Twitter Stream with updates from Japan

[RAIST]

http://twitter.com/TheTokyoPost/japan-earthquake-coverage

A couple of recent tweets of import:


Electricity restored at Fukushima reactor No. 2
36 minutes ago


Rain may force Tepco to cut power
23 minutes ago

[Xeth]

Rain may force Tepco to cut power (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110321a6.html)


Although scheduled weekend power outages were averted, rain may cause some in the Kanto region to spend a few hours of Monday's national holiday without electricity, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday.

Tepco Executive Vice President Takashi Fujimoto said there would be no blackouts Monday morning, but that there might be cuts in the afternoon. "There is a chance that demand for power may rise (Monday afternoon)," Fujimoto said, adding that the company will decide by noon whether to go ahead with blackouts.

Tepco projected that supply will match demand at 34 million kw between the peak time of 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Monday, when rain is expected to increase the use of electrical appliances.

Tepco said it received about 7,200 calls Sunday from customers asking about the outages, with some complaining that their power was cut twice a day last week.

Rolling blackouts will start as scheduled between Tuesday and Friday, he said.

Meanwhile, Tepco said it is not planning to add Chiyoda, Chuo and Minato wards to the list of blackout areas in the capital because those central districts are home to key government offices and other important facilities.

[Haglaz]

Requesting a mod to lock this thread, to avoid it being cluttered by trollers, and @sshats.

Also, heres a good site from the TEPCO power company to keep a watch on: http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

[Alhanelem]

If they lock the thread it will just drop off the front page and no one will see it.

Preepmtively locking threads because you THINK an "@sshat" will post in them is a bad idea, as well.

All that aside, it's good to find some actually useful resources for information. Though with the situation @ the nuke plant appearing to be improving, I'm more concerned about the 400k people displaced by the tsunami.

[Haglaz]

maybe i was thinking more of a sticky, then?

[RAIST]

02.27 At a press conference with the Ministry of Defence, it was revealed that continued readings taken by helicopter above units 1-6 showed surface temperatures to be below 100 degrees. This is important data that reinforces the possibility that water is landing in the spent fuel pools and cooling the reactors. Unit 1 = 58C, unit 2= 35C, unit 3 = 62C, unit 4 = 42C, unit 5 = 24C and unit 6 =25C. 100 degrees C is the boiling point of water, so temperatures above this are dangerous because it means the water will evaporate and increase the risk of dry fuel rods – a dire situation that would release a lot of radiation.


EDIT: Thread title changed to reflect fact that others are adding updates from other sources as well. Thanks for the contributions guys!

[RAIST]

01.10 TEPCO have succeeded in connecting a new external power cable to units 1 and 2. They will undergo inspection today (20th) to check the pump and valves in order to ensure they function. TEPCO is also aiming to restore power to units 3-6 after March 20th. They are calling it their ‘trump card’ in the battle to cool the troubled reactors. However, it is still unknown whether or not the cooling systems can be restored due to the damage they have sustained from the seawater. NISA has said that after restoring power, work will first begin on the meters and gauges, followed by the reactor cooling system and finally the spent fuel pool cooling system.

not progressing as quickly as we had originally hoped, but progress is progress

[Ilax]

What all this have to do with FFXI? Why MOD keep this thread open, not even related with FFXI, plus your Twitter site is so wrong, last night you came in forum saying how they had 19,000 dead when it was say in every news that was 7,000 and 12k missing. I am sorry but can we get ride of false info and get back on FFXI subject?... As much as SE is in japan, i doubt TEPCO have anything to do with SE plus there already multiple thread talking about it.

[Haglaz]

Ilax, from what I figure, this thread is more or less an amalgamation of the issues going on in Japan at the moment. And from NHK news, the 'suspected' dead and/or missing count is approxametly 18-20K. Now being that the missing have not been found in a few more days, and they don't get water...their going to possibly die from dehidration and exposer. TEPCO supplies Tokyo with power (along with 3 other Nuclear reactors), and SE's headquarters are in Tokyo.

[Xeth]

What all this have to do with FFXI? Why MOD keep this thread open, not even related with FFXI, plus your Twitter site is so wrong, last night you came in forum saying how they had 19,000 dead when it was say in every news that was 7,000 and 12k missing. I am sorry but can we get ride of false info and get back on FFXI subject?... As much as SE is in japan, i doubt TEPCO have anything to do with SE plus there already multiple thread talking about it.

It has topped near 18,000 to 20,000. You're a few days too late.

[annewandering]

The game servers etc run on electricity. Of course its related to FFXI. Obviously a number of us are interested so whats the problem?

[Xeth]

The game servers etc run on electricity. Of course its related to FFXI. Obviously a number of us are interested so whats the problem?

It's subtle trolling and has been reported.

EDIT: It's the first person in the category of "trolling" Haglaz predicted.

[Ilax]

Ilax, from what I figure, this thread is more or less an amalgamation of the issues going on in Japan at the moment. And from NHK news, the 'suspected' dead and/or missing count is approxametly 18-20K. Now being that the missing have not been found in a few more days, and they don't get water...their going to possibly die from dehidration and exposer. TEPCO supplies Tokyo with power (along with 3 other Nuclear reactors), and SE's headquarters are in Tokyo.

Still have nothing to do with the game, can call me whatever you wan about it, i doubt SE open this forum on this purpose. Just getting tire to all the Mr.Jowbloe to talk about it with false info or non-accurate one. I think we already read news enough to have to read it again on SE forum.

I can understand SE is in middle of crisis, but i doubt it have anything helpful for the game, and as i stated is ok to have a thread talking about it, but multiple thread flooding forum with the same information is in my opinion overacted and by far problematic more then useful.

