Double Attack+2 Physical Damage Taken-3%

Cizin Mufflers
Base: DEF:84 HP+20 STR+8 DEX+23 VIT+26 INT+7 MND+20 CHR+15 Attack+8 Evasion+15 Magic Evasion+21 "Store TP"+5 Enmity+3 Haste+3%
Augs: Double Attack+1 Physical Damage Taken-3%

Cizin Breeches
Base: DEF:103 HP+35 STR+28 VIT+17 AGI+13 INT+20 MND+10 CHR+8 Attack+10 Evasion+15 Magic Evasion+52 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 "Double Attack"+2% Haste+5%
Augs: Attack+9 Physical Damage Taken-4%

Cizin Greaves
Base: DEF:69 HP+12 STR+13 DEX+10 VIT+14 AGI+23 MND+8 CHR+21 Accuracy+8 Evasion+33 Magic Evasion+52 Haste+4% "Magic Def. Bonus"+1 Jump: "Double Attack"+3%
Augs: Double Attack+1 Physical Damage Taken-4%



Gendewitha Caubeen
Base: DEF:79 HP+24 MP+29 STR+16 DEX+16 VIT+16 AGI+16 INT+20 MND+20 CHR+20 Evasion+24 Magic Evasion+60 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 "Cure Potency"+10% Enmity-8 Haste+5%
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-3% Song casting time-3%

Gendewitha Bliaut
Base: DEF:103 HP+37 MP+53 STR+19 DEX+19 VIT+19 AGI+19 INT+25 MND+25 CHR+25 Evasion+28 Magic Evasion+65 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 "Cure" potency +8 Adds "Refresh" effect
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-4% Cure spellcasting time-3%

Gendewitha Gages
Base: DEF:69 HP+23 MP+21 STR+5 DEX+22 VIT+20 AGI+4 INT+15 MND+26 CHR+15 Acc.+15 Mag. Acc.+15 Eva.+15 Mag. Eva.+30 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-3% Song Recast Delay-2

Gendewitha Spats
Base: DEF:89 HP+29 MP+26 STR+20 VIT+10 AGI+14 INT+27 MND+19 CHR+15 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+8 Evasion+18 Magic Evasion+86 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Song casting time -5% Haste+4%
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-4% Song casting time-3%

Gendewitha Galoshes
Base: DEF:54 HP+22 MP+26 STR+8 DEX+9 VIT+8 AGI+26 INT+14 MND+15 CHR+27 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+8 Evasion+37 Magic Evasion+86 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Enhances "Cursna" effect Haste+3%
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-4% Cure Potency+5%




Hagondes Hat
Base: DEF:78 HP+24 MP+29 STR+15 DEX+15 VIT+15 AGI+15 INT+19 MND+19 CHR+19 Evasion+24 Magic Evasion+60 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+13 Haste+5%
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-4% Pet: Magic Attack Bonus+21

Hagondes Coat
Base: DEF:102 HP+37 MP+53 STR+17 DEX+17 VIT+17 AGI+17 INT+28 MND+23 CHR+23 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+10 Evasion +28 Magic Evasion+65 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Haste+3% Adds "Refresh" effect
Augs: Magic Accuracy+25 Physical Damage Taken-3%

Hagondes Cuffs
Base: DEF:68 HP+23 MP+21 STR+5 DEX+22 VIT+20 AGI+4 INT+15 MND+26 CHR+15 Magic Accuracy+20 Evasion+15 Magic Evasion+30 Enmity-8 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+3%
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-3% Pet: Attack+14 Ranged Attack+14

Hagondes Pants
Base: DEF:88 HP+29 MP+26 STR+20 VIT+10 AGI+14 INT+27 MND+19 CHR+15 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+25 Magic Damage+10 Evasion+18 Magic Evasion+86 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Haste+4%
Augs: Physical Damage Taken-4% Enmity-5

Hagondes Sabots
Base: DEF:53 HP+19 MP+23 STR+8 DEX+9 VIT+8 AGI+26 INT+14 MND+15 CHR+27 Evasion+37 Magic Evasion+86 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Haste+3% Avatar: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+25
Augs: Fast Cast+2 Physical Damage Taken-3%




Iuitl Headgear
Base: DEF:82 HP+24 MP+21 STR+17 DEX+20 VIT+17 AGI+20 INT+17 MND+17 CHR+18 Evasion+30 Magic Evasion+43 "Magic Def. Bonus"+1 "Triple Attack"+2% Haste+7%
Augs: Accuracy+4 Physical Damage Taken-2%

