Hurkan battle ripoff

[radicaldreamer]

Ok so I entered wildskeeper reive against the new NM "Yumcax" (tree in Yorcia Weald), and he was at 80%-ish so I worked my hardest at geomancing and debuffing him to death with everyone else, and all I got was a Petrified Log and cleared key item! I have seriously been ripped off of my 65K bayld. :mad:

what happened to these items?:


Tamaxchi
Ixtab
Pahtli Cape
Ocachi Gorget
Buremte Hat
Buremte Gloves

Lots of stuff I won't use but one or two that I was interested in, and got a log. :(

[Creelo]

Don't worry, you would've only gotten a Gorget/Cape anyways like 85% of the rest of the players around you.

Then you would do the fight again, and just get another Gorget/Cape. Rinse and repeat.



Seriously SE, why the hell did you feel the need to incorporate VW-esque drop rates for these new Wildskeeper fights? Because it's absolute bullshit. I already know players who have done Hurkan 5-6 times and still haven't gotten anything other than that Bullet/Grip. Also it seems players who enter the arena when the boss is under 50% health don't receive proper evaluations or ANY rewards. While I like the idea of pushing players to try to enter the arena sooner rather than later (a plague of all the past Wildskeeper reives), you're still just ripping unsuspecting players off and pushing away reinforcements.

The drop system is just complete, utter bullshit. Depending on people's interest, they may only have 1-2 pieces they really want from a Wildskeeper, similar to the last 3 Wildskeepers. The last 3 Wildskeepers though had loot pools that only had 4-5 items in them and each had an even chance of dropping. It worked out fine for the most part (granted there's still horror stories of never getting that one specific drop you want).

But Yumcax and Hurkan have had two accessories added to their loot pools. These accessories, while not terrible, really don't compare to the equipment/weapons and they drop far far far far far too commonly.


I'm sorry, Idk what to really say since I'm just venting. Can we just have Delve II already? You see, one of the main reasons why Delve was so praised was that players could see the light at the end of the tunnel; they could see their rewards, not being limited by the damn random number generator. In Delve, effort was rewarded and it was purely awesome. In these new Wildskeeper reives, effort is hardly rewarded. You can be working your ass off, you may not even be receiving evaluations anymore (they seem to cap at 25k Bayld total in the new Wildskeepers, which is also dumb), yet the person hiding in the corner who's done hardly anything but stand around the entire fight gets the equipment you're after.

It's VW all over again. And it sucks.

[Vivivivi]

I would have been well maybe not happy, I would have been okay with obtaining the bullet from Hurkan... but I got the grip. After hours of doing reieves in the same zone with the hopes of obtaining a cape. I usually try to look on the bright side of things but it's hard to find something positive out of this experience, because I was not able to say well at least I obtained bayld, because I left with less than I started, I didn't get any skillups, because you can't in any rieves... and I didn't get any exp because the amount I obtained cancelled out the amount I lost. While the naakul fight itself was pretty fun, the wall bashing to get there outweighs the battle itself :/

Edit: I wrote this before I discovered the "order up" quest, which I think is a great idea. I was very happy to discover I could select the one item I really wanted from the first 3 Naakul's. It will be a tough choice after I beat the 5th one which to pick from the most recent two.

[radicaldreamer]

I hope there will be some good reason to have the crest key items at least.

[Splinters]

Lakshimi 6pm EST, Saturday 13th of July:

We did this fight last night, lasted 100 minutes. Thanks to event organizers and the nice job they did in coordinating 150 players, most of us who had not done this run before. Fight was flawless, had 3 deaths the entire fight and at the end I got the scythe I was hoping for. Wish I knew your names to thank you individually.

* Thank you, Fredward and team.

[dasva]

Yeah I just did 3 Hurkaans with me and my mule. Fought each one from 100% down to dead no dcs. All I have to show for it is grip on my main and bullet on my mule. Is this a glitch or something because that's kinda messed up

[Helldemon]

I hope there will be some good reason to have the crest key items at least.

There is, having all 3 older KI's lets you pick a single item that drops from the old Naakual's and having both newer KI's lets you pick a single item from Hurkan or Yumcax. The quest is bugged for some(including me) depending on where you are in certain quests but SE and the Dev's are aware of the bug.

[RalphTheGalka]

Just fought Hurkan tonight on both of my chars and got 36 xp/bayld and no reward other than KI. Something's definitely up with this fight.