[Ilax]

It has topped near 18,000 to 20,000. You're a few days too late.

If you add all missing as DEAD ya.... Thanks to be so positive for Japan dude. Even if it might be that in the end, is silly thinking that way.

[Xeth]

If you add all missing as DEAD ya.... Thanks to be so positive for Japan dude. Even if it might be that in the end, is silly thinking that way.

I never said dead, I said it's 18,000 to 20,000, that's all I said, which includes dead and missing. From the way you type, I realize English isn't your first language, so I'm a little more lenient.

[Ilax]

I never said dead, I said it's 18,000 to 20,000, that's all I said, which includes dead and missing. From the way you type, I realize English isn't your first language, so I'm a little more lenient.

Seriously keep my first language out of this.. There many more topic we could talk, like food poisoning by radiation they detected, should we do another thread about it?

I mean give me a break, you seem to just wan avoid my complain, i don't care if there 1 thread talking about it , is just lately they multiply. I don't care to be honest, if is what MOD/SE/DEV wan i can create about 10 more thread about Japan crisis.

[viion]

Requesting a mod to lock this thread, to avoid it being cluttered by trollers, and @sshats.

Also, heres a good site from the TEPCO power company to keep a watch on: http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

thank you for site

[Xeth]

Seriously keep my first language out of this.. There many more topic we could talk, like food poisoning by radiation they detected, should we do another thread about it?

I mean give me a break, you seem to just wan avoid my complain, i don't care if there 1 thread talking about it , is just lately they multiply. I don't care to be honest, if is what MOD/SE/DEV wan i can create about 10 more thread about Japan subject.

I apologize if I sounded mean, cruel, or like a jerk, I did not mean to. The way you came across, to me, was just trolling on your first post. I am also not attacking your first language (I don't even know what it is..) and think everyone should learn more than one language in their life.

I did not make this thread, I contributed to it, and since RAIST seems to gather his information from directly Japanese media, I figured I would help out, as any foreign media, has either been completely wrong, biased, deeply opinionated, or just plain fear mongering.

Get your information from Japanese websites, they are usually more correct than any other media source.

This thread does have contribution to FFXI, as it alerts players of what is going on currently for FFXI, power wise. Yes, we know SE never actually lost power, but the blackouts may affect them, as they are not currently in the "excluded" wards.

[Alhanelem]

This matter is of importance to FFXI and it's players, because the more the power situation improves, the sooner services can be restored.

[Futan]

Seriously keep my first language out of this.. There many more topic we could talk, like food poisoning by radiation they detected, should we do another thread about it?

I mean give me a break, you seem to just wan avoid my complain, i don't care if there 1 thread talking about it , is just lately they multiply. I don't care to be honest, if is what MOD/SE/DEV wan i can create about 10 more thread about Japan crisis.

If you don't care, then avoid them. Problem solved.

[Haglaz]

Press Releases

Press Release (Mar 20,2011)
Plant Status of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (as of 6:00 PM Mar 20th)


Press Release (Mar 20, 2011)
Plant Status of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (as of 6:00 PM Mar 20th)

*new items are underlined

All 6 units of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station have been shut down.


Unit 1(Shut down)
- Reactor has been shut down. However, the explosive sound and white
smoke were confirmed after the big quake occurred at 3:36PM Mar 12th.
It was assumed to be hydrogen explosion.
- We have been injecting sea water into the reactor pressure vessel.

Unit 2(Shut down)
- Reactor has been shut down and the level of reactor coolant had dropped
and the reactor pressure had increased because the Reactor Core
Isolation Cooling System stopped. Measures were taken to lower
the pressure within the Reactor Containment Vessel and to inject
sea water into the Reactor while carefully confirming safety. The level
of reactor coolant and the pressure of the Reactor resumed.
- At approximately 6:00AM on March 15, 2011, an abnormal noise began
emanating from nearby Pressure Suppression Chamber and the pressure
within this chamber decreased.
- We completed receiving electricity from the external transmission
line up to the auxiliary transformer. We installed the power cable from
the transformer to the temporary power panel. At 3: 46 PM, March 20th,
we started energizing the load-side power panel.- We have been injecting sea water into the reactor pressure vessel.

Unit 3(Shut down)
- Reactor has been shut down. However, the explosive sound and white
smoke were confirmed at 11:01AM Mar 14th. It was assumed to be hydrogen
explosion.
- At 8:30AM on March 16th, fog like steam was confirmed arising from
the reactor building.
- At approximately 6:15AM on March 17th the pressure of the Suppression
Chamber has temporarily increased. We were preparing to implement
a measurement to reduce the pressure of the reactor containment vessel
(partial discharge of air containing radioactive material to outside)
in order to fully secure safety. However, at present, it is not a
situation to take a measure immediately to discharge air containing
radioactive material to outside now. We will continue to monitor
the status of the pressure of the reactor containment vessel.
- We are working on receiving external power supply to Units 3 and 4.
- We have been injecting sea water into the reactor pressure vessel.

Unit 4(outage due to regular inspection)
- Reactor has been shut down. However, at approximately 6AM on
March 15th. We have confirmed the explosive sound and the sustained
damage around the 5th floor rooftop area of the Nuclear Reactor
Building.
- On March 15th and 16th, we respectively confirmed the outbreak of fire
at the 4th floor of the northwestern part of the Nuclear Reactor
Building. We immediately reported this matter to the fire department
and the related authorities. TEPCO employees confirmed that each fire
had already died down by itself.
- At this moment, we do not consider any reactor coolant leakage inside
the reactor containment vessel happened.

