Voidwatch Expansion

[BigPapaBlueJay]

Please expand Voidwatch into the Seekers of Adoulin areas. Use the Nakaauls with new skins as the enemies in applicable zones, and do what you will with other zones' enemies.

And as a suggestion for drops! Weapons or armors with special, sought after, effects, such as what was done with the Murasamemaru. Or job specific drops (preferably a voucher system to trade for chosen job's drop) to enhance the jobs' core focus.

Whatever you want to do is fine, just add to voidwatch!

[Bamph]

Please expand Voidwatch into the Seekers of Adoulin areas. Use the Nakaauls with new skins as the enemies in applicable zones, and do what you will with other zones' enemies.

And as a suggestion for drops! Weapons or armors with special, sought after, effects, such as what was done with the Murasamemaru. Or job specific drops (preferably a voucher system to trade for chosen job's drop) to enhance the jobs' core focus.

Whatever you want to do is fine, just add to voidwatch!

Adding to this:

Please, make a *guaranteed* drop some sort of count system so that if you do x fights, you can trade those things in for a piece of equipment it drops (25 for a common drop, 50 for a rare drop, 1000 for the super mega ultra rare drop or something like that) ^^

[Vivivivi]

No. More. Voidwatch. Ever. Please no.

[detlef]

Please expand Voidwatch into the Seekers of Adoulin areas.


No. More. Voidwatch. Ever. Please no.I'm not sure how it's possible but I'm equally on-board with both of these ideas.

[Siviard]

Voidwatch was horrible. No more, please.....for the love of Altana, no......

[Twille]

no thanks.

[FaeQueenCory]

LoL It'll happen. just wait.
A year or two down the road....
once all of Adoulin is finished being implemented....
VW will be expanded.
Hurray for more warps! lol

[BigPapaBlueJay]

Why the opposition? If you don't like the content, you don't have to participate. Expanding VW helps enrich the game.

I can understand frustration with low drop rates, but without them, the content would stagnate too quickly. Expansion would also help quell people's worries with Empyrean upgrades as well as introduce more sources for crafting materials and other miscellaneous items. Voidwatch had a huge impact on the game when it was first introduced, and would still have a significant impact if it were to be rejuvenated.

[Vivivivi]

I will agree that more Emp items would be good. But most SoA zones suffer from lag already with colonization tribes, farming items, VW would make this worse.

I personally have had enough of the weakness trigger system. SoA brought some more raw battle strategy back to the game instead of worrying about landing a random proc. Also aside from maybe ninja, all jobs are fairly relevant in SoA content, VW excludes many of these jobs.

[Siviard]

Why the opposition? If you don't like the content, you don't have to participate. Expanding VW helps enrich the game.

I can understand frustration with low drop rates, but without them, the content would stagnate too quickly. Expansion would also help quell people's worries with Empyrean upgrades as well as introduce more sources for crafting materials and other miscellaneous items. Voidwatch had a huge impact on the game when it was first introduced, and would still have a significant impact if it were to be rejuvenated.

That's just the thing. The drop rates were SO LOW, people eventually just GAVE UP TRYING. Therefore, stagnating content.

Try going 0/1,000+ on Kaggen for the body. I know it's more than 0/1,000 I simply stopped counting and caring. PRAISE ALTANA Seekers of Adoulin came out soon after.

[Siviard]

Why the opposition? If you don't like the content, you don't have to participate. Expanding VW helps enrich the game.

I can understand frustration with low drop rates, but without them, the content would stagnate too quickly. Expansion would also help quell people's worries with Empyrean upgrades as well as introduce more sources for crafting materials and other miscellaneous items. Voidwatch had a huge impact on the game when it was first introduced, and would still have a significant impact if it were to be rejuvenated.

Oh, I get it. Voidwatch was your main source of income, wasn't it? Now that Voidwatch is dead for the most part (THANK ALTANA FOR THAT!) you're here posting to try to get the Development Team to expand Voidwatch.

I hear Dynamis farming is still somewhat relevant.....

[Eri]

Voidwatch was .... good money.... however boreing... and just a bad excuse to use some Job or Subjobs
rather than fixing the Abilitys? Just make them relavet through a spammy Event?

No thank you.
Don't waste developent time on content like VW. Fix the Abilitys and Jobs.

