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Ordoric
03-22-2011, 03:05 AM
Who would like to see a crystal wars movie?
like a theatrical. centering around the nations and the things going on durning campaingn? personaly id love to see some of the semi notorious NPC's fighting Zeid in his prime shantotto ect. anyone else
Flunklesnarkin
03-22-2011, 05:42 AM
Video games rarely do well when made into movies.. and if they do well its not because of storyline
look at resident evil.. it has a horrible storyline.. but people don't go for that..
they just like the explosions and fight scenes.. and who can hate on smashing zombies >:U
Emitremmus
03-22-2011, 05:45 AM
Well people expect too much from a movie based upon a game. I thought Spirits Within was a decent movie. It wasn't like OMG, but it wasn't like...Gigli or something bad like that either. I'm down to watch a FFXI based movie.
FFXI Online The Movie The Game is what I would be worried about, lol.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 05:49 AM
SE doesn't need another movie, then they'll have to add another letter to their abriviation afterward.
Andevom
03-22-2011, 05:53 AM
Video games rarely do well when made into movies..
Goodnight folks!
Amanie
03-22-2011, 05:55 AM
if i had millions and millions of dollars to blow, id make it.... in 3D so you know it will sell
Chronofantasy
03-22-2011, 05:59 AM
Well people expect too much from a movie based upon a game. I thought Spirits Within was a decent movie. It wasn't like OMG, but it wasn't like...Gigli or something bad like that either. I'm down to watch a FFXI based movie.
FFXI Online The Movie The Game is what I would be worried about, lol.
I quite enjoyed FF: Spirits within too. It would've been better though and probably would've been more successful if it didn't have Final Fantasy in the title but maybe a different title by Square since most people expected more out of it to relate more to the Final Fantasy worlds.
The movie had a few tiny things FF related like the mention of Gaia and meteor I think and a character named Sid and maybe a few other things I missed, but the movie was too Sci-Fi-like and FF is more fantasy-like.
FF7: Advent Children did a lot better though and I wouldn't mind there being a FFXI theatrical release but I think I would actually much prefer to see other FF games made into a movie before FFXI. I think SE would probably profit best with keeping FF as games though since making a movie for FF is a bit risky.
Komori
03-22-2011, 06:00 AM
I'd pay for it.
Who would like to see a crystal wars movie?
like a theatrical. centering around the nations and the things going on durning campaingn? personaly id love to see some of the semi notorious NPC's fighting Zeid in his prime shantotto ect. anyone else
Square Enix has proved themselves a lot better at making video games than movies, so i'm not so sure if this is a good idea lol
Haldarn
03-22-2011, 06:12 AM
<3 Advent Children.
Spirits Within not so much.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 06:17 AM
Perhaps SE would do better then Square. lol
vungster
03-22-2011, 06:17 AM
<3 Advent Children.
Spirits Within not so much.
I thought Spirit's Within was amazing for its time. The cost of production and the production that went into it, the story, the script, the humor, the characters represented what Square was good at doing, building character. I think somewhere Roger Ebert said that he wanted to see stuff like this be continued on American shores.
But due to it bombing box office, it wasn't. So sadness all around lol
Also Japanese movies are different from American movies, and I think Spirit's Within played more like an anime, you know with deeper plots and weirder ideas than American studios make.
As for FFXI movie, be awesome to see it happen, I think the cutscenes in FFXI are longer than most FF games.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 06:20 AM
Yeah they did such an awsome job doing motion capture and animating over it. lol
vungster
03-22-2011, 06:23 AM
Oh and FFXI: AC's art direction was freaking amazing. Shows how artistic Square is, wonder why it didn't get nominated for Oscar, probably straight to DVD rules or something.
edit: FF: AC I mean
Zyeriis
03-22-2011, 06:27 AM
A think a Chains of Promathia movie would sell better.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 06:27 AM
A think a Chains of Promathia movie would sell better.Prishe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haldarn
03-22-2011, 06:29 AM
Also Japanese movies are different from American movies, and I think Spirit's Within played more like an anime, you know with deeper plots and weirder ideas than American studios make.
