Double EXP Campaign

[Camate]

Greetings everyone!

I just wanted to take a moment and give a couple more details regarding the Double EXP Campaign that we will be holding this upcoming weekend.

While the double EXP will not affect any experience points gained in Abyssea, you will be able to double your gains in Dynamis, Promyvion areas, and everywhere else.

Also, in case you were wondering, the double EXP will only apply towards your character and not adventuring fellows. However, based off what we see from this campaign, we would like to look into other elements, including having the EXP applied to fellows. Another type of campaign is in the works as well! ;)

[nyheen]

that will be epic! it not needed in abyssea.

[Rubicant82]

Would the dev team be willing to toss in a modifier on the Conquest Points and Imperial Standing gained as well? I mean obviously we will be getting more due to double exp, but what if instead of 10% they upped it to 20% of the exp gained becomes points. :D That would make this something that everyone could take advantage of (even if they have all jobs 99, and all merits capped).

[Tamarsamar]

However, based off what we see from this campaign, we would like to look into other elements, including having the EXP applied to fellows.

Please do! I intend to level alongside my Fellow for the campaign, and she already falls far behind from missing out on GoV bonus experience (even when not in a dedicated book-burn) and Dedication effects alone.

[Limecat]

Would the dev team be willing to toss in a modifier on the Conquest Points and Imperial Standing gained as well? I mean obviously we will be getting more due to double exp, but what if instead of 10% they upped it to 20% of the exp gained becomes points. :D That would make this something that everyone could take advantage of (even if they have all jobs 99, and all merits capped).

Actually, we've got the double-CC kupower active on Carby right now, and it will last a couple days at least into the exp boost.

[Alhanelem]

Would the dev team be willing to toss in a modifier on the Conquest Points and Imperial Standing gained as well? I mean obviously we will be getting more due to double exp, but what if instead of 10% they upped it to 20% of the exp gained becomes points. :D That would make this something that everyone could take advantage of (even if they have all jobs 99, and all merits capped).
It won't be necessary. Doubling the Exp gain will automatically double the IS/CP you gain. Then use an exp ring (esp. the anni ring if you still have it) and get even more.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

everywhere else

Besieged? Campaign battle?

[Cowardlybabooon]

I have a business conference this weekend and this makes me unhappy.

[Krashport]

Sure this is pretty cool for those that can bas in the enjoy over the weekend. The real question is why double.. why not triple XP. I mean Abyssea is still on God mode XP not only for a weekend, all the time. Which leads us to why not just make those areas experience double/triple all the time. Could also up the Conquest Points, Allied Notes and Imperial Standings. Lets face it the game is no longer Lv.75 cap things need to change.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29926-An-idea-on-Standings-Points-and-Notes.

[Alhanelem]

Sure this is pretty cool for those that can bas in the enjoy over the weekend. The real question is why double.. why not triple XP. I mean Abyssea is still on God mode XP not only for a weekend, all the time. Which leads us to why not just make those areas experience double/triple all the time. Could also up the Conquest Points, Allied Notes and Imperial Standings. Lets face it the game is no longer Lv.75 cap things need to change.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29926-An-idea-on-Standings-Points-and-Notes.Considering all mob EXP outside of abyssea was doubled after abyssea came out, technically this is quadruple what it was originally, and then exp rings stack with it. It's fast enough for you old man *han solo voice*.

That being said this campaign is llargely aimed at people who DON'T leech their way from 30 to 99 and only go to abyssea at a reasonable level.

[Krashport]

Considering all mob EXP outside of abyssea was doubled after abyssea came out, technically this is quadruple what it was originally, and then exp rings stack with it. It's fast enough for you old man *han solo voice*.

Correct, but have to also realize that the level was raised around when Abyssea came out so therefore doubled helped the higher levels more then anything and Abyssea made leveling a thing of the past. If you go way back to when leveling to 50 it use to be like 54k TNL... adding that would make it more then quadruple today. :p *Yoda voice*


That being said this campaign is llargely aimed at people who DON'T leech their way from 30 to 99 and only go to abyssea at a reasonable level.

Wrong, its largely aimed at those members that can get online this weekend, everyone else that would like to participate that can't are sol. Also if you think about it those that DON'T leech their way up, getting double XP and using bands is another way of leeching it up those book-burns are going to be hot and packed over the weekend.