[Vladislav]

Well we already have out fracture NM's , they remind me VW , but w/o procs . I really doubdt VW will be added to Adoulin since VW story has ended with PW death .

[BigPapaBlueJay]

Oh, I get it. Voidwatch was your main source of income, wasn't it? Now that Voidwatch is dead for the most part (THANK ALTANA FOR THAT!) you're here posting to try to get the Development Team to expand Voidwatch.

I hear Dynamis farming is still somewhat relevant.....

I actually made my billions through ADL and NNI. I just enjoy VW.

Addressing lag - I have yet to experience any outside of reives and delve.

Low drop rate causing content stagnation isn't too relevant. Giving up after 1,000 tries still meant you participated 1,000 times.

[Demon6324236]

I can understand frustration with low drop rates, but without them, the content would stagnate too quickly.Normally you would be right, I mean, why do content when you already have all of the drops?


Expansion would also help quell people's worries with Empyrean upgrades as well as introduce more sources for crafting materials and other miscellaneous items.That right there is exactly why it would not stagnate. You see, much like the original VW, or rather, exactly like the original VW, if items drop that are worth a nice bit of money and are useful for making some of the strongest or most special weapons in the game, people will do the content whether they have the drops they wanted or not. You see, I got Heka's from Akvan on my first run of 6 ever, I believe it was my 3rd kill, but just because I got Heka's does not mean I flat out never did Akvan again, no, instead I fought Akvan in a much more relaxed feel, I had my primary goal, I was done with this NM, I could go to help out & get some money, but I did not feel as though I had to go kill it 1000 times to get something useful for my job. On the other hand, every kill of Aello I ever did I felt like I was going through hell, it was never just for money, or for a somewhat common drop, I went for Ephemeron. I killed Aello a ton of times, never saw it drop to me, only 3 of them to others, every kill was just another round of disappointment with nothing to look forward to the next.

Saying if you reward players well for their time and do not make .1% drop rates that the content will die but at the same time saying they should add money drops that have kept the same content alive in the past, is as funny as its true, and that is to say, not at all.


Voidwatch had a huge impact on the game when it was first introduced, and would still have a significant impact if it were to be rejuvenated.With how annoyed people are with WK drops, things being out dated quickly, and many other issues that have yet to be resolved due to them constantly adding new content. Really, I agree, this would have a significant impact, but in the opposite way your talking about, because if they started another VW tour I would quit this game instantly unless it had a fix for all other VW with it as well as drop rates worth a damn. If it was the same old VW we all know, I would be gone, because with everything else in this game, I am not willing to go farm a VWNM for weeks or months for a weapon which is outdated 1 or 2 updates after the one which added it to the game.

[Siviard]

I actually made my billions through ADL and NNI. I just enjoy VW.

Addressing lag - I have yet to experience any outside of reives and delve.

Low drop rate causing content stagnation isn't too relevant. Giving up after 1,000 tries still meant you participated 1,000 times.

And in hindsight, an utter waste of my time. Take your Voidwatch pipedream elsewhere, please.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

...because if they started another VW tour I would quit this game instantly unless it had a fix for all other VW with it as well as drop rates worth a damn. If it was the same old VW we all know, I would be gone, because with everything else in this game, I am not willing to go farm a VWNM for weeks or months for a weapon which is outdated 1 or 2 updates after the one which added it to the game.

Nobody would be forcing you to participate in this content. VW can be expanded upon and enjoyed by those who wish to do it. It is just like any other new event, you don't have to do it, it is just an option. Even if the drops were "game changing," you wouldn't have to do it, you can be content with where you are. Stating that you would quit the game over an event being introduced that you don't have to participate in is ridiculous.

As for things becoming outdated quickly, everyone gets annoyed with that. Although if VW expansion were to ever come to fruition, I would like to have drops that were also upgrades of old VW rewards (i.e. Ganesha's Mala +1, Heka's Kalasiris +1, etc.). Regardless of rewards though, you don't have to participate, you just would have to live without the rewards.