Iuitl Vest
Base: DEF:108 HP+40 MP+39 STR+19 DEX+23 VIT+19 AGI+22 INT+18 MND+18 CHR+18 Accuracy+10 Ranged Accuracy+10 Evasion+33 Magic Evasion+52 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 "Subtle Blow"+8 Haste+4%
Augs: Accuracy+7 Physical Damage Taken-4%

Iuitl Wristbands
Base: DEF:72 HP+17 STR+9 DEX+28 VIT+25 AGI+14 INT+10 MND+24 CHR+14 Accuracy+8 Ranged Accuracy+8 Evasion+16 Magic Evasion+30 "Magic. Def. Bonus"+1 Enh. "Snapshot" ef. Enmity-6 Haste+4%
Augs: Ranged Accuracy+9 Physical Damage Taken-4%

Iuitl Tights
Base: DEF:94 HP+32 STR+23 VIT+13 AGI+16 INT+24 MND+14 CHR+9 Mag. Acc.+10 "Mag. Atk. Bonus"+10 Evasion+36 Magic Evasion+56 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 "Store TP"+5 Haste+6%
Augs: Ranged Attack+4 Physical Damage Taken-2%

Iuitl Gaiters
Base: DEF:57 HP+9 STR+10 DEX+19 VIT+10 AGI+29 MND+10 CHR+24 Attack+10 Ranged Attack+10 Magic Accuracy+15 Evasion+48 Magic Evasion+56 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Haste+4%
Augs: Recycle+1 Physical Damage Taken-3%



Beatific Shield
Base: DEF:45 HP+15 MP+26 Shield skill +72 Increases chance of successful block Magic damage taken -25%
Augs: Shield Mastery +1 Physical Damage Taken-4%

[OmnysValefor]

I was pretty happy with the game pre-adoulin. Me and my friends rebuilt my PLD. We had fun, we were doing plenty of things.

We were doing Limbus farming, Voidwatch, Dynamis farming, Neo-Limbus, Salvage, Salvage II, random stupid things in abyssea. We were building empies. We were having fun. I built an aegis and then made Pankorator chainspell me just because I could. I built an Ochain just to make certain things easier (Ochain v. Bukhis).

You assume that because I'm smart enough to see that there's no point in doing most/any of that stuff now that I wanted it to go away. You assume I don't like helping people. You assume way too much.

[Daemon]

I don't assume anything but content will always evolve. Which is SoA now. He said he will fill in the gaps and correct REM. I just don't expect DEV Team to be robots. Between sleep hours and work, coding is not easy but I can see they aren't just sitting under the AC drinking Starbucks doing nothing.

Even if they put in 100 hours a week, 2 updates shows how much work they did.

[detlef]

Thanks for posting those sets and stats, those are what I was referring to in the other thread when you suggested a trade-in system for abjurations. Many of these pieces look like they will provide a good mix of pdt and def that trumps a lot of our existing options.

Now, with that said. If the man is busy, that's fine. I believe that he is doing what he believes is best for the game. But regardless, everything he puts out will be judged, especially if he is taking the game in a brand new direction. You will have to forgive the people who played FFXI for 10 years, because the current game is not the same FFXI anymore.

If we hate it, we'll let him know. And by that I mean we'll let each other know and hope that the JPs are complaining about the same thing.

[Daemon]

Thanks for posting those sets and stats, those are what I was referring to in the other thread when you suggested a trade-in system for abjurations. Many of these pieces look like they will provide a good mix of pdt and def that trumps a lot of our existing options.

Now, with that said. If the man is busy, that's fine. I believe that he is doing what he believes is best for the game. But regardless, everything he puts out will be judged, especially if he is taking the game in a brand new direction. You will have to forgive the people who played FFXI for 10 years, because the current game is not the same FFXI anymore.

If we hate it, we'll let him know. And by that I mean we'll let each other know and hope that the JPs are complaining about the same thing.

Well I've only been playing since day 1 but I guess I'm not experienced enough to make opinions.

[detlef]

You said it not me.

[Daemon]

You said it not me.
Actually he did.

We're not better players than you because of this, but you'll also note that a lot of us have a lot more experience with recent content than you do.

I've only taken 2 weeks off. But I guess 2 weeks is a lot of experience to miss out on.

[Lotto]

Last 2 updates should have shown you that the man was very busy. I just don't understand how hard it is to see that? Can't build a nation in 1 day, 1 week, 1 month... And 2 months these updates tell the story pretty clearly.

