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Frodnon
08-04-2013, 02:55 AM
Please let us list Dynamis coin, Limbus ancient beastcoin and Alexandrite On auction house please.

Honestly there shouldn't be a reason why anything that is bazaarable is not auctionhouse-able including sky and sea god pops, seal fragments, abjuration tatters, abjhallis honors, etc. the list is pretty extensive.

Rift sand.. heavy metal plates... riftcinder.. etc.

Danita
08-05-2013, 03:37 AM
That would be an excellent quality of life improvement with zero detrimental effect on game-play. The only argument against it that I can see is that SE's stats of how many people are logged in at any one time would likely decline, since many mules exist solely for this purpose. It would help the player, but it might hurt the company's inflated numbers.

Kristal
08-05-2013, 08:08 AM
At first glance it might look like a good idea, but if you actually start to think about it you can see why SE doesn't put 100-stackable currencies on the AH.

Demon6324236
08-05-2013, 10:24 AM
At first glance it might look like a good idea, but if you actually start to think about it you can see why SE doesn't put 100-stackable currencies on the AH.I thought about it. Large supply means no chance of monopoly, prices would be easier to set for people as well as stop over/under pricing, it would cut out the ability for people to become victims of scammers setting prices at 10x or 100x norm... The only thing I could think of that would be potentially bad is if the supply would in some way put to much strain on the server, that's about it, anything else I can come up with seems to be a good thing in all honesty.

Kristal
08-05-2013, 06:10 PM
I thought about it. Large supply means no chance of monopoly, prices would be easier to set for people as well as stop over/under pricing, it would cut out the ability for people to become victims of scammers setting prices at 10x or 100x norm... The only thing I could think of that would be potentially bad is if the supply would in some way put to much strain on the server, that's about it, anything else I can come up with seems to be a good thing in all honesty.

This shows you haven't thought it through at all. Please explain how buying or selling 45 coins is going to work on the AH. AH is subject to price fixing, undercutting, taxes, misbuys, etc.

Bazaars can sell in any quantity with a shop inventory of 80 slots, with free price comparison regulating the price per unit, and you can keep selling them as long as you are online. AH can only sell 1's and 99's, at most 7 slots that compete with everything else you want to sell AND only last 3 days AND cost money each time to use, you can bid 100x for a single currency, which tend to be overpriced due to taxes and high cost/unit/time of putting them up.

Technically it's no problem to put them on the AH, but bazaars are simply the best way to sell them at this point.

Demon6324236
08-05-2013, 06:22 PM
This shows you haven't thought it through at all. Please explain how buying or selling 45 coins is going to work on the AH. AH is subject to price fixing, undercutting, taxes, misbuys, etc.Bazaars are not? People can sell in stacks, its not that hard, most people who do Dynamis do it more than simply 1 or 2 runs, and most of the time would simply finish their current stack in no time. Also, nothing is stopping people from selling the currency they have in their bazaar either, it just would not be the only option for people as it is now.


Bazaars can sell in any quantity with a shop inventory of 80 slots, with free price comparison regulating the price per unit, and you can keep selling them as long as you are online. AH can only sell 1's and 99's, at most 7 slots that compete with everything else you want to sell AND only last 3 days AND cost money each time to use, you can bid 100x for a single currency, which tend to be overpriced due to taxes and high cost/unit/time of putting them up.Again, it would be an option for people to use, not a forced method of selling currency. The fact its only 1 or 99 is solved by putting it in your bazaar, the fact you have only 7 slots is again, solved by bazaar. The fact you pay taxes and its only up for 3 days are the prices you pay for likely selling your currency faster, unless people massively undercut you then chances are you will have your currency sold by the third day because of the first come first serve system of the AH, where the first put up at the same price as another is the one sold between the two. The fact it competes with other items you might put up is again, one of the reasons you can use your bazaar. So far as bidding 100x the amount for currency. What is more likely, to bid 100x on the AH, or buy currency that is put at a deceptive price from a bazaar? In my opinion, the latter, as the former has not only a slower pace to it(not having to rush to buy a great deal before others find it and buy it first) but also a shown log of who it was bought from, and in this case, it could very easily be bought by an honest person. If you buy currency for a scam price from a bazaar, what chance is there the person who did it will give you your money back? By the same token, what are the chances that a person on the AH will be fair and honest about it? In my opinion, again, the AH wins in this respect.


Technically it's no problem to put them on the AH, but bazaars are simply the best way to sell them at this point.So why not simply open the AH as an option?

Surely there are more items than simply this to add as well. All NM pop items come to mind, sky, sea, behe, so on, all of these have no reason to not be on AH.

Kristal
08-05-2013, 07:57 PM
What is more likely, to bid 100x on the AH, or buy currency that is put at a deceptive price from a bazaar? In my opinion, the latter

100x on AH, because you make a selection once right at the start and then waltz through the same confirmation boxes you have waltzed through a million times already. It happens every day.
Someone putting up a stack of items in their bazaar for the stack price is also a common error, but one that is very obvious in the bazaar list.
What is more likely: You paying 1.000.000 for a single dyna coin on AH, or you paying 990.000.000 million for a stack of them? And yes, I know people have put up singles for the price of 100s with the intend of tricking people into only watching the price, but I can do that same trick with bone chip priced as currency as well.


So why not simply open the AH as an option?

Because limited usage and complications do not make it worth the effort?

Umichi
08-06-2013, 12:15 AM
While Id enjoy buying currencies off of the AH I do not buy in quantities of 1 or 100 when it comes to singles unless someone in a bazaar has 100. usually i buy 15-27 at a time... AH would be a very tedious process in doing this.. It limits my options.

detlef
08-06-2013, 04:06 AM
Sounds bottable.

Rustic
08-06-2013, 04:44 AM
The solution to this could be simple as well. Put a "bundle" item in, much like we do with quiverable or pouchable ammo.

So, you could have 1-currency sales, 99-currency sales, or (say) "a pouch of ancient currency" that is a 10-currency item when used. Or a "large pouch of ancient currency" that's 50. Or both. Slot them in as a separate category and you're good to go.

Kristal
08-07-2013, 10:55 PM
The solution to this could be simple as well. Put a "bundle" item in, much like we do with quiverable or pouchable ammo.

So, you could have 1-currency sales, 99-currency sales, or (say) "a pouch of ancient currency" that is a 10-currency item when used. Or a "large pouch of ancient currency" that's 50. Or both. Slot them in as a separate category and you're good to go.

That's not a solution but a work-around... an FFXIV style retainer would be more usefull (do they still have those in ARR?)

Rustic
08-08-2013, 01:13 AM
That's not a solution but a work-around... an FFXIV style retainer would be more usefull (do they still have those in ARR?)

Gawd, I hope not. I -hated- those things. Bazaars are quite enough without people being able to leave vendors around littering zones like trash.

Just give them an AH category, let us stack the things as above, and the problem is solved in a fashion that doesn't involve convoluted new coding or the like.

Kristal
08-13-2013, 05:29 PM
Gawd, I hope not. I -hated- those things. Bazaars are quite enough without people being able to leave vendors around littering zones like trash.

Just give them an AH category, let us stack the things as above, and the problem is solved in a fashion that doesn't involve convoluted new coding or the like.

Other then the convoluted new coding needed to support currency conversions? Last time they did that, players were buying 1k gil items for 70 million worth of dynamis currency...

Rustic
08-15-2013, 12:38 AM
Other then the convoluted new coding needed to support currency conversions? Last time they did that, players were buying 1k gil items for 70 million worth of dynamis currency...

We're talking something that's the equivalent of a quiver here. I'm sure they can screw it up, but really?