[Yrusama]

Correct, but have to also realize that the level was raised around when Abyssea came out so therefore doubled helped the higher levels more then anything and Abyssea made leveling a thing of the past. If you go way back to when leveling to 50 it use to be like 54k TNL... adding that would make it more then quadruple today. :p *Yoda voice*



Wrong, its largely aimed at those members that can get online this weekend, everyone else that would like to participate that can't are sol. Also if you think about it those that DON'T leech their way up, getting double XP and using bands is another way of leeching it up those book-burns are going to be hot and packed over the weekend.

Leeching implies no active participation in the battle. This double-EXP campaign rewards people who don't just sit in Abyssea or the Oubliette soaking up EXP - people who challenge themselves to fight mobs that give EXP upon death without page bonuses or whatever. Sure, most of us aren't stubbornly anti-abyssea/GoV, but that doesn't mean the people loyal to the old ways should be abandoned.

[nyheen]

Wrong, its largely aimed at those members that can get online this weekend, everyone else that would like to participate that can't are sol. Also if you think about it those that DON'T leech their way up, getting double XP and using bands is another way of leeching it up those book-burns are going to be hot and packed over the weekend.

it a reason why it not for abyssea and books. so it kinda aimed at people that dont wanna lolleech 30-99 and would like a good low man or 6 man pt 300-600 a kill T,VT or IT (weekend exp would be like 600-900) + page bonus so. it wont be all that great if everyone 18/18 pt spamming just easy and you guys only getting like 3-9 exp a kill atm?lol with 2k page or so

[Krashport]

Leeching implies no active participation in the battle.k?.. that doesn't mean Members only leech in Abyssea. I've seen many do it and its mostly the leaders that are leeching in Book burns.


This double-EXP campaign rewards people who don't just sit in Abyssea or the Oubliette soaking up EXP - people who challenge themselves to fight mobs that give EXP upon death without page bonuses or whatever. Sure, most of us aren't stubbornly anti-abyssea/GoV, but that doesn't mean the people loyal to the old ways should be abandoned.So would rather have SE give an XP bonus for just a weekend, then just get a bonus from FoV/GoV right... People loyal to the old ways... if "you're" not keeping yourself @ Lv.75 cap you are not loyal to the old ways. lol

[Krashport]

it a reason why it not for abyssea and books. so it kinda aimed at people that dont wanna lolleech 30-99 and would like a good low man or 6 man pt 300-600 a kill T,VT or IT (weekend exp would be like 600-900) + page bonus so. it wont be all that great if everyone 18/18 pt spamming just easy and you guys only getting like 3-9 exp a kill atm?lol with 2k page or so

I couldn't agree more. By the way, I never asked to add it to Abyssea or Books. I was just wondering why just a weekend, I mean would it really hurt if it lasted for a full week... then those Member that can't participate might be able to. Personally I like old school and new school. I like Final Fantasy XI for what it is, I don't pick pieces. (Somethings suck, Somethings don't suck, Somethings don't suck as much.) Another thing it's not just for low man parties, women play this game to!

[Zhronne]

Oh a fellow campaign would be awesome. My Fellow is still like level 75 or something, which means faaaaar behind.

[Alhanelem]

Wrong, its largely aimed at those members that can get online this weekend, everyone else that would like to participate that can't are sol.So what? the same is true of free weekends in steam, ingame holiday events, and anything else you can imagine that's time limited. If you miss it, sucks to be you. Or maybe not, since some people are complaining that it doesn't help anything.

It's called a promotion. Promotions don't last forever.

[Krashport]

So what? the same is true of free weekends in steam, ingame holiday events, and anything else you can imagine that's time limited. If you miss it, sucks to be you. Or maybe not, since some people are complaining that it doesn't help anything.

It's called a promotion. Promotions don't last forever.

WE DO NOT PAY a monthly subscription to STEAM and these are two different Companies! Holiday events last LONGER then a weekend.

[Merton9999]

Leeching implies no active participation in the battle. This double-EXP campaign rewards people who don't just sit in Abyssea or the Oubliette soaking up EXP - people who challenge themselves to fight mobs that give EXP upon death without page bonuses or whatever. Sure, most of us aren't stubbornly anti-abyssea/GoV, but that doesn't mean the people loyal to the old ways should be abandoned.