This should also tell you they are still busy.
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/117476-Vana-fest-TV-2013-%28aka-that-secret-JP-video%29

Except that in a right mind you try to fix what's broken/what needs to be fixed before releasing new things. Enmity doesn't work? No problem, here's some new battlefields. Fixing RMEs? Let's release even more powerful weapons first.

That's not what I call doing your job right and I don't want to look on the bright side because when less than 1000 people are online it means that only a few people thing there's one.

[Daemon]

Except that in a right mind you try to fix what's broken/what needs to be fixed before releasing new things. Enmity doesn't work? No problem, here's some new battlefields. Fixing RMEs? Let's release even more powerful weapons first.

That's not what I call doing your job right and I don't want to look on the bright side because when less than 1000 people are online it means that only a few people thing there's one.

Uh Skirmish was broken because people had a reason to skip it, I think he's trying to fix it why else the new gear?

He already said he was going to fix REM. hopefully before Christmas would be nice.

New expansion needs to be a success, not old content that's been around years. And SoA was failing but now its getting better. If I was a DEV id do the same.

Failing the new expansion would make FFXI fail. Everyone did pay for it and if it became a failure a huge portion of the community would have rage quit because of it.

Disappointment on top of REM would have made it a done deal.

[OmnysValefor]

Actually he did.

You did, when you said you talked about your WK experience.

And that wasn't an attack on you, you just honestly seem to have less experience with the recent content than a lot of the people you're vehemently arguing with.

I've only played XI since 2007, with 2 breaks totally about 2 years. If you wanna talk about old endgame and old mechanics, I can't even begin to fairly represent anything. What I'm talking about is what your OP is praising: current content. And, currently, all they seem to want us to be doing is delve, wk, and skirmish, no matter the objections.

[Daemon]

You did, when you said you talked about your WK experience.

And that wasn't an attack on you, you just honestly seem to have less experience with the recent content than a lot of the people you're vehemently arguing with.

I've only played XI since 2007, with 2 breaks totally about 2 years. If you wanna talk about old endgame and old mechanics, I can't even begin to fairly represent anything. What I'm talking about is what your OP is praising: current content. And, currently, all they seem to want us to be doing is delve and skirmish, no matter the objections.

Praising for the work they did in the past 2 updates. Which 2 months ago I was disappointed just as everyone else. But through the last 2 updates shows improvement and how can anyone deny that is what I'm wondering??

Had there been no updates, no improvements I could be on the hate wagon too.

[detlef]

Actually he did.


I've only taken 2 weeks off. But I guess 2 weeks is a lot of experience to miss out on.Ha. You know, I probably said it too now that I think about it. He did say recent experience though, so whether you've been playing from day one really isn't relevant.

How much of Adoulin have you experienced? I feel like you'd tried a couple of Wildskeeper reives, done some Skirmish, and farmed some Delve. Have you tried to farm a JSE cape for yourself? Have you beaten any of the Delve mega bosses? I know you haven't done enough Wildskeeper to be completely frustrated with it yet. Have you kept up on your imprimaturs or done the GEO/RUN AF?

[Daemon]

Ha. You know, I probably said it too now that I think about it. He did say recent experience though, so whether you've been playing from day one really isn't relevant.

How much of Adoulin have you experienced? I feel like you'd tried a couple of Wildskeeper reives, done some Skirmish, and farmed some Delve. Have you tried to farm a JSE cape for yourself? Have you beaten any of the Delve mega bosses? I know you haven't done enough Wildskeeper to be completely frustrated with it yet. Have you kept up on your imprimaturs or done the GEO/RUN AF?

I've attempted Tojil, fought all other bosses. I've helped several do Taxet and other bosses to help others get Ki although I already have it. I've started Geo AF and read many comments how NM sucks. I don't have inventory space to hunt JSE capes right now. Yes I've done Hurkaan, seen others shouting in town how Yumcax HP dropped 4% in less than 3 minutes.

Point is in 11 years, adding new content is the same thing. Yeah they add a new boss, new conditions. Sure they added a new quest, but technically they all come to the same conclusion, conditions, difficulty, time, reward for completing the objective.

Which doesn't take higher education to know that.

New expansion comes with new bugs and eventually after SE lays down the base, then they always work on top of that making adjustments. I've seen it more times enough to know that waiting for them to work out the kinks before I complain will only save unnecessary headaches.