Unit 5(outage due to regular inspection)
- Reactor has been shut down and the sufficient level of reactor coolant
to ensure safety is maintained.
- At 5 AM, March 19th, we started the Residual Heat Removal System Pump
(C ) in order to cool the spent fuel pool.
- At this moment, we do not consider any reactor coolant leakage inside
the reactor containment vessel happened.
- At 2:30 PM, March 20th, the reactor achieved reactor cold shutdown.
Unit 6(outage due to regular inspection)
- Reactor has been shut down and the sufficient level of reactor
coolant to ensure safety is maintained.
- We are working on receiving external power supply to Units 5 and 6.
We completed the repair work on the emergency diesel generator (A).
- At 10:14 pm, March 19, we started the Residual Heat Removal System Pump
(B ) of Unit 6 in order to cool the spent fuel pool.
- At this moment, we do not consider any reactor coolant leakage inside
the reactor containment vessel happened.

Cooling of spent fuel pools
- In Unit 3, water discharge by Self-Defense Force's helicopters was
conducted from 9:48 AM in the morning on March 17th. Also water
discharge by the riot police's high-pressure water cannon trucks and
Self-Defense Force's fire engines was conducted from 7PM on March 17th
and finished at 8:09PM.
- In Unit 3, water discharge by Self-Defense Force's fire engines and
US army's fire engines was conducted from 2 PM and completed a quarter
to 3 PM.
- After that, from 0:30 AM, Mar 19th, water discharge by Tokyo Fire
Department's Hyper Rescue was conducted to Unit 3 and completed
at 1:10 AM. At around 2:10PM, water discharge by Tokyo
Fire Department's Hyper Rescue to Unit 3 was conducted once again.
At approximately 3:40 am, they had finished water discharge.
- At approximately 8:21 am, March 20th, water discharge to Unit 4 by
fire engine has started with the cooperation of Self-Defense Forces.
- From 3: 05 PM to 5: 20 PM on March 20th, 40 tons of seawater was
injected into Unit 2 by TEPCO employees.- We are considering further water discharge at Unit 3 and others subject
to the conditions of spent fuel pools.

Casualty
- 2 workers of cooperative firm were injured at the occurrence of
the earthquake, and were transported to the hospital.
- 1 TEPCO employee who was not able to stand by his own holding left
chest with his hand, was transported to the hospital by an ambulance.
- 1 subcontract worker at the key earthquake-proof building was
unconscious and transported to the hospital by an ambulance.
- The radiation exposure of 1 TEPCO employee, who was working inside
the reactor building, exceeded 100mSv and he was transported to
the hospital.
- 2 TEPCO employees felt bad during their operation in the central
control rooms of Unit 1 and 2 while wearing full masks, and were
transferred to Fukushima Daini Power Station for consultation with
a medical advisor.
- 4 workers were injured and transported to the hospital after explosive
sound and white smoke were confirmed around the Unit 1.
- 11 workers were injured and transported to Fukushima Daini Nuclear
Power Station etc. after explosive sound and white smoke were confirmed
around the Unit 3.One of the workers was transported to the FUKUSHIMA
Medical University Hospital at 10:56AM
- Presence of 2 TEPCO employees at the site is not confirmed.

Others
- We measured radioactive materials (iodine etc.) inside of the nuclear
power station area (outdoor) by monitoring car and confirmed that
radioactive materials level is getting higher than ordinary level.
As listed below, we have determined that specific incidents stipulated
in article 15, clause 1 of Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear
Emergency Preparedness (Abnormal increase in radiation dose measured at
site boundary) have occurred.
· Determined at 4:17 PM Mar 12th (Around Monitoring Post 4 )
· Determined at 8:56 AM Mar 13th (Around Monitoring Post 4 )
· Determined at 2:15 PM Mar 13th (Around Monitoring Post 4 )
· Determined at 3:50 AM Mar 14th (Around Monitoring Post 6 )
· Determined at 4:15 AM Mar 14th (Around Monitoring Post 2 )
· Determined at 9:27 AM Mar 14th (Around Monitoring Post 3 )
· Determined at 9:37 PM Mar 14th (Around main entrance )
· Determined at 6:51 AM Mar 15th (Around main entrance )
· Determined at 8:11 AM Mar 15th (Around main entrance )
· Determined at 4:17 PM Mar 15th (Around main entrance )
· Determined at 11:05 PM Mar 15th (Around main entrance )
· Determined at 8:58 AM Mar 19th (Around MP5)
From now on, if the measured figure fluctuates and goes above and below
500 micro Sv/h, we deem that as the continuous same event and will not
regard that as a new specific incidents stipulated in article 15,
clause 1 of the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear Emergency
Preparedness (Abnormal increase in radiation dose measured at site
boundary) has occurred. In the interim, if we measure a manifestly
abnormal figure and it is evident that the event is not the continuous
same event, we will determine and notify.

- The national government has instructed evacuation for those local
residents within 20km radius of the periphery and evacuation to inside
for those residents from 20km to 30km radius of the periphery, because
it's possible that radioactive materials are discharged.
- At approximately 10AM on March 15th, we observed 400mSv/h at the inland
side of the Unit 3 reactor building and 100mSv/h at the inland side of
the Unit 4 reactor building.
- We checked the status of spent fuel in the common pool, and confirmed
that the water level secured. We are planning to conduct a detailed
inspection.
- We found no signs of abnormal situation for the casks by visual
observation during the patrol activity. A detailed inspection is
under preparation.
- At Units 5 and 6, in order to prevent hydrogen gas from accumulating
within the buildings, we have made three holes on the roof of
the reactor building for each unit
- We will continue to take all measures to ensure the safety and to
continue monitoring the surrounding environment around the Power

[Haglaz]

Please understand, that once you add sea water to these reactors, they are efectively ruined. I'm not too sure about all the sience behind it, but TEPCO will have to scrap or at best attempt to salvage the reactors they pumped sea water into.

