Has anyone done Arch Omega/Ultima and Neo Limbus low man?

[Kiyara]

Just curious if anyone has attempted Arch Omega or Ultimate and Neo Limbus in general with only 6 people and is that even possible to do those NMs with 6. Just curious at people's experiences and recommendations for this. Thanks.

P.S. Looking to do with a standard party setup (blm, sam, whm, brd, pld, and blu).

[Concerned4FFxi]

Before the perfeect defense adjustment, I used to low man arch omega occasionally. I'm not on as much as I used to be because I feel lost now with the BS REM/skirmish crap, but I'll hold that for a sec.

I don't think a blm is a good idea, to be honest. My first fight we went, pld, sam, drk, smn, brd, sch, and a whm mule. Was the first time fighting him, so I made a bunch of mistakes. Firstly, theres only two modes for him. First 25% he has serious pdt, i was using holy, banish, attonement, and the sch had dots and tier 3 nukes and the smn used magic bp's to get him down to 75%, where he stands up and has no more pdt but mdt.

I had the sam on standby for the pod. With ochain pld the only thing you need worry about is pods. They will kill you.

I asked the DD's to take turns tping, but that didn't happen. once DD's start, they all wanna get into a pissing contest, which in this case killed them both.

Once they unweakened, we had about 2minutes left. The smn tried to 2hr, and since the Sam was weakened, he decided to stand next to the mages and he didn't watch for pods anymore.

Pod exploded as the smn was summoning alex. I didn't see the pod myslef, or I'd have put up rampart, which with my damage taken gear and shell V should have been enough for me to survive. But, it was a total wipe and very disappointing.

I've had successful runs since, and I always go wth about 6, so you can definitly get it done woth six.

What I learned:
Blm? no way! Sch, hands down, or even a rdm over a blm. Once he stands up at 75%, nuking is pointless. At 100-76%, that blm is gonna get squashed first time he nukes that nm! Sch is good for your aoe regen, and can nuke. I'd go with a sch instead of a blm. 2-3 dd's. pld. whm. brd, that's 6 with 2 dd and 7 with a third dd.

i use the brd for refresh and march/minuet. A whm/rdm first time fighting it will proably run out of mp. You need some type of refresher, be it a rdm or a brd. I'm always curing myself on pld for the hate and to give the mages time to cure the dd's instead of me, and I'll say my mp on this fight gets low and so dop the mage's so i'd bring a rdm or a brd, for sure.

So, in that case could go, sch (rdm or brd) pld dd dd dd

i only think the whm is needed for a fast aoe cure and for the dd's, a sch or rdm plus the tank curing itself is fine. Now I don't swap into my ws set when I fight this clown, just in case he hits me with pilepitch or something nasty I don't wanna be out of my tank set when it lands. Pile pitch is nasty, but it rests hate if i'm not mistaken, so you won't die from it, but you need get hate baack asap.

Thing is this, the nm uses alot of AOE attacks. So while the tank's survivng fine, the dd's drop like flies. Also, there's hate to control as well, and with low man you really are pressed against the clock. Getting him to 75% is the most important time saver. It's close when it takes 15minutes just to get him to 75%, but I usually spend half the fight on just the first part. Once he stands up the DD's can take him down fast, but they need to know when to back off for curews and for hate.

In this respect, I wish more DD's played healing jobs, so they would understand that you can't just auto smash shit, sometimes you need to move back and let the whm catch up!

remember, your fighting the clock. get him to stand up asap, then put those DD oin it asap, but not to the point that hate's out of control and your dd's are always 50% health or less, that's a no no. When a DD starts to take hate that dd needs to back off, I tell my guys all the time, a dead dd is no dd. You can have a dd wait for the pod, or tell a competent dd to be on the look out for pods and not to fully engross him/herself with the main nm.

For arch ultima, I have yet to fight him becaue I do not have a finished aegis. However, i hear pets do just fine on him, however I've no clue if 6 bsts are enough to kill in under 30 minutes.

[Brytor]

Just curious if anyone has attempted Arch Omega or Ultimate and Neo Limbus in general with only 6 people and is that even possible to do those NMs with 6. Just curious at people's experiences and recommendations for this. Thanks.

P.S. Looking to do with a standard party setup (blm, sam, whm, brd, pld, and blu).

Pre the defense changes did it with WHM SCH BRD MNK MNK MNK.

Now tend to do it with PLD PLD WHM Buff (RDM or BRD) and the rest will be RNG (if relic or /DRG), SMN, or BLM.

[Fynlar]

Pre the defense changes did it with WHM SCH BRD MNK MNK MNK.

This still works fine btw. Most of the TP moves from Omega ignore defense anyway (the two primary physical moves are Pile Pitch and Colossal Blow, and only -PDT reduces the damage from those)