Complaints, and feedback are 2 different things.

How many times did they shift the people from 1 area to another? Or make adjustments to jobs to get people to play them until they nerf it? These don't look like mistakes to me. I see them as smart thinking.

Lets release scholar. Not many people play the job ok let's give embrava and Kaustra. After people hop on to it, we'll nerf it.

Details I see every time. Lets make RDM popular. Ok too many people play the job, lets nerf it. Ok now with new expansion we will bring these jobs back into the light.

The same conclusion every time. New content, lets make this area popular and give people a reason to play it. Lets make this quest in hopes to stall them 2 months while we work on the next project. Lets add this to give them a feeling of hope. Lets nerf this to take attention away from it.

Video game creation is all about adding and taking away. Shifting people to do one thing to another.

[detlef]

It makes it very difficult to reply to you when you keep editing your posts. Please try to get all your ideas in there before you hit post.

[Daemon]

To be more sophisticated in my explanation? WR require bald, Ki to purchase. Drop rate effects of how many items need to be in circulation. X amount of people play under these conditions. Casuals, undergeared will play the event X amount of hours vs Well geared players taking down boss in X amount of hours.

Conditions alter based on time of peak hour, X amount of players, type of player.

Time factor of obstacles. Reives in the way, farming Bayld. Overview of X amount of days, weeks months this event will last.

Conditions met when X amount of people have these gears Vs power of items will have effect on the overall ease of the current content.

[detlef]

I'm saying try to get it all in the first time before you hit post. It's no fun writing a response and then seeing that the original post to which I am responding has changed.

[Daemon]

I'm saying try to get it all in the first time before you hit post. It's no fun writing a response and then seeing that the original post to which I am responding has changed.

Well you have to give me a few minutes. Small screen on a cellphone.

[Daemon]

No matter how many people build a rollercoaster. Technically all of them will be a rollercoaster. Just different lengths, swirls, turns, and design.

But still its a rollercoaster...

A boss will be a boss
A quest will be a quest

Just different obstacles, conditions, length of time, difficulty, reward upon completion.

[Daemon]

See I can relate to video game programming because as a Remix producer. We lay down beats and bass down first. We go through different sounds and listen to thousands of instruments, FX.

These take time because sound is very complicated. Sometimes you get Ear Fatique where your ears will adjust to a sound over time so if you are listening to a bad sound, after awhile your ears will trick you into believing its a good sound. Therefore we constantly take breaks in between.

Add in melodies only to come back later and think the melody sucks. But we are constantly overlaying sounds, adjusting, tweaking, eqing, adding and taking things out of the arrangement.

Which is how I see DEV Team programming code. And doing projects. That's why I gave thanks for the last 2 updates. I know its not easy.

My work is visual and audio.

Their work is that on top of math, physics, algorithms, mechanics, etc.

[OmnysValefor]

No matter how many people build a rollercoaster. Technically all of them will be a rollercoaster. Just different lengths, swirls, turns, and design.

But still its a rollercoaster...

A boss will be a boss
A quest will be a quest

Just different obstacles, conditions, length of time, difficulty, reward upon completion.

I was wondering what you meant by your past roller coaster comment, and now I understand.

My analogy was in Six Flags taking all their other rides away. No matter much fun R/Cs might be, the Giant drop and the things that mess with gravity, as well as the the things that spin you around and around on a giant pendulum... they're quite fun.

I can relate to video game programming too. I have experience in large scale programming and understand the coordination and understand how quality projects usually rely on multiple people.

That being said, people still give them too much leeway, always using the same excuses and some of the glitches that arise are just... baffling. Other glitches that they offer no concern twards, like the near-untargetable-ness of reive targets.. Personally, if it were an application I were working on, such a widespread bug would never fly.

Ever.

[Daemon]

I was wondering what you meant by your past roller coaster comment, and now I understand.

My analogy was in Six Flags taking all their other rides away. No matter much fun R/Cs might be, the Giant drop and the things that mess with gravity, as well as the the things that spin you around and around on a giant pendulum... they're quite fun.

I can relate to video game programming too. I have experience in large scale programming and understand the coordination and understand how quality projects usually rely on multiple people.

That being said, people still give them too much leeway, always using the same excuses and some of the glitches that arise are just... baffling. Other glitches that they offer no concern twards, like the near-untargetable-ness of reive targets.. Personally, if it were an application I were working on, such a widespread bug would never fly.

Ever.