Was blown away by the animation, but I honestly thought the story and characters were weak. I watched it for a third time last year and can't remember any of their names...
Same goes with FFXIII imo. Beautiful, but awful characters and plot.
Would love to see an FFXI movie. Would be very interested to see the story played out from start to finish over the course of a few hours (perhaps from the main NPCs points of view), rather than the half-a-decade i's taken me so far. Although not in the way of the in-game cutscenes strung together like Xenosaga did. That was painful to watch.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 06:31 AM
Was blown away by the animation, but I honestly thought the story and characters were weak. I watched it for a third time last year and can't remember any of their names...
Same goes with FFXIII imo. Beautiful, but awful characters and plot.
Would love to see an FFXI movie. Would be very interested to see the story played out from start to finish over the course of a few hours (perhaps from the main NPCs points of view), rather than the half-a-decade i's taken me so far. Although not in the way of the in-game cutscenes strung together like Xenosaga did. That was painful to watch.It was that 50,000th individual hair that did them in.
vungster
03-22-2011, 06:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGI38w0HhPA
Do you see this type of camera movement in Alice in Wonderland? I think not.
I thought Spirit's Within was amazing for its time. The cost of production and the production that went into it, the story, the script, the humor, the characters represented what Square was good at doing, building character. I think somewhere Roger Ebert said that he wanted to see stuff like this be continued on American shores.
But due to it bombing box office, it wasn't. So sadness all around lol
Also Japanese movies are different from American movies, and I think Spirit's Within played more like an anime, you know with deeper plots and weirder ideas than American studios make.
As for FFXI movie, be awesome to see it happen, I think the cutscenes in FFXI are longer than most FF games.
Well I respect the fact you liked Spirit's Within, but I thought it was horrible. The characters were dull, the plot made no sense. I deffinitely wasted a few hours of my life watching it.
I've never seen advent children, so maybe it was better. It would be hard not to be.
Movie making is a whole different thing than video game making. It's not an easy leap to make, and I do believe if Square Enix is to have any success at it they would need to get some outside talent.
I'd pay to see it. I think FFXI's story is pretty cool. :)
I had actually debated animating a storyline, but man...animating takes forever, yo.
Zyeriis
03-22-2011, 06:34 AM
Well I respect the fact you liked Spirit's Within, but I thought it was horrible. The characters were dull, the plot made no sense. I deffinitely wasted a few hours of my life watching it.
I've never seen advent children, so maybe it was better. It would be hard not to be.
Movie making is a whole different thing than video game making. It's not an easy leap to make, and I do believe if Square Enix is to have any success at it they would need to get some outside talent.
If you had watched it, you would not have said that.
vungster
03-22-2011, 06:37 AM
Well I respect the fact you liked Spirit's Within, but I thought it was horrible. The characters were dull, the plot made no sense. I deffinitely wasted a few hours of my life watching it.
Yeah, no movie is absolute, nor should they be I just like it thats all I said.
If you had watched it, you would not have said that.
Maybe Zyeriis, but I doubt it - least from my perspective.
CGI may look cool, but they are still, in the end - just graphics to me. I think they have their place in movies, but not as main characters. They seem hollow and void of life to me. I've always felt it is very important to have something that is actually real if you want to portray real emotions, which is what makes any good movie good.
In Video Games you can get away with it because you are actually interacting in the story by role-playing as the main character. You are more involved so you will feel more like part of the story. In a movie you are just watching it, so it is very important to have good actors and actresses portraying realistic emotions to draw me in.
This is just my opinion though. There have been a lot of animated movies and cartoons that have done well at the box office, so it is possible to be successful doing it. I just won't be one of the ones buying the ticket.
Video games rarely do well when made into movies.. and if they do well its not because of storyline
look at resident evil.. it has a horrible storyline.. but people don't go for that..
they just like the explosions and fight scenes.. and who can hate on smashing zombies >:U
I see your nonsense and raise you MK1+MK2.
