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Nvr
03-22-2011, 06:30 PM
Please provide another means to obtain this item for Dipper Yuley. It is an item used in a very important jug pet synth, yet to obtain them, you must have a high lvl thf to steal them, or pay an very large amount of gil for them on the AH.

Please provide a decent way for BSTs to farm these on BST, and not have to lvl THF.

Daniel_Hatcher
03-22-2011, 06:34 PM
Or harvest them in Grauberg, seriously you can get 2 stacks in just over an hour.

Nvr
03-22-2011, 06:38 PM
Or harvest them in Grauberg, seriously you can get 2 stacks in just over an hour.

Hmmm, would it be a pain if there was alot of competition?

Daniel_Hatcher
03-22-2011, 06:43 PM
Hmmm, would it be a pain if there was alot of competition?

Perhaps, but it's the cheapest way I know, and more reliable than getting a THF to steal 'em.

blowfin
03-23-2011, 06:29 AM
I just buy them off the AH when I see them. My trick is to use Synergy instead of cooking to synth them though. You get much better value out of your synths with the HQ's you can get, plus the NQ synth gives you 6 not 4 jugs.

Daniel_Hatcher
03-23-2011, 06:50 AM
I use synergy too, though I never seem to HQ. Ah, well!

Guardian
03-23-2011, 07:30 AM
Hmmm, would it be a pain if there was alot of competition?

I haven't had to compete with a single person since Aby came out for the chigoes. Only time I've seen ppl out there was for magian trials, but maybe that's just Shiva. GL

Limecat
03-23-2011, 08:00 AM
I don't harvest them(though I should), but I do have my own way of getting them. I just leave Nashmau for the nearby Karakuls as BST/THF.

1. Try to steal
2. If I steal a chigoe, I kill the Karakul.
3. If not, I charm the Karakul and take it into the tunnel to wait on Steal's cooldown.
4. When it's up, release the Karakul.
5. Immediately use Steal again before it depops, loop back to 2.

Unfortunately you can't just steal successfully/charm/release/depop the sheep, since the "item has been stolen" flag persists on those kinds of despawns. I suppose there isn't a huge reason to not kill them after a failed attempt, but I usually don't feel like bothering with it.

Guardian
03-23-2011, 08:05 AM
I don't harvest them(though I should), but I do have my own way of getting them. I just leave Nashmau for the nearby Karakuls as BST/THF.

1. Try to steal
2. If I steal a chigoe, I kill the Karakul.
3. If not, I charm the Karakul and take it into the tunnel to wait on Steal's cooldown.
4. When it's up, release the Karakul.
5. Immediately use Steal again before it depops, loop back to 2.

Unfortunately you can't just steal successfully/charm/release/depop the sheep, since the "item has been stolen" flag persists on those kinds of despawns. I suppose there isn't a huge reason to not kill them after a failed attempt, but I usually don't feel like bothering with it.

Yeah, I was doing the same before I found out that I could harvest them. Then I realized harvesting was like 20x faster, and never tried to steal again.

Tsukino_Kaji
03-23-2011, 10:36 AM
I use synergy too, though I never seem to HQ. Ah, well!I never synergy, I HQ too much. lol
The big problem is supply.

jstchill
03-23-2011, 10:49 AM
There is one other way to get them and it works very well for me. I actually only get around 6 each day but some days I can get up to 12 or I can get only 2 in an hour of work. It's choco digging but you have to be level A10 to really have a chance at getting alot of them.

The down side is you can only dig up 100 items in a day unless you have gear that enhances your digging which takes me about 35 minutes to dig up 100 items before work each day. It's slow but it's enough for me to make dippers for myself and sometimes have enough left over for selling.

primel
03-23-2011, 08:45 PM
Oh... can we steal lesser chigoes by sub thf ?!
I have only thf Lv15 for TH1, but I will try it...

primel (*^-^*) taru-bst Lv84

Daniel_Hatcher
03-23-2011, 09:24 PM
I never synergy, I HQ too much. lol
The big problem is supply.

/slap, I hate you. :(

Limecat
03-24-2011, 03:03 AM
Oh... can we steal lesser chigoes by sub thf ?!
I have only thf Lv15 for TH1, but I will try it...

primel (*^-^*) taru-bst Lv84

I'll warn you that it can take a very long time, though. My THF sub is only 25 and the success rate is really low(hence why I said I should just go harvest the things instead). I'd heavily recommend that you take advantage to the recent exp changes and boost your THF level up a good bit over 15 before you actually try this for yourself.

blowfin
03-24-2011, 06:14 AM
I never synergy, I HQ too much. lol
The big problem is supply.

Well for people who are tier 0 on cooking, or simply don`t have it leveled at all, synergy is a good option.

Tsukino_Kaji
03-24-2011, 07:19 AM
Well for people who are tier 0 on cooking, or simply don`t have it leveled at all, synergy is a good option.You still need someone with the apropriate cooking skill to PT with. Though, that being said, there's tons of us everywhere. lol

blowfin
03-24-2011, 07:54 AM
You still need someone with the apropriate cooking skill to PT with. Though, that being said, there's tons of us everywhere. lol

Oh yes good point. Forgot about that as my cooking is somewhere in the 50`s.

Xilk
03-25-2011, 02:14 PM
Oh... can we steal lesser chigoes by sub thf ?!
I have only thf Lv15 for TH1, but I will try it...

primel (*^-^*) taru-bst Lv84

Stealing Chigoes is the more ridiculous terrible way to try to get them. Steal success rate is HORRIBLE. and you have a long recast timer as well.

