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hordecore
03-22-2011, 12:46 AM
We would like to express our sincere condolence and pray for the loss of people by the Tohoku-Chihou-Taiheiyo-Oki Earthquake occurred on March 11, and would like to extend our deep sorrow to the people and their families suffering damage.

We would also like to make our deep apologies for the concerns and inconveniences caused due to the incident of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station and the leakage of radioactive substances to the people living in the surrounding area of the power station, the people of Fukushima Prefecture, and broader society.
Currently, we are putting all our efforts to cease the situation becoming any worse, with the support from the national government, related ministries and government offices, and by closely cooperating with them.

Further, due to the serious damages caused to our nuclear power stations, thermal power stations and transmission systems, despite our efforts, to maintain stable supply of electricity has become impossible. As a result, we have regrettably decided to carry out planned blackouts, and we deeply apologize for all the inconveniences caused.
We are doing our utmost best to restore our facilities in order to be able to stably supply electricity as soon as possible. We apologize for the disruptions caused, and appreciate your cooperation and understanding in saving power and planned blackouts.

March 2011
The Tokyo Electric Power Company, Incorporated
Masataka Shimizu
President
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so no FFXI wont be running anytime soon in japan unless they relocate the servers do you want to play in stable net environment? or you don't care and want play with Disconnections every now and then?

Xeth
03-22-2011, 12:49 AM
If they are actually scheduled and not random, I would be fine with "set times" to log out. After all, the blackouts are only 3.5 hours long, and usually only once a day, since they are 12 hours ahead of me, chances are, I'd be asleep during said blackout.

Fearforever
03-22-2011, 01:01 AM
As long as they shut down FFXI before the blackout peroid occurs then I'd be fine with FFXI being down for 3,5 hours per day.

If they kept FFXI on and a powercut happened they could be in for a world of troubles if their database server crashes and data is lost

Nitrous24
03-22-2011, 01:02 AM
I highly doubt a server farm like theirs has no redundant power supply in case of power outages... otherwise a thunderstorm could kill all the data.

Vivik
03-22-2011, 01:05 AM
I have read from several posters that the building the servers are in is not in an area subject to blackouts. Not sure how credible the information is though.

Fearforever
03-22-2011, 01:09 AM
I have read from several posters that the building the servers are in is not in an area subject to blackouts. Not sure how credible the information is though.

Makes sence considering most other businesses, including Sony and car manufacters are not subject to them i guess because businesses need the power or they'll make a huge loss.

NightDagger
03-22-2011, 01:22 AM
i would take unstable power over nothing. Heck let us play for 6 hours a day say 4-10pm Est. & we would be fine with it.

Fearforever
03-22-2011, 01:23 AM
They couldnt do that tho because it'd favour 1/3 of their playerbase, you cant make the NA's happy and piss off the EU and JP playerbase

annewandering
03-22-2011, 01:27 AM
Right now I doubt that any time up is going to anger any of their player base.


on a picky side note. sense is spelled sense not sence. not picking any one out but I swear this is the most misspelled word on this forum. lol.

RAIST
03-22-2011, 01:27 AM
http://www.tokyoarchitecture.info/Building/4083/Shinjuku-Bunka-Quint.php

click the "Map This" link and poke around their neighborhood a bit, and maybe you'll understand why they had to conserve power, regardless if they were dealing with blackouts or not....

Chatokun
03-22-2011, 01:36 AM
I highly doubt a server farm like theirs has no redundant power supply in case of power outages... otherwise a thunderstorm could kill all the data.

Agreed, the HQ of my company has 2 generators on site, 1 near the building and another one on campus several buildings away. The first one is a diesel one that turns on pretty quickly to be able to catch the servers before they run around of power on battery backup. The second affects some of our other buildings.

Still, we could keep our servers running through a blackout(and have, a few years ago we had constant rolling blackouts, and had to rely on it quite a bit). While I'm sure SE has a system like that, I imagine staying up on fuel based generators would be pretty expensive, as iirc, Japan's fuel costs are almost double ours. (This site (http://www.kshitij.com/research/petrol.shtml) shows it at $5.19/gal last year)

NightDagger
03-22-2011, 01:37 AM
http://www.tokyoarchitecture.info/Building/4083/Shinjuku-Bunka-Quint.php

click the "Map This" link and poke around their neighborhood a bit, and maybe you'll understand why they had to conserve power, regardless if they were dealing with blackouts or not....

