Seekers of Adoulin Excitement

[Camate]

I'm sure with the update to the Seekers of Adoulin site, you guys are getting anxious for the expansion, especially now that you now a bit more about the mysterious geomancer job. :)

Associate Director Yoji Fujito was walking around the office and managed to sneak a shot at the development team testing out geomancer.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=5539&d=1359610203 (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=5539&d=1359610203)

WHAT THE! She has more weapons than a warrior! This is madness!

This is actually routine testing that happens whenever we implement any weapon or equipment, and they're verifying that all those varieties of items don't overlap the character or other equipment, or have any weird issues.

Look forward to more updates on Seekers of Adoulin, we are not too far away! :cool:

[Economizer]

This is actually routine testing that happens whenever we implement any weapon or equipment, and they're verifying that all those varieties of items don't overlap the character or other equipment, or have any weird issues.

Do some testing with Great Swords on Mithra. I think you'll find some poor Mithra who put certain giant Great Swords on their backs have nasty cuts on their tails.

[Malthar]

Know what would be funny? If Associate Director Yoji Fujito was walking around the office and found someone running Windower. lmao

[Merton9999]

Damn. I thought you were going to say that after this picture, where the Bed Pan Hat looks more pronounced than usual, that the designers finally decided to change it. Oh well.

[Sotek]

XI really needs a /display head off command.

[Zenoxio]

In regards to Mithra tails, I doubt they have any actual collision detection.


XI really needs a /display head off command.

That comment along with your sig... ಠ_ಠ

[Ethalio]

XI really needs a /display head off command.

Already exists.

/displayhead on
/displayhead off

[Merton9999]

XI really needs a /display head off command.

I don't know what's worse though - the bed pan or the bald head toon I picked 10 years ago. I'd use /displayhead off more if they implemented the character design change feature.

[Malthar]

Our hair should grow and we should have the option of cutting or styling it.

[Ophannus]

This is actually routine testing that happens whenever we implement any weapon or equipment, and they're verifying that all those varieties of items don't overlap the character or other equipment, or have any weird issues.

VERIFY THIS

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8407/42836500.png

[Zubis]

*sees pic*

They're...they're still running Windows XP?

[Baelorn]

This is actually routine testing that happens whenever we implement any weapon or equipment, and they're verifying that all those varieties of items don't overlap the character or other equipment, or have any weird issues.

So who missed this?

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/4f3f708589118b2ae50033ab.jpg

[Metaking]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FZCDmdlK0 you you you missed >.>; this might explain why <.<

[nyheen]

*sees pic*

They're...they're still running Windows XP?

looks more like a beefed up windows 95 o.o

[Mirage]

*sees pic*

They're...they're still running Windows XP?

... or win7 with the classic windows theme on.


looks more like a beefed up windows 95 o.o
You guys aren't serious, are you?

[Zubis]

It's Windows XP, definitely not Windows 7, the classic skin looks different.

Why wouldn't we be serious? ;3

[Mirage]

It could be XP, sure, but I kind of doubt your ability to correctly analyze the more subtle differences between win7's classic skin and XP's own classic skin based on a photograph at an angle of a monitor :p.

Additionally, when I had XP, the OS came with two different classic skins, one called "Windows Classic" and one called "Windows Standard". The above skin looks like "Windows Classic" which looks nearly exactly the same as Win7's "Windows Classic".

But of course, I am also analyzing this based on a low-res photograph :p.

[Camiie]

That's definitely XP in classic mode and as a bonus those are HP keyboards. XP is still quite firmly implanted in the corporate world, so it's really not much of a surprise to see them using it. As of now XP still has a little over a year of support left from Microsoft. As ubiquitous as it is it wouldn't shock me to see it extended again.

[Mirage]

I think Camate should ask them so that we could find out for certain which OS it is they're using.

[hideka]

Know what would be funny? If Associate Director Yoji Fujito was walking around the office and found someone running Windower. lmao

lol the devs that actually play the game probably use windower>_>

[Zubis]

I think Camate should ask them so that we could find out for certain which OS it is they're using.

Agreed, though I'm sort of enjoying this argument :P



It could be XP, sure, but I kind of doubt your ability to correctly analyze the more subtle differences between win7's classic skin and XP's own classic skin based on a photograph at an angle of a monitor.

Enhance!

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This is what the devs are running.

http://i.imgur.com/bHvl9fr.jpg
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This is Windows XP in classic mode. Note how the Start Menu is a perfect match. In addition, see those icons in a rectangle that are also in the dev pic? That's called the Quick Launch bar, which is not part of Windows 7 by default.

http://i.imgur.com/0TUGICS.jpg
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This is Windows 7 in classic mode. Note how the Start Menu size does not match the size in the dev pic, and the size of the taskbar is bigger.

http://i.imgur.com/sk0oBiz.jpg

I will concede that if you run Windows 7 in classic mode, turn on small icons, and use a hack to get back the Quick Launch menu, then it'll look quite similar to the dev screenshot, but as a dev you'd have to be pretty much in love with the 90s Windows modes to do that...
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Camiies is right by the way, Windows XP is still pretty popular. My own organsation of 1000 people has just decided to upgrade to Windows 7 at the end of this year.

[Aethon]

Lots of things still run only on xp. I work for Walgreens and their entire system (pharmacy, register, ect.) is all xp based. I also worked for Gamestop and same their pos system was xp based.
Also, seeing as how that was the system around when the game came out, there are no compatibility by continuing to program the game in xp. Vista was well known to not plat nicely with xp version things. Saves them money by not upgrading and saves time by not recoding everything each time a new version comes out.

[JouriStarz]

I don't know why its a big deal they're using XP since the game itself was designed for it.

[Thegreatmonkey]

I find it funny that this thread went from talking bout the game to what version of Windows they are running lol
As Camiies said, XP is still popular to run. Also I must point out that SE did say they put all there money into FF14 so they might not be able to upgrade....

[Dohati]

that beetle foot thing? i always assumed that was intentional, since they keep adding new types of beetles and they still have a backwards foot.

[Camiie]

I don't know why its a big deal they're using XP since the game itself was designed for it.

I dunno! Soon people will start complaining about "Windows XP Dev Tool Limitations" and how the game could become a fully HD game with infinite item storage and a modern UI if only the devs would upgrade to Windows 7!

[Zubis]

Windows 8 or nothing. We need touch controls for er...triggering weaknesses?

"The Kaggen readies Death Prophet! Use a finger swipe to block the attack!"

I can't think of a single reason a MMO would need touch controls.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

This is Windows XP in classic mode. Note how the Start Menu is a perfect match. In addition, see those icons in a rectangle that are also in the dev pic? That's called the Quick Launch bar, which is not part of Windows 7 by default.

http://i.imgur.com/0TUGICS.jpg
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This is Windows 7 in classic mode. Note how the Start Menu size does not match the size in the dev pic, and the size of the taskbar is bigger.

http://i.imgur.com/sk0oBiz.jpg


One word: Vista

EDIT: could also be Server 2003 or 2008 as a dev platform.