Edit: This info was from the Rush Limbaugh week in review from earlier this morning, Sunday March 20th.

[Xeth]

Are you able to just underline the changes? Copy and paste didn't exactly translate good :P

[Wataruryu]

Ilax this thread has a lot to do with FFIX .The power shortage is whats keeping the servers down, and we as the players wanna keep informed of the situation; Seeing as that when the power is stable then the servers can come online (That answers your question on what this has to do with FFXI). BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY stable power and warmth to the people of Japan' we play with these people online everyday and have made connections ....friends with them and we as a community wanna know whats going on and keep each apprised of the situation. That is what FFXI is supposed to be about community and friendship. Your negative comments are very counter productive to those of us concerned for our friends and family there, yes I have family there and would ask politely for you to stop the negativity. thank you

[Alhanelem]

Please understand, that once you add sea water to these reactors, they are efectively ruined. That's not exactly true. To the best of my understanding, the only effect of this is because sea water isn't pure, it gets more radioactive than pure water because of the ions and minerals (e.g. salt) in it. The reactor itself doesn't care what it gets cooled by.

[annewandering]

Absolutely, Alhanelem. Any tidbits that turn up about the power situation is of interest to us because of its connection to the game.
As far as the food radiation poisoning, well maybe there is a relationship of that to the game but you are going to have to point it out to me which is probably why we havent had threads on it even though as humans we would be concerned for the Japanese people. (nice run on sentence huh!)
Now do not misunderstand. I am not saying we are not concerned about what is going on there because of the effect on the Japanese people. We are. On the whole anyway. That is not the topic of this forum. In that I agree with you, Ilax.
As far as language goes we see that English is not your first language. That means that we may not be in complete understanding of what you are saying and you may not be understanding us, completely, either. If that is so we will try harder to communicate accurately. Its not an insult.

[Ilax]

I apologize if I sounded mean, cruel, or like a jerk, I did not mean to. The way you came across, to me, was just trolling on your first post. I am also not attacking your first language (I don't even know what it is..) and think everyone should learn more than one language in their life.

I also apologize too, and no i did not mean to troll, is just the way you said it that sounded to me like you did trolling me:


It has topped near 18,000 to 20,000. You're a few days too late.

i mean specially when i say 7k dead and 12k missing (19k total), so ya i guess we just both got it wrong that all, and i apologize again for my bad reaction.


I did not make this thread, I contributed to it, and since RAIST seems to gather his information from directly Japanese media, I figured I would help out, as any foreign media, has either been completely wrong, biased, deeply opinionated, or just plain fear mongering.

Get your information from Japanese websites, they are usually more correct than any other media source.


I do the same, i mean everyone do the same, i have nothing against it.


This thread does have contribution to FFXI, as it alerts players of what is going on currently for FFXI, power wise. Yes, we know SE never actually lost power, but the blackouts may affect them, as they are not currently in the "excluded" wards.

Yes but as i say, there already multiple thread talking about it:

Twitter Stream with updates from Japan {you here}
Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake
Can we have an update on the situation.
Information Submission Request to Square Enix
Japan Tsunami Relief suggestion.
Next review date for servers, Tues 22nd JST
Power is being restored to cooling systems of the reactors
For those would like good explanation of the nuclear situation.
Situation and new's updates on the japan situation, SE's servers, etc.
Japan Before and After, had a friend in the relief effort for Japan send me this
Japan's Situation
Earthquakes in 3D!
Sites with updated information on the Japan Situation
Meltdown getting worrse.
Anyone feel the hit of tokyo's rolling blackouts yet?
Situation in Japan
Shut up about the servers.
Caught in the earthquake and/or tsunami zones? Check in and tell us you're okay here
Largest earthquake on record hits Japan
Japanese earthquake
Japanese earthquake and tsunami

Do we really need more?

[Xeth]

Please understand, that once you add sea water to these reactors, they are efectively ruined. I'm not too sure about all the sience behind it, but TEPCO will have to scrap or at best attempt to salvage the reactors they pumped sea water into.

Edit: This info was from the Rush Limbaugh week in review from earlier this morning, Sunday March 20th.

TEPCO is actually looking at burying the plant after the nuclear material is cleared and A.O.K.
They can't do this soon, it will take awhile before they can "en-tomb" it or "bury" it, but the plant itself, wont be operational; ever.

[annewandering]

Actually it was my understanding that it is NOT the sea water that destroying the reactor. Its adding Boron to it that messes up the reactor. The boron helps to stop the nuclear material from reacting by snatching the bits that are wandering around. lol. Ok its simplized but I dont always get the terms right but that is what essentially happens.

[Haglaz]

Yea Xeth, it's very sad to see how hard and long they've worked to make clean reliable power, only to have to bury it.

Fukushima Daiichi plant to be demolished

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano has suggested that the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant will be demolished.

Edano told a news conference on Sunday that the government cannot make decisive statements without going through the required procedures.

He added that it is not clear if the plant can resume operations, given the state of the reactors.

Sunday, March 20, 2011 17:42 +0900 (JST)


here's a link to the page: http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/politics.html

[annewandering]

Haglaz, at this point it is hard to see how the plants can be saved. Even if they were would the Japanese people trust them? Its probably better to take the steps to shut them down permanently and go forward.
There are lots of other plants out there already in use and more in plans for being built. It is not the same as shutting down their entire nuclear reactor system at all. Not even close.