[Demon6324236]

Nobody would be forcing you to participate in this content.Yeah, no one requires RMED DDs, R/E BRDs, Aegis/Ochain PLDs, or anything else stupidly outrageous either I suppose. But wait, people do, and more so, this game does, with how Matsui has it setup to move forward we are expected to do a large portion of the content in our path to get gear to move onto the next content, and while he does not expect us to do every single bit, VW is a large event, like Delve, I assure you, it would become a mandatory part of the game in some form, just like last time. On top of that, I suppose I should simply avoid the horribly designed luck based drop system of VW and its fights, there by avoiding its gear, no matter how good it is or how much I want it, simply because they brought back a horrible system in the first place which was never fixed.


VW can be expanded upon and enjoyed by those who wish to do it.I am fine with that, so long as it fixes VW's largest issues at the same exact time, not months down the road, and is actually enjoyable.


It is just like any other new event, you don't have to do it, it is just an option. Even if the drops were "game changing," you wouldn't have to do it, you can be content with where you are.I cant be content where I am, no, I will not be excluded from content because I do not meet the new quota of the month for how good my RDM must be in order to be acceptable to parties for events I actually want to do. At the same time, only an idiot would subject themselves to horrible content design with low to non-existant drop rates for a 1 in 1000 chance at an item every kill while trying for months to get it with the almost certain knowledge that it will soon mean nothing anyways.


Stating that you would quit the game over an event being introduced that you don't have to participate in is ridiculous.I agree, if I said I'm quitting at the end of the month because of Monstrosity, that would be one thing, that is however not what I am saying, I am saying I would quit the game if they took that design path again because it was horrible, and only proves to me that they are not improving upon the design. As I said, fix the large issues with VW, and Ill be happy with it, as would many others, do not fix those issues, and it would be nothing more than a waste of my time, show me the devs time is being largely wasted, and cause me to quit. My quitting would not be simply they added content I didn't like, but rather the fact they ignore so many other large & glaring issues that to add this new content on top of it all would only make things worse, and would make me feel as though they really are simply not trying to fix our problems.

[Demon6324236]

Low drop rate causing content stagnation isn't too relevant. Giving up after 1,000 tries still meant you participated 1,000 times.Oh I see, so its better to have a player pissed off they wasted their time 1000 fights rather than to have a happy player coming back for more rewards such as plates constantly because they feel as though their time is properly rewarded. Sounds like a great idea.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

Yeah, no one requires RMED DDs, R/E BRDs, Aegis/Ochain PLDs, or anything else stupidly outrageous either I suppose. But wait, people do, and more so, this game does, with how Matsui has it setup to move forward we are expected to do a large portion of the content in our path to get gear to move onto the next content, and while he does not expect us to do every single bit, VW is a large event, like Delve, I assure you, it would become a mandatory part of the game in some form, just like last time. On top of that, I suppose I should simply avoid the horribly designed luck based drop system of VW and its fights, there by avoiding its gear, no matter how good it is or how much I want it, simply because they brought back a horrible system in the first place which was never fixed.

I am fine with that, so long as it fixes VW's largest issues at the same exact time, not months down the road, and is actually enjoyable.

I cant be content where I am, no, I will not be excluded from content because I do not meet the new quota of the month for how good my RDM must be in order to be acceptable to parties for events I actually want to do. At the same time, only an idiot would subject themselves to horrible content design with low to non-existant drop rates for a 1 in 1000 chance at an item every kill while trying for months to get it with the almost certain knowledge that it will soon mean nothing anyways.

I agree, if I said I'm quitting at the end of the month because of Monstrosity, that would be one thing, that is however not what I am saying, I am saying I would quit the game if they took that design path again because it was horrible, and only proves to me that they are not improving upon the design. As I said, fix the large issues with VW, and Ill be happy with it, as would many others, do not fix those issues, and it would be nothing more than a waste of my time, show me the devs time is being largely wasted, and cause me to quit. My quitting would not be simply they added content I didn't like, but rather the fact they ignore so many other large & glaring issues that to add this new content on top of it all would only make things worse, and would make me feel as though they really are simply not trying to fix our problems.

There is always the option to be content with mediocrity. I believe low drop rate is the only concern people seem to be having on this topic. I'm not advocating for low drop rate, I'm just saying that it would be necessary. By all means make a new system, but I don't think that the current VW system is broken.

