Will we gain an extra day of Login event since today the game has been down?

[Mysticales]

Question of the day, since it "seems" most of July 12th being down for maint, will we gain an extra day to login and not miss a days worth of logging in?

[Dragomair]

Actually, we would need about 3 more days added on.

1 login : 10 points
2 logins : 30?
I already have 2-3 logins and if it gets set back to 1, i have to get my second and so on over again.

[MDenham]

From the way things were worded on the page about the login event, it doesn't appear that the points are based on consecutive logins, just on the number of times logged in.

So - barring the system coming back up within the next 11 1/2 hours - it should just be one extra day needed.

[Dragomair]

From the way things were worded on the page about the login event, it doesn't appear that the points are based on consecutive logins, just on the number of times logged in.

So - barring the system coming back up within the next 11 1/2 hours - it should just be one extra day needed.

I was just assuming. Why give extra points per login if they weren't consecutive?
Also, quoting the page: "* Please be aware that these points are only valid for Repeat Login Campaign No. 1." 'Repeat logins" Not really sure if they mean repeat as in more than once in the duration or consecutive. Guess we'll find out tomorrow.

[MDenham]

From what's being said, apparently most of the game (aside from, oddly, Horlais Peak) will be back up in about half an hour.

[Dragomair]

From what's being said, apparently most of the game (aside from, oddly, Horlais Peak) will be back up in about half an hour.

Do you mind linking to where you read this?

[Anjou]

In terms of it: they mean that you'll receive an accumulating bonus each time you log in. If you log in for 5 days, you get 5 days worth of points. This meaning 5 straight days. However if you miss one of those days, you will still receive the accumulating bonus.

10
20
30
40
500

Now if we took out one of those logins, you do NOT lose your bonus, you instead keep accumulating. There's no consecutive log ins necessary. you can take a break one day, come back and get your 4th day in, then take the next day off, come back near the end and you'l have that 500 point bonus waiting for you.

[Dragomair]

In terms of it: they mean that you'll receive an accumulating bonus each time you log in. If you log in for 5 days, you get 5 days worth of points. This meaning 5 straight days. However if you miss one of those days, you will still receive the accumulating bonus.

10
20
30
40
500

Now if we took out one of those logins, you do NOT lose your bonus, you instead keep accumulating. There's no consecutive log ins necessary. you can take a break one day, come back and get your 4th day in, then take the next day off, come back near the end and you'l have that 500 point bonus waiting for you.

Thank you for explaining that. Is there a resource where you could post that so people like me could learn how the system works? The official post about the campaign wasn't very in-depth about how it worked.

[MDenham]

Here (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/35486-15-minutes-warning-on-maint?p=455042&viewfull=1#post455042) is the post that mangles - er, I mean, translates - what's going on. To summarize it in better English than the translation software:

Apparently some of the BCNMs in Horlais Peak were dropping unimplemented items in place of the correct drops; they've determined that none of the other BCNMs are doing this, and so everything except Horlais Peak will be back up in about 15 minutes. No ETA on when Horlais Peak will be fixed, however (though since it's just incorrect drop tables, that shouldn't take too much longer - maybe another hour or two?).

[svengalis]

Thank you for explaining that. Is there a resource where you could post that so people like me could learn how the system works? The official post about the campaign wasn't very in-depth about how it worked.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=1370952798110398958&p=1#20

[Kristal]

Do you mind linking to where you read this?

Game maintenance is posted (and updated) in the Maintenance section of this forum.


Thank you for explaining that. Is there a resource where you could post that so people like me could learn how the system works? The official post about the campaign wasn't very in-depth about how it worked.

There isn't much of a system. Just login each day. The only thing they didn't explain was that if you want the Chocobo Masque +1, you will need to log in all 20 days. Miss any one day and you are left with 3800 points total, and just shy of the 4000 you need.

[Mysticales]

Game maintenance is posted (and updated) in the Maintenance section of this forum.



There isn't much of a system. Just login each day. The only thing they didn't explain was that if you want the Chocobo Masque +1, you will need to log in all 20 days. Miss any one day and you are left with 3800 points total, and just shy of the 4000 you need.