Zyeriis
03-22-2011, 06:54 AM
Maybe Zyeriis, but I doubt it - least from my perspective.
CGI may look cool, but they are still, in the end - just graphics to me. I think they have their place in movies, but not as main characters. They seem hollow and void of life to me. I've always felt it is very important to have something that is actually real if you want to portray real emotions, which is what makes any good movie good.
In Video Games you can get away with it because you are actually interacting in the story by role-playing as the main character. You are more involved so you will feel more like part of the story. In a movie you are just watching it, so it is very important to have good actors and actresses portraying realistic emotions to draw me in.
This is just my opinion though. There have been a lot of animated movies and cartoons that have done well at the box office, so it is possible to be successful doing it. I just won't be one of the ones buying the ticket.
I was stating the Advent Children was more devoid of story and character then any movie I've ever seen. Advent Children was all CGI and fight scenes, those were it's only draws.
I was stating the Advent Children was more devoid of story and character then any movie I've ever seen. Advent Children was all CGI and fight scenes, those were it's only draws.
OH i see what you was saying now...
I thought you meant I would not have been talking down Square's ability to make movies had i seen Advent Children.
So you were basically agreeing with me. Cool :)
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 06:57 AM
I was stating the Advent Children was more devoid of story and character then any movie I've ever seen.Wow, ecatly like the game itself.
Wow, ecatly like the game itself.
Wasn't Advent Children based off Final Fantasy 7?
If so i'm going to have to disagree with you there. FF7 had a very cool story and interesting characters. It's only flaw was a lack of challenging gameplay.
As I said before, CGI can work on video games because you are actually intereacting in the storyline yourself - which helps bring the characters to life, so it works. With movies it's a bit different.
Final Fantasy 7 actually had a mentally unstable hero with multiple personality disorder. The villain was genetically altered from the cells of some alien that landed on earth. How can you say it was devoid of story and character lol
7 was some of Square's finest work as far as story telling goes. Easily.
Now if it wasn't, and advent children was based off some other game - then just ignore this post lol
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 07:09 AM
If so i'm going to have to disagree with you there. FF7 had a very cool story and interesting characters.Try this perspective. Hack the game and walk through it. You'll see that there's no character devopement and next to no story.
FVIII actualy had a better story, they just stretched it too thin.
viion
03-22-2011, 07:11 AM
i didnt like advent children story much, i just watched it for the CGI'z
Try this perspective. Hack the game and walk through it. You'll see that there's no character devopement and next to no story.
FVIII actualy had a better story, they just stretched it too thin.
I thought it had plenty of character development.
Cloud came to grips with his own grand dellusions about himself and accepted who he was.
Sephiroth learned he was not natural, went insane, and lashed out at the people who created him.
Cid learned what a prick he was being when confronted with the actual loss of the women who loved him.
I could go on forever.
I'm not good with roman numerals but i'm gonig to assume VIII = 8?
If so I agree, 8's plot was better, but not by much - and I disagree it was stretched too thin. I think it was delivered expertly with no major flaws. But just because I think 8's plot was better doesn't mean I can't appreciate 7's also. Both games had excellent story lines and characters.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 07:21 AM
If so I agree, 8's plot was better, but not by much - and I disagree it was stretched too thin. I think it was delivered expertly with no major flaws. But just because I think 8's plot was better doesn't mean I can't appreciate 7's also. Both games had excellent story lines and characters.No I mean it was 1 disk worth of strong story line over 4. lol
Ordoric
03-22-2011, 07:22 AM
OK back to 11 not 7 lol i just think id be cool most of the content is there from our story lines ha ha i thought it might be entertainning
No I mean it was 1 disk worth of strong story line over 4. lol
I'm not exactly sure what you mean so I won't comment.
I'll just say this, we both agree FF8 had a great story.
jeffanddane
03-22-2011, 07:25 AM
FFXI would be a great movie . . . If Americans had nothing to do with it lmfao. And it would have to be all CG no bad actors please . . .