I do recall seeing them using XP x64 for XIV's original development however, in spite of that game being 32-bit only. XD

[Camiie]

Good point. I know Vista's classic mode is very close to XP's. I still think XP is more likely though.

[wildsprite]

you guys do realize with just a few adjustments you can make windows 7 classic mode look exactly the same as that right?

1. first right click on the task bar and choose properties,
2. put a check in use small icons
3. use the drop down for task bar buttons and select Combine when full
4. apply these changes
5. remove all of your pinned items from the task bar
6. right click on the task bar and choose toolbars and add new toolbar
7. point the new toolbar to any folder and name it anything you want(quicklaunch is not there by default in windows 7 because they want you to pin things to the task bar)


once you have taken all of these steps compare it
it looks exactly the same as windows XP classic/Windows 2000

but you are probably right it probably is windows XP

[Malthar]

Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor, Latin lex parsimoniae) is a principle of parsimony, economy, or succinctness used in logic and problem-solving. It states that among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected (Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor)). It's Windows XP.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

You must be real fun at parties.

[Malthar]

You have no idea. lol

[saevel]

One word: Vista

EDIT: could also be Server 2003 or 2008 as a dev platform.

I do recall seeing them using XP x64 for XIV's original development however, in spite of that game being 32-bit only. XD

Very big reason for using a 64-bit OS for development of a 32-bit program. Development tools tend to use large amounts of memory, especially the graphic ones that let you mesh and design the 3D environments and models. The final product might not use more then 1GB but the development environment could easily use more then 1.7~1.8GB.

There could actually be a valid argument for "32-bit development limitations" in that the developers tools simply can not handle modern design tools.

[Preed]

/stares at all the Window's operation system posts

...So, how about them Seekers of Adoulien, eh?
That looks kinda... kinda spiffy... :B

[Tamarsamar]

Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor, Latin lex parsimoniae) is a principle of parsimony, economy, or succinctness used in logic and problem-solving. It states that among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected (Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor)).

Quoted for SE. (See my signature quote from a friend of mine on another forum.)

[CalamityXI]

Hey SE, can we get a list of retailers that will have Seekers of Adoulin? I went to go reserve the Xbox 360 version (since I need a new disc for FFXI on there anyway) and they said they only had the digital PC version listed. Thanks in advance, I just want to figure out if I really have to order it through amazon and wait for UPS to deliver my game when it comes out :3

[Volkai]

*sees pic*

They're...they're still running Windows XP?

Tell me, what was the predominant Operating System when FFXI was originally developed?

[Camiie]

Tell me, what was the predominant Operating System when FFXI was originally developed?

Development began in November 1999 so Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 would be my best guess.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

It states that among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected (Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor)). It's Windows XP.

It takes the same amount of effort to make both XP and Vista look like that. If we're going by "fewest assumptions," then it's Server '03 or '08 used a a dev platform, which come with the "classic" theme out-of-the-box.

[Horadrim]

VERIFY THIS

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8407/42836500.png

Don't hate just cuz you don't gots no beetle swag. He's givin you the stank leg.

[Horadrim]

Tell me, what was the predominant Operating System when FFXI was originally developed?

Big corporations tend to have a hard time updating software.. .We're still on Windows XP here at my job and only barely "considering" the switch to Windows 7. We waited almost two years to upgrade to the second-to-latest version of software that we use everyday as well..

Updating stuff like that in big corps is a slow, painstaking process that has to be combed through by IT for a while. I don't agree with the delay, as a tech savvy person, but frankly I don't care to argue with it. We have a lot of older people here who can barely turn their computers on in the morning -- can't expect them to deal with the inevitable troubles of major updates.

[Infidi]

Did they ever fix Cid's teeth?

[Rustic]

Did they ever fix Cid's teeth?

Dude needs braces. They don't HAVE those in Vana'diel.

[wildsprite]

Did they ever fix Cid's teeth?
what? you don't like that super creepy smile?

[Camate]

Greetings everyone!

If you’ve already been completed the quests that were implemented that tie-in to the new expansion, surely you're thirsty for more material relating to the lore of Seekers of Adoulin, right?

In case you missed the announcement on topics, we've just posted some juicy lore-filled literature (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9851/detail.html)! The theme for this installment is about the background story of Adoulin's flag.

We spoke to lead for this and received a nice comment I'd like to share with you:



Thanks so much for your interest in the Adoulin literature.

The theme for this issue revolves around explaining why Adoulin's flag has an insignia with twelve swords upon it. Please take a moment and read through it.

The characters that are introduced in the literature are people that you can actually meet in South San d’Oria. Of course they will not tell you about Adoulin in-game, but if you feel the need after reading, drop by to say hi to them.


Stayed tuned for more issues where you can delve deeper into the lore of Adoulin!

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I for one welcome more lore that focuses on cookies.

[Tamarsamar]

I loved the inclusion of Balasiel, personally. Takes me back to when I did the series of quests leading up to "A Knight's Test". Good times.

[Antanias]

<--still waits for Rune Fencer details.

[Malthar]

Yes, yes, yes, SE, but what we really want to know is what is the OS for the developer machines?

[Kagetachi]

actually there is a very good reason why they would not update the os for the devolopment systems used for FFXI. They have stable machines that are used only for that purpose. no need to invest in making new computers. The developer machines for their other projects are probably using newer OS.

[Scuro]

Can you please just release information on how Rune Fencer will operate... It would be nice to get information on a new class that could potentially be awesome or be terrible, unlike Geomancer which will be pretty much just something to do in this game rather then an "ERMAHGERD DAT JOB IS AWESOME!"

[Fushichou]

So when are the download pages for EU players going to appear? NA/JP's been up for a while now. Seems a bit off to not have this sorted out by now though, Well I guess there's plenty of time kind of.

[Amaroq]

So when are the download pages for EU players going to appear? NA/JP's been up for a while now. Seems a bit off to not have this sorted out by now though, Well I guess there's plenty of time kind of.

Ive been thinking the same thing. Can we just download the NA version?

[NDSI]

The client of FFXI is universal for US/EU/JP, only the registry makes the difference in which section of the game is used.
you can turn your NA release in a JP/DE/FR/ release by changing some registry entry, so installing a expansion pack from another region should not be a problem, as they are seperate installers.

[Fushichou]

Installing is one thing, Having a correct Region Code is another. Codes are still region locked regardless so unless they change that and make it universal EU Players are still in the dark. But only time will tell, Even if it's so slowly running out.

[Camate]

Top o’ the morning to everyone!

In case you haven’t checked topics today, we just posted the next installment of our series to deepen everyone’s knowledge of the new mysterious city of Adoulin.