True but I'm sure if they had a bigger team, things would be much better. I just don't see them putting out more than they are doing right now.

Updates now before the recent ones shows better improvements from how I see it.

I just think they did enough work in 2 months. That's why I keep saying DEVs are not robots.

They cannot alter something without seeing the results of what they implemented first. That's why I think it takes time.

[Daemon]

Also they probably have other unreleased projects in the works behind the scene. Stuff we don't see but find out later like Skirmish. Which also shows they are constantly working. We just don't see it.

So that's why I can't make complaints like REM because that would be poking at someone who most likely has plans but cannot give anyone a definite word on it yet as it could cause conflicts if they need to change something later.

It's not about keeping us in the dark. But community reps can't rush Devs to tell them information on projects that are not done.

I'm also sure he will keep his word on REM upgrades. I mean almost 100,000 fans on the English site alone complained. He did say don't throw away REM and that he understands how much time people spent on these.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/33112-Level-99-Relic-Mythic-Empyrean-and-WoE-Weapons

To not carry out his word would only be a major disaster. It would only be common sense to follow through on this promise.

[Bamph]

I'm glad you know me and no that I have no interest in several VW fights, nor Odin II, nor old salvage, and new.

Oh wait, I do.

I didn't know you want to do all that old content like assaults, dynamis, city mission, old and new salvage, sky, sea, etc... If you do, then why go and announce that it's all dead to people? It makes you sound like you think it's dead and that it should stay dead. Pessimism brings negative thoughts, and those negative thoughts fester until you say something like "All the old stuff is dead so don't bother doing it."

[Daemon]

I didn't know you want to do all that old content like assaults, dynamis, city mission, old and new salvage, sky, sea, etc... If you do, then why go and announce that it's all dead to people? It makes you sound like you think it's dead and that it should stay dead. Pessimism brings negative thoughts, and those negative thoughts fester until you say something like "All the old stuff is dead so don't bother doing it."

Yeah I misunderstood too. I want both of you to know that a good portion of my ideas relate to old content. And how SE could give us interest to go back and do them.

Voidwatch and WR
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36543-NEW-RARE-Point-System

AF quests Limbus/Dyna/Abyssea
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36059-AF4

Sky/Ein/PW/VW
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36695-Abjuration-Exchange

I try to think of ideas that a good portion of the community can benefit from it.

Other comments I've made throughout other threads like allowing us to have restrictions removed off Nyzul, NNI, Salvage but doesn't look like that will become a reality.

Then there's the 2 guides I wrote with the intention of helping people.

Beginners Guide
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/35870-FFXI-Beginners-Guide

Guide for Returning players
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/35308-Revelations-Strategy-Guide-FFXI

So I do care. Just I try to look at all perspectives that can help everyone including new players just starting. But also from the POV of the Devs and the obstacles they face.

So yeah that's why I can be stubborn. Looking at things from all perspectives and not just a certain side.

[Bamph]

Yeah I misunderstood too. I want both of you to know that a good portion of my ideas relate to old content. And how SE could give us interest to go back and do them.

Voidwatch and WR
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36543-NEW-RARE-Point-System

AF quests Limbus/Dyna/Abyssea
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36059-AF4

Sky/Ein/PW/VW
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36695-Abjuration-Exchange

I try to think of ideas that a good portion of the community can benefit from it.

Other comments I've made throughout other threads like allowing us to have restrictions removed off Nyzul, NNI, Salvage but doesn't look like that will become a reality.

Then there's the 2 guides I wrote with the intention of helping people.

Beginners Guide
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/35870-FFXI-Beginners-Guide

Guide for Returning players
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/35308-Revelations-Strategy-Guide-FFXI

So I do care. Just I try to look at perspectives that can help everyone including new players just starting. But also from the POV of the Devs and the obstacles they face.

So yeah that's why I can be stubborn. Looking at things from all perspectives and not just a certain side.

I'm totally down with all the stuff... There was so much stuff to do when I first started a couple years ago, and the jobs I love to play (BLM and RNG) get 0 love whatsoever from the playerbase... It was all about trying to get quests and missions done. I play with my wife, but there was only so much we could do with only the 2 of us. Now that the level has been increased, and with all the Adoulin Gear, I'm finally able to get out and enjoy this game for the storyline. I don't want to be able to solo everything, but at least with the main storylines, I figured any well-balanced group of any jobs should be able to go through it and get it done.

I'm finding that SE is putting in little hints to go back to old content, like popsets in flotsam. I also know how much pressure they're under because of both games working at the same time. I hope that they can keep both of them afloat...

