What is the best DD?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Not even as a Taru DD does almost anything short of glavoid's Disgorge with no one else in range or an Unresisted tornado II+TP move from Caraboose (and this was before I got several merit abyssites) one shot me so what exactly is one-shotting him now?

[Invasion]

We've got GimpChan and someone with multiple personality disorder in here?! If I'm ever feeling down I know I can count of these forums for a great source of 'lulz'.

That is all.

P.S Haste takes time to proc.

[Ilax]

Don't forget that evil cactus in altepa spamming his needle lol [that was so epic fight, god thanks i am done with his atma =)]

[Henihhi]

LMFAO! I almost forgot about the "haste takes time to proc" thread. Idiocy abounds!

[Invasion]

But it does!

/grin

[MarkovChain]

Says the guy who refuses to believe Briareus can be done with less than 6 people.

Oh Pchan, you so funny.

I wonder where where I said that ; I do remember saying "inbefore 6 people" answering to someone opposing the cure spam argument to my stun lock argument. This mob is like the easiest NM of all.


Btw, congratulations for having a weapon that was released in september, you are awesome. Apparently you are the one having trouble killing NMs in abyssea, please tell us which it is ?

So which do you find hard ? Isgebind or dragua ? 15/75 after 4 months ? I think you are not in position to give advices.

I wonder how I would fight a mob that spams blizzaga4, blizzard5, paralyga or stonega4, stone 5,slowga ...etc. Wait I think I know. Complete proof that your mdt set is useless.

nvm ; seeing as you are on monk on FFXIAH my bet is you seek verethragna. Dragua is the fastest NM to farm on the path.

[Greatguardian]

I wonder where where I said that ; I do remember saying "inbefore 6 people" answering to someone opposing the cure spam argument to my stun lock argument. This mob is like the easiest NM of all.


Btw, congratulations for having a weapon that was released in september, you are awesome. Apparently you are the one having trouble killing NMs in abyssea, please tell us which it is ?

So which do you find hard ? Isgebind or dragua ? 15/75 after 4 months ? I think you are not in position to give advices.

I wonder how I would fight a mob that spams blizzaga4, blizzard5, paralyga or stonega4, stone 5,slowga ...etc. Wait I think I know. Complete proof that your mdt set is useless.

Oh you're just the cutest bundle of joy. Dragua is easy, I'm just lazy. If you really want to advocate using Earth resist atmas for Dragua, be my guest. I can't imagine even these boards are frequented by people dumb enough to buy that. If they are, serves them right for listening to Pchan.

[Henihhi]

LMFAO- If you find any of those wyrms hard please just /delete your toon now. The only time there is any kind of issue on either is when retarded melee wanna run in and stand there eating damage. A tank and a whm can easily take down either, same with just about anything in abyssea. Its when you add the mentally challenged to the group that things get rough.

[Tamoa]

Sooo..... speaking of -MDT gear/magic evasion gear/element resist gear - what would you all use tanking this guy in a lowman group?:

Azdaja
Job: Black Mage
Family: Wyrms

Special Abilities:
* Sable Breath - Deals conal darkness damage. Damage reduced by standing to the sides.
* Spike Flail - Deals extreme damage in a threefold attack to targets behind the user, but with cruor buffs you can easily survive it (~1.5k damage).
* Cyclone Wing - Deals 30' AoE darkness damage. Additional effect: Sleep. Duration around 60 seconds.
* Baleful Roar - AoE full dispel that removes all Atma and all buffs including food. Also Hate Reset. Only seems to use this move below 50%? If you are outside 20' your buffs will not be stolen, however if you are the target of the tp move your atma will be removed no matter how far away you are.
* Infinite Terror - AoE Terror 20'. Seems to last between 10-30 seconds and may possibly break upon taking damage.

Magical Qualities:
* Casts Sleepga II, Dispel, Addle, Stonega IV, Aeroga IV, Thundaga IV, Blizzaga IV, Firaga IV, Stun, Bindga, Graviga, Silencega, and Breakga.
* All spells can be AoE, but not always, including Dispel, Drain, Aspir, Stun, and Addle.
* Dispel will remove all cruor buffs even if the spell doesn't land on the target or is out of range.





