THE best Abbyssea alliance

[Kits]

Since I've been back, ALOT has changed. Seems like the old party structure is useless now. And im hearing about monks tanking??? what the hell is going on lol...

Anyways, once 11 gets rebooted, id like to know a little somethin somethin on how to form an abyssea alliance (what the main factors are [DD?]) I have no clue

[Cyx]

That would depend on what you were going after. You almost never need a full alliance to kill something in Abyssea. The only time I've ever really used an alliance in Abyssea is when I was :
A) doing an ls event, even though we didn't need an alliance
B) doing exp/te/dominion parties

If you are just going for exp treat it like a Dynamis alliance and you'll be fine.

[Alkalinehoe]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Abyssea
Pretty much all you need to know.

You don't need an alliance to get best exp, but, it is the best barring you don't have a lot of bad players in there.

Usually it goes like this:
1. Cap Azure light via killing mobs by magic spells (takes about 30 normal mobs, or 3 Ephemeral Murexes if you go to Scars zones)
2. Cap Pearl light via killing mobs by regular auto attack rounds (about 30 too, NMs usually give enhanced pearl lights)
After that, just kill as fast as you can so mobs can drop chests which will contain Time Extensions, additional experience points, crour, temp items, etc.

Most people like to also level ruby light (Physical WS kills) so that higher end ruby chests will give gold light, which gives raises the exp you get from monsters slightly.

[Kits]

Thanks for the help, Alkaline.....hoe?

[Nacht]

I've found that the biggest problem for pick ups is not enough pullers. And dumb ally leaders.

[Alkalinehoe]

Thanks for the help, Alkaline.....hoe?
You're welcome?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Even physical blue spells gets you azure.
Even magical blood pacts get you pearl.

[Kits]

You're welcome?

lol sorry, is it one word alkalinehoe, or alkaline hoe, both very completely different

[Flunklesnarkin]

The best abyssea alliance accomplishes what it set out to do

whether its exp or NM's

[Khajit]

Fell cleave style: Get some jobs with good aoe ws(decently geared ones. War and drk uses fell cleave, other jobs can use catasylsm or aeolian edge), a puller and a whm. Possibly add a smn to spam Alexander and a blu to help aoe. Everything else doesn't matter. Make sure they have proper atma.
"normal" style: Get a whm for each pt, brd is aight if you can find some, DD in all the other slots except for a few token azure lights jobs. In all honestly you don't need anything approaching an alliance but all but about 5 people at best are probably going to be gimps that are leeching off of the ones that actually know wtf they're doing.
Rdm,blu,blm,sch are the jobs that handle azure the easiest but as I said earlier most players suck so instead of just having a single nuker you're going to be stuck with an azure pt probably.

Since you seem to be semi newish to abyssea I'd recommend working on your basic atma.
Must haves: Razed ruins for DD, Apoc( you need shinryu access for this so simply make it something you're working on long term),Gnarled horn for DD(it beats out alot more than you'd think it would), Minikin for the 10 a tic refresh, beyond if you want to nuke as a mage,and the ultima or PW atma.
Atma that are aiight until you get something decent: Windy has a 5 a tic refresh atma if you beat all missions, Omega lets you get an atma with atk+ and ta that would be the best 3rd DD atma for some jobs if it wasn't for the -hp while tanking, salvage gives the dark depths atma which is kinda nice. For anything else just look at the atma page on wiki and pick something out that you've technically already earned due to things you beat ingame previously.
Get your merit and furtherance abyssites when you can.
For future reference. You can duo absolutely everything with a DD+ WHM in abyssea and only need 5~ people at most for proccing !! so anything above that is a sign that your NM killing alliance is full of noobs and death.

[Selzak]

Get a bunch of DD, a few support/healers, and some BLM's for azure lights.

That's pretty much how an exp party is built now.

About 3-4 people will do the vast majority of your damage, and 3-4 more will actually be paying attention and pulling their weight. The rest will do something every now and then, but it won't matter who is/isn't contributing because the exp will roll in very smoothly after things pick up.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Get a bunch of DD, a few support/healers, and some BLM's for azure lights.

That's pretty much how an exp party is built now.

About 3-4 people will do the vast majority of your damage, and 3-4 more will actually be paying attention and pulling their weight.Good BLMs go out themselves and solo things for azure while the melee start the pearl at the same time.

[Kits]

Rdm,blu,blm,sch are the jobs that handle azure
im sorry, whats azure?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

im sorry, whats azure?The light you gain from killing things with magic.

[Selzak]

The light you gain from killing things with magic.
It leads to gaining more time. So that your party doesn't have to leave in < 120 minutes. It's usually the first order of business. Set yourselves up with a bunch of time, then start building EXP.

