View Full Version : The New Delve Armor
Prothscar
04-26-2013, 11:42 AM
Looks aesthetically horrendous and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Fix it pls, tnx.
Eanae
04-26-2013, 11:47 AM
Probably the laziest models we've seen in a very long time. I seriously hope these models are upgradable to something much more... intricate.
Nothing keeps you guys happy?
Raksha
04-26-2013, 12:15 PM
Happy people on MY internet?
P.S. Where is this new Delve armor anyway?
Alhanelem
04-26-2013, 12:20 PM
rage mode over gear asthetics? ....
As long as it has good stats, I won't care too much. Not that I'll probably ever obtain it anyway.
Xerius
04-26-2013, 12:49 PM
It's on the Seekers of Adoulin page under Theatres of War.
detlef
04-26-2013, 01:04 PM
It does look pretty awful.
Metaking
04-26-2013, 01:08 PM
Mikinaak i kinda like how it looks, and Bokwus is decent, but omg Manibozho is worse looking than the old pink ranger from abysea >.>
Mefuki
04-26-2013, 02:27 PM
I think the problem I have with it is that they just seem so...I don't know, boring? This gear is going to be the new best or close to it going by Matsui's statement. So, why can't the gear be really slick and cool-looking? Just take a page from almost any other FF to get an idea on what some cool high-level armor designs are, SE. You got it right with the Naakual weapons I think.
Asymptotic
04-26-2013, 04:29 PM
They could have re-colored an old set with more spectacular results
Kincard
04-26-2013, 04:52 PM
I don't think the heavy armor set looks too bad sans the helmet (I always like it when they remember to put all the chainmail details between the plates), I think the light armor and mage armor look pretty atrocious though.
rage mode over gear asthetics? ....
It's almost like we're playing a fantasy game or something.
Severence
04-26-2013, 05:11 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2xvto1Gya1rutvxio1_500.png
^My thoughts exactly.
Yinnyth
04-26-2013, 05:51 PM
Looks aesthetically horrendous and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Fix it pls, tnx.
No, you're ugly. Fix it pls, thx.
(dat mod, you can fix ugly stuff in game easier than you can fix a poor complexion IRL)
Edit: (These sets look fine. All of them look better than wedding dress and tux, imo)
Camiie
04-26-2013, 08:10 PM
The Mikinaak set is OK except for the bowl helmet. Manibozho body is a pink Mirke Wardercors with added under sleeves which makes it look like they have wooden forearms. Bokwus looks like a poor man's SMN AF where they couldn't afford any dye or a horn.
Emitremmus
04-26-2013, 10:34 PM
I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna LOL when they change all the colours of the new armor to poo brown/green, and put a giant graphic of pieces of cheese all over it...to go with the whine of course.
Kaeviathan
04-26-2013, 11:13 PM
These are terrible looking sets, definitely does not inspire me to want to do new Adoulin content. Theres still time to fix this at-least. I wouldn't mind a halt for the new content for a later date.
Horadrim
04-27-2013, 12:53 AM
I don't think the heavy armor set looks too bad sans the helmet (I always like it when they remember to put all the chainmail details between the plates), I think the light armor and mage armor look pretty atrocious though.
It's almost like we're playing a fantasy game or something.
I actually like the melee armor. The Light Armor and Mage gear looks lack luster...
Isn't this exactly why Plastic Surgeon exists?
MarkovChain
04-27-2013, 01:04 AM
Is it me or the stats even after augment look like garbage ? Armada hauberk or bust ? I have the feeling the event will be very hard to access (300k bayld + 3 nakuual kills takes a lot of time plus a decent amount of hours killing wildkeepers reaves) and at the same time will provide minor buffs, mostly because each piece of gear is shared between many jobs.
Camiie
04-27-2013, 01:06 AM
I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna LOL when they change all the colours of the new armor to poo brown/green, and put a giant graphic of pieces of cheese all over it...to go with the whine of course.
We're not whining. We just expect better from SE.
The heavy armor looks bad, the light armor and robes looks fine to me. Light armor looks better than Thurandaut.
Yinnyth
04-27-2013, 03:27 AM
Wait, people are being serious about this? My previous post was half-assed because this looked like a half-assed attempt to find something, anything to pick a fight over.
TBH, I'm more concerned with the fact that there are pants on "Set: effects" armor sets. I don't like wearing pants, I don't wear them at home, in the grocery store, nor am I wearing them now, I'll be damned if I wear them in game. SE, listen to your subscribers, eliminate the need for pants.
On a more serious note, the demo pics looks an awful lot like the evolith system, which made a weapon description look very untidy and was a very unsuccessful system. Myself, I find most augmented pieces to look untidy in description unless the item has no native stats, such as ToTM weapons.