I guarantee that what I'm doing on the other side of my computer while my character is leeching in Abyssea is approximately one thousand times more challenging than actively participating in a GoV book burn.

That said,even if this were applicable to Abyssea I'd never waste the opportunity there. Too much relic gear to upgrade. I do like the idea of extending it to a week though.

[Cowardlybabooon]

I wish I could be online this weekend, but I cant and really I think I will be okay. Double experience is going to create the same problem Abyssea does regarding skillup anyways, so I might as well key whore myself to 75 and whiff my way to 99 anyways. The only anti-abyssea argument people could possibly have is fun, skillup, or ability to play your job, and other than fun, this campaign does what abyssea does. Granted I am nostalgic of the old days at times and would love an old merit style party once in a while.

[Merton9999]

I wish I could be online this weekend, but I cant and really I think I will be okay. Double experience is going to create the same problem Abyssea does regarding skillup anyways, so I might as well key whore myself to 75 and whiff my way to 99 anyways. The only anti-abyssea argument people could possibly have is fun, skillup, or ability to play your job, and other than fun, this campaign does what abyssea does. Granted I am nostalgic of the old days at times and would love an old merit style party once in a while.

I would see what you mean if it weren't for the XP bonus applying to Dynamis. I'm not losing out an any skill ups nor job knowledge by upgrading my relic+2 gear faster.

[nyheen]

I wish I could be online this weekend, but I cant and really I think I will be okay. Double experience is going to create the same problem Abyssea does regarding skillup anyways, so I might as well key whore myself to 75 and whiff my way to 99 anyways. The only anti-abyssea argument people could possibly have is fun, skillup, or ability to play your job, and other than fun, this campaign does what abyssea does. Granted I am nostalgic of the old days at times and would love an old merit style party once in a while.
i would pay just to join a old merit style pt. i really do miss them times

[Alhanelem]

WE DO NOT PAY a monthly subscription to STEAM and these are two different Companies! Holiday events last LONGER then a weekend.
This event doesn't have anything to do with steam, and it's not a holiday event.

Seriously- sucks to be you if you can't take advantage of it- that's just the way life is. Be happy it's a whole weekend- in MapleStory, 2x EXP events last 2-4 hours, not all day for 2 days straight.

Also, SE said "Our first double EXP event"- implying it won't be the last.

[Mnejing]

i would pay just to join a old merit style pt. i really do miss them times

You're really becoming an old broken record. Do you really have to keep advocating that you dislike leeching and etc?

[nyheen]

You're really becoming an old broken record. Do you really have to keep advocating that you dislike leeching and etc?

comment about the merit pt the guy was talking about and that a problem?.lol

[Mnejing]

comment about the merit pt the guy was talking about and that a problem?.lol
You know what I'm referring to as I've personally seen plenty of your posts here, ffxiah, and on alla. Your rants about leeching and how would you like to return to old style exp is getting old.

[nyheen]

You know what I'm referring to as I've personally seen plenty of your posts here, ffxiah, and on alla. Your rants about leeching and how would you like to return to old style exp is getting old.

different forum/post? is that a problem?.lol. i dont have to stay put on just 1 forum place just like no one stopping you from watching me. if 10 different dudes on youtube make a video about the same subject and i comment on each 1 why is that a big deal to you?

[Mnejing]

different forum/post? is that a problem?.lol. i dont have to stay put on just 1 forum place just like no one stopping you from watching me. if 10 different dudes on youtube make a video about the same subject and i comment on each 1 why is that a big deal to you?
No where in my post did I say that you should stick to one forum, yet you just proved my point. In the case of your youtube analogy posting the same exact thing in 10 videos can be considered as spam which you just do here at any straws of someone posting about exp and the fact no one really cares about a youtube video unless its humorous or cool. Why do you care so much about how others level? Its their playstyle and they can do as they please. That is why those abyssea needs to be 70+ guys have gave up because idea wasn't new. I'm sure you have people in your ls and people you consider friend that have leeched, are you going to get on them about leeching everytime they login? Now, enjoy your Double exp weekend and I will too.

[Vivivivi]

Hello!

I just wanted to offer some feedback from this event. FANTASTIC IDEA! Please do this again! I had a level 16 Dragoon I had been wanting to level for a while, but didn't want to head to Gusgen mines for hours on end to do it. There were several shouts for old school six person xp parties in places like the dunes and Qufim island, and so I joined a group in Qufim after I was around level 20.