Glad someone else noticed this heh. Fun enough making sure all my mules login too without missing any days.

[MDenham]

There's 21 days to this event, so you can miss one day without problems.

[Puck]

Bump. Still no official response for all the people that missed logging in due to surprise maintenance.

[Mysticales]

There's 21 days to this event, so you can miss one day without problems.

1 day lost by SE isnt the same as one day lost by us on mistake. Still crazy to do an event where it has no leeway at all, not even sure that chocobo helm +1 is worth it. Ark Scythe, sure. Wish couldve had the Ark Sword tho.

[Daemon]

1 day lost by SE isnt the same as one day lost by us on mistake. Still crazy to do an event where it has no leeway at all, not even sure that chocobo helm +1 is worth it. Ark Scythe, sure. Wish couldve had the Ark Sword tho.

Um.. technically you are not losing 1 day >.> unless the server is down a full 24 hours then yes. As long as you login which only takes 1 second. Then you still get credit for the event...

[Anjou]

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[Raksha]

Um.. technically you are not losing 1 day >.> unless the server is down a full 24 hours then yes. As long as you login which only takes 1 second. Then you still get credit for the event...


I'm glad you dont have a job or family and can log in 24hours a day, but not all of us can.

[Daemon]

I'm glad you dont have a job or family and can log in 24hours a day, but not all of us can.

What are you implying? Who said anything about having to play 24/7. And I do have a job. I'm not on FFXI everyday. In fact I'm barely even on the game.

All I said is that you only have to login in for 1 second to get credit for the Login Campaign Event. Seriously? How in my words did I ever imply that you need to be on 24/7??

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/campaign/11th/login01.html

And this is how drama starts. >.>

Reading the other posts before the one you are responding to might help you understand the conversation better.


1 day lost by SE isnt the same as one day lost by us on mistake. Still crazy to do an event where it has no leeway at all, not even sure that chocobo helm +1 is worth it. Ark Scythe, sure. Wish couldve had the Ark Sword tho.

My response was to this post commenting that you don't lose 1 full event day (Due to Maintenance/Emergency Maintenance) "unless" the server goes down for a full 24 hours.

Login Campaign Event only takes 1 second of your time to just log on and then log out.


Um.. technically you are not losing 1 day >.> unless the server is down a full 24 hours then yes. As long as you login which only takes 1 second. Then you still get credit for the event...

I still don't understand where I said in my comment that you need to be on 24/7...

I do believe my comment was addressing part of the question the original OP asked..

"Will we gain an extra day of Login Event since today the game has been down?"

[Anjou]

Yes Daemon but keep in mind that people live around the globe, sometimes they just can't log in due to reasons like sleep, work, etc. It's not fair that SE made an unscheduled maintenance during the time the majority of these players were unable to log in, and truth be told there should at least be -1- day added to make up for this.

[Daemon]

Yes Daemon but keep in mind that people live around the globe, sometimes they just can't log in due to reasons like sleep, work, etc. It's not fair that SE made an unscheduled maintenance during the time the majority of these players were unable to log in, and truth be told there should at least be -1- day added to make up for this.

Ok but that has nothing to do with my response. Unless SE took down final fantasy XI for one full 24 hour day, my reply was letting Mysticales know that him and anyone else only needs to log on for 1 second to get credit. Is it really that hard?

My other response was to Raksha who misunderstood my post and assumes I have no job,no family and play FFXI all day and night.

[Anjou]

Ok but that has nothing to do with my response. Unless SE took down final fantasy XI for one full 24 hour day, my reply was only letting Mysticales know that him and anyone else only needs to log on for 1 second to get credit. Is it really that hard?

My other response was to Raksha who misunderstood my post and assumes I have no job and no family and play FFXI all day and night.

Well let me make a small example scenario.

So the person in question is at work, working for an average 8 hour, from 9-5pm. They come home to find the game unavailable due to maintenance, and by that point they are already preparing for bed, and thus they go to bed. Now tell me: Is not being able to log during the ONLY time one is available because of a poorly scheduled maintenance fair to people with this kind of schedule? We're talking a full time job, 9-5 every day of the week, and this maintenance just so happened to hit that time where they -could- have logged in. Who in their right mind would -force- themselves to wait hours on end for the game to come back online, when they know they have to go back to work at 9am? So you mean to tell me that it's totally fine that people who have extra busy schedules get screwed out of this because they couldn't force their bodies to stay up during the entire maintenance to just log in for 1 minute and miss hours of sleep?