[Daemon]

I was wondering what you meant by your past roller coaster comment, and now I understand.

My analogy was in Six Flags taking all their other rides away. No matter much fun R/Cs might be, the Giant drop and the things that mess with gravity, as well as the the things that spin you around and around on a giant pendulum... they're quite fun.

As for this I understand and all I was saying is that not all rollcoasters have the same conditions, but technically it is a rollercoaster.

I just appreciate no more waiting 1 entire week real time staring at sand all day. Drinking coffee and redbull, popping caffeine pills and asking a friend to take turns watching to see if HMN popped lol.

No more 6 months to over a year questing and doing missions to obtain powerful weapons. Thank Delve for that.

No more rage quit anger over greedy HNMLS fighting over who gets the drops from HNM.
Thanks to Wildkeeper Reives, I don't have to get cheated, lied to for wasting 1 week killing myself watching for spawn only to have it stolen, tricked of getting to play the event by rude, elitist only to say "Sorry we lied, now go run off and cry"

And how Japan could see spawn before us so it popped already claimed before sprite appeared.

That's why I can't complain about the new direction. I'm glad.

[Daemon]

I'm totally down with all the stuff... There was so much stuff to do when I first started a couple years ago, and the jobs I love to play (BLM and RNG) get 0 love whatsoever from the playerbase... It was all about trying to get quests and missions done. I play with my wife, but there was only so much we could do with only the 2 of us. Now that the level has been increased, and with all the Adoulin Gear, I'm finally able to get out and enjoy this game for the storyline. I don't want to be able to solo everything, but at least with the main storylines, I figured any well-balanced group of any jobs should be able to go through it and get it done.

I'm finding that SE is putting in little hints to go back to old content, like popsets in flotsam. I also know how much pressure they're under because of both games working at the same time. I hope that they can keep both of them afloat...

Yeah I'm seeing a lot of good improvements. I love that they added DD stats to Mage Bayld gears :) STR!!!

[Slaxx]

I'm saying try to get it all in the first time before you hit post. It's no fun writing a response and then seeing that the original post to which I am responding has changed.

I've pointed this exact thing out to him multiple times. In his mind making changes and adding points to a post 15+ minutes later isn't a big deal. I've even gone so far as to explain how to edit a post properly so he doesn't come off looking like a revisionist but he has chosen to ignore that.

Daemon - Stop posting from work when you don't have the time to fully respond and wait until you do. The OF won't melt down if you don't post 10+ times a day (not including your extensive edits).

[Daemon]

I've pointed this exact thing out to him multiple times. In his mind making changes and adding points to a post 15+ minutes later isn't a big deal. I've even gone so far as to explain how to edit a post properly so he doesn't come off looking like a revisionist but he has chosen to ignore that.

Daemon - Stop posting from work when you don't have the time to fully respond and wait until you do. The OF won't melt down if you don't post 10+ times a day (not including your extensive edits).

Uh if you know I edit my post and I already said this over and over then you'd know by now I never turn around and change my words to make me look right. I just add on than start a new reply. The only thing I do change is if I misspelled or used broken English or if spell correcting from iPhone placed a word that was incorrect.

If he said he was in the middle of writing something but saw that I added on to my post. Then that should tell you that I never go back and change my words to make it look like something was said and they are wrong. Obviously he never posted anything for me to go back and change something I said.

It's just I type from a cellphone and because I can't preview what I wrote without posting first I have no choice.

Then there is spacing paragraphs so it doesn't look like 1 huge chunk of words. And if I post first and edit, I have to add it fast before someone else posts a reply or else my entire response will come out different.

[Slaxx]

Uh if you know I edit my post and I already said this over and over then you'd know by now I never turn around and change my words to make me look right. I just add on than start a new reply. The only thing I do change is if I misspelled or used broken English or if spell correcting from iPhone placed a word that was incorrect.

If he said he was in the middle of writing something but saw that I added on to my post. Then that should tell you that I never go back and change my words to make it look like something was said and they are wrong. Obviously he never posted anything for me to go back and change something I said.

It's just I type from a cellphone and because I can't preview what I wrote without posting first I have no choice.

Then there is spacing paragraphs so it doesn't look like 1 huge chunk of words. And if I post first and edit, I have to add it fast before someone else posts a reply or else my entire response will come out different.

This is all easy to say, but here's the thing - you do add points to your posts and those additions do alter the points you are trying to make and how you make them.