It was SO MUCH FUN. We formed a somewhat balanced group of DDs, healers and support jobs, and the rate at which we were gaining experience points made us feel as though we weren't missing out by taking advantage of grounds of valor. The group not only stuck together for quite some time, but we adventured into Lower Delkfutt's Tower, and were getting ready to go to Kazahm when I had to leave.

Please consider making this a more regular event, or even a super kupower as it was the most fun I have had in an XP party in years!

[Bahamut]

NEVER AGAIN!!!!! I could not even xp last night in Bostauniex Oubliette or La thiene it was so crowded that two alliances were camping on top of each other in Bost. Oub. and La thiene was filled with 500k paying customers who wanted to afk thier characters to max lvl. Horrible idea, so I just decided to craft last night till this maddness is over.

I suggest if you do any double anything, it should be double skill up weekends, thats whats needed right now.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

My only complaint is that you level up too fast to stay in one place for very long. I ended up shuffling through two jobs last night to use as a level sync target, just to keep from having to figure out where to go next and how to get there.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

NEVER AGAIN!!!!! I could not even xp last night in Bostauniex Oubliette or La thiene it was so crowded that two alliances were camping on top of each other in Bost. Oub. and La thiene was filled with 500k paying customers who wanted to afk thier characters to max lvl. Horrible idea, so I just decided to craft last night till this maddness is over.

In the time it took you to write this, you could have gone literally anywhere else.

Basically, it sounds like your complaint is that too many other people had the same plans to go AFK as you did. That's a silly plan to begin with, since the EXP per kill on book burns approaches zero, and twice zero is still zero.

Meanwhile, four players in the mid-20's and LOLgear were getting over 1000 raw EXP from quadav in Rolanberry Fields.

[Alhanelem]

Since my post is to get rid of double weekend and make it double skill up weekend if anything, how do you make a jump to a conclusion I would want to afk xp?

There's no reason not to let people have double EXP if they want it. Just because *you* don't want it isn't a reason not to have it. I agree it should have also included skill ups but not instead of the EXP.

[Demon6324236]

NEVER AGAIN!!!!! I could not even xp last night in Bostauniex Oubliette or La thiene it was so crowded that two alliances were camping on top of each other in Bost. Oub. and La thiene was filled with 500k paying customers who wanted to afk thier characters to max lvl. Horrible idea, so I just decided to craft last night till this maddness is over.

I suggest if you do any double anything, it should be double skill up weekends, thats whats needed right now.Wait wait wait... Your complaints are about a GoV party, which is basically not even effected by Double XP at all, and an Abyssea party, which is again, not effected by Double XP, at all. Now, if you were trying to solo or even do a small party in Bost and there were many others camping over you, that would be a different story as you would be getting the effect but were over ran with other people. Using Abyssea as an excuse is terrible though as it does not even effect Abyssea, unless you mean people were paying 500k to leech their jobs in a xp party out killing sheep and bunnies, then Imma just say your full of it.

Plain and simple, your complaint about this event actually has no basis at all, because neither of the things you brought up are even relevant to the Double XP event in any real way, if they were crowded, maybe its because the Double XP did not do a good enough job of getting them away from FCs, Abyssea, and GoV.

[Alhanelem]

^
This.

Also, there are tons of areas where you could kill mobs for enough EXP for the event to be worthwhile. Why would you choose an already popular and crowded place to EXP when you know there's an event attempting to create an incentive to EXP? Obviously its going to be more crowded than usual

[Demon6324236]

2. I stated it should be a skill up weekend. which is clear something a person leveling up all 99s would say since the fact is, you are going for all weapon skills on all weapons, not just one weapon like an afk person would want to do.Actually, thats the exact opposite. I honestly don't care why you made your poorly made excuses for why DXP is bad, but if I leeched up all my jobs to 99, the last thing I would want is Double XP, I would absolutely LOVE Double Skill Ups though, think about it, all my gimp skills like Katana, Ninjutsu, Summoning Magic, things I could never level up on my other jobs would be boosted to skill much faster, so my leeching is made all the better with my swift skill ups catching me up to par.