The third volume, “The Sacred City of Adoulin (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9905/detail.html),” sheds insight on the history and establishment of the city, as well as some interesting demographics.

Definitely take a moment to read it over when you have some time!

Just a little over a month to go until everyone can embark on a brand new adventure! :)


Previous volumes:

Volume 1: The Unfurling Tales of the Mystical Waypoints (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9730/detail.html)

Volume 2: A Farewell to Cookies and a Greeting to Arms (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9851/detail.html)

[Antanias]

Top o’ the morning to everyone!

In case you haven’t checked topics today, we just posted the next installment of our series to deepen everyone’s knowledge of the new mysterious city of Adoulin.

The third volume, “The Sacred City of Adoulin (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9905/detail.html),” sheds insight on the history and establishment of the city, as well as some interesting demographics.

Definitely take a moment to read it over when you have some time!

Just a little over a month to go until everyone can embark on a brand new adventure! :)


Previous volumes:

Volume 1: The Unfurling Tales of the Mystical Waypoints (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9730/detail.html)

Volume 2: A Farewell to Cookies and a Greeting to Arms (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9851/detail.html)
Where are the Rune Fencer details?

[Zhronne]

Awesome! I love all this lore for Ubulka and Adoulin!!

[Afin]

as its starting to get tiring on people that are asking this, can you please (i'll even give you a cookie) shed some light as to what are happening with the pre orders for the EU side. Because it feels like were being kept in the dark about it. Were fearing we'll not see it on release date as we can't see it in any EU store, or on the EU SE site...

[Godofgods]

Top o’ the morning to everyone!

In case you haven’t checked topics today, we just posted the next installment of our series to deepen everyone’s knowledge of the new mysterious city of Adoulin.

The third volume, “The Sacred City of Adoulin (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9905/detail.html),” sheds insight on the history and establishment of the city, as well as some interesting demographics.

Definitely take a moment to read it over when you have some time!

Just a little over a month to go until everyone can embark on a brand new adventure! :)


Previous volumes:

Volume 1: The Unfurling Tales of the Mystical Waypoints (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9730/detail.html)

Volume 2: A Farewell to Cookies and a Greeting to Arms (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9851/detail.html)


Population
Humes: 35%
Mithra: 25%
Elvaan: 15%
San d'Orian Elvaans: 10%
Ouschrahd Galka: 10%
Other: 5%

Taru haters!!

[SpankWustler]

Population:
Humes: 35%
Mithra: 25%
Elvaan: 15%
San d'Orian Elvaans: 10%
Ouschrahd Galka: 10%
Other: 5%

Somehow, get the feeling that Adoulin is going to have a lot of counters that my character can't see over and stairs-steps that come up to my character's chest. If I didn't know what horrible things the little guy had done, being the one who made him do them, I'd feel bad about his struggles in this new and step-ladder-less land.

[Alhanelem]

I do like how the city actually looks rather city-like, moreso than most of the others in the game. It is a bit on the gray side, but looks good overall.

Oh and any city lacking in tarutaru is okay in my book :cool:

[Tamarsamar]

You know, as an adventurer Adoulin seeking expansion promises to be the best thing ever, but I can't help but be wary when the Ministries of History and Education, Health, and Security are opposed to the idea.

[Alhanelem]

You know, as an adventurer Adoulin seeking expansion promises to be the best thing ever, but I can't help but be wary when the Ministries of History and Education, Health, and Security are opposed to the idea.
It's really not in any of those iministries' interests for that to happen- security would be opposed to the influx of foreigners, health would be opposed to the diseases and health risks those foreigners bring with them, and history/education would fear cultural damage.

[Demon6324236]

Yep, same reasons I was thinking of, makes sense why they would be opposed to the idea of a bunch of new people coming to the country.

[Elphy]

Its too bad they used the same tilesets they used for other areas instead of making something new and refreshing like they did with toau. Especially in the city itself. But since the rest of the maps we have seen also look like a rehash of previously used areas its not too much of a surprise that the city has elements of sandy and jeuno and such. Even the statue of Altana is just cut and pasted out of the hall of the gods.

I guess we can just be thankful they didnt just plop a new color and new music on a map and call it a new zone. Still feels lazy for a game with such a cult following. Like its just a bone SE is throwing us. Then to add insult to injury they seem to try to explain it away with lore.

Oh well, beggers cant be choosers I guess.

[Sargent]

as its starting to get tiring on people that are asking this, can you please (i'll even give you a cookie) shed some light as to what are happening with the pre orders for the EU side. Because it feels like were being kept in the dark about it. Were fearing we'll not see it on release date as we can't see it in any EU store, or on the EU SE site...

Can I just add, while there is the promise of a disc version for XBox 360, this is not yet up for pre-order on any major retailers websites (Amazon, Play etc). Can SE at least allow us to pre-order the expansion somewhere?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Ministries of... Health, and Security are opposed to the idea.

There's the first mission right there: waiting out the mandatory quarantine period! It lasts until the next conquest tally.

[Demon6324236]

Dont... just... dont... SE can come up with their own ideas on how to make the missions suck...

[SpankWustler]

Dont... just... dont... SE can come up with their own ideas on how to make the missions suck...

The Development Bros could also give the different guilds of Adoulin quests that tie into the Adoulin missions, and make it impossible for anyone not on or past that particular quest for that particular guild to participate. It would be like quests of the three nations in Wings of the Goddess, taken up to eleven.

Also, it would be horrible. Super-duper horrible.

[Metaking]

na se is just going to give all taru a free job ablity to fly like the AA taru ^^/

[Kraggy]

The Silver Spoon (members-only auction house)
Members-only sounds ominous; Blizzard recently added 'exclusive' content only available initially to the ungodly rich, gold sellers had a field day, hope SE aren't planning something similar.

[Demon6324236]

That caught my eye as well... I hope membership is as simple as missions, like becoming a merc in Aht or something like CoP had with Tav.

[Teraniku]

Can I just add, while there is the promise of a disc version for XBox 360, this is not yet up for pre-order on any major retailers websites (Amazon, Play etc). Can SE at least allow us to pre-order the expansion somewhere?

Which Region are you? I have both the 360 (Disc, naturally), and PC (Digital Download) on pre order.

[Rustic]

Although it's elsewhere on General, I'm leaving this link here:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/02/21/massively-exclusive-an-in-depth-look-at-final-fantasy-xis-new/

As it's got more info on Rune Fencer (RUN) and Geomancer (GEO) than anything else to-date.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

S-E telling the gaming press more than they say on their own forums?

Embarrassingly, that's pretty standard fare for S-E.

[Camate]

Taru haters!!

No! I promise it’s not like that! (And I am speaking as a Tarutaru myself!)