Zeroe
03-22-2011, 07:27 AM
Sorry man, this is an MMO. Wouldnt feel right being a movie. The elements are to great to compress into a 2hour film. Although I might be interested ^^
Flunklesnarkin
03-22-2011, 07:27 AM
Live actors only xD
george clooney could be cloud
jim carrey could be sephiroth
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 07:30 AM
Live actors only xD
george clooney could be cloud
jim carrey could be sephirothNo, but they would just end up doing motion capture for all of it again.
Amanie
03-22-2011, 07:39 AM
SE can make great stories and characters, and even more amazing visuals. now if they could string together a bunch of CGI cutscenes like in MGS then you got a pretty good movie in the works
FFXI would be a great movie . . . If Americans had nothing to do with it lmfao. And it would have to be all CG no bad actors please . . .
Americans make some very good movies, and part of the reason we do that is we don't see ourselves as the only talent in the world. We go global and recruit the best talent out here and dont' get bogged down in meaningless differences like what country you were born in. Some of our very best actors and actresses come from other countries for example, and that's why so many of our films are awesome and so many of the actors and actresses living in California are foreign-born. Tim Curry, Anthony Hopkins...ect
So you suggesting Americans ruin films just doesn't line up with the facts.
Square would benefit greatly if they are looking to branch out into the movie business by resorting to similiar methods, because no offense to Square - but their movies suck and could use some american influence. Their games are good, but not their movies.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 07:45 AM
now if they could string together a bunch of CGI cutscenes like in MGS then you got a pretty good movie in the worksThen you'd have Xeno Gears again. >.<
Live actors only xD
george clooney could be cloud
jim carrey could be sephiroth
Ugh...I pray to God no one ever hires you to do their casting for them lol
Ben Foster would make an excellent cloud. George Clooney...not so much. I don't think I've ever seen him do a single role i thought was good. He is boring actor who only gets roles cause women like the way he looks. As far as Jim Carrey and him playing as Sephiroth... sounds like a demented nightmare to me so no thanks. That's so scary it's not even funny, and I would never go see such a movie lol
I'm having a hard time visualing a good actor for Sephiroth. Ben Knightly perhaps, if they could make him young enough looking for the part. No one plays an insane bad guy as good as him. No one.
vungster
03-22-2011, 07:48 AM
I think actors and their agents choose movies that ultimately belong to the actor's choice whether to play in them or not, and that defines their personal career. But they don't represent American film making as a whole.
Amanie
03-22-2011, 07:50 AM
why are we casting for FF7 movie when we should be casting for FFXI movie?
Alderin
03-22-2011, 07:50 AM
Video games rarely do well when made into movies.. and if they do well its not because of storyline
look at resident evil.. it has a horrible storyline.. but people don't go for that..
they just like the explosions and fight scenes.. and who can hate on smashing zombies >:U
Especially a short-haired smexy actress running around killing them.
Much like Tomb Raider - terrible story line but who doesn't want to watch Angelina Joli run around in hot-pants shotting up egyptian gods? I mean come on... even most of the ladies on this forum would agree to that I am sure.
Anyway back on topic - I actually enjoyed Advent Children - The copy I had was in Japanese and did not have subtitles so I had no idea what it was about - however I still thoroughly enjoyed the movie.
Apart from that - yeah Video Games made into moves usually reak and make the video game look bad. (Tomb Raider being the exception of course due to the above reason).
I think actors and their agents choose movies that ultimately belong to the actor's choice whether to play in them or not, and that defines their personal career. But they don't represent American film making as a whole.
American films represent American Film making vungster. Enough said.
Just as I recognize Square's ability to churn out excellent video games, people need to give their anti-americanism a rest and appreciate that Holywood can put out some really good movies - and both industries could lean a thing or two from the other.
