Pet Enmity Generation

[Guitarman]

Currently, Beastmaster pets, both charmed and jug pets, Summoner avatars, and Dragoon's wyvern are unable to hold enmity any more. As a beastmaster, I can send in a pet and do nothing but let it attack for a good solid 4+ minutes, but as soon as I swing my axe once, the monster will turn to attack me. I am hearing the same issues from Summoners, who are being attacked by using their blood pact commands.

Just wanted to bring that up!

[Demon6324236]

Yep, the only way to have your pet hold any hate currently is to WS and use Snarl right after it, but even with that, it does not last very long at all.

[Thundarian]

I can confirm that it is absurdly easy to pull aggro off avatar's currently, to the point of using hastega on Garuda after she's hit something 4-5 times can pull aggro sometimes. Don't bother trying to cast a heal if the pet is tanking. Ok for group play, painful for solo'ing.

[Qeepel]

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[Thundarian]

Thread Title:
Summons (pets) enmity generation is low

Platform:
PC
ISP:
cox

Type of Internet Connection:
cable

Internet Connection Speed:
10-15mbs

Date & Time:
Around midnight, pacific timezone

Frequency:
State how frequently the issue occurs. Please select from the following.
Sometimes

Character Name:
Thundarian

Race:
Taru forever
World:
Siren

Main Job:
99 summoner

Support Job:
scholar

Area and Coordinates:
Labyrinth of Onzozo
Party or Solo:
Solo

NPC Name:
n/a
Monster Name:
Labrynth Manticore

Steps:
Battling Manticores, sending in Garuda to agro and get a melee hit and then running up to melee myself, I can pull agro on the Manticore with one auto attack and a blood pact, despite Garuda getting in one to two hits.
Typical battle: Send in pet, pet hits for 160-200, I engage and melee with staff, 20-30 damage, I use blood pact: rage, pull agro. This also happens sometimes when I allow the pet to hit a second time before activating rage.
This is just an example of pet enmity not working well on the low end of the scale. As monsters get higher level and harder, my pet hits for less damage, generating less agro, and making it so that despite me letting her (or other summons) a large number of hits in, I can pull off my pets activating blood pacts or taking other actions (casting a cure spell), frequently resulting in me getting 2-3 shot (I’m a taru :P) **Please note I am using no gear which lowers the enmity my pet generates.

Hope this helps, I didn't want to go back to Adoulin and get killed a few more times for the sake of science so I worked with something less dangerous but should give you an idea how the scaling is off. This can be an issue on many of the higher level monsters.

[Mirril]

I have also experienced problems with enmity on a pet job. I don't believe it is an issue of the pet generating no/low enmity, as I was in a duo. Copy and paste of "form" provided above follows:


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Enmity Issues, on pet jobs and perhaps in general.

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PC
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Date & Time:
~April 30, 2013 various points through the day.

Frequency:

2. Sometimes ~Issues with enmity and summon pets

4. Unknown ~Issues with enmity in general.

Character Name:
Mirril,

Race:
Mithra (likely irrelevant)

World:
Cerberus
Main Job:
Summoner (Other player involved was on various jobs, Blue Mage, Red Mage)

Support Job:
White mage

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Party: 2 members.

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Ceizak Battlegrounds enemies. Various.

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~Battle.
Casting spells like paralyna and silena resulted in me (summoner) "pulling hate" (getting the attention of) the mob (enemy), away from my pet (Garuda, Carbuncle) and the other party member (Main jobs Red Mage, Blue Mage, varying)

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Pet (garuda, carbuncle) was unable to hold hate against enemies. At times, I had enmity when I had taken no action that would have normally generated it (ie paralyna/silena). I highly doubt it was a "hate reset" unless every new enemy in Adoulin zones have "hate reset" moves.
Other player in party was also unable to hold hate at times.
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[Guitarman]

Before I begin, I am extremely grateful for your response Qeepel. I know it may seem like nothing to you, but the fact that you're willing to hear us out is extremely gratifying. It's a rare treat nowadays. Thank you!

Thread Title:
Currently Beastmaster pets, Summoner avatars, and dragoon wyverns are unable to generate enmity properly. A pet can fight alone for several minutes, but as soon as the master uses an ability or swings their weapon, threat is on the master.

Platform:
Windows

ISP:
Comcast

Type of Internet Connection:
Cable

Internet Connection Speed:
5Mbp/s

Date & Time:
5pm PST 3/31/2013
Frequency:
State how frequently the issue occurs. Please select from the following.
1. Always


Character Name:
Guitarman

Race:
Race of your character when the issue occurred.
Hume M

World:
Shiva

Main Job:
99 Beastmaster

Support Job:
49 Dancer

Area and Coordinates:
All areas

Party or Solo:
Solo

NPC Name:
None

Monster Name:
All monsters

Steps:

Summoned the jug pet FaithfulFalcor on 99 Beastmaster/49Dancer job. Use the "Fight" command to have Falcor attack an Umbril monster in Adoulin. Let Falcor and Umbril fight each other for several minutes. After minutes pass, engage Umbril. First swing of axe caused the Umbril to change target to me. This was the first occurance, however it is not limited to Umbril. All monsters and pets, both charmed and jug pets are causing this issue. The Beastmaster's pet is unable to generate enough enmity alone to keep the monster from attacking the player. Player abilities such as "Spectral Jig" and "Ready" are causing instant target changes from the enemy, causing the enemy to attack the player.

[Thundarian]

Was killing Faunus Wyvern in Abyssea Grauberg tonight, atma of minikins monstrosity and razed ruins equipped, pets couldn't hold aggro with auto attacks, the Wyverns would actively attack me despite me standing around doing literally nothing after assaulting them.

Using a blood pact instantly pulled off the pet, and even hitting with 4k predator claws, the wyverns would sometimes return to attack me again before the 45 second blood pact cooldown was up. This is a bit absurd.

[Arciel]

I concur.

Thread Title:
Currently Beastmaster pets, Summoner avatars, and dragoon wyverns are unable to generate enmity properly. A pet can fight alone for several minutes, but as soon as the master uses an ability or swings their weapon, threat is on the master.

Platform:
Windows

ISP:
various

Type of Internet Connection:
Cable

Internet Connection Speed:
5Mbp/s

Date & Time:
3 April 2013. 12-5pm
Frequency:
State how frequently the issue occurs. Please select from the following.
1. Always

Character Name:
Arciele

Race:
Race of your character when the issue occurred.
Hume M

World:
Bahamut

Main Job:
99 Summoner

Support Job:
49 White Mage

Area and Coordinates:
All areas

Party or Solo:
Solo

NPC Name:
None

Monster Name:
All monsters

Steps:

Soloing against monsters in various locations, one of which was a colonization reive. When fighting with an enemy, I would use a Lv75 Merit Blood Pact to deal damage, which ranged between 2-4k in damage. Prior to the version update and enmity changes, this would be sufficient to ensure that the monster would be focused in attacking my avatar only (no matter what I would do). Post update, any and all spells / pet commands / job abilities I use after the Merit Blood Pact was used would immediately cause the enemy to turn its attention to me.

[Qeepel]

Hello!

I'll go ahead and submit your information for further testing. Any changes, news or updates regarding this matter will either be made directly to this post, or on www.PlayOnline.com and official FFXI forums. Thank you again!

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