Since when did people leech MNK up for JUST H2H? People do it for blue procs. Since when did people leech WAR up for JUST Great Axe, people do it for red procs. Since when did people leech NIN up for JUST Katana, people do it for red procs and yellow procs. This list goes on, and on, people do not skill a single thing, they skill many things on many jobs, some are only one, sure, some only need one though, some are none, if you have a capped out THF, you will basically have a capped out DNC if you leech it up, no skills needed. But never the less a level capped out person, leecher or not, would profit infinitely more from Skill Ups than from XP.

[Bahamut]

There's no reason not to let people have double EXP if they want it. Just because *you* don't want it isn't a reason not to have it. I agree it should have also included skill ups but not instead of the EXP.

I can agree that we shouldnt get rid of double xp weekend all together, just that some things need to be addressed to fix it on the top end to make it more satisfactory. One way would be to maybe start by not allowing low lvl players into abyssea who pay 500k for pl. They took away selling abyssea gear selling to merchants because of the amount of easy gil you make, but why not put an end to easy gil people make off power leveling while were at it. We had around 8 people who wanted to xp at worms while about that many were afk in the worm party getting a power lvl. That does tend to be a load of crap if you ask me when honest players want to enjoy an event weekend at worms only to have gil sellers and exploiters take over one of thier main area of enjoyment.

As far as Bost. Obu., I dont know if there was anything you can really do about someone who starts a second alliance on top of another one, but shows there was double demand for xp in that area. I guess this would have to be solved by someone actually finding another camp like Bost. Obu. and be able to actually get people to go to it instead, which would be one great feat in of itself. So nothing you can do there but be unsatisfied with two alliances fighting over mobs for crappy xp, defeating the purpose of the event.


Most of what I state is just at the top end xp, and explains the problems I'm seeing there, that affect me personaly and my satifaction of xping on double xp weekend. Does that mean take a hatchet to the weekend and ruin it for all lower lvl players, no... just that it needs some thinking. Since all my jobs are 75+ these problems affect me since its not just xp im after, its also skills while xping which makes these camps so sought after. As far as lower lvl parties go and lvl syncs, they deserve to have some double xp in my eyes and understand where they come from.

[Bahamut]

You make a good Point Demon, if these areas were not affected by double xp weekend, then why was so many people trying to overpack them, I havent see that much turnout in months.

Strange...

[Bahamut]

Actually, thats the exact opposite. I honestly don't care why you made your poorly made excuses for why DXP is bad, but if I leeched up all my jobs to 99, the last thing I would want is Double XP, I would absolutely LOVE Double Skill Ups though, think about it, all my gimp skills like Katana, Ninjutsu, Summoning Magic, things I could never level up on my other jobs would be boosted to skill much faster, so my leeching is made all the better with my swift skill ups catching me up to par.

Since when did people leech MNK up for JUST H2H? People do it for blue procs. Since when did people leech WAR up for JUST Great Axe, people do it for red procs. Since when did people leech NIN up for JUST Katana, people do it for red procs and yellow procs. This list goes on, and on, people do not skill a single thing, they skill many things on many jobs, some are only one, sure, some only need one though, some are none, if you have a capped out THF, you will basically have a capped out DNC if you leech it up, no skills needed. But never the less a level capped out person, leecher or not, would profit infinitely more from Skill Ups than from XP.

I guess you are kinda right, but as lvling up all 99s the normal way, I did notice that when you lvl all your jobs to 55 at crawlers nest, you stop getting skills at around level 55, which you then go to Bost. Obu. and can skill up pretty solid up to 200-240 pretty easy, the thing is, two handers after lvling all jobs up to 75, were sitting at around 200, so the skill ups to 240 on scythe as my last weapon is what im working on now to be able to get trials for it have landed me four 99s already from La theine, where I love to xp and get skill ups while doing trials up to 99 on jobs. So thats where the want for double skill ups comes in, anyone lvling up all 99s normally would still want double skill ups. Someone who gets pl up to 99 on all 20 jobs would surley go broke and if they are that lazy to get a pl for 500k a job, odds are, they are only lvling up one job or two which makes skills a non issue. Where as someone who lvls up all 99s normally would need alot of two hander skill ups yet.

Guess thats the thought process I was going on.

And as far as double xp weekend, they must not have told people it correctly because it was packed so bad couldnt find a spot in either spots.

[Demon6324236]

You make a good Point Demon, if these areas were not affected by double xp weekend, then why was so many people trying to overpack them, I havent see that much turnout in months.