[Haglaz]

from what i get, only the diiachi plant has to be buried. the others around the country shut down with the automatic fail safe systems, and are in good shape.

[Ilax]

Ilax this thread has a lot to do with FFIX .The power shortage is whats keeping the servers down, and we as the players wanna keep informed of the situation; Seeing as that when the power is stable then the servers can come online (That answers your question on what this has to do with FFXI). BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY stable power and warmth to the people of Japan' we play with these people online everyday and have made connections ....friends with them and we as a community wanna know whats going on and keep each apprised of the situation. That is what FFXI is supposed to be about community and friendship. Your negative comments are very counter productive to those of us concerned for our friends and family there, yes I have family there and would ask politely for you to stop the negativity. thank you

As much i agree, i think you avoiding my main concern about it, this is a new thread that promote "http://twitter.com/TheTokyoPost/japa...quake-coverage", that could been done in one of the current 20 thread, there no point to create a new thread for this, not at all.

Saying i am wrong on that is like telling me it would be acceptable i post a thread that promote CNN, CBS, RDI, LCN and so on.

[Jhanaka]

Hi Folks!

This is an interesting thread and we will ask that you try to keep the comments on topic. If you do not agree with threads posted, you are free to report them to the Moderators and we will review the contents. An open debate regarding the validity of the thread will only cause off topic conversation. Please keep this in mind.

Thank you,

-Senior Game Master Jhanaka

[RAIST]

@Ilax
This thread was put up simply so we have a centralized place to share information on the current situation in Japan. I'm sorry if the title of the thread was not clear for some. I apologize for not deleting my previous thread which I started with the same purpose several days ago, as it has fallen several pages behind. It has now been deleted as that information is now superseded by information in more recent threads. My other thread (as noted in it's title, and as stated in the initial post) was put up as a place for people to find links to sites where they can gather updated information on the situation in Japan. I have not deleted that thread as it is still relevant and is in my signature so people can still link to it from there if they are still seeking information sources.

I'm sorry if you do not feel this is releveant to the current status of SE and (by proxy the state of FFXI). But many in this community do, and expressed their appreciation for it. Therefore I have been trying to keep at least one thread alive where they can continue to come to get updates without having to wade through tons of reports on other situations like Libya when they JUST want information on Japan. Many of the news media have been providing delayed information and much of that has been exagerrated. I have been putting forth a conserted effort to gather information from multiple sites and trying to limit the relaying of information that has been reported from sources closest to the situation and appears most credible. A good example is the 19,000 missing and dead estimate you questioned--that figure came directly from the Police Agency, not from news reporters tallied figures--from the Police agency that has been tracking reports from the teams actually surveying the areas.

If you are not interested in this information, you do not need to read the thread. If you have nothing informative about the situation to contribute, please, out of respect to those who are subscribing to this thread specifically for informative posts, refrain from posting it in THIS thread--feel free to post it in others, just not this one.

This will be my one and only attempt to moderate the traffic in this thread. If the trolling gets out of hand, I will delete the thread.

Thank you everyone for your concern for Japan and it's people, and all your contributions to getting information out thus far, and I look forward to news of better things to come.

Raist

[Wataruryu]

Ilax I wasn't avoiding your main concern, I made a simple response to your first posting which was "what does this have to to do with FFXI", and honestly why does it matter that there are multiple post for information. As some of the those threads are pushed back you would have to actively go looking for them, and some may not want to waste time digging for the information (we've been doing it since the incident happened) as you have done I see up in a previous post. I think it is nice that someone is trying to keep information to the front of the forums; and info directly from the source seeing as our media here isn't keep us updated. The little they do release is blown out of proportion with words like "the worst incident Chernobyl" instead of giving us facts. In no where in my post did I use the words that you where wrong in having your opinion. I did say that they where negative and counter productive to those of us concerned. In the end of it all we are not hurting you on a personal level for wanting know whats going on, so how is complaining about multiply treads productive? It only service to upset you unnecessarily and those of the community. thanks

[annewandering]

I keep having to go back and search threads I cant find any more for information. It would be lovely to have it in one place.
Here are a few questions I have.
Is or is not SE affected directly by rolling blackouts? By directly I mean is their power shut off by them.
Are SE servers in one place or in several places? Do they all have to be up for the game to be up? What I am getting at is if servers for interdepartment memos etc are not up can the game go up?
As a side question I am wondering how many servers SE actually has in Japan. This has to do with a bit outdated topic of moving or duplicating servers. This subject has come up on other forums than this one so I would like to know more about them. Information on the web seems to be more about company goals etc not actual physical property other than buildings.

[Haglaz]

I keep having to go back and search threads I cant find any more for information. It would be lovely to have it in one place.
Here are a few questions I have.
Is or is not SE affected directly by rolling blackouts? By directly I mean is their power shut off by them.
Are SE servers in one place or in several places? Do they all have to be up for the game to be up? What I am getting at is if servers for interdepartment memos etc are not up can the game go up?
As a side question I am wondering how many servers SE actually has in Japan. This has to do with a bit outdated topic of moving or duplicating servers. This subject has come up on other forums than this one so I would like to know more about them. Information on the web seems to be more about company goals etc not actual physical property other than buildings.

1. yes their affected.
2. yes, the servers are in one place, no other locations hold your toon.
3. yes, the servers and internet infrastructure needs to be operational to play.
4. this site, and the FFXI, XIV, SE sites are at other locations, and not affected. Hance, we're all here.