Lore-wise there really aren’t that many Tarutarus who adventure out beyond the green and safe Sarutabarta region (though I suppose a Tarutaru at level 1 is not very safe from gigantic crawlers and Yagudos who roam these areas). Of course there are some super-Tarus who possess higher than normal abilities though! I’m sure you can name a handful. However, due to this we’ve placed the Tarutarus who reside in Adoulin into the 5% “Other” group. I assure you though that walking around the town you will still encounter a good deal of Tarutaru NPCs, and even meet some distinguished ones while adventuring.

Also, in case you were curious…

The twelve orders of Adoulin are not based on a hereditary succession system. Before the development of the city-state, each house was a small country, but appointed the person most apt for each job to represent the whole. Due to this, currently only the house name remains for each order. For example, Gratzigg is the Peacekeepers’ Coalition Maester because he is a man with a lot of influence. However, the house of Adoulin, which was once royal has a blood successor and Ygnas is the legitimate successor of August.

Once all of you adventurers head over to Adoulin you’ll get even deeper into the history. I hope you are looking forward to it! :)

[Horadrim]

Although it's elsewhere on General, I'm leaving this link here:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/02/21/massively-exclusive-an-in-depth-look-at-final-fantasy-xis-new/

As it's got more info on Rune Fencer (RUN) and Geomancer (GEO) than anything else to-date.

All I need to know is if RNF has its own Enmity boosting ability -- I really want RNF/SAM.

[Tennotsukai]

All I need to know is if RNF has its own Enmity boosting ability -- I really want RNF/SAM.

meh.. provoke isn't that good anyways. it gets shut down a lot. I hope they end up fixing issues with enmity.

[Seyomeyo]

here's a question on everybody's mind--will RUN get access to any plate armor? Hoping they aren't totally screwed in the STR department since it's been said they can DPS a bit.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Lore-wise there really aren’t that many Tarutarus who adventure out beyond the green and safe Sarutabarta region

Are we talking about the same race that crushed all resistance in the Middle Lands under its (admittedly small) boot heel during the Age of Magic?

[Seyomeyo]

Are we talking about the same race that crushed all resistance in the Middle Lands under its (admittedly small) boot heel during the Age of Magic?

Taru power!

[Horadrim]

here's a question on everybody's mind--will RUN get access to any plate armor? Hoping they aren't totally screwed in the STR department since it's been said they can DPS a bit.

I'm pretty sure its a yes on both of those fronts. They are like Tanky Dark Knights, it seems like. A union between a trifecta of Red Mage, Paladin, and Dark Knight.

I'd say their highest stats will be:

MND > STR > INT > VIT

Here's hoping Runes use MND. I never get to stack MND.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I'm actually doubting Rune Fencer will get heavy armor available to PLD/WAR/SAM/DRG.

From what I've seen so far, the idea seems to be this:

Imagine two intersecting, orthogonal axes, one horizontal and one vertical. The intersection point, the point of origin, is Red Mage. The horizontal axis is magical abilities; White Mage is to the right, Black Mage is to the left. The vertical axis is newish and describes melee abilities: Paladin is up and Rune Fencer is down.

They're denying Rune Fencer Protect V just as they've denied Paladin Shell V. I don't expect Rune Fencer to have better (melee) armor options than Red Mage has.

[Rustic]

I'm actually doubting Rune Fencer will get heavy armor available to PLD/WAR/SAM/DRG.

From what I've seen so far, the idea seems to be this:

Imagine two intersecting, orthogonal axes, one horizontal and one vertical. The intersection point, the point of origin, is Red Mage. The horizontal axis is magical abilities; White Mage is to the right, Black Mage is to the left. The vertical axis is newish and describes melee abilities: Paladin is up and Rune Fencer is down.

They're denying Rune Fencer Protect V just as they've denied Paladin Shell V. I don't expect Rune Fencer to have better (melee) armor options than Red Mage has.

I'm thinking that we see RUN get up to scale-tier armor, just like RDM does. At best, you're talking armor sets like Dragoons get.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

By "heavy armor" I had in mind the stuff available to jobs that get proc'd by weapon skills in Dynamis. I'm expecting Rune Fencer to be limited to armor you'd see on jobs proc'd by job abilities.

[Godofgods]

No! I promise it’s not like that! (And I am speaking as a Tarutaru myself!)

Lore-wise there really aren’t that many Tarutarus who adventure out beyond the green and safe Sarutabarta region.

Can you blame them? The tarus who went to whitegate cant even get a stool...

[SpankWustler]

I think it might be interesting to have a two-handed job that uses medium armor, now that both two-handed weapons and medium armor are worlds better than when Dragoon was in that position. Of course, there's a chance that will also make Rune Fencer's Resolution set the bane of all inventories.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Of course, there's a chance that will also make Rune Fencer's Resolution set the bane of all inventories.

What are you talking about? I'm sure they'll look lovely in pink!

[Demon6324236]

I don't expect Rune Fencer to have better (melee) armor options than Red Mage has.Then the job is already screwed, because RDM's best TP set is laughable, much to my disapointment...

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Then the job is already screwed, because RDM's best TP set is laughable

It's a tank...

/sigh

[Demon6324236]

It's a tank...

/sighYour point? If its a tank or if its a DD, it should have the ability to use a TP set in either case, in case you haven't noticed, PLDs use TP sets too... But ok, its a tank, your still lacking a ton of tank gear on RDM. You lose access to Twilight, Nocturnus, Mekira Mek, Ogier's Helm, Laeradr, need I go on? Heavy armor has the most -DT stats per piece of any gear out there, a tank not being on it is like a healer not being on the best cure potency pieces.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Your point? If its a tank or if its a DD, it should have the ability to use a TP set in either case, in case you haven't noticed, PLDs use TP sets too...

PLD uses TP sets because they can't actually tank any more; their only option is to pretend to be a DD. That will hopefully no longer be the case after Dear Developers implement the Brave New World of Enmity.


But ok, its a tank, your still lacking a ton of tank gear on RDM. You lose access to Twilight, Nocturnus, Mekira Mek, Ogier's Helm, Laeradr, need I go on? Heavy armor has the most -DT stats per piece of any gear out there

It's a magic tank...


a tank not being on it is like a healer not being on the best cure potency pieces.

Ninja.

[Demon6324236]

PLD uses TP sets because they can't actually tank any more; their only option is to pretend to be a DD. That will hopefully no longer be the case after Dear Developers implement the Brave New World of Enmity.They are not getting rid of damage based enmity completely, some damage will need to come from the job in order to maintain hate, JAs cant do it all by themselves. Also, the job is using Great Sword as their main weapon, damage output is to be expected in some form, if they are only taking damage while dealing very little then they should be using Shield and Sword like a PLD, or something with more defenses built into its weapons and weaponskills.


It's a magic tank...Every piece I listed is a Damage Taken piece, not a PDT piece. The only exceptions to that are Nocturnus, which has Magic Absorbtion, an amazing stat, and Twilight, which has a ton of INT & MND, as well as Auto-Reraise, stats that are amazing for magic damage, and just generally surviving. I understand the idea behind it being a magic tank, I also understand however that it will not go well if it does not have the armor to do that job effectivly.