Strange...Probably more people who did not read into the info enough to know Abyssea and GoV were not effected, rushing for a quick level up for the weekend not knowing what they were after did not actually exist or work the way they had thought.

[nyheen]

it is so many great duo trio even 6 man camps that work very well. going to CN, gusgen and bostaunieux with 18 people is not the only camps around.lol.

GC lvl 40 duo+ page 2 on T mobs. 300-400 without the double. didn try it yet. but it would be 700+ or more
bhaflau T birds duo lvl 70 double xp 800+ or so with chains
boyahda tree page 5 i think. steel crabs and flys T mobs 800+ chains

lot of others places around that very good.:)

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Since my post is to get rid of double weekend and make it double skill up weekend if anything, how do you make a jump to a conclusion I would want to afk xp?

Emphasis mine:


NEVER AGAIN!!!!! I could not even xp last night in Bostauniex Oubliette or La thiene


1. I state that I am disatisfied (sic) with double xp, something an afk'r would not say because thier (sic) purpose is to get as much xp as possible while being afk as they are paying 500k on a time limit.

You stated you couldn't take advantage of double EXP because the two(!) areas you checked were "full."

Hell, did you even consider so much as changing floors in the Oubliette? Not all monsters are covered by the book, you know...


2. I stated it should be a skill up weekend. which is clear something a person leveling up all 99s would say since the fact is, you are going for all weapon skills on all weapons, not just one weapon like an afk person would want to do.

You may be going for "all weapon skills on all weapons," but I finished that months ago (at least as far as my WAR is concerned, absent /RNG). More significantly, I did most of that not in Bostaunieux Oubliette or La Theine Plateau (or even Abyssea - La Theine), but in Bibiki Bay, taking advantage of Kupowers and skill-up foods.

Once again, this is something you could have done in the time it took you to write your little rant. And you wouldn't be stuck in the position of trying to retroactively deny something.


So there you have it a simplified version of where your possibly undevloped (sic) brain as a child might have taken my post the wrong way.

Aside from saying what you mean and meaning what you say, you might also want to make sure that what you say is spelled correctly, especially when accusing someone of being intellectually feeble.

It's 2013: how could you not be using a web browser with a built-in spell-checker?


The post is about overcrowding during events such as double xp, instead of something thats (sic) far more useful in my opinion such as skill ups. Do you kinda understand that better now?

Your post was about overcrowding in 2 areas out of nearly 100 available, filled by people doing an activity that isn't even meaningfully enhanced by the doubling of EXP. The only way your rant would make sense if you were angry because you were trying to do the same thing they were (which is effectively exactly what you said).

[Meyi]

While the double EXP will not affect any experience points gained in Abyssea, you will be able to double your gains in Dynamis, Promyvion areas, and everywhere else.

I like how Dynamis was the first one mentioned. It's almost like you know what the players want.


(...)we would like to look into other elements, including having the EXP applied to fellows.

I'd rather have bond points doubled or tripled; adventuring fellows level incredibly fast and in fact we cannot keep up with their speed! They'll hit level 50, but it's another week of grinding out with them before we can actually break their genkai and level them up to 55. :/ I'd prefer to see this fixed!

[Bahamut]

Emphasis mine:





You stated you couldn't take advantage of double EXP because the two(!) areas you checked were "full."

Hell, did you even consider so much as changing floors in the Oubliette? Not all monsters are covered by the book, you know...



You may be going for "all weapon skills on all weapons," but I finished that months ago (at least as far as my WAR is concerned, absent /RNG). More significantly, I did most of that not in Bostaunieux Oubliette or La Theine Plateau (or even Abyssea - La Theine), but in Bibiki Bay, taking advantage of Kupowers and skill-up foods.

Once again, this is something you could have done in the time it took you to write your little rant. And you wouldn't be stuck in the position of trying to retroactively deny something.



Aside from saying what you mean and meaning what you say, you might also want to make sure that what you say is spelled correctly, especially when accusing someone of being intellectually feeble.

It's 2013: how could you not be using a web browser with a built-in spell-checker?



Your post was about overcrowding in 2 areas out of nearly 100 available, filled by people doing an activity that isn't even meaningfully enhanced by the doubling of EXP. The only way your rant would make sense if you were angry because you were trying to do the same thing they were (which is effectively exactly what you said).

