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sc4500
05-31-2013, 10:03 PM
Right now pets are worthless , and the pets that we can charm , There worthless since can not bring in more then one of them in the reives and most people are not doing old school exp partys in the area.

Need 2 or more new jug pets, That are seekers only pets and the pets are balance , and fair in seekers, and unable to use the jug pets outside of seekers it be awsome.

Then maybe down the road can have a insane cool gear or weapons that allows them to be called outside of seekers, and dominate.

Some of my friends think we need a Bullwhip as a range weapon for pulling and with stats that got ??? and it does random stuff to the pet, like regen,haste,hp,tp,double attack, or take pet hp for 10% at a time random, but pet get like 50% damage on a hit, when got one of the bullwhips equip, and still be able to have pet food in the ammo slot.

darkhorror
05-31-2013, 11:51 PM
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/33461-Job-Adjustments-for-the-Next-Version-Update?p=432138#post432138

I hope to see jug pet upgrades similar to delve weapon upgrade.

Camate
06-18-2013, 04:56 AM
Greetings beastmasters!

Apologies that I have no images to share, but I can tell you that we will be adding 3 new types of pets (a rabbit type, chapuli type, and crab type) that can be obtained through synthesis recipes, as well as another pet which can be obtained by Mweya Plasm! :)

Delvish
06-18-2013, 05:46 AM
Not sure if any of these qualify for the title of prickly pete...

Mavrick
06-18-2013, 05:57 AM
More pets for farming EPs.

*Actually, the Chapilu does have a Max HP -10% move, but it seems even less reliable than slug's being as its a physical move and all.

Malthar
06-18-2013, 06:25 AM
Are we getting a crackclaw?!?!

Emitremmus
06-18-2013, 06:30 AM
Can the rabbit be named "Jerk-face Johnny"?

Kojo
06-18-2013, 06:32 AM
Needs a Behemoth jug pet named CommunityRepCamate.

Camate
06-18-2013, 07:31 AM
Needs a Behemoth jug pet named CommunityRepCamate.

That would be too OP. My stats are nuts!

nyheen
06-18-2013, 07:55 AM
Needs a Behemoth jug pet named CommunityRepCamate. LoL but it would be overpower><

Secondplanet
06-18-2013, 08:13 AM
I know its off topic but.... i love how the beastmaster community can ask for new pets and BAM you get them so your never too underpowered but when it comes to summoner SE can't even lift a finger to help them.

Phafi
06-18-2013, 08:43 AM
That would be too OP. My stats are nuts!

community event: battle behemoth camate in monstrosity. make it happen.

edit: cactuar hvivivivivivnrnrnrrrrrr can't use 10k needles.

edit2: where the snurbles at?

Leonardus
06-18-2013, 09:15 AM
Thanks for the good news, CommunityRepCamate.

Chimerawizard
06-18-2013, 11:05 AM
Please, you are addding more delve bosses in the next update. Can you add pets of the same family as the, to be added mobs?
Currently:
vermin delve: chapuli type pet
beast delve: rabbit type pet
aquan delve: crap type pet
Lizard delve: ...

beast delve in update?
Might as well get it done at the same time, right?

Olor
06-18-2013, 11:08 AM
Greetings beastmasters!

Apologies that I have no images to share, but I can tell you that we will be adding 3 new types of pets (a rabbit type, chapuli type, and crab type) that can be obtained through synthesis recipes, as well as another pet which can be obtained by Mweya Plasm! :)

While new pets are appreciated, don't you think it is problematic to have a jug that costs plasm when bst do not have a role in plasm parties or boss farms? At least cor and rng have a shot at being invited to events that reward plasm... But the idea of farming more plasm (on my brd) so I can be marginally semi useful on solo only content seems absurd to me,

Siviard
06-18-2013, 09:33 PM
I know its off topic but.... i love how the beastmaster community can ask for new pets and BAM you get them so your never too underpowered but when it comes to summoner SE can't even lift a finger to help them.

Beat it, Summoner......go cry about Cait Sith elsewhere. Whiny Summoners, geez......

raps1355
06-18-2013, 09:40 PM
Greetings beastmasters!

Apologies that I have no images to share, but I can tell you that we will be adding 3 new types of pets (a rabbit type, chapuli type, and crab type) that can be obtained through synthesis recipes, as well as another pet which can be obtained by Mweya Plasm! :)

Can you confirm if you mean a craklaw jug or a regular robber crab?