[Daemon]

Well let me make a small example scenario.

So the person in question is at work, working for an average 8 hour, from 9-5pm. They come home to find the game unavailable due to maintenance, and by that point they are already preparing for bed, and thus they go to bed. Now tell me: Is not being able to log during the ONLY time one is available because of a poorly scheduled maintenance fair to people with this kind of schedule? We're talking a full time job, 9-5 every day of the week, and this maintenance just so happened to hit that time where they -could- have logged in. Who in their right mind would -force- themselves to wait hours on end for the game to come back online, when they know they have to go back to work at 9am? So you mean to tell me that it's totally fine that people who have extra busy schedules get screwed out of this because they couldn't force their bodies to stay up during the entire maintenance to just log in for 1 minute and miss hours of sleep?

Ok clearly you too are misunderstanding me. Go back and read the previous posts. There is no need for you to explain this.

Seriously >.>

I honestly don't see how anyone got screwed. Obviously if you were logged in before maintenance you already got credit for that day. Therefore next day after 08:00AM PDT time you need to log back in once to gain credit.

Unless server was down a full 24 hours then yes I can see everyone losing 1 game event day.

9-5 job is an 8 hour shift. Even if you add 2 hour commute, that's 10 hours leaving you with still 14 hours in the day. To say that you cannot log on for 1 second doesn't make sense to me. That would be like saying you never have time to login.

[Daemon]

Unless the event requires every person to dedicate several hours where emergency maintenance made you lose all progress, the point of my post was to let those know that as long as you login once for 1 second, you can "STILL" gain the credit for that day. If you were logged in before maintenance obviously you already received credit.

Again if the server was down for more than 24 hours, then yes you did lose 1 game event day.

Whether people cannot login due to work, sleep, or any other reason has nothing to do with the point I was making. I'm just stating in order to get credit, the event does not require massive amounts of anyone's time.

Only 1 second. >.>

Honestly I don't know any other easier way to explain this.

* If you receive login points for a particular day and remain logged in until the next reset (8:00 a.m. (PDT)), you will not automatically receive login points for that next reset. You must log out first and then log back in to receive those points.
* Login point totals will be calculated separately for each character.

It's also been pointed out that you don't have to log out, as long as you zone into another area, you will still receive credit.

From 08:00AM PDT → 08:00AM PDT the following day as long as you login in once for 1 second, credit will be given.

[Daemon]

You only get 1 credit per day for logging in once. Point system can be found here.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/campaign/11th/login01.html

You do not get multiple points for logging in more than once.

[Daemon]

Although 21 days to participate in this event is extremely tight especially if it requires everyone 20 logins to get Chocobo mask+1. This would be a much more reasonable reason to ask the Dev team to give us extra days.

I'm surprised that SE is holding an event that's not even 1 full month long.

[Anjou]

You do realize you just quad posted right? The fact of the matter is that this isn't concerning the ENTIRE ingame population, enough with you whole "You are apparently misunderstanding me" bs because at this point I can hardly ever understand what you are saying. "It only takes 1 second" Tell them that while they are in the middle of their sleep cycle, you can't just wake up and then go ingame for a second, that's just unreasonable.

I am going to make this very clear so that you understand, and not try to weasel your way out with "You're clearly misunderstanding me"

1.) Servers go down during EU time where people are online most. People get off work, they are able to play FFXI.

2.) People are waiting and waiting and waiting, unexpected server maintenance that cut off many EU players from their points. NA and JP players were able to receive their points due to having time to get online before the surprise maintenance, but again the Eu sphere was not as fortunate.

3.) So EU players who are waiting finally go "You know they'll probably add another day, I'll just go to bed because I have work/things to do"

4.) They come online to find nothing different, and that's why they are complaining here Daemon.

It's not fair to people who were busy and were unable to get their points due to the maintenance being on such short notice and for being so long during that time frame, it cut quite a few people off.


Now do you understand?