[Demon6324236]

There is, having all 3 older KI's lets you pick a single item that drops from the old Naakual's and having both newer KI's lets you pick a single item from Hurkan or Yumcax. The quest is bugged for some(including me) depending on where you are in certain quests but SE and the Dev's are aware of the bug.There is? O.o

[Futan]

Just got nothing but a Darksteel Ore from Hurkan. :\ Did it once before but sent the Bullet I got to a mule. So it wasn't the same thing dropping that caused me to get nothing...

[Gippo]

There is? O.o

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Order_Up

Do this quest and yeah, pick an item , but you have to have completed each of the 3 original WK reives first.

[Demon6324236]

1 time thing or~? :x

[Tsol]

It's a one time thing that you receive when you talk the mithra NPC in the memorial library. And after you have all 5 naakual KI's, you talk to the NPC again for another KI which reduces XP loss in Reives.

[Justyn]

Can we just have the two KI from new wild skeeper to pick the new drops? Or do we need all 5? And where is the library? Thanks for your help

[mistmonster]

Went into Hurkan when he was about 45%. I could not get evaluations no matter what I did (one really tiny one in the beginning) so 60k Bayld and 2 hours of my time for nothing.

Will some one please let us know why this is happening? I'm afraid to go to Wildskeeper Rieves now.

[Umichi]

The better lewt has a higher percentile drop rate frpom beating the boss in the fractures i do believe... If its a community event like wildskeepers rieves are, why would they give you the most powerful items all the time if you get the KI for farming plasm for it?

[Demon6324236]

The better lewt has a higher percentile drop rate frpom beating the boss in the fractures i do believe... If its a community event like wildskeepers rieves are, why would they give you the most powerful items all the time if you get the KI for farming plasm for it?What are you talking about?

[RalphTheGalka]

Just to throw a little more detail, I did 3 wildskeeper reives this weekend, each with 2 characters. This was the only battle that glitched, and it was glitched for both chars.

However, both chars got the exact same loot rewards from the other 2 battles which just seems odd. Unless the neck from the tree and the dagger from the shark are the common "Ha! Ha!" rewards.

[Creelo]

Can we just have the two KI from new wild skeeper to pick the new drops? Or do we need all 5? And where is the library? Thanks for your help

You need all 5.

It's a really awesome quest; however, I really hope that it could be repeatable somehow. Once per conquest tally I think would be great. If this quest were repeatable, there would be a huge incentive for players to go back and kill all the three old Naakuals again, which in turn would help out new players and probably colonization efforts somewhat in the old zones too.

It's wishful thinking but makes sense to me. It'd be similar to Delve in that you can get rewards from killing the NMs but can also choose/buy your reward from an NPC after killing said NM.

Edit: The Library is right by the Scout's coalition in Eastern Adoulin. You need the Library Card KI, which you can buy from the galka inside the Scout's Coalition for 1000 Bayld. Once inside you need to talk to a mithra named Reja somethin and complete her quest. There's a link at the top of this page for the quest I believe.

[Justyn]

Thank you ^^

[radicaldreamer]

There is, having all 3 older KI's lets you pick a single item that drops from the old Naakual's and having both newer KI's lets you pick a single item from Hurkan or Yumcax. The quest is bugged for some(including me) depending on where you are in certain quests but SE and the Dev's are aware of the bug.

I am stuck in that bug as well, with the library quest. >_< Good to know what the key items are for though, thanks.

[Vivivivi]

You need all 5.

It's a really awesome quest; however, I really hope that it could be repeatable somehow. Once per conquest tally I think would be great. If this quest were repeatable, there would be a huge incentive for players to go back and kill all the three old Naakuals again, which in turn would help out new players and probably colonization efforts somewhat in the old zones too.

It's wishful thinking but makes sense to me. It'd be similar to Delve in that you can get rewards from killing the NMs but can also choose/buy your reward from an NPC after killing said NM.

Edit: The Library is right by the Scout's coalition in Eastern Adoulin. You need the Library Card KI, which you can buy from the galka inside the Scout's Coalition for 1000 Bayld. Once inside you need to talk to a mithra named Reja somethin and complete her quest. There's a link at the top of this page for the quest I believe.

+1
Agreed, it still takes a lot of time to get enough bayld to fight all of each tier over again, but with the ability to select 1 reward each time you clear a set of two or three naakuls, would both make it worthwhile to repeat and also help people who need their first win.

[Okipuit]

The development team is currently investigating the issue reported where items are not dropping. Once we have some information to share we'll be sure to let you know. We appreciate your patience.