Ninja.You mean the evasion tank which gets access to a ton of evasion gear, as well as fast cast gear to speed up its shadows cast speed, not to mention haste gear which lowers recast? Yes, I know, it has gear that accentuates the fact it is an evasion tank whos method of tanking involves not being hit, rather than being hit and taking much less damage from it. Rune sounds as though it is going to be one of those tanks who expect to get hit, but take little damage from it, part of this is shown in my opinion by the fact it gets Phalanx. I suppose I did say it in a way that sounded differently than I intended, so allow me to clarify. A job not on the primary gear which accentuates its traits to the fullest sounds crazy and irrational, if its job is to tank magic the best, it should be on gear which is the best for doing just that. Putting it on other gear seems foolish, and only asking for it to do worse at its job then it should.

[SpankWustler]

Assuming the information thus far about Rune Fencer is spot on, I'm not sure what use the job would have for equipment used to cast Enfeebling Magic, Dark Magic, Elemental Magic, or Healing Magic. Surely, the Development Bros wouldn't put a new job almost entirely on equipment that does nothing for it...


... (http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Wikyo_Cloak)

http://img.bluegartr.com/wiki/b/b5/Puppetmaster.jpg

... (http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Shaman%27s_Cloak)

...abandon all hope. Kill the children now so that they will not have to endure what is to come.

[Tamarsamar]

In all seriousness, I fully expect Rune Fencer to be a heavy armor class, simply because the game has comparatively few heavy armor classes. To wit, compare the list of jobs that can use the Nuevo Coselete, the Mirke Wardecors, and the Royal Redingote.

[Demon6324236]

Really same could be said of any of the sets which have come out in the last few months, they all have about 6 Heavy, 6 Mages, and 8 Light. So Rune is probably Heavy and Geo is probably Mage, be a bit more balanced then between the 3 as well.

[ManaKing]

I'm pretty sure its a yes on both of those fronts. They are like Tanky Dark Knights, it seems like. A union between a trifecta of Red Mage, Paladin, and Dark Knight.

I'd say their highest stats will be:

MND > STR > INT > VIT

Here's hoping Runes use MND. I never get to stack MND.

Play RDM?


I'm actually doubting Rune Fencer will get heavy armor available to PLD/WAR/SAM/DRG.

From what I've seen so far, the idea seems to be this:

Imagine two intersecting, orthogonal axes, one horizontal and one vertical. The intersection point, the point of origin, is Red Mage. The horizontal axis is magical abilities; White Mage is to the right, Black Mage is to the left. The vertical axis is newish and describes melee abilities: Paladin is up and Rune Fencer is down.

They're denying Rune Fencer Protect V just as they've denied Paladin Shell V. I don't expect Rune Fencer to have better (melee) armor options than Red Mage has.

PLD has much better TP gear than RDM. Don't see how Rune Fencer would have bad TP options. Only thing that slows PLDs down is their Shield, something Rune Fencer isn't looking at.


I think it might be interesting to have a two-handed job that uses medium armor, now that both two-handed weapons and medium armor are worlds better than when Dragoon was in that position. Of course, there's a chance that will also make Rune Fencer's Resolution set the bane of all inventories.

Yeah, I'm scared of that. CDC gear is the reason I don't use CDC on RDM. No space.

I hope they have the gear of BST instead of PUP. BST is on so much stuff. Phorcys + Skadi+1 = Happy.

I hope they add them on to stuff like NNI and Salvage gear. It would be hard to image them doing well without that or just really broken AF, Relic, and Empyrean.

[Tennotsukai]

Then the job is already screwed, because RDM's best TP set is laughable, much to my disapointment...

Will probably be able to equip armor like blu, thf, mnk, etc has. Thaumas set....not Nares

[Llama]

looks like they're using XSI to create content, so probably xp. Don't think vista was ever officially supported.

[Camate]

Greetings everyone!

The Community Team has journeyed deep into Ulbuka to explore all the brand-new content Seekers of Adoulin has to offer. We're happy to say that we are currently planning to hold a live stream in the very, very near future to show off and comment on some of the new aspects that can be found in the expansion. Once we have a confirmed broadcasting date we will be sure to update you all, but please look forward to joining myself and the rest of the Community Team for some awesome live stream action. :)

[Sapphire]

Please please please PLEASE refer to the person who is function as the camera as Mr./Ms. Camera the entire time.

:D

[Demon6324236]

While this is good news, we are but 13 days from release, and we are still waiting till the "very, very near future" to see things, this for some reason does not make me happy or feel better about the expansion.

[Unctgtg]

You do release Demon, that before all we got was pictures of new expansions and barely that. We should consider ourselves lucky we are even getting this. I for one took off 6 straight days from work to play. Going to be epic honestly.

[Demon6324236]

I do realize that, but its still pathetic on many levels that it took till this close to release that we will be getting some video about it in the "very, very near future" especially when going by their normal speed on things. This sort of thing should have been here already a month or more before release, not a week and a half. Besides that they have showed off very little so far, what we have actually seen was a trailer, I honestly don't think the English side of things has seen anything else or at least not much.

We should be excited about the new events, looking forward to what is coming, they originally made some things sound very new to the game and as if it were completely different than we have seen before, like the exploring, being able to remove obstacles in terrain. Rather than showing any of this off so far, we have seen nothing, we have had some words thrown at us, but more from third party sources than from SE and the official site itself. So while I am still looking forward to the expansion, I feel like it is a hollow excitement, its like a kid excited for Christmas, I could open my present to find the best thing I could have wished for, something that was worth the wait and excitement. At the same time, I could open my present to find a lump of coal which I hate and despise, only proving more to me that my parents do not care and that all these months of excitement about my presents was only setting myself up for a massive disappointment.

Basically, I feel this is long overdue, and I feel like its to little to late, we should have saw a lot more of the expansion and what it has to offer by now, and at this point it feels like a hollow gesture to give us a little video on it when most of us have spent our money on it already if we were going to, and it will be out in less than two weeks.

[tobyx]

What's more amazing is that this close to release, people in the EU can't even preorder or buy the digital edition of the product yet. You can preorder an Xbox disc... yay.

Why they wouldn't just let us purchase the expansion code on the account management website and have the client download all necessary data is beyond me. But that's how it's been for more than ten years, no need to change, right?

[Demon6324236]

What's more amazing is that this close to release, people in the EU can't even preorder or buy the digital edition of the product yet. You can preorder an Xbox disc... yay.