All I'm interested in is an expansion of Voidwatch into the Adoulin areas.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

Oh I see, so its better to have a player pissed off they wasted their time 1000 fights rather than to have a happy player coming back for more rewards such as plates constantly because they feel as though their time is properly rewarded. Sounds like a great idea.

Money isn't as big of a motivator as rare/ex gear.

[Demon6324236]

I'm not advocating for low drop rate, I'm just saying that it would be necessary.You can not say its necessary to put your players through a stupidly hellish about of tries against a single monster in order to get their reward, and at the same time talk about adding a few items of high worth to the mixture at the same time. Its the same thing I keep saying with WK Reives. The content will continue to go on so long as people see money in it, if Plates make money, Dross make money, and Cinder make money, VW makes money, and if VW makes money, no matter if you have the only drop you want, every drop from the NM, or no drops at all, you have a reason to do the NM, and are most likely going to do it at some point unless you are one of the few people in this game who actually do not need money.

[Demon6324236]

Money isn't as big of a motivator as rare/ex gear.A .1% drop isn't as big of a motivator as money.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

A .1% drop isn't as big of a motivator as money.

Money generally only motivates those who wish to spend money on big ticket items. If you already are satisfied with your position, the rare, incredible items, that would be free, are a larger motivator.

[Siviard]

There is always the option to be content with mediocrity. I believe low drop rate is the only concern people seem to be having on this topic. I'm not advocating for low drop rate, I'm just saying that it would be necessary. By all means make a new system, but I don't think that the current VW system is broken.

All I'm interested in is an expansion of Voidwatch into the Adoulin areas.

I have never nearly pissed myself laughing before, but the bolded part nearly did it.

If you think Voidwatch is "superior" gear, then you've got your priorities horribly mixed up. Voidwatch is old and busted. Man, even Bayld gear is better than most of the gear that comes from Voidwatch and Bayld gear is considered "mediocre". And guess what! I DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH A 1/1000 CHANCE TO GET IT!!!! I've got a bunch of the Delve armor pieces already, which is vastly superior to the Voidwatch load of fecal matter you seem to think is so good. It takes a little work to get, but guess what? At least I know I'm working towards an attainable goal (delve armor) every time I participate in a plasm farm run.

So kindly take your Voidwatch "expansion request" and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Voidwatch was HORRIBLE and must never see the light of day again.

[Demon6324236]

Money generally only motivates those who wish to spend money on big ticket items. If you already are satisfied with your position, the rare, incredible items, that would be free, are a larger motivator.That's funny, because I have yet to meet a person in game who would not go do an event for money unless the event was unbearably boring to them. In the event of Dyna for instance, I know many people who hate it and will not do it for gil, by that same token, I know many who will, I also know many of the people who will not do Dyna, will not do it because they hate it, not they don't need money. Besides that, if you are already satisfied with your 'position' then it seems to me that going back to what you said before, you should obviously be content with your mediocrity, should you not? I mean, if your not willing to spend a large sum of gil on an item, gil which takes a long time to earn, why would you spend an even longer amount of time fighting a NM for a .1% drop rate item? Simple answer, you wouldn't, your logic is flawed. No one who is unwilling to spend large amounts of gil for an item would be willing to spend a large amount of time on a lower drop rate item because you are essentially spending the same thing, time. Be it time spent earning gil, or time spent fighting a NM, its time no matter how you look at it.

[Bamph]

Oh, I get it. Voidwatch was your main source of income, wasn't it? Now that Voidwatch is dead for the most part (THANK ALTANA FOR THAT!) you're here posting to try to get the Development Team to expand Voidwatch.

I hear Dynamis farming is still somewhat relevant.....

I get it... You never had to farm items for gil... You always had enough for whatever you wanted... I wonder how... hmmm... I wonder how...

But seriously? Calling out someone for the way they make their gil? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...................... Please pass me along any HMPs you get, because I'm severely lacking in the gil department at the moment. :D

Hugs and Taru Kisses!

- Bamph

[BigPapaBlueJay]

I have never nearly pissed myself laughing before, but the bolded part nearly did it.

If you think Voidwatch is "superior" gear, then you've got your priorities horribly mixed up. Voidwatch is old and busted. Man, even Bayld gear is better than most of the gear that comes from Voidwatch and Bayld gear is considered "mediocre". And guess what! I DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH A 1/1000 CHANCE TO GET IT!!!! I've got a bunch of the Delve armor pieces already, which is vastly superior to the Voidwatch load of fecal matter you seem to think is so good. It takes a little work to get, but guess what? At least I know I'm working towards an attainable goal (delve armor) every time I participate in a plasm farm run.