But power consumption is power consumption. Whether they are located within blocks of a hospital or 20 miles away they will still be drawing the same power. So if Toyota, Honda & Sony are all up & running their is no reason SE will not be. They will be drawing no where near the power these companies are and need to resume their business again before a total fail to both games.

Alhanelem
03-22-2011, 01:38 AM
The last I checked, SE's data center wasn't in a blackout zone (And this web server is part of it).

An apology statement from TEPCO has no bearing on when or if the servers will be coming back. They are working to bring some disabled plants back online which according to the information I've read will bring supply close to or above average demand (but not peak demand).

Get CocaCola to unplug it's vending machines that each drain the power of a small house, and they can turn the servers back on. :p

While those factories will probably be operating at limited capacity (for more reasons than one), it's pretty essential for them to be operating in the wake of the disaster destroying so much stuff. That said, I'm pretty sure a car part manufacturing plant's power demands are higher than SE's.

Service might not be back this week, but I don't think it will be the months that some people are suggesting.

RAIST
03-22-2011, 01:47 AM
Agreed, the HQ of my company has 2 generators on site, 1 near the building and another one on campus several buildings away. The first one is a diesel one that turns on pretty quickly to be able to catch the servers before they run around of power on battery backup. The second affects some of our other buildings.

Still, we could keep our servers running through a blackout(and have, a few years ago we had constant rolling blackouts, and had to rely on it quite a bit). While I'm sure SE has a system like that, I imagine staying up on fuel based generators would be pretty expensive, as iirc, Japan's fuel costs are almost double ours. (This site (http://www.kshitij.com/research/petrol.shtml) shows it at $5.19/gal last year)

There have been issues with fuel supply. At one point, they had to ration it to the equivalent of roughly 5 gallons, and stations were still running out. Could have also been something they considered happening.

annewandering
03-22-2011, 01:51 AM
But power consumption is power consumption. Whether they are located within blocks of a hospital or 20 miles away they will still be drawing the same power. So if Toyota, Honda & Sony are all up & running their is no reason SE will not be. They will be drawing no where near the power these companies are and need to resume their business again before a total fail to both games.
Actually it does make a difference where to power is used. Other wise there would be no diverting. Diverting from where if its all in one grid?

Cream_Soda
03-22-2011, 01:51 AM
i would take unstable power over nothing. Heck let us play for 6 hours a day say 4-10pm Est. & we would be fine with it.
Don't you mean 4-10pm jst? lol.

RAIST
03-22-2011, 01:53 AM
The last I checked, SE's data center wasn't in a blackout zone (And this web server is part of it).

An apology statement from TEPCO has no bearing on when or if the servers will be coming back. They are working to bring some disabled plants back online which according to the information I've read will bring supply close to or above average demand (but not peak demand).

Get CocaCola to unplug it's vending machines that each drain the power of a small house, and they can turn the servers back on. :p

While those factories will probably be operating at limited capacity (for more reasons than one), it's pretty essential for them to be operating in the wake of the disaster destroying so much stuff. That said, I'm pretty sure a car part manufacturing plant's power demands are higher than SE's.

Service might not be back this week, but I don't think it will be the months that some people are suggesting.

Those plants start coming on Tuesday if I recall right.. and they will be pulling in 150MW more power to the grid as well. And as for the vending machines...I don't like the thought of keeping them running either, but... at least they are providing food/drink vs. a form of entertainment. Don't think that justifies the extra drain, but still the point is we are talking about a game vs. life sustaining facilities like hospitals nearby and police stations for protection and emergency services though. When you have a finite resource, need to apply it towards what is likely to provide the most benefit.

Edit: I'd also rather see some of those plants come back online so they can contribute to the nations GDP. Their economy is gonna be in the crapper after this. Ibaraki prefect isn't going to be able to export crap for a long time--Spinach wtih upwards of 20x the acceptible limit. Would you want to eat it?

Boldheart
03-22-2011, 01:56 AM
We will see 2morrow whats going on w/ the servers.

NightDagger
03-22-2011, 01:59 AM
Don't you mean 4-10pm jst? lol.

lol no I meant est. (my time zone) but yeah we all know it would be Jst. >< man 14 hours difference

NightDagger
03-22-2011, 02:02 AM
Actually it does make a difference where to power is used. Other wise there would be no diverting. Diverting from where if its all in one grid?

Well as for SE all their surrounding grid is from the same power source so it makes no difference really.

The diverting is coming from other power sources that are running no problem & providing full power to completely different areas.

They are getting an extra 150MW from an external power source. That is 4 times as much power as they are running on currently. With that much extra power there should be no reason for any blackouts or companies that are able to operate to do so.