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krazykaz
02-21-2013, 04:32 AM
personally i think there should be more deliverable items such as crafting stalls, blackbelt parts (the other belt parts are deliverable)... any plans to change that list?

Alhanelem
02-21-2013, 08:29 AM
The black belt parts, make sense... not so sure about crafting stalls, because that would allow another character to utilize their enhancement much, much earlier than would normally be possible. I certainly wouldn't be against it, though I'm not sure they would do something like that.

Kjara
02-22-2013, 03:10 AM
Please NQ empy and relic armor deliverable... Don't come and tell me it wouldn't be fair to send relic armor to chase who don't have dynamis requirements, because relic accessories are deliverable all right, and those require even more requirements than normal armor (AKA CoP progress). Same goes for empy armor. Why can't I send to another character the boots I happened to found on a char that can't use them? The empyrean accessories, again like relic, are deliverable just fine, same as seals and +2 items, so I don't see the point.

Also, why not make scenario reward items deliverable? I'm not even talking about mini-add ons pieces, since those have augments. I'm talking about CoP and ToAU rings. To level a second character from 0 to get it through a WHOLE mission storyline to net a 2nd ring seems a reasonable effort that should be rewarded with the possibility to send said ring to your original character. But this is my opinion.

And last but not least, please give a thought on making event items deliverable. Looking at you, Tidal Talisman. And you, recruitment program items (mini-airship, sol cap, timepiece etc.). What's wrong with those being sent to another character on the same account? I don't see it so game-breaking. >.<

Sapphire
02-22-2013, 04:27 AM
Scenario items won't be deliverable because it would allow you to then get a second different reward. Same reason they aren't storable. You can't get Rajas AND another ring.

Kjara
02-22-2013, 09:33 PM
Scenario items won't be deliverable because it would allow you to then get a second different reward. Same reason they aren't storable. You can't get Rajas AND another ring.

But, like I said, I think to level a brand new character and get it through CoP or AU missions all over again is a worthy effort to gain access to a 2nd ring?

Alhanelem
02-23-2013, 02:40 PM
But, like I said, I think to level a brand new character and get it through CoP or AU missions all over again is a worthy effort to gain access to a 2nd ring?
I think this crosses the line into unfair advantage of having multiple characters. As far as I understand, the main purpose of letting us deliver certain rare-ex items in the same account was to let us free up inventory space, and less about creating perks to playing a second character up. That's just my subjective opinion though, not a fact.

Frankbrodie
02-23-2013, 04:11 PM
Destrier Beret is the only one that has ever bothered me. And not that much to be fair.

Pelican Rings is an interesting one that IS sendable in my opinion. And the MMM fishing rings for that matter.

And I never understood coffer keys being sendable personally. That gives a same account character real advantages with certain quests and/or missions that is absolutely for certain. Aht Urhgan access anyone?

Kjara
02-23-2013, 11:29 PM
I think this crosses the line into unfair advantage of having multiple characters. As far as I understand, the main purpose of letting us deliver certain rare-ex items in the same account was to let us free up inventory space, and less about creating perks to playing a second character up. That's just my subjective opinion though, not a fact.

Agreed, I guess I just figured by now, with all the new armor and stuff, having access to all of those rings rather just one wouldn't be as game breaking as it would've been back at 75 cap. I believe there is plenty of rings out there that are even better than most of the scenario ones (Epona and Abuscade come to my mind for the melee type).

Demon6324236
02-24-2013, 04:09 AM
Rajas is god, very few situations if any where it is not going to be the best ring a DD can use. The others would not be unbalanced to get simply because they have not aged well. Rajas kept 3 vital stats of which you need at the same time in many cases where as the others have 2 stats at best and are easily surpassed. Also, its the only ring with 5STP, the others have no stats at all they are still best at. Due to that reason, there is no point to really restrict them anymore. Any items like that are the same as well, the options are not good enough, only 1 normally stands out and its almost always chosen.

Eri
02-24-2013, 05:39 AM
Is there an actual list of all items that we cannot send on the same account?
Like made by SE? it would be helpfull.

Kjara
02-24-2013, 09:37 AM
Is there an actual list of all items that we cannot send on the same account?
Like made by SE? it would be helpfull.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/14591

Use Ctrl+F and search for the item you wonder about. If Search doesn't find it, it's deliverable (It's a really long list, so use that method).

Eri
02-24-2013, 08:44 PM
This is interesting, thank you!

However, this list seems to be incomplete?

I tryed to send a Bonbori via Pol-Accout lately guess what...
Its not on the list and not sendable either.
Tradeable though...

Also with the Bonanza upcomeing....

Cat's Eye not sendable? i think thats pretty pointsless, considdering its only used in only Quest.
Same goes for the Ebisu Items.

Kjara
02-25-2013, 06:39 AM
This is interesting, thank you!

However, this list seems to be incomplete?

I tryed to send a Bonbori via Pol-Accout lately guess what...
Its not on the list and not sendable either.
Tradeable though...



The list is complete and always kept up to date by SE. You must consider though that it is just Rare/Ex items. Items that aren't R/X but still not sendable (Ark statues, Dynamis currency, Kirin's Osode, Bonbori, Festival Dolls etc.) won't be listed. To send those to another char of your same account you'll have to use either a second account or, as I do, a trustworthy friend to trade with. It sucks, but it's how it is.

krazykaz
02-28-2013, 10:49 AM
yeah it does kinda suck actually.... to send dyna currency to a mule i gotta use the wifes account and have her tele/warp around between my main and my mule.

Jaall
02-28-2013, 04:20 PM
You have to realise that this is "same account", meaning that you have to play each character separately and not dual box. For that reason I feel if you have put the effort in to do something on 1 character, it should be accessible by either. I only say this because I have my first original character that I created a Kannagi and calad on, and then decided to create a Mithra because I wanted a change after 8 years of playing. My Mithra character has much much better gear now than my original character so I never play my original but I feel like that time I used to make the 2 empy's has gone to waste. It is my fault and I do realise that I chose to make the second character, but I still put the effort in and strayed away from the whole dual-box thing so it's not in any way an advantage. Like, if I had stayed on the original it would have all the items I have now on my Mithra, plus what it had before. I don't see why SE can't add a "1-time" relic/mythic/empy transfer service where you can send it but you only get 1 chance. That way you have to be sure you want to send it over but the options still there.

Kjara
02-28-2013, 07:28 PM
Yes, a one-time only transfer service would be cool, hell even a payable transfer service much like server transfer. I too have changed my main character recently, and wish I could at least send my previous main (elvaan female)'s Tidal Talisman to my current main (Hume Male). I can see it being tricky due to the item being a code reward, but is it really -that- impossible?

Mayoyama
02-28-2013, 08:59 PM
Items like BB items, dyna currency, cat's eye, kirins osode etc should definately be made transferable... however rewards like cop/toau rings, r/m/e weps etc should remain un-sendable.

Slightly unrelated: Why would anyone want to have a 2nd cop ring on their account anyway? Not like the other 2 are any good... And SE never came back to us about updating the COP/TOAU rings to 99 version after 2+ years of waiting (even though at the time they said they were very interested in doing this)

Kjara
03-02-2013, 01:28 AM
Slightly unrelated: Why would anyone want to have a 2nd cop ring on their account anyway? Not like the other 2 are any good...

Collection. Not everyone plays to have 'just the best'.