So kindly take your Voidwatch "expansion request" and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Voidwatch was HORRIBLE and must never see the light of day again.

You're twisting things. Voidwatch expansion into Adoulin areas would be sure to bring in some superior pieces of gear. I'm not talking about current VW.

[Siviard]

I get it... You never had to farm items for gil... You always had enough for whatever you wanted... I wonder how... hmmm... I wonder how...

But seriously? Calling out someone for the way they make their gil? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...................... Please pass me along any HMPs you get, because I'm severely lacking in the gil department at the moment. :D

Hugs and Taru Kisses!

- Bamph

Crafting, my friend. Crafting. Specifically Leathercraft. It helps having a 105 Leathercraft mule.

Oh, and I hardly ever got any HMPs whenever I did do Voidwatch. In total, I probably got 50 pieces. Even when I did Voidwatch specifically to try farming plates to sell, I wouldn't get any. Such is my luck.

[Siviard]

You're twisting things. Voidwatch expansion into Adoulin areas would be sure to bring in some superior pieces of gear. I'm not talking about current VW.

And you're missing the point. No one in their right mind will put themselves through another 1 out of 1,000 chance for a piece of situational gear, when there is gear they can buy with Bayld, or obtain from Delve either via drop directly from NM, or from purchasing with Plasm.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

And you're missing the point. No one in their right mind will put themselves through another 1 out of 1,000 chance for a piece of situational gear, when there is gear they can buy with Bayld, or obtain from Delve either via drop directly from NM, or from purchasing with Plasm.

People would gladly do it if the 0.1% chance item was superior. You are one person from one viewpoint. You are arguing against current items, yet, this thread is about the expansion of voidwatch, which would come with new, unknown, probably superior, items, especially in the Adoulin region.

[Siviard]

People would gladly do it if the 0.1% chance item was superior. You are one person from one viewpoint. You are arguing against current items, yet, this thread is about the expansion of voidwatch, which would come with new, unknown, probably superior, items, especially in the Adoulin region.

Well, I'm sure the Development Team recalls all the complaints regarding the Voidwatch system. They've been doing a good job as of late with most of what they've been doing regarding Seekers of Adoulin and now you're asking them to bring back something old.

I'm not a religious person, but I pray the Development Team ignores your request.

And yes, I'm just one person. One person with a pretty damn common complaint when it comes to Voidwatch.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

You still don't need to participate in Voidwatch if it is expanded. Why even bother arguing against the addition of new content? New content that people find enjoyable should be supported regardless if you like it or not. Instead of complain, come up with a suggested solution. Your responses are akin to poor sportsmanship; should just put on a smile and encourage others on the field.

[Siviard]

You still don't need to participate in Voidwatch if it is expanded. Why even bother arguing against the addition of new content? New content that people find enjoyable should be supported regardless if you like it or not. Instead of complain, come up with a suggested solution. Your responses are akin to poor sportsmanship; should just put on a smile and encourage others on the field.

I would advise anyone I cared about in game to avoid Voidwatch at all costs if they value their sanity. At this point, I belive you're trolling.

Good night. Just like Voidwatch, you're a waste of my time.

[Demon6324236]

You still don't need to participate in Voidwatch if it is expanded.Again, I suppose I should just ignore bad revived content, rather than say I want content or fixes that are actually good.


Why even bother arguing against the addition of new content?Have you seen how slow they are at doing things? How far behind they are on updates? Why would I not complain about an update to revive horrible content that nearly no one liked while it drains resources from other more important updates or additions which have been asked for and promised for months, or years.

[Leiberfond]

I think its a fantastic idea. Haters gonna hate. but it would be really cool to bring back the Empyrean upgrades. Pouches of Cinders/Dross, HQ pouches ~99 HMPs. That would be well worth the added update.

[detlef]

I think its a fantastic idea. Haters gonna hate. but it would be really cool to bring back the Empyrean upgrades. Pouches of Cinders/Dross, HQ pouches ~99 HMPs. That would be well worth the added update.Any event would be good if you could get pouches of HMP/Dross/Cinder.