Dekar
04-27-2013, 04:18 AM
While the look of the armor isn't the greatest, I'm more worried about getting another worthless INT/MND/CHR/M.ACC set of gear for BRD. You can keep your MAB stuff too. I'd rather get some DD related on BRD and many other mages.
detlef
04-27-2013, 04:43 AM
While the look of the armor isn't the greatest, I'm more worried about getting another worthless INT/MND/CHR/M.ACC set of gear for BRD. You can keep your MAB stuff too. I'd rather get some DD related on BRD and many other mages.Ew no. Give me stats that can help me do my job better. The Marduk +1 set shows a great understanding of what the job does and what stats are beneficial.
Ew no. Give me stats that can help me do my job better. The Marduk +1 set shows a great understanding of what the job does and what stats are beneficial.
The Marduk set looks amazing, too.
detlef
04-27-2013, 04:47 AM
The Marduk set looks amazing, too.I think Salvage equipment represents the pinnacle of excellent gear that looked awesome. Empyrean armor was also great in that regard.
Emitremmus
04-27-2013, 04:49 AM
I think this system will pan out fine. Perhaps to sate the desires of those who are so ascetically sensitive...
Hopefully you can choose a design path along with customization of the augments. Given choices between options like the ACP/MKD/ASA/Moonshade Earring allows. That way you have pieces of equipment that can be unique rather than everyone running around with "optimal" augments.
I think Salvage equipment represents the pinnacle of excellent gear that looked awesome. Empyrean armor was also great in that regard.
Naw, Ares' looks like crap, broad-shouldered heavy suit of armor with a sunvisor instead of a helm.
Yinnyth
04-27-2013, 05:18 AM
I always disliked the way marduk looked. Not enough to complain at SE until they fixed it though. I also dislike whm and blm empyrean armor. Preferred the classic AF look. Aesthetics are a matter of opinion, that's why I find this thread so shocking. I like the light armor set and look forward to getting some myself someday. The mage armor set reminds me of SMN empyrean, which I've always thought was adorable on tarus. The heavy set looks fairly good, though the helm does sorta resemble Juggernaut. /displayhead.
Creelo
04-27-2013, 05:31 AM
Ew no. Give me stats that can help me do my job better. The Marduk +1 set shows a great understanding of what the job does and what stats are beneficial.
Or we could have both! Brd on the Light DD armor set AND the mage set??
Let's not kid ourselves though, SE would never do that because it would be too kind.
Luvbunny
04-27-2013, 05:42 AM
Or we could have both! Brd on the Light DD armor set AND the mage set?? Let's not kid ourselves though, SE would never do that because it would be too kind.
LOL Battle Bard and Melee RDM!!! You have balls of steels to even think about suggesting fun ideas like that. Yup, let's not kid ourselves indeed. Never going to happen, trying to make the jobs to be more fun and thinking out of the box is unacceptable here in FFXI. Some idiots had the nerve to make ninja as a tank jobs as well as showing the online world of their Rdm solo everything accomplishment. This pretty much drove the nails on RDM's coffin and since then being relegated to the bastard child of SE list of jobs including Summoner. Keep thinking creatively and out of the box please, never let developers puts you in the corner and forced you to play the way it is intended. ZERG everything for the next shiny please!!
Shibayama
04-27-2013, 08:46 AM
So nobody remembers wearing Ohats with Kirin's Osode as the norm huh?
I like the new models actually.
Miiyo
04-27-2013, 09:03 AM
I like the design of the mage set. I don't like the bland pastels used however. I love how vibrant Iaso/Paean is and I feel as if my char isn't even from the same game that it looks so different in comparison to the surrounding bland colors.
Design on Light melee is a bit lackluster but i think the Heavy armor is nice.
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y449/c4cody/yellow_zpsf87b5a26.jpg
Umichi
04-27-2013, 11:25 AM
Sure let them spend developing time on this when, we all know where the real armour is gonna come from which is gonna be our new af set from this expansion. give or take a year or two before we unearth those....
Xerius
04-27-2013, 02:01 PM
Sure let them spend developing time on this when, we all know where the real armour is gonna come from which is gonna be our new af set from this expansion. give or take a year or two before we unearth those....
Not likely considering they'd have to make more than 3 models and if you've looked at all of the sets that have come out over the past couple years from the new EG have all been in 3 sets with the exception of AF3. Which technically came out when 2 alliances in Dyna was still the norm. I don't know if it's the art department or if it's the development department but someone's had some cutbacks as of late.
Luvbunny
04-27-2013, 04:45 PM
Yup some serious cutbacks. It's getting worse and worse with each releases. First few rounds of Abyssea has interesting designs, a bit on the quirky side, but new and different. After that they just recolor existing gears and reusing the same assets with different stats. SoA gears just plain pathetic looking and rather on the ugly side. Who knows, a year from now, or 2 years, they may actually release newer better looking gears that are reasonable to obtains and not require you spend 50 hours just to try to have ONE chance to get your scraps items needed to enter the skirmish. The fact that you have to do so much works just to try the basic battlefield is inexcusable - give us a tag, or 3 days cool down, I don't care, but let us at least just go at it and practice and get better at DOING something that is NOT whacking da roots over and over....