From what i understand, each zone has a physical server or the like. you do the math. :)

[NightDagger]

Good thread I keep checking back often for more updates (I do not use twitter or facebook).

Just a quick note:

Please do not let this thread stay of topic. It would be nice to have an actual thread to get updates from & not people arguing. This is not directed at anyone.

Thank you all again for your updates :-)

[RAIST]

I tried to pull up the blackout plan the other day and was having trouble finding the PDF's again. Someone posted that their ward is not receiving blackouts, which makes sense if you were to pull up a map of the area around their building. It is a highly commercialized area, and there is both a Hospital and Police station within a coupl blocks of their building. There are several more hospitals close by as well--3 within just a few miles of their building, as well as about 5 or 6 university campuses. A big Metropolitan Goverment Office building is within about 5 blocks or so as well, and I heard it is a big corridor for their mass transit system nearby as well.

In short, that section of the grid is under heavy strain normally, and SE is in a 23 story building that houses 4 divisions of their entire operation (including the Taito Corporation division). So it kind of stands to reason that they would want to do their part to conserve power. Also, as mentioned in the Producer's Letter in the FFXIV forum (may have been on Lodestone, not sure), they have a large number of international employees. A lot of employees left the area due to concerns expressed by their respective counselates as well as friends/family, so they also quickly found themselves short staffed.

The exact particulars of their server infrastructure is unkown, but the general concept is at least 1 server per world (24, +1 test server), in addition to 4 DNS servers, a 2 server storage rack housing their internal message services as well as at least one data storage rack to house their data, and additional servers for the POL service, Lobby servers, and the data storage units for the FFXI characters themselves. It is safe to assume it could be 30, as many as 40 servers in addition to several racks of disk arrays for data storage.

Raist

[Alhanelem]

(I do not use twitter or facebook).Just so you know, you do not have to sign up for twitter to see the feeds. You can visit their twitter feed and read it without being a member of the site.


but the general concept is at least 1 server per worldEach world consists of several interconnected server nodes. One box cannot handle all the people connected to an MMO simultaneously.

[annewandering]

Its not a sin to join those groups though. Just dont tell your friends and family. ^^

[NightDagger]

Just so you know, you do not have to sign up for twitter to see the feeds. You can visit their twitter feed and read it without being a member of the site.

ohh never knew that. Thanks man I will definitely bookmark it and read it now ^^

[Miera]

I just got a hold of my friend from Japan who I've lost contact from three years ago...

He and he family are doing fine, thought you guys might not care, it's great news to hear for me nevertheless.

He's been saying, from what I can gather from his English is that Japan is in pure hell (Of course) and that there is danger everywhere and it's scary.

Part of his message reads:
"I'm fine thanks but Japan is no good :( happened I'm very sad :( my friends and family is fine. ;D take care everyday every night somewhere danger :( "

[Gaspee]

I just got a hold of my friend from Japan who I've lost contact from three years ago...

He and he family are doing fine, thought you guys might not care, it's great news to hear for me nevertheless.

He's been saying, from what I can gather from his English is that Japan is in pure hell (Of course) and that there is danger everywhere and it's scary.

Part of his message reads:
"I'm fine thanks but Japan is no good :( happened I'm very sad :( my friends and family is fine. ;D take care everyday every night somewhere danger :( "

Glad to hear he is fine. :)

[RAIST]

two sites that monitor sensors showing a big spike in Gamma radiation in areas south of Fukushima--Ibaraki prefect area showing it doubling in the last 12-24 hours. Waiting to see some new news feeds on just what is going on at the reactors....

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=4870
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.houshasen-pref-ibaraki.jp/present/result01.html
http://japanstatus.org/

Just got daughter from her mothers... gotta do dinner and all... if anyone gets any inf. please share. Thanks, Raist

[RAIST]

Electricity restored to the power center of No.2 Reactor.

CORRECTION!TEPCO to lay a cable to Rea3 til4pmJST, aftr being sprayd by Police/SDF ovrnight. R4 sprayg STARTD 6.37am, LATER wrk on cableJIJI

Appears to be some conflicting details bouncing about on just what they are doing...guess we'll have to wait for next TEPCO conference for info--NHK keeps looping old info and breaking in occasionally with blurbs, getting harder to get much accurate info.--Libya is consuming the news cycles atm.

Raist

[RAIST]

TEPCO said no planned power outage today.
23 minutes ago reply

Encouraging, I guess....although, this could change for the next 24 hours....

Edit: technicians "optimistic" about getting power to control boards for 3 and 4 tomorrow

[annewandering]

Raist, since you have done so much research on this do you think that any of those reactors will ever function again?

[Arconis]

I don't see any of the ones they had to use Seawater to cool being usable again. Seawater will have caused way to much corrision, they may beable to salvage some stuff but I imagine most of it is scrap now

[RAIST]

5 & 6 most likely as they were offline when everything hit, possibly 2 if things were contained in time perhaps... but they will all likely need a lot of work first. Who knows when they'll be able to get in there and conduct the assessments to determine just where to go after they achieve containment.

[RAIST]

Tepco was just talking about a concrete sprayer... whatever they use that on, you can pretty much write that off I guess.

[annewandering]

I don't see any of the ones they had to use Seawater to cool being usable again. Seawater will have caused way to much corrision, they may beable to salvage some stuff but I imagine most of it is scrap now

It is boron added to sea water not the sea water that is the problem. At least that is my understanding.

"Tepco was just talking about a concrete sprayer... whatever they use that on, you can pretty much write that off I guess." ....Raist

if they spray with concrete that has to be because the radiation makes working on that area unsafe.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The reactors themselves are are housed in 6 inch stainless steel. Sea water doesn't corrode that very easily.