[Kimjongil]

And why does he want VW? E's 90-99 items? Every one of them is outdated now, and will at least be that way until December 2014. Even then they wont be as great as other weapons in game. As someone who has a 99 E, I just don't see REM getting much upon update. Perhaps a 99 with unlocked weapon skill and aftermath.

If that will be the only reward, very few new ones will be made.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

And why does he want VW? E's 90-99 items? Every one of them is outdated now, and will at least be that way until December 2014. Even then they wont be as great as other weapons in game. As someone who has a 99 E, I just don't see REM getting much upon update. Perhaps a 99 with unlocked weapon skill and aftermath.

If that will be the only reward, very few new ones will be made.

New VW NM's would be fun! It could also be an alternate plasm source via beads or new item, or even direct drop. Lots of possibilities if they were to expand Voidwatch.

[Bamph]

New VW NM's would be fun! It could also be an alternate plasm source via beads or new item, or even direct drop. Lots of possibilities if they were to expand Voidwatch.

Make the drops somewhat like a mix between the normals and PW: You get your own chance at everything it drops in the box, plus the mob has a chance (or will, a guaranteed drop would be nice) drop one of it's higher-tier loot items to the pool for everyone to lot on if the lights are maxed out. Best of both!

[Gannon]

The one thing I would love about this would be having access to VW ports in Adoulin, lol.

[Siviard]

Damn, can't get the .gif to work. Oh well......

[BigPapaBlueJay]

Damn, can't get the .gif to work. Oh well......

I thought this was all a waste of your time!

[Damane]

Why the opposition? If you don't like the content, you don't have to participate. Expanding VW helps enrich the game.

I can understand frustration with low drop rates, but without them, the content would stagnate too quickly. Expansion would also help quell people's worries with Empyrean upgrades as well as introduce more sources for crafting materials and other miscellaneous items. Voidwatch had a huge impact on the game when it was first introduced, and would still have a significant impact if it were to be rejuvenated.

drop rates in voidwatch are/were/allways will be ass. so no thx, never again back to that shithole. VW can die seriously.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

drop rates in voidwatch are/were/allways will be ass. so no thx, never again back to that shithole. VW can die seriously.

Just don't do it if you don't like it!

[Demon6324236]

No one wants content added that nearly no one wants to do just so they will feel obligated to go do it!

[Ophannus]

Drop rates in VW were fair. You could pop VWNMs an infinite times per day and have a 1-10% chance at a r/ex drop depending on the drop. Compared to 7 years ago where you have a 0-5% chance at claiming Nidhogg(1st barrier), every 3-5 days(2nd barrier) and if you did kill it, it has a 0-15%(3rd barrier) chance at dropping what you want, then finally if you:
a) It was the right day
b) Your LS claimed it
c) You killed it
d) It dropped what you want
e) It was your turn to lot/had points to lot it
f) You won the lot

then it was yours.

In VW you get your personal pool so you can eliminate a,b,d,f. I'd rather be able to pop and claim Akvan 80 times a day than have to wait 5 days at a CHANCE to claim King Behemoth and then ANOTHER CHANCE it might drop then ANOTHER chance that i'd have the standing to lot in my LS.

[Demon6324236]

If your saying VW was better than old school HNMs, yes, it was, but was it good content and the drop rates 'fair'... no.

[Kafrein]

While I agree that just because some don't like it, that's not a reason not to continue it... I do feel that the devs time should be focused more on other areas of the game, for the time being. It seems to me that there's less in each update these days, and things that have been promised a long time ago are getting delayed. Priority needs to be placed on more important things.

I think it would be more beneficial for enriching the game to focus more on the Seekers of Adoulin expansion, and general content for the game. It seems like they're putting a lot of work into every aspect of this expansion, which we haven't really seen since Wings of the Goddess. Things like Voidwatch and Abyssea were more designed to keep the game alive than anything.

Voidwatch is fairly specialist, and the story offered is pretty uneventful. Not to mention it's not terribly popular amongst hardcore players, for the sheer fact that the rewards are so sparse. I think that challenging and fun battles can be offered through other areas of the game as well, or new content. New content is always more valuable than continuing existing content that has been 'finished' for quite some time, surely?