HimuraKenshyn
06-18-2013, 10:45 PM
Greetings beastmasters!

Apologies that I have no images to share, but I can tell you that we will be adding 3 new types of pets (a rabbit type, chapuli type, and crab type) that can be obtained through synthesis recipes, as well as another pet which can be obtained by Mweya Plasm! :)

Can Plasm jug be a reusable jug pet on a timer!!!!

Mavrick
06-18-2013, 11:09 PM
Are we getting a crackclaw?!?!

Its probably a Krabkatoa (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Krabkatoa) type crab, but why on earth would they give us another pld pet considering how useless adamantoise was? Why not a Giant bat or Beetle? at least they have useful tp abilities.

Secondplanet
06-19-2013, 12:16 AM
Beat it, Summoner......go cry about Cait Sith elsewhere. Whiny Summoners, geez......

very rich considering that thus board is beastmasters whining about needing new pets (again) and they're getting it (again).

Deifact
06-19-2013, 12:30 AM
I'm guessing bst pets are much easier to add than smn pets, since bst pets already exist with abilities already created.

Siviard
06-19-2013, 01:40 AM
very rich considering that thus board is beastmasters whining about needing new pets (again) and they're getting it (again).

Very funny. I could probably go over to the SMN forum on this site as well as FFXIAH and Allakhazam, and I'm willing to bet there's a plethora of threads and posts of "WHY U NO GIVE SMN M0AR AVATARZ SE?!?!?" and the like. I have seen so many posts made by the Development Team and Community Representatives informing us of updates they plan to implement, ONLY TO HAVE SUMMONERS WHINE ABOUT NOT HAVING NEW AVATARS IN RESPONSE! You say BSTs whine? Take a look in the mirror first before you accuse BSTs of whining. Below is a shining example, from this very thread even! I believe the quote below should be familiar to you....


I know its off topic but.... i love how the beastmaster community can ask for new pets and BAM you get them so your never too underpowered but when it comes to summoner SE can't even lift a finger to help them.

darkhorror
06-19-2013, 02:27 AM
The one that costs plasm needs to have good debuff tp moves, like a potent def down, or evasion down, along with high acc for the moves landing. Or some sort of AOE attack, or acc buff move. Something so that BST may be wanted to do events.

Malthar
06-19-2013, 05:19 AM
That would be too OP. My stats are nuts!

Bring it on, Camate! Remember, you can still be stunned!

ps: PS, I have to watch my wording in this post. The last time I suggested a post battling NPC's it was deleted. NPC's!
They said I was talking badly about the staff...
Yeah...
Is it ok if I challenge you to a duel, Camate?

Secondplanet
06-19-2013, 06:04 AM
Very funny. I could probably go over to the SMN forum on this site as well as FFXIAH and Allakhazam, and I'm willing to bet there's a plethora of threads and posts of "WHY U NO GIVE SMN M0AR AVATARZ SE?!?!?" and the like. I have seen so many posts made by the Development Team and Community Representatives informing us of updates they plan to implement, ONLY TO HAVE SUMMONERS WHINE ABOUT NOT HAVING NEW AVATARS IN RESPONSE! You say BSTs whine? Take a look in the mirror first before you accuse BSTs of whining. Below is a shining example, from this very thread even! I believe the quote below should be familiar to you....

Yes but has beast had a carrot dangled infront of their faces for over 2 years now? The last real avatar we got was diablos and since then nothing, while how many new jugs had been released for bst? I have every right along with all other summoners to complain considering that when beasts say they need new pets for zones they get them while summoners are stuck with lvl 75 attacks on our avatars and damage that is subpar compared to todays standards. I would be more then happy to stop complaining if SE actually look into summoner and fixed out lack of almost everything like attack and defence.

Zagen
06-19-2013, 06:22 AM
Yes but has beast had a carrot dangled infront of their faces for over 2 years now? The last real avatar we got was diablos and since then nothing, while how many new jugs had been released for bst? I have every right along with all other summoners to complain considering that when beasts say they need new pets for zones they get them while summoners are stuck with lvl 75 attacks on our avatars and damage that is subpar compared to todays standards. I would be more then happy to stop complaining if SE actually look into summoner and fixed out lack of almost everything like attack and defence.