Umichi
04-27-2013, 10:58 PM
could be killing the mobs. or healing people, or buffing people. or all of tat at once.
Camiie
04-27-2013, 11:26 PM
I always disliked the way marduk looked. Not enough to complain at SE until they fixed it though.
My problem with the Salvage sets was how rough the textures looked. The ideas were there, but the execution was poor for whatever reason.
These Delve armor sets are just embarrassing IMO because they seem aesthetically worse and creatively lazy compared to the armor that precedes them in the new armor hierarchy. As goofy as the Karieyh set color scheme is, it looks as if someone put a bit of effort into it. I'm hard pressed to say the same for Delve armor.
So nobody remembers wearing Ohats with Kirin's Osode as the norm huh?
Ah of course! We know what it's like to look like fools, which is why we'd like to avoid doing so in the future.
Ah of course! We know what it's like to look like fools, which is why we'd like to avoid doing so in the future.
As a PUP, I am offended~ >=(
Luvbunny
04-28-2013, 01:11 AM
could be killing the mobs. or healing people, or buffing people. or all of tat at once.
Except you get more bayld by auto attacking and unleashing WS once in awhile compared to doing everything at once.
Keyln
04-28-2013, 01:26 AM
Just take a page from almost any other FF to get an idea on what some cool high-level armor designs are, SE. You got it right with the Naakual weapons I think.
You mean armor with lots of belts and zippers? *zing!*
Luvbunny
04-28-2013, 01:41 AM
I mean seriously, the staffs have the entire FF lore that is worth over 20 years to draw inspiration from. Even if they are sticking to FF 5-FF 12 for inspirations, those are a rich sources to get inspired from. Heck a blatant copy from some of these "classics" FF games would be welcomed addition. It's not like they don't have them digitalized already - you can see the PSP games like Dissidia full of new reinterpretation. What about the villains armors from FFs games? They should do fan service, and give us several of those FF "famous" weapons from other FF games.
I mean seriously, the staffs have the entire FF lore that is worth over 20 years to draw inspiration from. Even if they are sticking to FF 5-FF 12 for inspirations, those are a rich sources to get inspired from. Heck a blatant copy from some of these "classics" FF games would be welcomed addition. It's not like they don't have them digitalized already - you can see the PSP games like Dissidia full of new reinterpretation. What about the villains armors from FFs games? They should do fan service, and give us several of those FF "famous" weapons from other FF games.
No. No, no, no.. If I see a Gunblade or a Buster Sword, I will be sorely disappointed with SE.
PeaceWalker
04-28-2013, 02:40 AM
No. No, no, no.. If I see a Gunblade or a Buster Sword, I will be sorely disappointed with SE.
You should remember that the fans who would appreciate this are also the fans who crave for fanservice.
Camiie
04-28-2013, 02:49 AM
You mean armor with lots of belts and zippers? *zing!*
Sorry, Lulu is using ALL the belts right now.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091225054823/finalfantasy/images/2/25/Lulu.jpg
Belmonts
04-28-2013, 07:38 AM
Well, we all know Square Enix's motto for almost every gear set: "Be ubber, look like s**t" LOL
Umichi
04-30-2013, 01:13 AM
Except you get more bayld by auto attacking and unleashing WS once in awhile compared to doing everything at once.
notice my blatant use of "Or"
Momokiri
04-30-2013, 01:27 AM
It's just kind of lame that Armadaberk from 2004 still looks cooler than the gear they've finally decided to (potentially, depending on possible augments) replace it with. Sorry, that's weaksauce and disappointing to me. Call it QQ if you like. They could have done better.
Tennotsukai
04-30-2013, 02:10 AM
I often wonder if they'll ever release newer jse in the future. Perhaps, make final forms of these armors into job specific gear somehow but changing the way these lesser models look according to the job?
Luvbunny
04-30-2013, 04:30 AM
I often wonder if they'll ever release newer jse in the future. Perhaps, make final forms of these armors into job specific gear somehow but changing the way these lesser models look according to the job?
Just wait for Abyssea Version 2.0 when they will release AF4 gear sets :) Give it two years tops before they cave in and do another blockbuster expansion similar to Abyssea. They will do it sooner if FF14 ARR fail to garner subscribers and crash and burn again. Probably will give us FFXI HD Remastered for PS4 and next Xbox. They always have contingency plan - just in case.
Crusader81
04-30-2013, 08:19 AM
You guys are suger coating the hell out of this game.. LMAO
I mean really? Anyone who had to level in SKY as blm with ERRANT it's all up hill after that...
Face it, XI game gear is the same it's always been, you're just getting used to seeing better looking gear in other games.