Geebee
07-14-2011, 06:49 AM
I haven't had to compete with a single person since Aby came out for the chigoes. Only time I've seen ppl out there was for magian trials, but maybe that's just Shiva. GL

I agree I never see anyone else harvesting them from here either, if you go make sure you take 4/4 HELM gear this greatly increases your chances of getting more items from the same ???, my record is 15 items from the same ??? :) (2 stacks of chigoes in 1 hour)
as regards to AH prices 99% of the time I have always made my own Jugs, from day 1 I leveled a cooking mule just for all my BST needs, its saved me a fourtune and I never run out of the things I need Jugs/pet food/food, nothing gives me more pleasure then to go out farming for
*Jugs mats
*Pet food mats
*Exp/merits
*NPC exp
all at the same time :)

Borland
08-07-2011, 11:45 PM
No one was selling any chigoes on my server for a while so I tried out harvesting some in Grauberg, and I'm not sure how anyone could get more than a stack in an hour unless they were fairly lucky. (and this was me being the only person harvesting in the zone)

So the drop rate really isn't that cool.

Areola
08-08-2011, 11:20 AM
No one was selling any chigoes on my server for a while so I tried out harvesting some in Grauberg, and I'm not sure how anyone could get more than a stack in an hour unless they were fairly lucky. (and this was me being the only person harvesting in the zone)

So the drop rate really isn't that cool.

Have you been using H.E.L.M. gear? there is a huge difference when you don't have it on. Also i find it useful do do it on dancer for the movement speed and steps(for those pesky chigoes)

Karbuncle
08-08-2011, 01:09 PM
Have you been using H.E.L.M. gear? there is a huge difference when you don't have it on. Also i find it useful do do it on dancer for the movement speed and steps(for those pesky chigoes)

I was under the impression Helm gear only helps you break less Sickles, does not enhance rate of rarer things. In fact i was 99% sure :X

I went there on THF in just empyrean armor and got a stack +~3 in about 1 hours work, no competition, no helm gear involved (none in stock). It is really the best way to get lesser's, but with competition it does suck a bit.

Qkan
08-10-2011, 07:00 PM
I've done the harvesting quite a bit myself and it really does average out to roughly 1 stack an hour. Some days you can do it faster and others will be slower. With HELM gear, I'd manage about 1 stack for 3 sickles lost. Never tried without HELM. I liked doing it on BST/DNC with Lulush and Glyph Axe. When I'd get Chigoes on me, it was simple to kill them with Pet Attack>Whirl Claws. If at 300% TP on Pet, she'd some times 1 shot them. In fact it was sometimes faster to pull the chigoes standing on a harvesting node and do this. Just be warned that just like in Abyssea, using the node while your pet is engaged will disengage it. Would pull random treants/goblins to build my own TP if I ever had to heal.

It's also not bad for some other items. One of the harvested items vendors for about 10k a stack and one other goes for about 10k a stack on AH (Vegetable seeds if I remember correctly).

Ziz meat is another thing that's almost never on AH. Sells cheaper, but just as fast (maybe faster). It's an easy camp and using Yuly gets about 1 stack about every hour. With cooking, you can probably convert to Bloodclaw's for increased profit. Just do the math before making them as server prices vary.

Limecat
08-18-2011, 12:28 AM
I was under the impression Helm gear only helps you break less Sickles, does not enhance rate of rarer things. In fact i was 99% sure :X

I went there on THF in just empyrean armor and got a stack +~3 in about 1 hours work, no competition, no helm gear involved (none in stock). It is really the best way to get lesser's, but with competition it does suck a bit.

The old HELM gear, yeah. One of those new bits they added as GoV box-drops increases the chance of getting better items though.

Caketime
08-24-2011, 12:31 AM
If I see a bunch of jerks lording over the harvesting points in Grauberg due to this thread I'm going to be pissed.

Areola
08-24-2011, 01:59 PM
If I see a bunch of jerks lording over the harvesting points in Grauberg due to this thread I'm going to be pissed.
Thats not likely. But I'm always happy to see anyone else but me farming them. I stopped farming them out of pure laziness. 80-100k a stack of dippers doesn't seem like that much after a while, particularly when one dipper can make me about 150k(give or take) in 20min.

hobgoblin
08-29-2011, 07:19 PM
Never really saw the price of yulys as too bad - supply however's getting mildly difficult, and it's the bandwagon bsts thinking it's the only jug around that racks the costs up as well.

primel
10-29-2011, 02:12 PM
Hi bst freinds,
1.steal from mobs with sub thf (sub thf Lv25)
2.chocobo digging in Wajaom Woodlands (digging delay 0 sec, zoning delay 20 sec.)
3.harvesting in Grauberg (many chigoes hopping around harvesting points)

I tried these 1~3, but I could get chigoes by harvesting.
(maybe high skill players can do it by other two)
For about 30 min. to 1 hour, i got 1 dozen lesser chigoes.
Im be happy with you, thanks for tips ('ー')/

Daniel_Hatcher
10-30-2011, 09:02 PM
Hi bst freinds,
1.steal from mobs with sub thf (sub thf Lv25)
2.chocobo digging in Wajaom Woodlands (digging delay 0 sec, zoning delay 20 sec.)
3.harvesting in Grauberg (many chigoes hopping around harvesting points)

I tried these 1~3, but I could get chigoes by harvesting.
(maybe high skill players can do it by other two)
For about 30 min. to 1 hour, i got 1 dozen lesser chigoes.
Im be happy with you, thanks for tips ('ー')/

Even at 95 THF the Steal rate is horrible, Chocobo Digging is even worse.

Harvesting is the best.