Why they wouldn't just let us purchase the expansion code on the account management website and have the client download all necessary data is beyond me. But that's how it's been for more than ten years, no need to change, right?While I agree that is ridiculous that EU players are getting that kind of treatment, the reason for not letting us download it from the client is simple. Look at updates the day they come out, the amount of issues people have downloading it, the speed it goes at, if it were a full expansion doing that it would take much longer and it would be hellish wait times for people. When a new update happens right now it takes about 2 hours for a larger update which adds things like Neo-Salvage, many people are forced to wait a while because the servers can not support that many people downloading it at one time, so they are disconnected either during the update or before they can start it. If it were a full on expansion being downloaded, it would take more like 10 hours or more and it would also end up being a much longer waiting line because of the time it takes.

Or at least, thats what I believe, if I am wrong someone please correct me.

[Cowardlybabooon]

Wow what a bunch of negative nancys! Thanks Camate for the information that the COMMUNITY TEAM went out of their way to film and narrate a video for us only a few days after there were multiple forum requests. Considering the DEVELOPMENT TEAM was probably extremely hard at work making sure there weren't a large number of glitches considering you guys developed the entire expansion in maybe 6-9 months. I wish I could take 6 days off of work as well and I would if it were up to me. I only hope that all of the new gear introduced in the expansion doesn't make all the recent "best" gear obsolete since I just finally got nearly completely pimped. From what I've seen on the SoA website though, I'm stoked about the HNM type fights and hope they invite some of the old school strategy killing again.

Last thing though, can you tell us if the new 1-Hours and embrava/perfect defense nerf are coming so that I can sell all my enhancing gear to buy it back in 2 months. Thanks!

[Ryx]

Camate,

Can you please tell the Camera man to tab around frequently, be in THIRD person view the entire time, and for the love of Altana...PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT USE THE MINIMUM GRAPHIC SETTINGS. I've watched the JP stream recording, and quite frankly, it made me want to gouge my eyes out.

Is it going to be a set of NA representatives, or will it be Matsuiakihiko and Mocchi in english?

[Demon6324236]

Considering the DEVELOPMENT TEAM was probably extremely hard at work making sure there weren't a large number of glitches considering you guys developed the entire expansion in maybe 6-9 months.SoA was announced at Vanafest on June 23rd. That was 9 months ago, and I am sure they had some work done before they announced it, so its probably more around a year or more that they worked on it. Not saying your wrong about them working hard on it, but I still feel as though they are giving us to little to late so far as informing us what it will have, which annoys me for a few reasons but outside of that it seems like a wasted opportunity they had to get this game some more players which is something our producer said he wanted to do earlier this year. Rather than using the opportunity that this gave them they instead kept quiet about almost everything since it was announced and only now that it is so close to release are we finally seeing them tell us we will get some video in English of the expansion being played. Mind you I also expect the video to be full of things we already know, giving us very little info, that part is negative on my part but the rest I do not think as being negative, but rather realistic.

[Demon6324236]

Is it going to be a set of NA representatives, or will it be Matsuiakihiko and Mocchi in english?My guess would be Camate & Oki will be doing ours.

[Sargent]

Greetings everyone!

The Community Team has journeyed deep into Ulbuka to explore all the brand-new content Seekers of Adoulin has to offer. We're happy to say that we are currently planning to hold a live stream in the very, very near future to show off and comment on some of the new aspects that can be found in the expansion. Once we have a confirmed broadcasting date we will be sure to update you all, but please look forward to joining myself and the rest of the Community Team for some awesome live stream action. :)

Can you confirm a release date for the expansion for PC in Europe? It's shambolic that there is still no word on this with 2 weeks before release.

[tobyx]

While I agree that is ridiculous that EU players are getting that kind of treatment, the reason for not letting us download it from the client is simple. Look at updates the day they come out, the amount of issues people have downloading it, the speed it goes at, if it were a full expansion doing that it would take much longer and it would be hellish wait times for people. When a new update happens right now it takes about 2 hours for a larger update which adds things like Neo-Salvage, many people are forced to wait a while because the servers can not support that many people downloading it at one time, so they are disconnected either during the update or before they can start it. If it were a full on expansion being downloaded, it would take more like 10 hours or more and it would also end up being a much longer waiting line because of the time it takes.

Or at least, thats what I believe, if I am wrong someone please correct me.

In fact, buying the expansion on an online site (for NA there is the official Square Enix store but the European one doesn't have Adoulin) would make you download the expansion as an installer, lessening the amount of data you have to download when the patch goes live.

That would, however, require the expansion to actually be purchasable somewhere :D

[Retsujo]

SoA was announced at Vanafest on June 23rd. That was 9 months ago, and I am sure they had some work done before they announced it, so its probably more around a year or more that they worked on it.

I don't care how long they worked on it so long as the entire story doesn't get drawn out over 3+ years after release.

[Malthar]

Camate, you still didn't answer the burning question.
What is that operating system that they're using?!

[Dazusu]

You do release Demon, that before all we got was pictures of new expansions and barely that. We should consider ourselves lucky we are even getting this. I for one took off 6 straight days from work to play. Going to be epic honestly.

The epic part will be your rage when 5 of those days consist of emergency maintenance's.

[Riggs]

Wow what a bunch of negative nancys! Thanks Camate for the information that the COMMUNITY TEAM went out of their way to film and narrate a video for us only a few days after there were multiple forum requests. Considering the DEVELOPMENT TEAM was probably extremely hard at work making sure there weren't a large number of glitches considering you guys developed the entire expansion in maybe 6-9 months. I wish I could take 6 days off of work as well and I would if it were up to me. I only hope that all of the new gear introduced in the expansion doesn't make all the recent "best" gear obsolete since I just finally got nearly completely pimped. From what I've seen on the SoA website though, I'm stoked about the HNM type fights and hope they invite some of the old school strategy killing again.

Last thing though, can you tell us if the new 1-Hours and embrava/perfect defense nerf are coming so that I can sell all my enhancing gear to buy it back in 2 months. Thanks!

your forgetting based on SE's history we will get 10% of the expansion on release and the rest when they make it over the next 2 years, however we all pay for it up front, its a great business model

[Cruentus]

I just want to know one thing. I got the Final Fantasy XI: Ultimate Collection -- Abyssea Edition through Steam. If I pre-order Seekers of Adoulin through the official site now, and I do the download and installation, will it work? Or, do we need to wait however long for Steam to get Seekers of Adoulin as DLC or whatever?

[Prothscar]

need to find some way to get Fujito involved in this, that guy is a boss

[SpankWustler]

I just want to know one thing. I got the Final Fantasy XI: Ultimate Collection -- Abyssea Edition through Steam. If I pre-order Seekers of Adoulin through the official site now, and I do the download and installation, will it work?

Both versions are exactly the same and thus totally compatible, you'll just have to make sure that Seekers of Adoulin installs to where-ever steam puts FFXI. I don't know exactly where that is but I assume it's just with all other steam games?

Alternatively, the installer may be a symbol of how horrible SE is at designing software for computers, and you'll want to make sure that FFXI is already where Seekers of Adoulin is predetermined to install to by moving the Playonline folder that contains FFXI et al. to Program Files.