(really just curious what Pchan would chose to do if he was tanking this)

[MarkovChain]

Oh you're just the cutest bundle of joy. Dragua is easy, I'm just lazy. If you really want to advocate using Earth resist atmas for Dragua, be my guest. I can't imagine even these boards are frequented by people dumb enough to buy that. If they are, serves them right for listening to Pchan.

Lol, I dont buy the lazy argument from someone that makes it a point imposing his point if view in every thread and that cares enough to post his achievements is his sig. I think its just that. Semi attempt to sound elitist when the discussion revolves around level 85 NMs and when it comes to level 95 ones, you are lazy. To answer the previous poster, what is wrong with macroing meva gear when having the wyrm cast on you ? Are you one of those guys that explained us for 5 pages that taking 50% of the damage is better that taking 20% ?

[Henihhi]

As far as the azjada question, i have 4 manned this- mnk, whm <me> thf and rdm. Thf and rdm were only there for procs. Easily duoed if the whm is smart enough to carry poison pots<which i always have echoes,poisons, and holy waters on hand> Most abyssea nms are lol at best. The nmk <or thf or war or w/e job we are duoing on any given day> even without a md meva mresist barely takes damage at all regardless. He goes straight dd atmas, i go whm/rdm pop an aquaveil and phalanx in the off chance i pull hate and i cure bomb my little heart out. I have yet to find a mob there that can one shot me on whm, let alone oneshot one of my dds.

[Greatguardian]

Lol, I dont buy the lazy argument from someone that makes it a point imposing his point if view in every thread and that cares enough to post his achievements is his sig. I think its just that. Semi attempt to sound elitist when the discussion revolves around level 95 NMs and when it comes to level 95 ones, you are lazy. To answer the previous poster, what is wrong with macroing meva gear when having the wyrm cast on you ? Are you one of those guys that explained us for 5 pages that taking 50% of the damage is better that taking 20% ?

My sig is a joke :). I am lazy, in a nutshell. I've only bothered to work on my 90 Vereth for about 90 minutes on one of my 3 day weekends a while back. Mostly it's the fact that I've been helping other friends finish their Almaces and Masamunes. I'm not one for excuses though, so I'll readily admit I've been lazy about it. I'd rather be lazy than, well, be Pchan :)

I think Tamoa was wondering where the hell you were going to get Dark resist gear, or how you would carry MEva sets for all 5 of those elements without gimping up your normal gear. This is especially true if you bring Resist atmas into the picture, seeing as you would have to pick 1 or 2 elements at most. I doubt her or anyone else was expecting a serious response from you though. Pretty much the entire FFXI endgame community has learned better.

[Tamoa]

As far as the azjada question, i have 4 manned this- mnk, whm <me> thf and rdm. Thf and rdm were only there for procs. Easily duoed if the whm is smart enough to carry poison pots<which i always have echoes,poisons, and holy waters on hand> Most abyssea nms are lol at best. The nmk <or thf or war or w/e job we are duoing on any given day> even without a md meva mresist barely takes damage at all regardless. He goes straight dd atmas, i go whm/rdm pop an aquaveil and phalanx in the off chance i pull hate and i cure bomb my little heart out. I have yet to find a mob there that can one shot me on whm, let alone oneshot one of my dds.

Yeah it was more of a question to anyone advocating separate elemental resistance gearsets, and was the only NM I could think of at the time that casts different high tier ele spells etc. By all means, I wasn't saying Azdaja can oneshot you. However - Glavoid can! :P

[Neisan_Quetz]

Lol, I dont buy the lazy argument from someone that makes it a point imposing his point if view in every thread and that cares enough to post his achievements is his sig. I think its just that. Semi attempt to sound elitist when the discussion revolves around level 95 NMs and when it comes to level 95 ones, you are lazy. To answer the previous poster, what is wrong with macroing meva gear when having the wyrm cast on you ? Are you one of those guys that explained us for 5 pages that taking 50% of the damage is better that taking 20% ?

Because you can have 4 barspells/8 carols up at once (in the case of Azdaja, and there's no light/dark based barspell).


So Pchan,
basically what youre saying is that my MDT set with bar spells reduces damage to
67%*0.5 = 33.5%?

OR
I can carry around 4 pieces of gear for each element to resist magic down to taking 14%?
lets see, 6 elements, 4 pieces of gear, 20 EQ slots? well I guess we subtract earrings for half of it, since theres 2 elements on each earring, so 16 spots? 14 spots?