Amanie
03-22-2011, 07:55 AM
FFXI casting call!!!
ill start it off with an obvious fan service
shadowlord - james earl jones
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 07:57 AM
FFXI casting call!!!
ill start it off with an obvious fan service
shadowlord - james earl jonesIt should be Jimmy "JJ" Walker because the Shadowlord is DYNOMITE!
vungster
03-22-2011, 07:59 AM
Oh, no don't get me wrong I'm a fan of American movies, being that I'm from America: Scorsese, Coppola, Coen brothers, 2 of the 4 listed aren't from America. Or I could be wrong they could all be born in America, not really looking up wiki.
why are we casting for FF7 movie when we should be casting for FFXI movie?
Final Fantasy 11 is a great game, the best MMO on the market today in my opinion. But that's primarily due to the gameplay if you ask me. It's plot - while not bad, isn't exactly stellar either - and would be very difficult to make into a movie. But, if such a thing would be attempted, I would suggest focusing on the shadow lord as the main villain. He is by far the coolest bad guy on the game.
Amanie
03-22-2011, 07:59 AM
zeid - Michael Clarke Duncan
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 08:03 AM
zeid - Michael Clarke DuncanI have no idea who that is.
Oh, no don't get me wrong I'm a fan of American movies, being that I'm from America: Scorsese, Coppola, Coen brothers, 2 of the 4 listed aren't from America. Or I could be wrong they could all be born in America, not really looking up wiki.
Ok I apologize then that i misunderstood you.
But the point i was trying to make is what makes the american film industry so good is we recruit the best talent globally and give them the full appreciatiation they deserve. We don't get bogged down in nationalities. Just the amount of actors and actresses we have employed from england alone is countless for example.
vungster
03-22-2011, 08:05 AM
No need to apologize :) I'm just say'n!
zeid - Michael Clarke Duncan
Lol...now that is an interesting idea.
I have no idea who that is.
It's that really huge black guy who played in Armegeddon. I think his nickname was "bear" on the movie. Appropriate also. He is probably bigger than the actual galka who is Zied lol
He also played on the Green Mile with Tom Hanks (a crappy movie). He's a decent actor and probably could play a good Zeid. He also played on that Scorpion King movie with "the rock". He was the only character on that movie I didn't wanna strangle.
Icestein
03-22-2011, 08:18 AM
I don't think FFXI's story is well known or admired enough to be fiscally viable. However, one day we will lose the ability to revisit FFXI's story, and FFXIV's story. Any of the other games I am able to revisit, but one day the server's will go down, and the land of vana'diel will be silenced forever.
I wouldn't mind them conserving the cutscenes, so that those wishing to revisit the storyline are able to do so.
Septimus
03-22-2011, 08:23 AM
An interesting plot in a video game is very different from an interesting plot in a movie. Honestly, I don't think that it would be possible to fit the Crystal War plot into two hours, too much interesting stuff that they would have to cover between what was going on in the nations and the northlands.
But it would be amazing to see Fenrir summoned on the big screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk-Ebjix7oA)...
I don't think FFXI's story is well known or admired enough to be fiscally viable. However, one day we will lose the ability to revisit FFXI's story, and FFXIV's story. Any of the other games I am able to revisit, but one day the server's will go down, and the land of vana'diel will be silenced forever.
I wouldn't mind them conserving the cutscenes, so that those wishing to revisit the storyline are able to do so.
Doesn't matter if it's well known or not. If it was a good movie people would watch it I think.
But like I said in an earlier post, Final Fantasy's 11 plot would be very difficult to put into a movie. It's just so complex with so many different characters and doesn't really have any singular personalities strong enough to support a movie role.
Would be an interesting experiment though. Just please do not put those 3 annoying taru brats from COP into the movie lol
Amanie
03-22-2011, 08:32 AM
the crystal war movie would be very much like the lord of the rings. actually if you really want to make any FF good, they would all be very very long or broken up into many 2hr parts
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 08:36 AM
the crystal war movie would be very much like the lord of the rings. actually if you really want to make any FF good, they would all be very very long or broken up into many 2hr partsNo, then they'd spend 3 movies walking to the Shadowlord instead of just taking an airship. >.<
Amanie
03-22-2011, 08:39 AM
there werent that many airships during the war, they were invented towards the end
the crystal war movie would be very much like the lord of the rings. actually if you really want to make any FF good, they would all be very very long or broken up into many 2hr parts
Lord of the Rings was a horrible movie. The only part played half-decent was Gandalf and Saruman. Every other part was an insult to tolkein's work. Frodo was reduced to a whiney crybaby courtesy of Elijah Woods - and he will forever have my scorn for such an act.