You seem to be completely missing the point... This is a Beastmaster thread within the Beastmaster sub forum. If you want to complain about Summoner do it in a Summoner thread within the Summoner sub forum.

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As to new jugs I just hope they're on par with what an Alternator Automaton has become at the very least the plasm jug should be that strong.

Siviard
06-19-2013, 07:14 AM
Yes but has beast had a carrot dangled infront of their faces for over 2 years now? The last real avatar we got was diablos and since then nothing, while how many new jugs had been released for bst? I have every right along with all other summoners to complain considering that when beasts say they need new pets for zones they get them while summoners are stuck with lvl 75 attacks on our avatars and damage that is subpar compared to todays standards. I would be more then happy to stop complaining if SE actually look into summoner and fixed out lack of almost everything like attack and defence.

Yes. BST has had a carrot dangled in front of them as well. See the promise of "Pet: Treasure Hunter" gear for more information.

Now go back to the Summoner forum and whine there, please.

Secondplanet
06-19-2013, 08:39 PM
Yes. BST has had a carrot dangled in front of them as well. See the promise of "Pet: Treasure Hunter" gear for more information.

Now go back to the Summoner forum and whine there, please.

And summoners never knew love and lost? Yes you lost your TH on some pets and SE did say the option for pet TH gear was an option but summoner had the same thing with Perfect Defense with the skill capping at 60seconds with 600 summoning magic which they also said gear might be an option to allow us to reach it while with all the gear in the game can bring you just below the 520 mark.

I've never seen bst as a weak job and have seen it solo its great share of mobs in the game and i respect that but really SE needs to focus on some other jobs first before they just keep handing out more jug pets, Like how about an ability that puts the master in a weaken state and transfers all lost stats to your pet to superstrength them? There is more then one way to fix a job then to just throw out more jugs and make you forget about older jugs, even take the level cap of the lower level ones so they can be a option.

Anjou
06-19-2013, 11:37 PM
I actually have to agree with SecondPlanet on this one, Summoner hasn't really seen much in terms of progress, whereas BST has had tons of things added to it. But then again SE has plenty to choose from in terms of avatars, such as Cait Sith, Atomos, Bahamut (Why hasn't he been thought of yet, he's like the CLASSIC), and then their other summons throughout FF history. It isn't to say they don't have the creativity to make new ones, quite the opposite they have a lot to pick from.

Could always make it where Odin/Alex aren't 1hr summons, maybe that'd help and they couldn't use their abilities unless the SMN used astral flow.

Delvish
06-20-2013, 02:25 AM
I actually have to agree with SecondPlanet on this one, Summoner hasn't really seen much in terms of progress, whereas BST has had tons of things added to it. But then again SE has plenty to choose from in terms of avatars, such as Cait Sith, Atomos, Bahamut (Why hasn't he been thought of yet, he's like the CLASSIC), and then their other summons throughout FF history. It isn't to say they don't have the creativity to make new ones, quite the opposite they have a lot to pick from.

Could always make it where Odin/Alex aren't 1hr summons, maybe that'd help and they couldn't use their abilities unless the SMN used astral flow.
Right and wrong. Right idea, wrong place

Chimerawizard
06-20-2013, 05:39 AM
Bahamut (Why hasn't he been thought of yet, he's like the CLASSIC)
again wrong place but I'm gonna be an idiot and answer anyway.
SE stated years ago they would never add bahamut to the list of smn's in ffxi. something about ps2 limitations was probably thrown in just so we never complained about it again.

I would love to see the jug pet lv cap removed. I always thought it was quite annoying that I couldn't get a cheapo pet from an NPC even if I wanted to because it'd be lv 40 or w/e.
They probably will never remove the cap either; what would happen to the merit & gear augment?

Zagen
06-20-2013, 05:49 AM
I would love to see the jug pet lv cap removed. I always thought it was quite annoying that I couldn't get a cheapo pet from an NPC even if I wanted to because it'd be lv 40 or w/e.
They probably will never remove the cap either; what would happen to the merit & gear augment?

See when I initially began to read your post I thought you were talking about all the level caps on jugs in other words all jug pets would be 109 with merits and relic+2 gloves of course. Now that I think would be rather nice and not only makes jugs from NPCs an option it increases the jug market on the AH well potentially anyway.