[RAIST]

some issues with #2 systems... some shorted circuits, looking for parts. Gauges and what-not need need replacing in various locations.

They are close to getting power supply to 3 and 4 control centers, expect to have the lines ready by @4PM JP time so they can evaluate situation there provided guages are in tact, etc.

Also focussing on the Central Control Center as well.. but no expected timeline for restoration there yet.

[annewandering]

Wouldnt it be a miracle if some of them could be saved? I suspect if they can be its going to take a huge amount of repair even on the ones that were shut down before the tsunami hit.

[Arconis]

The one thing with nuclear plants is have to treat them like laboratory clean rooms can't have any contamination at all if areas are cracked or any possibly of contaminants they won't risk starting up

[Xeth]

Looking somewhat good. :)

TEPCO restarts LNG thermal plant near Tokyo (http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL3E7EL06720110321)


TOKYO, March 21 (Reuters) - Tokyo Electric Power Co on Monday restarted the 300 megawatt capacity No.2 liquefied natural gas unit at its Goi thermal plant east of Tokyo, a company spokesman said.

The restart, together with extra supply from other power companies, helped TEPCO to secure 35,500 MW electricity supply for Monday, up by 4,000 MW from Sunday and compared with an estimated peak demand on the day of 34,000 MW.

As a result, TEPCO has decided to cancel a rolling blackount in some parts of its service areas this afternoon, the official said. It was originally set to start at 3 p.m. (0600 GMT) on Monday.

[RAIST]

wow.. that is very disheartening after all the efferts they will go through to contain the threat, that they may wind up just burying it in the end. Good thing they still use coal over there too I guess.

NHK looping recorded sessions again...pushing midnight here, and I have to get to bed. Got the Taru this week so have to keepa "normal" schedule.

Hang in there Japan, our thoughts are with you.

[annewandering]

http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/13/fukushima-simple-explanation/

This has an extremely interesting discussion of the reactors. The first part discusses how the reactors work. The second part talks about what happened to the reactors and what was done.
It is without all the media hype so you all might find it very interesting and useful.

http://bravenewclimate.com/ The home page has some interesting bits as well. Truthfully more than bits. Very interesting site.

[annewandering]

bumping in case anyone has new information. ^^

[Tsukino_Kaji]

bumping in case anyone has new information. ^^It's about the time Riast goes to sleep, so we'll all have to wait until tomorrow.

Raist.

[annewandering]

Still it will be easier for him to find in the morning! And maybe someone else has read something :D

[Arconis]

a lot less info comeing out of Japan now on Tepco mostly its News about Libia now its taken over

[Ibiku]

I'm excited they are atleast making progress in preventing a total meltdown. Unfortunately the nuclear plant is lost for good, the sea water will corrode components that will not be replaceable. You have to remember that the sea water is being sprayed ON the reactor so small parts, components, and very sensitive equipment will see major corrosion that cant be reversed. And it has already been announced that once the situation is under control the plant will be decommissioned permanently. I think its the best decision at this time due to the major cost of repairing the plant and the massive compromise the structure has undergone. From the looks of other incidents that have happened with nuclear plants they are a "Use while you can." Facility because if there is even the slightest compromise in the integrity of the core or the protective casing the plant is pretty much written off as unusable.

[Alhanelem]

Unfortunately the nuclear plant is lost for good, the sea water will corrode components that will not be replaceable.The sea water is not the problem. The vessel is mostly made of concrete, not anything that corrodes. It's the boron that's the problem.

Reactors 5 and 6 might operate again as they were already shut down when the disaster struck. (They also said they MIGHT have to decommission the entire plant; reactor 1+2 were already slated to be decomissioned anyway)

[NightDagger]

Yeah they will have to bury it in concrete eventually, but getting everything controlled is first step. On a good note they do have 2 new plants that were planned to be opened at the end of April so that will even things out when they bury them.

I wonder how long till they fire up the rest of the coal plants. still puzzles me as to why we do not hear more about them..

[annewandering]

Coal plants are boring compared to toxic nuclear radiation contaminating the earth for unknown millennia. The coal plants that were shut down are coming back on line. I think there were hmm about 11 shut down. All in all things are looking up for power in Japan.
I dont know whether it means that the game will be up soon but there is good progress being made for the power grid. The news that two reactors were due to come on line in April is very good timing. Hope that holds to schedule if not early.

[Nataskiller]

mmmm japan is holding in there :D hope they get the situation of the nuclear plants figured out asap :D

[RAIST]

Manage to scrape up a few tweets about things in general. Business trying to resume operations, but with some difficulties:

Many buses are running between Sendai & Yamagata. From YMGT, other buses are running to Tokyo, Niigata, etc

Asahi: JR Freight Co increasing no. of gas/kerosene tankcar runs to Iwate from 3/23. Equiv to 20% normal delivery.

Amid, crisis Tokyo's Shangri-La hotel closes "temporarily": http://on.wsj.com/fDE3ne (Perhaps it will reopen at less than $863 a night...)

It is now possible to drive from Tokyo to Sendai, albeit slowly. Exprsswy from Urawa to Yaita. From there, take Highway 4.

Handy table showing all blockout groups for tomorrow.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://setsuden.yahoo.co.jp/(unfortunately, the graphic isn't translated, but they have it broken down in charts that did)

Skimming over the schedule, I see Chiba Prefect which is close to SE's building, and I saw Hamura city mentioned--so sections of SE's prefect may be going down, but possibly not their particular ward.