Either way, it'll work with minimal fuss.

[Babekeke]

I assume that this all means that there will be no test server pre-release >.> Roll on 2 weeks of emergency maints

[Kraggy]

I'm sure with the update to the Seekers of Adoulin site, you guys are getting anxious for the expansion, especially now that you now a bit more about the mysterious geomancer job. :)
For those in EU it's a non-event.

On the NA site there's a big green 'preorder now' button, which is entirely absent from the EU site, I see no way to pre-order it here.

Seems EU players aren't intended to play this expac.

I apologise for my sarrcastic comment some weeks ago when people were complaining about the lack of a pre-order facility for the EU, I was assuming SE EU were being their usual tardy selves and were taking a few days longer than the rest of SE worldwide in getting things together: some 4 weeks or more later clearly I was wrong.

[Cruentus]

Okay, I bought the pre-order thing. The problem now is that I can't even check on my order. FindMyOrder.com asks for an order number and a password, and I don't have a password. It won't take my Square Enix password, either. Do I just need to wait for the release date itself, or is there something really wrong here? I even tried the password help thing, and it just says my password was based on my order.

[NDSI]

Okay, I bought the pre-order thing. The problem now is that I can't even check on my order. FindMyOrder.com asks for an order number and a password, and I don't have a password. It won't take my Square Enix password, either. Do I just need to wait for the release date itself, or is there something really wrong here? I even tried the password help thing, and it just says my password was based on my order.

You cannot find an order if it is not been physicly shipped yet, and even then it might sometimes take up to 24 hours before it can be tracked based on what delivery company is doing it

[Karma]

This question might have already been asked.I'm not looking through everything to find out I'm gonna ask anyway.If I bought the XBox version (EU) and entered my code on the SE account page would the game still install from the server.I don't really want to have a download without a box and artwork.Id rather do it this way if it's possible.

[NDSI]

This question might have already been asked.I'm not looking through everything to find out I'm gonna ask anyway.If I bought the XBox version (EU) and entered my code on the SE account page would the game still install from the server.I don't really want to have a download without a box and artwork.Id rather do it this way if it's possible.

the Expansion is not downloaded from the servers from SE. so no, the code however will work for your account but you would have to play on X360, untill you find an uploaded version of the digital download for PC (which is universal unlike the registration code)

[Kraggy]

the Expansion is not downloaded from the servers from SE. so no, the code however will work for your account but you would have to play on X360, untill you find an uploaded version of the digital download for PC (which is universal unlike the registration code)
So is THIS how SE expects us EU PC players to get it .. buy the XBOX version then wait for someone else to upload a torrent?

REALLY?

[NDSI]

So is THIS how SE expects us EU PC players to get it .. buy the XBOX version then wait for someone else to upload a torrent?

REALLY?

As it stands atm yes, I wish them good luck tho, cause only amazon.co.uk has them up for pre-order, so they gotta do the job of probally 50 if not more stores through out EU, to supply it to a bunch of countries.

[RagingAvatar]

Seriously, mods, what's going on with the EU PC boxed release?
Where is the EU Seeker's Edition for PC and X360?
We're fans, we're not here to bash you, we're here to talk about a game we *like*!
Please, tell us, where are we going to be able to buy the game in the version we want?
(It really shouldn't be this hard to give Square-Enix our money.)

[Dazusu]

As it stands atm yes, I wish them good luck tho, cause only amazon.co.uk has them up for pre-order, so they gotta do the job of probally 50 if not more stores through out EU, to supply it to a bunch of countries.

Stop posting tripe.

SquareEnix doesn't *expect* you to do this, and I'm positive that there will be a PC version for EU players to download before release.


Seriously, mods, what's going on with the EU PC boxed release?
Where is the EU Seeker's Edition for PC

There is no boxed release in the US for PC - what makes you think EU is getting one? There will be a digital version available before release.

Way too much panic people...

[Cair]

There have been three streams (well, one "trial") in Japanese now, and while I understand that the development team is Japanese and that can be limiting on the potential to stream in English.. the pre-release Japanese trailer was now uploaded over a day ago, yet it remains to be seen in other languages.

Thanks for caring about your non-JP base!

[Cruentus]

So exactly what do I do about my order?

[Mnejing]

Uh, the blurb on PlayOnline has the stream listed as an hr later (8pm PT) than what Hvinire posted here (http://na.square-enix.com/finalfantasyxiseekersofadoulin/go/article/view/blog/261833/mmo_monday:_streaming_adoulin_this_wednesday) at (7pm PT), which one is correct?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

The 8 PM one is probably correct; It's the one where they remember to specify Pacific Daylight Time. Hvinire probably forgot to factor in the time change.

[Mnejing]

The 8 PM one is probably correct; It's the one where they remember to specify Pacific Daylight Time. Hvinire probably forgot to factor in the time change.
The FFXI twitchtv channel has it listed for 7PM PDT as well http://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxi_en.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

We often complain that S-E doesn't tell us anything. But when they do start talking, it becomes all too obvious they have no idea what's going on either.

[Camate]

Uh, the blurb on PlayOnline has the stream listed as an hr later (8pm PT) than what Hvinire posted here (http://na.square-enix.com/finalfantasyxiseekersofadoulin/go/article/view/blog/261833/mmo_monday:_streaming_adoulin_this_wednesday) at (7pm PT), which one is correct?

Sorry for the confusion! The time has been slightly changed since what was posted by Hvinire due to technical reasons, and the correct time is in fact 8PM PDT. The MMO Monday article has been updated as well. Hope you are all looking forward to the stream! :)

[pancakesandsx]

Camate: Can you find out if the game is going to be available on steam on day one? I would like to keep everything in steam if possible but no pre order or anything has gone up yet and we're awfully close to release.

[Cruentus]

So exactly what do I do about my order?

I don't appreciate being ignored...

[Demon6324236]

I don't appreciate being ignored...You came to the wrong forums if that was something you wanted to avoid.

[Michizane]

Sorry for the confusion! The time has been slightly changed since what was posted by Hvinire due to technical reasons, and the correct time is in fact 8PM PDT. The MMO Monday article has been updated as well. Hope you are all looking forward to the stream! :)


8pm PDT? way to bone those who live in the Midwest and East coast who have to go to work the next morning...

[Rubeus]

I don't appreciate being ignored...

I'm having a similar problem as Cruentus is, and am now 3 emails deep with SE to figure it out, and so far no resolution. going to digitalriver, can't find my order by email and CC, can't find my order by order # and my usual PW. forgot my password gave me a courteous "password based on order." Going to reset my SE password does it for your whole SE account, or your lame SE Members account, but still won't fix the problem on digitalriver. www.findmyorder.com does the exact same thing and the SE Store tracker says "no such order exists." emailing SE about this brought me to an SE Store order display page which promptly told me my email isn't registered. Logging into my SE Members account with the tiny login button in the upper right that opens a popup works and finds the order, saying it'll ship on the 26th, but so far still haven't been charged for it and still haven't received a registration code, so I dunno if the XB360 people are already getting registration codes or not. Or what's going on, or where it'll download from, ad nauseum. Seems like their entire storefront is made of 3 different websites with seperate accounts and customer databases, which is very disjointed.