Olor
06-24-2013, 03:33 PM
I'd really like to know what the dev's plans are to make BST desirable in group content.

zataz
06-25-2013, 09:59 PM
And summoners never knew love and lost? Yes you lost your TH on some pets and SE did say the option for pet TH gear was an option but summoner had the same thing with Perfect Defense with the skill capping at 60seconds with 600 summoning magic which they also said gear might be an option to allow us to reach it while with all the gear in the game can bring you just below the 520 mark.

I've never seen bst as a weak job and have seen it solo its great share of mobs in the game and i respect that but really SE needs to focus on some other jobs first before they just keep handing out more jug pets, Like how about an ability that puts the master in a weaken state and transfers all lost stats to your pet to superstrength them? There is more then one way to fix a job then to just throw out more jugs and make you forget about older jugs, even take the level cap of the lower level ones so they can be a option.

your right they need to fix other jobs but not snm try rdm

Cowardlybabooon
07-03-2013, 08:15 AM
I'd really like to know what the dev's plans are to make BST desirable in group content.
Pretty sure they have no plans for that. If you manage to pull it off, you are going against the grain and could have had an easier time with any other job.

Mavrick
07-04-2013, 11:30 PM
Been playing around with the VT Barnacle Crabs in Rala Underways. They are Krabkatoa-type crabs that can be charmed.

They do not seem to have Venom Shower :( but they do have Mega Scissors.

Mega Scissors consistently deals 4700~5200 damage to other VT crabs, spiders, leeches, bats, etc. However it only hits me for 850-900 damage so I suspect it based on target's HP.

I really hope this is the crab we're getting and not another lame C.C ; ; Would be even more impressed if it also had venom shower for the Defense-25% additional effect.

Mavrick
07-07-2013, 01:26 AM
Never mind, I just saw this....

http://i41.tinypic.com/aeussk.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/ruzlef.jpg

This crab ain't happening.

Disclaimer : Just so no one gets confused, This is NOT one of the jug pets mentioned, it is a charmed VT crab found in Rala Waterways.

Falkirk
07-08-2013, 11:02 AM
Whoa. @_@ That is AWESOME!

Louispv
07-08-2013, 05:30 PM
Well maybe a Crakclaw might actually happen. Because if it's just a normal crab, there will be fires started. With every 3rd swing or so having en-stun, bringing a few BST along to events to stun lock would certainly be useful.

nyheen
07-09-2013, 04:43 AM
Never mind, I just saw this....

http://i41.tinypic.com/aeussk.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/ruzlef.jpg

This crab ain't happening.
DUDE. OMG! @(*$##$. #$#$>$. WTF.

Mavrick
07-09-2013, 06:08 AM
What we actually got was a regular crab and CC (2000 paslm each) So basically 2 crab pets. Not sure what to say.

BST
07-10-2013, 10:56 AM
What we actually got was a regular crab and CC (2000 paslm each) So basically 2 crab pets. Not sure what to say.
I laughed.

Louispv
07-10-2013, 02:09 PM
Just an update, the plasm jug is weaker hitting and has worse accuracy than the old jugs. Has as much defense as raphie and takes about half damage after scissor guard, but it can't get or hold hate with it's pitiful damage, even when you're snarling onto it. W.T.F.

Alpheus
07-10-2013, 05:42 PM
Clearly designed w/ the Bee and other Naakul Axe in mind /rollseyes. Here's hoping the Chapuli one wont suck!

darkhorror
07-11-2013, 12:17 AM
I am disappointed in the new jugs, especially compared to the increase other pet jobs got. I mean sure it's a good upgrade, just seems like the pets should be doing a bit more damage.

Glamdring
07-11-2013, 10:11 AM
I'd really like to know what the dev's plans are to make BST desirable in group content.

what, they added sheep pets a long time ago and you know what sheep are used for at frat parties...

yes, sarcasm, yet another service offerred to all who ask :D

PS, picking on SE, not you, YOU have a point, the new jugs it seems not.

nyheen
07-11-2013, 12:53 PM
was trying the delve crab pet and ya i was disappointed. they need to fix the bst pet because it nothing like how the alternator (pup), Dashavatara Sash (smn) is. these pets that 2k plasma is a joke:(.