THEN since theres no light/dark bar spells you would have to carry around your MDT set anyway for those? or another 10 pieces of gear to have enough to resist them?

This is assuming of course your math is anywhere near correct. I think I'll just stick with my 4 pieces of gear I require beyond my normal DR gear to cap MDR, instead of 4 for each element+whatever for light/dark, only taking 33.5% of the damage is good enough for me, I dual box my own whm after all, and 15% isn't really all that much.

Still waiting on your answer to this.

[wish12oz]

So Pchan,
basically what youre saying is that my MDT set with bar spells reduces damage to
67%*0.5 = 33.5%?

OR
I can carry around 4 pieces of gear for each element to resist magic down to taking 14%?
lets see, 6 elements, 4 pieces of gear, 20 EQ slots? well I guess we subtract earrings for half of it, since theres 2 elements on each earring, so 16 spots? 14 spots?

THEN since theres no light/dark bar spells you would have to carry around your MDT set anyway for those? or another 10 pieces of gear to have enough to resist them?

This is assuming of course your math is anywhere near correct. I think I'll just stick with my 4 pieces of gear I require beyond my normal DR gear to cap MDR, instead of 4 for each element+whatever for light/dark, only taking 33.5% of the damage is good enough for me, I dual box my own whm after all, and 15% isn't really all that much.

Where's Pchan!?
He totally never answered my question! And Im bored, so here's a bump so hopefully he see's it.

But seriously, people said it in this thread a lot, about someone doing math that mythic drg was better then ukon war, where is this math located at? Can someone link me please.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Melee rdm for sure.. i mean you're a mage.. and can use magic and weapons at the same time !!!!

thats gotta be like double w/e damage any other job can do ;o

[katz]

This is is impossible to answer because it depends on your playing style. If you think 1hp is low and run away then your not going to be much good at anything. If you look after your own healing or have a healer support you then again it is different. If you only want to do as much damage as you can and ignore your health then you are not going to last long. If you only look after your health and defense then you are not going to hit hard. Any job can be as good as you make it.

[Shakuzen]

yes rly. look http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/_hinata/dfgds.jpg
he stole my picture, and editted out my name.

It's definately possible, easily. If I can hit 4.1k with skewer...

[Anathiel]

Accordng to the 2004 brady games start guide, drk is the best DD.

[Gennadi]

I want to be the strongest DD there is. Please tell me what job is strongest and why so I can be the best DD.

<<<------- just look at my handsome baldness and you will see who the best dd really is.

[MarkovChain]

I want to be the strongest DD there is. Please tell me what job is strongest and why so I can be the best DD.

MNK. Beside double mache hasso spamming ws 2h-handed WARZZZZ, which can never keep this up because abyseahaha is so much fail (you must not kill with ruby bro), but in this case mnk is still best obviously, because of DOT.

[noodles355]

It's BRD singing bieber songs because it kills everyone within earshot.これ.
でも、ジャスティンビーバーがすきです。＿。ごめん！！！

[scaevola]

WHAT HAS TWO THUMBS AND IS THE BEST DD

[Rustic]

WHAT HAS TWO THUMBS AND IS THE BEST DD

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/24/article-2313827-1973EBB5000005DC-365_306x608.jpg

Spidderman, of course.

/thread

[Anjou]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/24/article-2313827-1973EBB5000005DC-365_306x608.jpg

Spidderman, of course.

/thread

You make me proud boy.

[Umichi]

If you're compairing perfectly geared max level jobs with equal buffs and no consideration for how quick they die. Great axe war/sam with hasso up will out damage everything else.

coming from this mithra and my own opinion I concur... If you want the best damaging job in the game war has and is by far the best DD in the game

[Daemon]

Ask this guy maybe he can tell you.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111216224117/ffxi/images/5/5e/Atori-Tutori_%3F%3F%3F.jpg

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Atori-Tutori_%3F%3F%3F

[Rustic]

Ask this guy maybe he can tell you.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Atori-Tutori_%3F%3F%3F

...and he isn't wearing any pants. (Well, that's taru underpants.)

That's how you know he's bad-ass. He will whup you...pantsless.

[Afania]

Best DD is blue mage, they can turn into soulflayers and eat kids :)