My basic point still stands. Stop posting if you can't put your thoughts out in a coherent manner regularly. There's no reason to be constantly posting from you phone. Whatever you have to say can wait. The OF will not disappear without your contribution.

[Daemon]

This is all easy to say, but here's the thing - you do add points to your posts and those additions do alter the points you are trying to make and how you make them.

My basic point still stands. Stop posting if you can't put your thoughts out in a coherent manner regularly. There's no reason to be constantly posting from you phone. Whatever you have to say can wait. The OF will not disappear without your contribution.

Adding points to my response doesn't alter what I'm saying. It's just adding on to what my overall point was about.

[Slaxx]

Adding points to my response doesn't alter what I'm saying. It's just adding on to what my overall point was about.

Except it does, but you'll never understand that so I'm wasting my time on this point. You will notice, however, that I'm not the only person to point this out to you and express irritation over it.

And none of this (again) addresses my basic point. Whatever you have to say can wait. Your contribution isn't so important that it absolutely must be made before you can get to a place where you have the time and hardware to post a single, coherent reply, without having to edit yourself in nearly every post you make.

[Daemon]

Except it does, but you'll never understand that so I'm wasting my time on this point. You will notice, however, that I'm not the only person to point this out to you and express irritation over it.

And none of this (again) addresses my basic point. Whatever you have to say can wait. Your contribution isn't so important that it absolutely must be made before you can get to a place where you have the time and hardware to post a single, coherent reply, without having to edit yourself in nearly every post you make.

Well I'm sorry you take it that way but that's never my intention to begin with and assuming I do rub off as you say, I'm sure you have seen me post enough times to know how I post my responses. Not like I've been on the forums 1 day.

[OmnysValefor]

Way off topic, gents. :)

[Slaxx]

Well I'm sorry you take it that way but that's never my intention to begin with and assuming I do rub off as you say, I'm sure you have seen me post enough times to know how I post my responses. Not like I've been on the forums 1 day.

Just because you always do something one way doesn't make it right. There's a word for someone who does something wrong over and over again while ignoring the people telling them they are doing something wrong (well several words depending on context).

Again ignoring my basic point, but again that's par for the course.

[Daemon]

Just because you always do something one way doesn't make it right. There's a word for someone who does something wrong over and over again while ignoring the people telling them they are doing something wrong (well several words depending on context).

Again ignoring my basic point, but again that's par for the course.

Uh your logic does not make sense. People edit all the time. Maybe not the way you want everyone to. But I'd rather post a quick reply to let the person know I'm paying attention to them than make them wait 20-40 minutes to respond back especially when conversing with several people at the moment.

[Daemon]

I'm merely trying to avoid this.


Also, there are cases it might feel this way when you don't receive an answer to certain things you were expecting and the subject continues to shift.

[OmnysValefor]

How does praising devs counter that "you might feel like we're not responding to you"?

[detlef]

Just to end this discussion on editing posts: The ability to edit your post is so you can make editorial changes and/or correct ambiguities. Adding major revisions 5 or 10 minutes later with major additions is discourteous.

[Daemon]

Just to end this discussion on editing posts: The ability to edit your post is so you can make editorial changes and/or correct ambiguities. Adding major revisions 5 or 10 minutes later with major additions is discourteous.

I dont make revisions. I add things on to my post that I didn't finish what I said. Because I respond to a person at the very moment. First post does not allow "Preview option" until I post something first. Then I have to build on top of it.

I've even had to cut what I was writing under edit mode after seeing someone post a reply only for me to respond faster creating a new response under the person who replied.

Meaning if you posted before I finished I'd cut and paste under to keep editing what the 1st reply was splitting the original reply into 2 separate comments.

When speaking with more than 2 other people at the same time it was done to quickly reply to everyone before the subject shifted.

Yes there were times I spent 30 minutes only for the subject to evolve into something else therefore It was more convenient for me to respond the way I do now.

[Daemon]

This also prevents splitting 1 post into 5-10 replies for 1 response. Which I find unnecessary and wasting forum space.

[Daemon]

Try typing on a 4 inch smartphone then you'll see what I mean.

[Rekin]

I'm curious if the FFXIV team and FFXI team ever get together and discuss design.

[Infidi]

I'm curious if the FFXIV team and FFXI team ever get together and discuss design.

How do you think the ideas for Cait Sith and Pet:Treasure Hunter gear was so quickly implemented! Oh wait... :(

[Umichi]

Is this even about expressiing gratitude to Mr. Matsui anymore?