Mavrick
07-16-2013, 07:39 AM
Played with the grasshopper today. Not a horrible pet.. Stronger than bunny but seems a bit weaker, if not, on par with Tiger which is pretty sad considering the Tiger caps at lv 114 while grasshopper is 119 (Using Kerehcatl Axe). He is however a lot more durable. I was able to chain a few ITs in Marjami Ravine. Sanguinary Slash (Max HP Down) would've really made this useful in delve bosses but he cannot use it. I don't think the Devs like the idea of Pets with enfeebling moves considering Slug and Lizard are now lost to the level cap and Hopper's best ability was removed. My dreams of a future Giant Bat and Beetle jug seems like a fantasy now... All I see are crabs.

Leonardus
07-17-2013, 10:56 AM
Two crab jugs in one update does seem baffling. I guess HeraldHenry was just too awesome an idea at the SE offices for them to ignore.

If you ask me, we need some ViciousVorahal action around here. What am I to do when my SwiftSeighard caps at Level 94/109 SE? Start calling a bunch of crabs? Do I look like a crab master? (No offense to the seaworthy BSTs around here).

Well, at least Falcorr is remaining Faithful. And Mavrick, there's a new(ish) beetle I noticed in the Yahse Hunting Grounds. They should give that to you, it is kinda cool looking.

Karbuncle
07-17-2013, 01:12 PM
I feel you, as a BST myself, But you guys need to realize, as far as pet jobs go, BST has always been in the best position. Which i know is like winning the SE-Gimpolympics, But the point remains, these pets weren't going to make BST inviteable or super wtf, just like PUP and SMN are still pretty useless jobs despite the buffs they got.

I mean, PUP and SMN are more awesome, But they aren't getting party spots over other jobs still (Partially due to Player stupidity when it comes to PUP and MNK but we'll let that slide for now...)...

REGARDLESS, The point I'm trying to make is, your Pets got the exact same treatment as other pet jobs, Increased Stats/Level (Your pets now go above level 100 Like ours). Automatons level is linked to Animator now, and Pets to the new Ammo, Your is linked to main hand weapon ( I think?), So every pet job got the bonus of having level ~120 Pets (Except smn cause fk those guys)... Um... What I think I'm getting at is these new pets were meant to give us new pets, not exactly give us something like that barnacle crab lol...

The real power you'll see from pets is when you get a Main Hand weapon level 115+, Which will significantly boost the pets survivability and damage output (Especially in places like Dynamis on DC mobs)... So While I don't think you'll be seeing 5k pet WS, I don't think that was the point.... BST is already a strong job, and its pets are the best of all current pet Jobs... so coupled with your amazing Axe/Master DD potential and (once you have the proper main hand weapon) a boosted pet, You'll probably start to love some of these new pets.

P.S Crab pet is still sucktastic, I know Scissor guard makes it a boss for tanking but its DPS needs to be upped. But also try to remember the Delve pets weren't the real "Boost" BST got, the Main-Hand level matching was. GOODLUCK :D



PS JUST SO I MAKE IT CLEARER, SAYING BST IS THE AWESOMEST PET JOB I KNOW DOESN'T MEAN MUCH, I"M JUST SAYING THEIR BOOST WAS OBV GOING TO BE SMALLER BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY THE MOST POWERFUL OF THE PET JOBS WHEN IT COMES TO PET DAMAGE/ALL AROUNDNESS.... thats a word now.

Louispv
07-17-2013, 08:01 PM
The real power you'll see from pets is when you get a Main Hand weapon level 115+, Which will significantly boost the pets survivability and damage output (Especially in places like Dynamis on DC mobs)

Current testing shows that the pets are still capped at certain levels, and only fully augmented Monster gloves +2 with 5/5 beast affinity merits allow you to use them at all. The rabbit is level 103 and your weapon doesn't raise it's stats in any way. The same thing with Mafik at 104 and Scissorleg at 105.

Every other pet job has their pets increase in strength with stronger gear, but it is an outright lie when they said the same about BST. All your weapon level does is impose a maximum strength cap, a ridiculous concept when they implemented it with pet level caps, in the first place.

If you have a Kerecathl, the highest level axe in the game at 119, you only have 3 pets at your level, Mafik, the Chapuli, and Henry. Dortwin was obsolete before even being added to the game because he caps out below 119 even with all the beast affinity you can muster.

Scissorleg and MAfik's level caps of 104/105 plus 15 levels from monster glove augmented 5/5 Beast affinity will leave them behind the very second the next axe is added to the game. Meaning we will only have Henry as the only level appropriate jug pet. Henry, the weakest of all of our pets, just like we were stranded with just Carrie at 75. Henry, the jug that costs more than all the bullets a RNG will use in his entire career.