[DrDelicious]

im sorry, whats azure?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Abyssea
this has all the info on abyssea you will need. lights, how xp works, everything. great resource

[TearValerin]

Since I've been back, ALOT has changed. Seems like the old party structure is useless now. And im hearing about monks tanking??? what the hell is going on lol...

Anyways, once 11 gets rebooted, id like to know a little somethin somethin on how to form an abyssea alliance (what the main factors are [DD?]) I have no clue

Depends on party. Every EXP area has a different setup. Examples:
1. Worms in La Theine is totally reliant on BLMs, and a few DDs
2. Puks on the other hand is more DD reliant with a few mages
3.NMs for seal hunting you can do BLM, WHM, BLU, MNK, WAR, NIN

just to name a few.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Bugards in Miss. Coast look scary, but they're total pushovers. Same thing with buffalos in Ulg. Range.

[Khajit]

im sorry, whats azure?

in abyssea you have "lights". Azure lights make exp, time extensions, cruor boxes, temp item boxes, and 2h reset boxes spawn. Magic kills give these.
Pearl lights increase overall chest frequency. You get it from normal meleeing/dot/etc kills
Amber lights make gold boxes with items or key items(aka boss pops) drop. You get these from elews kills
Ruby lights give red boxes that have lights inside them.Golden lights doubes the exp of the next bob and increases your base exp. Lots of fools think of them as the devil but they're actually good for exp since getting 600 exp a kill early on is better than getting 300 a kill still after several hours. Ruby lights are easy to get since they're from wskills so dont focus on em since they should pour in on their own if you have good players.
You want to work on perle and Azure first. It's actually a good idea to have the group kill a few nms at the start and get perle on it but due to the overwhelming noob population you're going to see people screw that up so it's easier to get kills from T1 vnm or Ephemeral mobs.

Ephemeral and NM give around 5~10 bonus lights a kill which is why one kills them first. once you have around 20 of a light i find it's just easiest to move onto the next colour and let the misc accidental kills of that type fill up the remaining lights left on a colour. I think maxed lights is at 30 but don't quote me on it.

[Kits]

I cant wait to hit 90 THE day the servers are back on, hahha.

Im not leeching though, thats gay. I'll fight for, what 6-9 hours

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I cant wait to hit 90 THE day the servers are back on, hahha.

Im not leeching though, thats gay. I'll fight for, what 6-9 hoursYeah since XP has basically doubled and there's unlimited fields of valor.
You have to remember to get your CS at one of the first maws(Tahrongi/Konshant/La Thine.) and then go back to the guy in port jeuno for another CS so you can start building up traverser stones.

[Kits]

hmmm. i have a travers stone but i never went to tah, kon, or la thine. i went to N and S Gustabergs, and the servers shut down when i was trying to find out how to get into Xanviea.... something, idk

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Also look up the quest "A Ward to End All Wards." It's in Grauburg. Just spam the 3 star items to get fame and cruor. There's a Black Wisker(Sounds right.) that's involved in another quest, but also gives 3 stars, once this other quest becomes available trade that NPC the whisker. You will get a key item that takes 4 hours off the time it takes to get another traverser stone.

[Kits]

Is this the quest for abyssea? i have to do all of this just for access to abyssea?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

It is abyssea, but no, not for access. It is the second expansion though. Cruor is the money there and the key item from the second quest if very good to have as it would get you stones every 16 hours instead of every 20.

[Greatguardian]

Is this the quest for abyssea? i have to do all of this just for access to abyssea?

No, it's simply a very useful quest once you are in Abyssea. Abyssea has quests and fame of its own. That particular quest is for a Key Item called an Abyssite of Celerity. There are 3 Abyssites of Celerity in the game. Each one you possess decreases your Traverser Stone recharge time by 4 hours. Once you have all 3, you get 1 stone every 8 hours instead of every 20 hours. Because of this, they are generally considered the most important Abyssites to grab early on.

[Kits]

Dang, sounds like ill need help

[Tsukino_Kaji]

One is the quest I brought up, another costs cruor to purchace and the thrid drops off of tonberries on konshant. >.<

[Greatguardian]

Dang, sounds like ill need help

It's generally not that bad. Mostly a lot of running around, doing "Talk to this NPC on the other side of the zone" quests. It's a ton of information to absorb all at once, though. You'll find it a lot easier to digest once you're in the game.

You can use : http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Abyssite : to look at the individual Abyssites and target the ones you need. The most important ones to snag are Celerity, Merit, Furtherance, Sojourn, and Lunar. 2 Lunars are gained from killing storyline bosses, and the third is bought with 100,000 Cruor (think of this as Conquest Points for Abyssea, except easier to get). Each Lunar Abyssite allows you to equip 1 Atma at a time. Atmas are awesome, and you will want to pursue those as well down the line.

[Kits]

Im excited.

[Kirana]

The best abyssea alliance is 1 war + 1 mage + 16 leeches (paying or keying).