[Demon6324236]

No, its not, if I am correct at one point it went from being out being grateful to him, to why he does not deserve gratitude.

[Umichi]

No, its not, if I am correct at one point it went from being out being grateful to him, to why he does not deserve gratitude.

saw little bit about forum ettiqute on the end there too lol...

[Anjou]

saw little bit about forum ettiqute on the end there too lol...

Well Umichi it's the truth as to why Matsui doesn't deserve it: He does not listen to NA or EU, in fact let's just add in the rest of the globe because the only players he listens to are his JP players. He does not care about what we think, he only accepts ideas from the Japanese, which typically are things we don't typically agree on because their way of thinking is different than ours simply because of culture. Because of this, NA/EU/SA will butt heads with JP BECAUSE OF THIS. Matsui works hard there is no doubt about that, and yes some of the things he's done has been good, but he needs to step up his game or else he's going to be remembered as a horrible developer to FFXI's history.

Truth be told, he's got things to fix, and he needs to stop focusing on the new content to fix these issues. In short: Stop trying to pacify the playerbase, stop being lazy, and get s--t done. If I was his supervisor and I saw this kind of conduct being done, I would personally get on his case because that's not how one conducts themselves, idc what the terms of service says about us only having the right to quit, we also have the right to be talked to like the JP players and know wtf is going on with a game we're shelling out a monthly fee for, and find out why they are putting the more important/crucial things on backburner while they try to woo us with these items with absurd stats, why they won't increase lvl cap but they have no problem adding 'item levels' which is a stupid concept altogether, we really don't care what the lvl is on the item, it's for lvl 99 and that's all one needs to know.

[Daemon]

Well Umichi it's the truth as to why Matsui doesn't deserve it: He does not listen to NA or EU, in fact let's just add in the rest of the globe because the only players he listens to are his JP players. He does not care about what we think, he only accepts ideas from the Japanese, which typically are things we don't typically agree on because their way of thinking is different than ours simply because of culture. Because of this, NA/EU/SA will butt heads with JP BECAUSE OF THIS. Matsui works hard there is no doubt about that, and yes some of the things he's done has been good, but he needs to step up his game or else he's going to be remembered as a horrible developer to FFXI's history.

Truth be told, he's got things to fix, and he needs to stop focusing on the new content to fix these issues. In short: Stop trying to pacify the playerbase, stop being lazy, and get s--t done. If I was his supervisor and I saw this kind of conduct being done, I would personally get on his case because that's not how one conducts themselves, idc what the terms of service says about us only having the right to quit, we also have the right to be talked to like the JP players and know wtf is going on with a game we're shelling out a monthly fee for, and find out why they are putting the more important/crucial things on backburner while they try to woo us with these items with absurd stats, why they won't increase lvl cap but they have no problem adding 'item levels' which is a stupid concept altogether, we really don't care what the lvl is on the item, it's for lvl 99 and that's all one needs to know.

Lol an advance discussion was made here that might change your point of view. Too much to repost here but read that first before you guys decide whether or not Matsui deserves gratification.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36715-Possible-upgrades-to-older-hard-to-obtain-gear

[Anjou]

Daemon I know that he's doing a good job concerning the new content, but what I'm saying is that if he wants to -really- deserve gratification, he'll bring up old promises and finish up what the devs started concerning job fixes and adding things like Cait Sith to the list of summons. For god's sakes, summoner hasn't had anything new in terms of magic save for Odin/Alex but you only get them once an hour (More if you are in an area that has revitalizers). I think if he wants to please at least some of the community, he could start there and make it look like he cares about getting the game in a better state and work on the jobs that need fixing *Cough*Blue Mage*Cough*

[Daemon]

Daemon I know that he's doing a good job concerning the new content, but what I'm saying is that if he wants to -really- deserve gratification, he'll bring up old promises and finish up what the devs started concerning job fixes and adding things like Cait Sith to the list of summons. For god's sakes, summoner hasn't had anything new in terms of magic save for Odin/Alex but you only get them once an hour (More if you are in an area that has revitalizers). I think if he wants to please at least some of the community, he could start there and make it look like he cares about getting the game in a better state and work on the jobs that need fixing *Cough*Blue Mage*Cough*

True but how can he do that if SoA failed, several players quit due to disappointment in the new expansion plus REM? I just think he is trying to make SoA a success first before fixing other things.

Kinda like being in a life or death situation for FFXI.