I just did a Ravine Wildskeeper Reive. I went through 2 stacks of jugs in the process. (A PUP's alternator doesn't explode and have to be replaced every time the PUP is K.O.'ed, I wonder why my jug does.) At 2000 plasm per jug, that's 48,000 plasm. That means to do a 2 hour event like this, I have to gather an alliance of people and farm fractures for 12 straight hours to buy the only level appropriate pet available to me.

The correct response is to remove all pet level caps and simply let the master's stats bleed over to their pet. The lazy response is to give us an ammo slot item like SMN has that raises all pets stats to a certain level. Since the reason our jugs are consumables is to spur inter-player transactions of crafted goods, the very least acceptable solution is to replace the jug of translucent broth, with a cape or belt that dispenses a stack of translucent broth every 10 minutes, with infinite charges. If we are purchasing them from an NPC and bypassing other players entirely, there's no reason for these jugs to ever be consumed in the first place.

Karbuncle
07-18-2013, 02:28 AM
While your point on monster levels Is valid, Its not the one i was trying to make. I was addressing the topic of conversation, read: Pet combat ability. Their Levels being capped is a whole new level of stupid that I personally didn't want to get into cause its a big ol can of worms :|

Limecat
07-18-2013, 06:33 PM
I'm hoping they fiddle with Charm so that it uses iLvl as the EM baseline when present.

Delvish
07-18-2013, 10:13 PM
I'm hoping they fiddle with Charm so that it uses iLvl as the EM baseline when present.

I'm -pretty- sure this is actually a thing in the works. I think they said they were going to have monsters check differently according to your item level. Whether that will be an average of all your gear, or simply your main hand, remains to be seen.

SpankWustler
07-19-2013, 04:31 AM
A Beastmaster walked out in the gray light and stood and he saw for a brief moment the absolute truth of the world. The cold relentless circling of the intestate earth. Darkness implacable. The blind crabs of the sun in their running. The crushing black vacuum of the universe. And somewhere two nearly level-capped jug pets trembling like ground-foxes in their cover. Borrowed time and borrowed world and borrowed eyes with which to sorrow it.

Louispv
07-19-2013, 01:54 PM
While your point on monster levels Is valid, Its not the one i was trying to make. I was addressing the topic of conversation, read: Pet combat ability. Their Levels being capped is a whole new level of stupid that I personally didn't want to get into cause its a big ol can of worms :|
You were trying to say our pets get stronger with equipment. This is false. Our equipment can only make our pets weaker, as they can't exceed the level of the weapon. Our pets are the same strength they were before, even the new ones. (their offense is the same or weaker, they have more defense, but that doesn't really matter as they can't tank.)

The only thing that made our pets stronger was removing the "No pet can exceed level 99" restriction from Beast affinity. And that won't cut it in 2 weeks when the new delve areas arrive and we get level 129 axes, making the master level 129, but the pet remains level 103.

Puppets, wyverns and avatars get stronger with stronger equipment. If a SMN equips a Sash, it's avatars are raised to level 113. If a PUP Equips an alternator, it's puppets stats are increased to a level equivalent to level 120. (Capped ACC and ATT on Hurkan says hello.) If a DRG equips the level 119 spear, his wyvern increases in level to 119. Jug pets do not. If I equip a Kerecathl,(level 119) Dortwin is still level 103, as if I was using a Faizeer. Hell, if I equip an Aalak's axe, it gets decreased in level to 100. Why is this, when SE stated exactly the opposite? They couldn't have even implemented the same damn change they gave to DRG, but for BST?

Babekeke
07-19-2013, 02:34 PM
I'm -pretty- sure this is actually a thing in the works. I think they said they were going to have monsters check differently according to your item level. Whether that will be an average of all your gear, or simply your main hand, remains to be seen.

I believe it's based on the highest level piece of equipment that you are wearing (exp will be based on the highest piece worn at any point during the fight).