[Nacht]

The best abyssea alliance is 1 war + 1 mage + 16 leeches (paying or keying).

I saw 1 blu and 17 leeches.
And by saw I mean the blu was talking about it on vent.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The best abyssea alliance is 1 war + 1 mage + 16 leeches (paying or keying).Sad that it could actualy work.

[Greatguardian]

Sad that it could actualy work.

That is basically all I ever do to exp. MNK+WHM + whoever needs exp from my ls. For the OP, though, this solution would not be very viable as they haven't even begun working on Atmas/Abyssites/etc.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

That is basically all I ever do to exp. MNK+WHM + whoever needs exp from my ls. For the OP, though, this solution would not be very viable as they haven't even begun working on Atmas/Abyssites/etc.I know. It's funny watching the full alliances scrambling to claim dolls over the MNK duos.

[Kirana]

Sad that it could actualy work.

it does work, and it is common practice.

[svengalis]

Fell cleave style: Get some jobs with good aoe ws(decently geared ones. War and drk uses fell cleave, other jobs can use catasylsm or aeolian edge), a puller and a whm. Possibly add a smn to spam Alexander and a blu to help aoe. Everything else doesn't matter. Make sure they have proper atma.
"normal" style: Get a whm for each pt, brd is aight if you can find some, DD in all the other slots except for a few token azure lights jobs. In all honestly you don't need anything approaching an alliance but all but about 5 people at best are probably going to be gimps that are leeching off of the ones that actually know wtf they're doing.
Rdm,blu,blm,sch are the jobs that handle azure the easiest but as I said earlier most players suck so instead of just having a single nuker you're going to be stuck with an azure pt probably.

Since you seem to be semi newish to abyssea I'd recommend working on your basic atma.
Must haves: Razed ruins for DD, Apoc( you need shinryu access for this so simply make it something you're working on long term),Gnarled horn for DD(it beats out alot more than you'd think it would), Minikin for the 10 a tic refresh, beyond if you want to nuke as a mage,and the ultima or PW atma.
Atma that are aiight until you get something decent: Windy has a 5 a tic refresh atma if you beat all missions, Omega lets you get an atma with atk+ and ta that would be the best 3rd DD atma for some jobs if it wasn't for the -hp while tanking, salvage gives the dark depths atma which is kinda nice. For anything else just look at the atma page on wiki and pick something out that you've technically already earned due to things you beat ingame previously.
Get your merit and furtherance abyssites when you can.
For future reference. You can duo absolutely everything with a DD+ WHM in abyssea and only need 5~ people at most for proccing !! so anything above that is a sign that your NM killing alliance is full of noobs and death.

You need that many DD for a Fell Cleave? I was in one that had just have one WAR and RDM the rest just leeched.

[Alderin]

in abyssea you have "lights". Azure lights make exp, time extensions, cruor boxes, temp item boxes, and 2h reset boxes spawn.

Although you are correct, the EXP you stated is not to be confused with EXP / mob., which could have been mis-understood on first glance.

Azure lights control the frequency in which the chests that drop are Blue chests. Not the amount of EXP per mob you get.
These include: -
- Time Extensions
- 2hr / restore
- Experience point chests
- Cruor chests
- Temp items

Perle lights increase the rate at which all chests drop after a mob has been killed.

EXP / mob is based solely on an EXP chain system - the more of one particular family of mob that you kill - the more you EXP per mob you get. If you are killing rabbits for example, make sure no one goes and kills a worm. (This includes Ephmearal)

Kits - I strongly suggest you do take the advice given to you by people in this forum by reading the wiki pages.
Abyssea - http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Abyssea
Abyssea Lights - http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Abyssea_Lights

If that is not too much information to sink your teeth into, I also suggest reading about staggers as in time you will be required to know / understand how they work.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Weakness_Targeting

[Kirana]

EXP / mob is based solely on an EXP chain system - the more of one particular family of mob that you kill - the more you EXP per mob you get. If you are killing rabbits for example, make sure no one goes and kills a worm. (This includes Ephmearal)

Exp/mob is also enhanced with Golden Light (obtained from red chests). With a high kill chain and gold light, the exp/mob caps at 600-650.

[cnedra]

well to get max exp fast i go with the set up 3 blm 2 whm 1 rdm and the rest dd. Only 1 thing is must for me the blms should be able to solo the mobs. And for the dd i prefer and aoe tank to hold the mobs so the dd can go full out if they are able that is

[Neofire]

That is basically all I ever do to exp. MNK+WHM + whoever needs exp from my ls. For the OP, though, this solution would not be very viable as they haven't even begun working on Atmas/Abyssites/etc.
Hey where can I get that sig you have brah? I like how it tracks your accomplishments.

[Vyvian]

To the OP, don't forget that you'll have to limit break 3 times if you're still 75. 75 to 80 was what 3 merits and 5 kindred seals?