[Daemon]

You do realize you just quad posted right? The fact of the matter is that this isn't concerning the ENTIRE ingame population, enough with you whole "You are apparently misunderstanding me" bs because at this point I can hardly ever understand what you are saying. "It only takes 1 second" Tell them that while they are in the middle of their sleep cycle, you can't just wake up and then go ingame for a second, that's just unreasonable.

I am going to make this very clear so that you understand, and not try to weasel your way out with "You're clearly misunderstanding me"

1.) Servers go down during EU time where people are online most. People get off work, they are able to play FFXI.

2.) People are waiting and waiting and waiting, unexpected server maintenance that cut off many EU players from their points. NA and JP players were able to receive their points due to having time to get online before the surprise maintenance, but again the Eu sphere was not as fortunate.

3.) So EU players who are waiting finally go "You know they'll probably add another day, I'll just go to bed because I have work/things to do"

4.) They come online to find nothing different, and that's why they are complaining here Daemon.

It's not fair to people who were busy and were unable to get their points due to the maintenance being on such short notice and for being so long during that time frame, it cut quite a few people off.


Now do you understand?

Do you understand that I'm not arguing with those asking for a free day? Are you seriously going to keep arguing with me? My comment was NOT about telling people they are wrong for asking compensation for the lost time. I simply commented that this quest only takes 1 second to do. Unlike other quests.

Again let me repeat myself. I simply "commented" that the quest only takes 1 second.

What part of this are you having confusion??

You seem to carry on with me for no reason as if you are trying to prove something to me when its unecessary and irrelevant. I know time zones differ.

A small comment added to help others turning into a multi page argument for no reason why?

[Daemon]

Please show me where ever did I say people don't deserve a free day and that SE should not award people for the downtime from maintenance. Then argue with me.

[Daemon]

If I say It only cost $1 to buy a Twinkie as long as you login to Twinkie.com and click Discount which only takes 1 second

I'm only telling you about it. What does time zones, sleep hours, work hours have anything to do with my comment??

[Raksha]

My point was that when I got home from work, the servers were down. I have to be at work pretty early on saturdays, so i didnt get very much sleep that night. I TECHNICALLY could've woken up earlier and logged in to get credit for that day, but when I went to sleep there was no indication if the maintenance was actually going to be over when i was to wake up the next morning. Even if I knew it WAS gonna be over when i woke up, I didnt feel that losing even more sleep was worth the points.

I dont think its reasonable for SE to ask people to give up precious minutes of sleep to get some points which frankly dont even matter that much, because of a bug that was caused by them, in a game which is supported by our subscription dollars.



Just because a day lasts 24 hours doesnt mean everyone has 24 hours to log in. If I can only log in for 3 hours a day, and theres a maintenance those 3 hours, i've effectively lost the whole day.

[Daemon]

My point was that when I got home from work, the servers were down. I have to be at work pretty early on saturdays, so i didnt get very much sleep that night. I TECHNICALLY could've woken up earlier and logged in to get credit for that day, but when I went to sleep there was no indication if the maintenance was actually going to be over when i was to wake up the next morning. Even if I knew it WAS gonna be over when i woke up, I didnt feel that losing even more sleep was worth the points.

I dont think its reasonable for SE to ask people to give up precious minutes of sleep to get some points which frankly dont even matter that much, because of a bug that was caused by them, in a game which is supported by our subscription dollars.



Just because a day lasts 24 hours doesnt mean everyone has 24 hours to log in. If I can only log in for 3 hours a day, and theres a maintenance those 3 hours, i've effectively lost the whole day.

I never disagreed with you or anyone else. But if you guys read carefully, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between shutting down the server 12 hours vs 24 Hours. I simply responded by saying TECHNICALLY 1 full game day wasnt lost. And then commented that you can gain credit for logging on for 1 second (intended for those who did not know.)

And never did I intend such a small remark to end up yet another novel series to hit the front page of a newspaper to becoming a daytime soap opera to breaking into Hollywood turned into a Movie with a sequel to a trilogy to end off as a "to be continued" ending...

Now had you both directed your concern to everyone else rather than single me out we wouldn't have carried the argument this far. Remember i'm on your side.