[detlef]

Thanks for the heads up.

If this is intentional to prevent people from joining at 10% and getting drops, there should at least be a warning so you don't expend your entry key item needlessly, or you shouldn't be allowed to enter at all. If it is unintentional then thanks for looking into it.

[HimuraKenshyn]

I am stuck in that bug as well, with the library quest. >_< Good to know what the key items are for though, thanks.

For some reason I am stuck with jozhud nor palmeo talking to me for the quest >.> I don't have the other quests even started that interfere with this one order up ><;; my mules got the right dialog all I get from jozhud is something about mawgwet's and palemo comments about scouts and stealth ugh......

I got ziltch from the harkun fight enter at 39% and couldn't get xp or bayld no matter what just 55k * 3 toons down the drain.....

[Demon6324236]

The development team is currently investigating the issue reported where items are not dropping. Once we have some information to share we'll be sure to let you know. We appreciate your patience.Thank you for responding. If I might ask, since this is an issue which has effected many people, and the cost of which one must pay to enter these events is worth a nice bit of work, will any compensation be given to players? I understand you may not give a for of compensation to individual players who ask and such, but a form of compensation to players I think would go a long way in making players happy, rather than leaving us feel ripped off from such an occurrence, especially when it was an error many of us walked into unknowingly.

[Raksha]

The development team is currently investigating the issue reported where items are not dropping. Once we have some information to share we'll be sure to let you know. We appreciate your patience.


Can I contact a GM in-game and get a bayld refund?

[Milva]

The development team is currently investigating the issue reported where items are not dropping. Once we have some information to share we'll be sure to let you know. We appreciate your patience.
Thank you for your helpful input, but what are people supposed to do whilst you're investigating?

[Hapa]

I entered the fight @ 99% hp as a PLD tanked thw whole fight down, got nothing at all not even bayld return. I contacted a GM they said they won't issue any return of bayld or items at all because it is against policy; but he DID confirm it was a glitch in the game and I did nothing wrong......

Later I received an email from SE stating

"Thank you for contacting the SQUARE ENIX Support Center.
This email has been sent to notify you that your ticket was received and will be responded to within 2 business days (48 hours) of receipt.

We appreciate your patience and apologize for the delay in responding to your ticket directly."


It has been over 3 days since I have gotten that email. (3x24=72? =/=48)

To Raksha, No, like said above the GM will do nothing, apparently they are of no use at all.

Earlier today I spoke with customer support and they said they can do nothing about the issue contact a GM in game to check on the status.

I sent a message to the GM help desk at 1700 my time. it is now 2149 and still no response.

SE seems to just be ignoring people with this issue now.

[raps1355]

This was clearly intended for those that rush in and blow their bayld. They then expect them to farm like everyone else for weeks on end.

[woie]

so on my way to wildskeeper and my last few empty inventory spaces filled up with crystals from stuff ppl where killing on the way annnnd no loot, my own fault i know but still kinda annoying, best 95k bayld ever

[Emitremmus]

Can I contact a GM in-game and get a bayld refund?

Heck no you can't.

I've lost my Wildskeeper Reive status after DC'ing during Hurkan (Mind you I'm very casual and it took me quite some time to gather 75k bayld), and could not log back in until the next day. When I WAS able to log in, I stayed in the battle area for Hurkan for 2 days (not literal play time, but when I COULD log in) while waiting on a GM to respond to me, thinking that since I didn't have the Key Item for winning, and that I had not left the area, it would provide enough evidence for me to get a refund. The GM told me he could absolutely NOT refund bayld or the key item, NOR could he simply just turn my reive status back on, as another Hurkan battle was going on when he finally showed up. He said that the engineering team could possibly help me out, but that it would be a matter of weeks to get it resolved. So I elected to zone out and try my best at gathering the bayld again.

Hope that helps...lol

[HimuraKenshyn]

Really really need to do something for peeps in the middle of wildskeepers that get shut down in the middle of for emergency maintenance. Not cool to lose out on all that bayld with no recourse....

[Camate]

Greetings,

We have confirmed this issue to be a bug and it has been addressed in the version update that took place this morning.

Below is a short message from Producer Akihiko Matsui in regards to this issue that was posted prior to the version update:



Matsui here.

We've confirmed a bug with the Wildskeeper Reives that were added in the July 9th version update.