Also, it's currently impossible to buy the Seekers Ultimate collection, because the stupid music box isn't selectable to take off the shopping cart and trying to finish the order yields "music box is out of stock, cannot complete order. please remove it and then try again."

/sarcasticon Awesome job SE at making a BONUS in a preorder prevent you from preordering, considering it just went on sale for 19.99 which is lower than the NOT ultimate collection, which, I may add, will probably be just 1 code to register everything er go I wouldn't be able to use it on my existing account. Even more awesome that apparently a digital download for a music box is out of stock. Thanks also for never being vague when you get emailed and being so quick to fix things. /sarcasticoff

[Byrth]

Haha, nice to see that their customer service is consistent. I'll probably just order it through Amazon so I can avoid dealing with SE.

[Infidi]

About the one code to register everything, I thought it just adds the ones your missing from your account?

[Rubeus]

About the one code to register everything, I thought it just adds the ones your missing from your account?

I had a spare account when I moved in with a roommate that wanted to play, and the code from the Abyssea boxset wouldn't work on that account; he ended up having to just use that box-set account and create a whole new character for himself instead of just using my mule (which didn't have any of the abysseas, hence the box set idea was to save money buying all 3 expansions individually and time spent leveling). I imagine this will work the same way; all the collection disks have so far.

edit: Also, the abyssea boxset was PC non-steam trying to use the 1 code on another PC non-steam both-NA-coded accounts. Hope this helps. I've gone through a handful of buying-a-friend-a-copy-of-the-game scenarios and even back when it was the TOAU boxset, which came with individual codes to register each expansion, you STILL couldn't use a code from that boxset on any other old account. I speak from experience. But then again, who knows, it's SE. Unless they come right out and say it though, I'd put my money on "buy just the expansion, the shirt isn't worth it." After all, they still haven't even put a DLC preorder up for the poor EU community or the steam community, and just look at what a lot of us who DID preorder it from the SE site are going through.

[Infidi]

That is wierd. O.o I swear I remembered using the ultimate collection, the one just before Abyssea edition, to get the last add on and wings of the goddess added to my account. Cause it was 10USD on sale, same price as last add on through Playonline, lol. I don't know for sure though was forever ago. Was PC version and only had one code.

[Rubeus]

SE finally emailed me back. And this is what they said: "We apologize, while the product you are referring to is indeed a SQUARE ENIX product, the store that handles those issues has their own support system in place to assist with these types of problems."

so basically, "it's somebody else's problem."

[Infidi]

Had to work early so missed the stream. Anyone know if it was recorded? :(

[Byrth]

Yeah, it was! (http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/114847-The-Sacred-City-of-Adoulin?p=5642617&viewfull=1#post5642617)

[Infidi]

Yay, Ty Ty. :D

[Wystan]

Quote Originally Posted by Cruentus View Post
I don't appreciate being ignored...


You came to the wrong forums if that was something you wanted to avoid.

QFT The english forums are total BS

[Kincard]

I really enjoyed the stream by the community team, while none of the information was stuff I didn't already know, it just felt a lot better put-together than the dev team's streams which had a whole lot of standing around and then taking forever to do anything. Also feels a lot less impersonal when there's an actual guy narrating the game to you. When I watch the JP streams and have to read them typing everything out I can't help but think of Matsui and co. as soulless game-creating machines that wants us to pay them for more suffering. Oh, wait.

And yeah, I think I'll be getting the expansion off Amazon as well.

[SpankWustler]

There wasn't a lot in the Community Bros' stream that I hadn't already seen or heard about, but the presentation was great. My only disappointment is that the lone Mr. Drippy didn't get a chance to inflict horrible status ailments on anybody before a GM command ended his life; he must have died feeling very unfulfilled.

I pre-ordered from Amazon without even thinking about SE's store as an option. I view anything offered in the SE store as bait to lure people into the rusty trap that is their customer service department.

[Cair]

The trailer that was uploaded a week ago to the FINALFANTASYXI youtube channel and linked on the Adoulin official website still exists exclusively in Japanese. >_>

[Calatilla]

I'm sure with the update to the Seekers of Adoulin site, you guys are getting anxious for the expansion, especially now that you now a bit more about the mysterious geomancer job. :)

Hard to get excited about it when I can't even pre-order it yet. 5 days to go and still no word on EU pre-orders.

[Waldrich]

Square Enix is the best ever drama creator company!

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

No it's not!

[Horadrim]

Square Enix is the best ever drama creator company!

Square Enix: We Know Drama.

[Cruentus]

So, I got an email with a promo code to get the Seekers of Adoulin soundtrack. The site, however, says it's an invalid code. And I still don't know what to do about my order.

At this rate, I may quit Final Fantasy XI entirely. This is fucking ridiculous.

[Godofgods]

Top o’ the morning to everyone!

In case you haven’t checked topics today, we just posted the next installment of our series to deepen everyone’s knowledge of the new mysterious city of Adoulin.

The third volume, “The Sacred City of Adoulin (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9905/detail.html),” sheds insight on the history and establishment of the city, as well as some interesting demographics.

Definitely take a moment to read it over when you have some time!

Just a little over a month to go until everyone can embark on a brand new adventure! :)


Previous volumes:

Volume 1: The Unfurling Tales of the Mystical Waypoints (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9730/detail.html)

Volume 2: A Farewell to Cookies and a Greeting to Arms (http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/9851/detail.html)





Population
Humes: 35%
Mithra: 25%
Elvaan: 15%
San d'Orian Elvaans: 10%
Ouschrahd Galka: 10%
Other: 5%


Taru haters!!




No! I promise it’s not like that! (And I am speaking as a Tarutaru myself!)

Lore-wise there really aren’t that many Tarutarus who adventure out beyond the green and safe Sarutabarta region (though I suppose a Tarutaru at level 1 is not very safe from gigantic crawlers and Yagudos who roam these areas). Of course there are some super-Tarus who possess higher than normal abilities though! I’m sure you can name a handful. However, due to this we’ve placed the Tarutarus who reside in Adoulin into the 5% “Other” group. I assure you though that walking around the town you will still encounter a good deal of Tarutaru NPCs, and even meet some distinguished ones while adventuring.


I call bull on that! <<Lie>>

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/NecroticGod/FFXI/Taru/Soni-Muni_01_zpsf5c826cb-1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/NecroticGod/FFXI/Taru/Soni-Muni_02_zps698e3a91-1.jpg