Really? Seriously..... You need a job man. Get off of welfare and find something more constructive.

[Zarchery]

Really? Seriously..... You need a job man. Get off of welfare and find something more constructive.

You know, it was Sunday when he wrote this. Most people don't work on Sunday.

[Bahamut]

You know, it was Sunday when he wrote this. Most people don't work on Sunday.

It still is Sunday, are you a time traveler from monday with an important mission to trave back to tell me this, but the simple fact that it is the weekend makes it even that much worse... its so easy to just ignore another persons post without personal attacks or pulling them apart to that degree.

[Zarchery]

It still is Sunday, are you a time traveler from monday with an important mission to trave back to tell me this, but the simple fact that it is the weekend makes it even that much worse... its so easy to just ignore another persons post without personal attacks or pulling them apart to that degree.

Well this thread will be here for a while. Someone reading this on Thursday or next month or whatever may not immediately make the association and remember that February 10th 2013 was a Sunday and think that your silly little retort of "get a job" had some merit.

[Bahamut]

Well this thread will be here for a while. Someone reading this on Thursday or next month or whatever may not immediately make the association and remember that February 10th 2013 was a Sunday and think that your silly little retort of "get a job" had some merit.

I highly doubt someone on thursday or next month will care about posts like this, the only reason someone would read this that far into the future would be to see posts on the main subject of the matter, not our little squables and personal attacks on each other, or even the scruitizing of posts to such a degree that its taken so far out of context that the meaning changes. Thankyou for your contribution on the main subject on this thred it was something we can really get a feel for.

Maybe in the next post of ranting, you can post what you think about the double xp weekend.

[Zarchery]

You're just bitter because you made a joke on a bad premise and got caught. Do you want to make some post now about how my original post was a waste of time, even though it only took me 30 seconds to write?

I like the double XP weekend and hope they do it more. I've been wanting to collect all the AF sets, but I have to level the jobs to 50 first. I already levelled everything to 30 that wasn't already that high (for the job emote). This weekend I've zoomed DRG and SMN to 50, mostly solo (big benefit from the double XP and my Emperor Band and Allied Ring) but also with some Crawler's Nest XP (no bonus there though).

I wouldn't want it to be a regular thing though, because then that becomes the new normal and it loses its specialness.

[Zarchery]

What I can't believe is that someone got so nitpicky about the way I expressed the day of the week.

[Bahamut]

What I can't believe is that someone got so nitpicky about the way I expressed the day of the week.

I think this was the whole point of the first post I made that was nitpicked to death.

Priceless Ironey.

[nyheen]

why are you so upset for bahamut? someone makes a very good point about something then you say something dumb like "You need a job" "Get off of welfare" etc. what does that have to do with this post?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Really? Seriously..... You need a job man. Get off of welfare and find something more constructive.

Ad hominem.


its so easy to just ignore another persons post without personal attacks or pulling them apart to that degree.

Hypocrisy.

I'm also amused by your change in avatar. Are you trying to sock-puppet or something?

Lay off the trolling and try explaining what you were really doing in the Oubliette and Abyssea last night.

In the meantime, I need to get back to this !^$#ing graduate paper blowing my fictitious and irrelevant welfare check.

[Bahamut]

Ad hominem.



Hypocrisy.

I'm also amused by your change in avatar. Are you trying to sock-puppet or something?

Lay off the trolling and try explaining what you were really doing in the Oubliette and Abyssea last night.

In the meantime, I need to get back to this !^$#ing graduate paper blowing my fictitious and irrelevant welfare check.

Your off topic, what did you think of double xp weekend?

[Zarchery]

I think this was the whole point of the first post I made that was nitpicked to death.

Priceless Ironey.

First of all, you misspelled irony. Your browser's spell check should have caught that.

Secondly, I'm really amused by this sequence of events.

1) Ziyyigo-Tipyigo posts a long and thoughtful critique of one of your posts.

2) You respond with an ad-hominem attack accusing him of being a lazy welfare receiving mooch and tell him to get a job.

3) I point out the flaw in your ad-hominem (that for all we know he has a job, but he posted on a Sunday when most people are not working).

4) Instead of ignoring my criticism or acknowledging the flaw, you made some weird nitpick about the way I formatted the date.

This is a really bizarre divergence. You're not a very smart person, are you?