The bug made it so that after the bosses' HP had been reduced past a certain point, evaluations would not take place. Due to this, when joining a Wildskeeper Reive midway, evaluations would not take place and you would not be able to receive rewards when the battle was completed. (As reported, some players were receiving only 36 Bayld.)

We are currently performing emergency maintenance to fix this bug.
Thank you all for the reports and I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

[Demon6324236]

We have confirmed this issue to be a bug and it has been addressed in the version update that took place this morning.Any compensation to the players who were effected by this error?

[larrymc]

Greetings,

We have confirmed this issue to be a bug and it has been addressed in the version update that took place this morning.

Below is a short message from Producer Akihiko Matsui in regards to this issue that was posted prior to the version update:

A double Bayld campaign for a week would be a nice way to make this up to the playerbase.

[Emitremmus]

I was thinking "Free Wildskeeper Reive KI weekend!"
Talk to Dimmian and recieve one of each Wildskeeper Reive key items for FREE! THAT'S RIGHT! FREE!
COME SEE US, RIGHT UP THE STREET BEHIND THE PEACEKEEPER'S COALITION, NEAR THE WACKY WAVING INFLATABLE ARM FLAILING TUBE MAN!

[tyrantsyn]

Any compensation to the players who were effected by this error?
Probably not.

[Babekeke]

Any compensation to the players who were effected by this error?

Just an apology as always.

[radicaldreamer]

While I'm glad to see they fixed it NOW, it still means that I wasted 65K bayld that I am far from earning back to fight the next new Wildskeeper NM. :'-(

[Kraggy]

Any compensation to the players who were effected by this error?
And just how do you propose they do that? Do you really think they log every PC taking part in every mob kill in the game?

Common sense needed here.

[Demon6324236]

And just how do you propose they do that? Do you really think they log every PC taking part in every mob kill in the game?

Common sense needed here.No, I think they probably can tell where a character is when its logged out, if that info is stored they simply need to look for characters who were within the area of the WK Reive when the maintenance happened and removed the players from the server. Besides that, they could go a more drastic and easier route which would be to simply say as compensation they will give us a free WK Reive KI of our choosing, free Bayld, or a double Bayld weekend kind of deal. There are many ways to go about it, but we have been having maintenance far to frequently since this update, and something should be done to make it up to the players for all of the errors they seem to have had with this content.

With people getting no drops, having maintenance kick people out of the Reives they are in, and so on, we should not have to deal with this much inaccuracy and downtime, it should have been tested & fixed before release. If the issue still was not found, there should have been a warning given about the bug as soon as it was reported via servermessage and on top of that they should have had some kind of special warning about the issue when a player is about to enter. Sort of like how Meebles was, anyone who remembers its release when people were getting kicked out at the start of a run should know what I mean, they made safety measures to try making it better, they even let us leave within the first 3rd of the run in order to get a refund on our KI incase someone got kicked out. I fail to understand why they can just make an error like this, leave it there a few days, then finally fix it, all the while screwing even more people than the bug itself did, and in the end give nothing back to the players they wronged...

[Babekeke]

The thing is, that the maint is almost always scheduled in such a way as to affect as few JP players as possible.

And feedback is only ever taken from JP players.

[HimuraKenshyn]

And just how do you propose they do that? Do you really think they log every PC taking part in every mob kill in the game?

Common sense needed here.

Actually they record more than you can ever believe for example the great many bans when peeps duped in Nyzul. If you note the amount of stats they keep on hand about the game is pretty normal for mmo's ie I tossed my x by accident and they can easily prove it or not. It just takes time and if they want to review it.

[dasva]

And just how do you propose they do that? Do you really think they log every PC taking part in every mob kill in the game?

Common sense needed here.

Actually I do. Given the fact that for the salvage bans they went back thru around 2 years of logs to check all the people that went into that zone and did the drop allaince for triple drops tricks to the point of banning people who only entered and then logged out waiting on a message to log in if the drop they were buying dropped and never logged back in or got the item... then yeah according to them they do actually keep logs of all this stuff.

[MiriOhki]

Evidently they haven't fixed the bug, or at least not on Hurkan anyway. Just ended up with the KI, the XP/Bayld, a pebble, and nothing else.

[Traxus]

Evidently they haven't fixed the bug, or at least not on Hurkan anyway. Just ended up with the KI, the XP/Bayld, a pebble, and nothing else.

It rolled you an item you already have.

[detlef]

He said he got the KI so it must have been his first win.

[dasva]

That rolling the same item is still dumb. 6 runs and me AND my mule only got grip and bullet