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Hayward
08-14-2013, 02:18 AM
It's been a while since some better-quality instruments have been introduced to the Auction House. As stated before, some people who don't play BRD exclusively could use some higher-quality wind & string instruments that can hold their own in Delve or Wildskeeper reives.

detlef
08-14-2013, 03:03 AM
You can already hold your own in these situations. +3 instruments are only -1 off a level 99 Ghorn.

Hayward
08-14-2013, 04:25 AM
That appears true as far as buffing goes, but are they effective as far as landing Requiems, Lullabies, and the like with capped skills?

detlef
08-14-2013, 04:39 AM
That's not really related to the instrument.

Kensagaku
08-14-2013, 04:47 AM
Instrument has never had anything to do with that. If you lack decent-quality M.acc gear, then an instrument isn't going to help you much. I mean hell, my m.acc set isn't amazing compared to Phil's (but then again, who can compete with 99 R/M/E Bards? xD) but even I have little difficulty landing most of my debuffs. An idea of my m.acc gear for landing debuffs:

Soothsayer's (even unaug'd!) | Mephistis Grip (M.acc+5) | Instrument* | Empty
A'as Circlet (Can do Orvail Head) | AF3 Neck (duration) | Lifestorm | Psystorm
AF3 Body+2 (Duration, Skill) | AF3 Hands+2 (Skill/M.acc) | Balrahn's | Sangoma Ring (Can use Omega/Strendu)
Rhapsode's Cape (formerly Mesmeric) | Demonry Sash (can get Aswang from Meebles or use Aristo for CHR) | AF3+2 Legs (Skill/Acc/Recast) | Nares Clogs (Orvail's better now!)

*For Instrument - Pan's Horn for single-target Lullabies, any Harp for Hordes; Syrinx for Elegies, and any Wind Instruments for Requiem/Nocturne/Threnody.

My point is that it's pretty easy to get together a decent M.acc set for BRD, and land debuffs with fair ease. In all of that, the only thing I have trouble landing is Finales at times, as some mobs are just resistant. Requiems have always been... well, Requiems, but things like Elegy, Lullaby, and Nocturne tend to be easy to land. Hell, it's easy to sleep Delve NMs with Lullaby, as part of our strategies involves sleeping the Eft long enough for us to smack the Matamata when it's ready, or sleeping NMs that linked onto ones pulled.

As Phil said, it's easy to get most of the +3 instruments, and they're not all THAT much behind a level 99 Ghorn. We're not really in need of more instruments, as long as M.acc sets are made.

Byrth
08-14-2013, 07:39 AM
Gjallarhorn still offers 50-60 Macc over the next best option.

Instruments do not appear to get iLevels, so they will not ever be listed over 99.

Babekeke
08-14-2013, 08:00 AM
Requiems have always been... well, Requiems

Since the requiem update, I almost never see it resisted now. Using requiem flute.

Limecat
08-14-2013, 08:36 AM
They should have a leathercraft synth that makes a flute out of eight behemoth leathers, with all the shanks people have been using lately.

Byrth
08-14-2013, 11:20 AM
They should have a leathercraft synth that makes a flute out of eight behemoth leathers, with all the shanks people have been using lately.

You want to play the behemoth skinflute?

To each, his own!

Babekeke
08-14-2013, 06:14 PM
You want to play the behemoth skinflute?

To each, his own!

Eeeeew lol

Demon6324236
08-14-2013, 07:48 PM
You want to play the behemoth skinflute?

To each, his own!Oh god! XD

Lithera
08-15-2013, 01:12 AM
I have most of the +3 instruments. I just don't relish the idea of trying to put together shout groups to spam Celaeno for The march one. LS leader more or less demands that instrument if you don't have R/E despite the fact it's hardly necessary to cap off magic haste.

OmnysValefor
08-15-2013, 01:13 AM
Completely off topic, but I love your sig limecat. Always have.

Zumi
08-15-2013, 03:50 AM
I would say new Bard instruments need to be introduced that surpass Ghorn and Daurdabla. All the other jobs that got new weapons from delve bosses had a huge increase in their damage by a very large margin.

Lets look at meeles. Pre SoA something doing around 500 DPS was doing well, like a Raganarok DRK. Now post SoA with new weapons people are doing around 1600 DPS. Melees have a fairly short amount of time to gear up. Spend less then 45 min killing a delve boss, you got yourself a new super weapon that will out preform pre SoA R/M/E weapons by 3-4 times.

Now we look at Bard who go left out in the cold on delve, no new instruments. To be a top bard they still need Ghorn and Daurdabla. They still have to get a G-horn, about 98m if you buy currency in bazzars including marrows. Daurdabla is a long process of farming abyssea Colorless souls take quite awhile, Apademk can as well not as long since you can buy pop items from ah. Since nobody really does VW anymore plates are quite expensive, and there is a lack of rift cinder. Plates are around 80k-100k, Cinder is around 2.5m Your talking 270m total for a 99 Daurdabla.

So the question is why is it meless have a really easy route to becoming the best and Brd is stuck doing old events which nobody really does anymore and paying huge amounts of gil.

Byrth
08-15-2013, 05:13 AM
SE reduced/removed the need for Daurd by putting ridiculous buffs on melee weapons. Now Bard has two really useful songs (Marches) and a lot of stuff that's kind of "meh" level (unnecessary madrigals, quasi-necessary minuets, scherzo, etc.) The benefit of 99 Daurd at this point is that it lets you avoid party swapping, which is more of a QoL improvement for the bards/party leaders than an essential part of any strategy.

G-horn 99 gives a 1% Haste improvement over Lang for March (assuming Haste spell) and is the best Ballad/debuffing instrument by quite a bit. At the moment, I'd say it's more useful than Daurd. Neither, however, are necessary anymore if your group isn't filled with bad players.