But - that being said, i will have to admit this and District 9 are the only two movies I have ever seen where the CG characters actually showed some real personality. Gollem was actually one of my favorite characters from the movie. So...perhaps this leads us to the real answer on how to make FF11 a successful movie. Employ Peter Jackson to do the CG characters for Square Enix.
Angelsasuke
03-22-2011, 08:55 AM
This is strictly my opinion, not based on any fact.. lol even thoug alot of my friend share this view
i think FFXI could become a decent movie(CGI of course), if not good , if they
1. dont do like resident evil and invent a story line that has nothing to do with the game.
2. Like SF not use moves and abilites the people are waiting to see and/or change backround history.(example making shantoto say a hume from sandoria XD)
3. Like Avater: last airbender let M. Night direct it
4. Like Harry Potter try to fit extreme amounts of story in a 70min movie, and think people will be satisfied with huge cuts, big breaks in story and jumping from place to place and leaving the veiwer dumbfounded.
These movies werent fail because of the object they were based on, they failed because of the director's vision/story writers. With Spirits Within they opened the CGI door: wasnt great but the CGI looked awesome. Advent Children was for FF like for obvious reasons, CGI looked great and story line was OK coulda been better. soo FFXI movie should be the next step up they already have story and checkpoints just need to fill in blank. What lead up to he start of the opening, what happend during the perios in between so much room for a movie maybe even 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVsBONItA6o
the greatest ffxi movie ever created. When I first found this quite awhile ago I was jamming to it in the office and got about 7 people hooked lol.
vungster
03-22-2011, 09:04 AM
<.< hahahahahahaahaha
Ordoric
03-22-2011, 09:04 AM
well in reference to casting and not bashing shal i start another thread
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 09:05 AM
well in reference to casting and not bashing shal i start another threadThe topic says nothing to the contrary.
Atomic646
03-22-2011, 09:09 AM
would be one LOOOONG ASS MOVIE
Thuggin
03-22-2011, 09:16 AM
SE doesn't need another movie, then they'll have to add another letter to their abriviation afterward.
Lol, SES? And how do you have 1100 posts already? The forums just opened 2 weeks ago lol
Tsukino_Kaji
03-22-2011, 09:21 AM
Lol, SES? And how do you have 1100 posts already? The forums just opened 2 weeks ago lolIt's all been since the servers went down. I didn't touch the forum before then.
I was thinking SEB my self.
Thuggin
03-22-2011, 09:23 AM
<3 Advent Children.
Spirits Within not so much.
If they keep it relative to the game play, might be interesting to watch.
wish12oz
03-22-2011, 09:27 AM
If it had notuglyanthrocatgirls, I would go see it, and buy the DVD.
Angelsasuke
03-22-2011, 09:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8DlImV1k9w&feature=related this movie is soo much better... cuz tarus are way cooler....
Maybe Zyeriis, but I doubt it - least from my perspective.
CGI may look cool, but they are still, in the end - just graphics to me. I think they have their place in movies, but not as main characters. They seem hollow and void of life to me. I've always felt it is very important to have something that is actually real if you want to portray real emotions, which is what makes any good movie good.
In Video Games you can get away with it because you are actually interacting in the story by role-playing as the main character. You are more involved so you will feel more like part of the story. In a movie you are just watching it, so it is very important to have good actors and actresses portraying realistic emotions to draw me in.
This is just my opinion though. There have been a lot of animated movies and cartoons that have done well at the box office, so it is possible to be successful doing it. I just won't be one of the ones buying the ticket.
I don't understand how you can honestly say that Toy Story 1-3 weren't good movies.