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Nebo
05-21-2013, 05:29 AM
A simple request:

Please remove the Rare tag from One handed weapons purchasable from the NPC Forri-Porri.

One handed weapons are already start at a significant disadvantage when it comes to DD relative to 2-Handed weapons. With the addition of delve content, this gap has grown even further.

2-Handed weapons take a giant leap forward in damage and gain the full benefit for the New Delve weapons. While 1-handed DD's that rely on Dual Wield are forced to use a significantly weaker weapon to pair with the new delve weapon.

The end result is an even larger gap between 2-handed and 1-handed DD's than there has ever been. A gap which...even adjusting the DEX and STR attributes to have an equal effect for both types will not fix.

Please remove the Rare tag from One handed weapons purchasable from the NPC Forri-Porri and allow one-handers to dual wield them.

Alpheus
05-21-2013, 05:48 AM
I think SE knows they have 1handers by the balls and will probably leave it that way as further incentive to have people interested in skirmish or naakul fights to get a working offhand.

Karbuncle
05-21-2013, 06:02 AM
for a few 1-handers, namely, Sword, Dagger, Axe... You can get the Nakuul Delve BOss's weapon, and the Delve weapon... For others there's the crafted weapons...

But honestly, Those are crazy to get, Even a skirmish dagger or Nakuul weapon is a significant and horrible DPS hit compared to Delve weaponry. maybe they can help 1handers, and add 2 1-Handed weapons to the "Buyable" Plasm point things or whatever, instead of just 1 and 2 more 200mil gil ones or one that comes from the End all Be all Boss.

I mean, THF can get away with DelveNak/DelvePlasm Weapon, So can BST and say BLU, but the other one handers.. NIN for one, is just SoL >_>

Nebo
05-21-2013, 06:05 AM
for a few 1-handers, namely, Sword, Dagger, Axe... You can get the Nakuul Delve BOss's weapon, and the Delve weapon... For others there's the crafted weapons...

But honestly, Those are crazy to get, Even a skirmish dagger or Nakuul weapon is a significant and horrible DPS hit compared to Delve weaponry. maybe they can help 1handers, and add 2 1-Handed weapons to the "Buyable" Plasm point things or whatever, instead of just 1 and 2 more 200mil gil ones or one that comes from the End all Be all Boss.

I mean, THF can get away with DelveNak/DelvePlasm Weapon, So can BST and say BLU, but the other one handers.. NIN for one, is just SoL >_>

Yeah, once you get the boss weapons. But the bosses are just now started to be killed and he weapons will be very few and far between. You and I might have access to them....but most players will not.... especially just starting out delve gear, which puts the entrance barrier quite high to even participate in Delve plasm farming.

I think it would be a more reasonable start line to have delve nq plasm weapons dual wield-able. I'm sure they will be adding better weapons with new naakuals and bosses etc down the line.

Even for a job like THF, using these stronger daggers, you still have to use inferior WS (Until they unlock Rudra's and whenever they get around to upgrading R/M/E daggers). While 2-Handers still get to spam their immensely more powerful WS with Attribute mods that actually make sense (STR) Vs our next best WS mod for Exenterator (AGI).

Alpheus
05-21-2013, 06:23 AM
I agree with ya Karb I just honestly think they dont view it as a problem as you or even I do =/

Zumi
05-21-2013, 04:36 PM
I would make 2 suggestions for 1h delve weapons.

1. Take off the rare tag to allow dual wielding.
2. Reduce the cost to 15000 Plasm.

Tinuviel
05-22-2013, 03:34 AM
Attention! This issue is already solved:

1. Get a R/E/M 1h weapon corresponding to your needs
2. Upgrade it LVL99
3. Quit game
4. Return to game when they upgrade R/E/M to be "equivalentish" to delve
5. Enjoy dual-wielding like a boss

Tickmeoff
05-22-2013, 08:08 AM
More than anything, the cost of 1 handed weapons needs to be cut in half. It's entirely unfair that dual wield jobs have to spend the same amount for half the value.

Zirael
05-22-2013, 09:43 AM
More than anything, the cost of 1 handed weapons needs to be cut in half. It's entirely unfair that dual wield jobs have to spend the same amount for half the value.
And the extra starts (Relic ACC+/ATK+/enpoison/enparalyze/triple damage) don't work when you off-hand your Relic/Mythic weapon :-/