If your weapon is not the highest piece of gear, your level will keep going up and down if you are macroing the highest piece in and out. No idea how this would affect charm though.

dasva
07-20-2013, 12:28 AM
Yay I'm not the only one who is mad about how bst got shafted hard with the pet buff updates. Seriously I've gotten my jugs to lvl 113 just like smn can and it's not even close. Those blm avatars melee sooooooooooo much harder than my supposedly lvl 113 jug. Not to mention testing has shown only like 6-7 hp per lvl. And on top of that all the other jobs just equip while bst has to equip merit and augment... and still be lower stat increase than other jobs at the same lvl and being capped lower... wtf SE

Sparthos
07-20-2013, 04:00 AM
Played with the grasshopper today. Not a horrible pet.. Stronger than bunny but seems a bit weaker, if not, on par with Tiger which is pretty sad considering the Tiger caps at lv 114 while grasshopper is 119 (Using Kerehcatl Axe). He is however a lot more durable. I was able to chain a few ITs in Marjami Ravine. Sanguinary Slash (Max HP Down) would've really made this useful in delve bosses but he cannot use it. I don't think the Devs like the idea of Pets with enfeebling moves considering Slug and Lizard are now lost to the level cap and Hopper's best ability was removed. My dreams of a future Giant Bat and Beetle jug seems like a fantasy now... All I see are crabs.

Where'd you get the Mandragora Sprouts from to make the broth?

sc4500
07-27-2013, 12:14 PM
Where'd you get the Mandragora Sprouts from to make the broth?

Mandys in cirdas caverns.

dasva
08-04-2013, 07:28 AM
We still need new pets so we don't have to be the only job that on top of needing ilvl needs merits and augments to boost our pets.

Of course there is also the combat ability thing to go over. See a smn go to yorica and kill IT++s with basically just a bp. While my jugs at the same ilvl get eaten alive

Leonardus
08-04-2013, 06:05 PM
Clearly the age of hippogryphs, slugs and other assorted wildlife was too much of a good thing.

Also, it seems BST is excluded from SE's merital-mantra of "choices!" Our "choice" of 5/5 Beast Affinity or severely underleveled pets is rather suspect. But, maybe that's just me reveling in my crabby attitude at the moment.

Psxpert2011
08-04-2013, 08:25 PM
I clearly lost interest in FFxi as of lately and miss playing bst because of the rivalry. Not even the new expansion got me interested. What's this I hear that SoA pet are restricted or limited to that particular expansion...?

Are we getting these ridiculous pet half our size and don't do anything special while soloing or in pty? Can bst have their own exclusive mount, like charm-to-ride-and-escape? I'm sure smn needs some love too but "meh", I'm not a mage.

I'm sure a lot of players like me feel the same and need incentive to return... I'm sure my friends are hating me ATM XD

Delvish
08-05-2013, 08:32 PM
Clearly the age of hippogryphs, slugs and other assorted wildlife was too much of a good thing.

Also, it seems BST is excluded from SE's merital-mantra of "choices!" Our "choice" of 5/5 Beast Affinity or severely underleveled pets is rather suspect. But, maybe that's just me reveling in my crabby attitude at the moment.

"Crabby" haha. Crab joke... with BST... ha...

sc4500
08-13-2013, 03:57 PM
I clearly lost interest in FFxi as of lately and miss playing bst because of the rivalry. Not even the new expansion got me interested. What's this I hear that SoA pet are restricted or limited to that particular expansion...?

Are we getting these ridiculous pet half our size and don't do anything special while soloing or in pty? Can bst have their own exclusive mount, like charm-to-ride-and-escape? I'm sure smn needs some love too but "meh", I'm not a mage.

I'm sure a lot of players like me feel the same and need incentive to return... I'm sure my friends are hating me ATM XD

Bst are amazing outside of the Seekers expansion. The pet droopy in dyna is crazy damage on foot damage. , Now your more powerful then ever outside the expansion, Just in seekers your know longer feeling liker your playing a Beastmaster anymore.

Your jug pets in seekers are just fodder now, mainly you are using the pets to put on debuffs to the mobs and hope they stick. When ever you attack the mob most of the time now days in seeker the mob will aggro you off your pet. Need to make sure you got a tank gear set up on you in seekers . Since it is difficult to get hate on the pets to stay. Dawn mulsums and your reward or any pet ability can cause the pets to lose hate on the tougher mobs and hit you.

Even if you charm easy prey in the new expansion. The charm pets are still , on the timers that are saying there toughs or it++.

SMN and PUP's are both amazing now.

Olor
08-22-2013, 07:22 AM
Seriously, Please DEVS please JUST MAKE BST SUCK LESS FOR PARTIES. THANK YOU.

Even just make it suck less in Seekers overall please.