[Bahamut]

First of all, you misspelled irony. Your browser's spell check should have caught that.

Secondly, I'm really amused by this sequence of events.

1) Ziyyigo-Tipyigo posts a long and thoughtful critique of one of your posts.

2) You respond with an ad-hominem attack accusing him of being a lazy welfare receiving mooch and tell him to get a job.

3) I point out the flaw in your ad-hominem (that for all we know he has a job, but he posted on a Sunday when most people are not working).

4) Instead of ignoring my criticism or acknowledging the flaw, you made some weird nitpick about the way I formatted the date.

This is a really bizarre divergence. You're not a very smart person, are you?

Ummm. what did you think of the double xp weekend? lets stay on topic, and the real reason we are here.

[Byrth]

This gave me a chance to level two jobs from 1 to 30ish! Thanks SE!

[Tellahchan]

If only I had the inventory space for low level armor...
I only have 3 "low level" jobs left that would have benefited from this, but I was to busy doing other stuff and only had 5 free inv spots at the time anyway.

[Emilja]

it should be a week not only weekend, I did't got much time ; ;

[Horadrim]

it should be a week not only weekend, I did't got much time ; ;

Agreed. At least I got SAM to 30 and DRG to 66. Now to get them both to 99. :( Abyssea keying here I come... /sigh.

[Caketime]

First of all, you misspelled irony.

That is incorrect. He was not referring to irony as you and I or anyone else reading would assume. He is in fact referring to a cheese sandwich heated with a clothing iron, often consumed by drunk bachelors.

[Zarchery]

Ummm. what did you think of the double xp weekend? lets stay on topic, and the real reason we are here.
That's actually the reason most of us are here. You seem to be here to troll, and like a sucker I fell for it.

I already explained my thoughts, as did Ziyyigo, which you of course ignored as you have ignored all the criticism leveled at you and instead responded with ad-hominem.

Anyway, welcome now to my ignore-list.

[Mirage]

I sadly did not have an opportunity to participate in this double exp weekend, but I would really like it if SE did it again.

[Bahamut]

I can't wait for the next double xp weekend, I have five friends who are willing to old school camp the dunes with. Its going to be rad.

[Bahamut]

That's actually the reason most of us are here. You seem to be here to troll, and like a sucker I fell for it.

I already explained my thoughts, as did Ziyyigo, which you of course ignored as you have ignored all the criticism leveled at you and instead responded with ad-hominem.

Anyway, welcome now to my ignore-list.

Off topic again, you shouldnt be so mean to people, if you dont like thier opinion you shouldnt be harrassing them bad as you have. Just because SE wont stop you from harrassing someone else doesnt mean its ok to do. I find this alot in game also. Why cant people just disagree without having to bash others posts not even meant for them by demeaning the person who posted (calling them an AFK lvler), or in game boot someone without working out the problem. Its even worse that you double team with someone who you obviously camp others posts with on this forum for months. Remember that its even ok if someones opinion is completly wrong, harrassing people just because they were wrong, is a wrong in of itself.

I havent posted in years in this forum, but I can see how it now is being camped by people who harrass people personaly over feedback they give to SE, instead of just leting people have thier own opinions on stuff. My post was to the SE guy who posted this originaly, and just because you cannot understand everything in it, you dont have to endlessly critisize it to such a degree it makes people not want to post on this forum. Its rediculous.

Who knows, maybe you spent too much time on this forum you now think your the only opinion that should be heard, weather right or wrong, turning you eventually into the troll, has that thought ever cross your mind?....

Theres other fans who want to post here to the SE who posted this thread, not to you, please let them be heard even if its wrong in your opinion. Thank you for adding me to your ignore list, I wish you would have done that the second you seen the post of my opinion that wasnt directed to you, it would save me alot of time. Anyone else who doesnt like my opinion, please add me to your ignore list right now also, so in the future you never see my posts and you dont have to comment on them, ever ever ever again. I'm perfectly happy with only SE seeing what my opinions are.

[Elanassa]

I highly doubt someone on thursday or next month will care about posts like this...

Actually, I found this segment of the thread vastly more enjoyable and interesting than the preceeding segment, but I may have a strong case of schadenfreude, and, it's after Thursday! Wasn't able to get on for the Double XP weekend, but I'm fairly certain at least a few folks thought about returning to the game to take advantage.