A LOT of chatter went on about the gray and white smoke they saw coming out of #2 and #3 last night...of course, TEPCO dind't say much in their press release... imagine that:

Press Release (Mar 21,2011)
Smoke from the Southeast Side of the Rooftop of the Unit 3 Building in Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station

At around 3:55 PM on March 21st, an employee of TEPCO confirmed light
gray smoke arising from the southeast side of the rooftop of the Unit
3 building, and reported the situation to a fire station at 4:21 PM.

The parameters of reactor pressure vessel and reactor containment
vessel of Unit 3, and monitored environmental data around the Nuclear
Power Station remains at the same level. However, employees working
around Unit 3 evacuated to a safe location.
It is observed the smoke has been decreasing.

TEPCO continues to take all measures to restore the safety and security
of the site and are monitoring the site's immediate surroundings.

[RAIST]

TEPCO says it has begun pulling 150MW from Hokkaido Electric Power to help the supply shortage in East Japan
8 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Shindo 3 quake: Ibaraki
It was shallow (10km depth) M4.6 quake

METI_JPN Radioactivity level by area (Mar. 21) is uploaded
http://www.meti.go.jp/english/electricity_supply/pdf/110321_1030_Factsheet.pdf(glanced at it--may be a good read. Appears to have info on other plants in the region)


24 hours without a noticeable aftershock in Tokyo (>5.0). Life is getting back to normal.

[Xeth]

With TEPCO starting up the LNG stations yesterday, and pulling 150MW from Hokkaido Electric Power, it would be safe to say that Tokyo has sufficient power now, as they only need 34,000 at peak, before summer, then it's 36,500. But they are currently drawing 35,500 (+150 according to the Tweet), so I would assume it's all good... but who knows.

[RAIST]

japantimes Smoke seen rising up from building of No. 3 reactor of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant (Kyodo)

TEPCO To Resume Rolling Blackouts Except In Early Morning

meh... two steps forward, one step back....

[RAIST]

Tohoku EPCO keeps on powering households; 22,000 more since yesterday; 220k left

And that's about it for today; Summing up on FNPP1 : Good that there is continuous progress, but situation remains pretty much unstable

Kind of an odd blurb that I just heard in one news reel. Korean automaker (GM division??!) stated no shortage of supply of JP parts as of yet, but are concerned that shortage may soon come and prompt suspended production in international markets.

[NightDagger]

My mother in-law went into work last night (Toyota Manufacturing in Woodstock, Ontario) & was told that production at the Japan plant will be resuming today. They also cut their power down same day as SE & on the 22nd will be resuming production again. So this is a good sign as to how their power is doing anyways.

Have also read that other manufacturing plants are also returning to work on the 22nd.

[RAIST]

yeah... strarting to see more and more mentions of other companies cranking things up as well. Nissan and Sony getting things going again too, hope to be making cars before week's end:

http://gantdaily.com/2011/03/21/nissan-sony-resume-production-in-japan/

[Ibiku]

I vote Raist to be a forum moderator cause hes doing an amazing job of keeping the masses informed. Better then our own media. RAIST have my babies =D

[Komori]

Raist should have all female player's babies <3

[Ibiku]

Komori you are genius! I say we seek him out and DEATH BY SNU SNU! =D

[RAIST]

/blush

heheh.. SNU SNU!!! Man, I miss Futurama.

Anyway.. a little recap from TEPCO's press release... was hoping for a press conference, but nothing yet:



Press Release (Mar 21,2011)
Plant Status of Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station (as of 9:00 pm March 21st)


[No New Developments since 6:00 pm, 21st March]

Unit Status
1 · Reactor cold shutdown, stable water level, offsite power is
available.
· No cooling water is leaked to the reactor containment vessel.
· Maintain average water temperature at 100°C in the pressure
restraint.
2 · Reactor cold shutdown, stable water level, offsite power is
available.
· No cooling water is leaked to the reactor containment vessel.
· Maintain average water temperature at 100°C in the pressure
restraint.
3 · Reactor cold shutdown, stable water level, offsite power is
available.
· No cooling water is leaked to the reactor containment vessel.
· Maintain average water temperature at 100°C in the pressure
restraint.
4 · Reactor cold shutdown, stable water level, offsite power is
available.
· No cooling water is leaked to the reactor containment vessel.
· Maintain average water temperature at 100°C in the pressure
restraint.

other N.A.

[The next information in regard to the plant is planned to be released
at 9:00 am, 22nd March.]

Guess they'll get better containment going once their replacement parts come in....which prompts a hearty WTF??!! They had to ORDER replacement parts...dind't have them on hand anywhere nearby.... DOH!!

[jeffanddane]

Bump And also I vote for Raist being a site moderator seems hes doing a better job keeping people updated on whats going on.

[Relinaa]

I`d vote too ^^

[annewandering]

I think Raist already has a good job, not that I know him but he said something indirectly about it. His employer ought to give him a big pay raise because he is valuable 'property'.
SE would be smart to try to lure him away.

[RAIST]

Baseball-Loving Japan Delays Its First Pitch, but Not Without Debate http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/world/asia/21nippon.html?_r=1&src=tptw

Couldn't resist sharing this...looks like FFXI fans aren't the only addicts out there......

[jeffanddane]

SE would be smart to lure him away. Really smart. lol

[RAIST]

Kyodo: Decision to change mandatory decontamination level based on advice from domestic nuclear experts & IAEA.

Japan gov't task force loosens level for mandatory decontamination. Until now 6,000cpm. New reg: 100,000cpm.

Mixed feelings about this move. Been seeing them shift their exposure limits a lot the last couple of days. Afraid it may make people a bit uneasy in the world markets--Some Spinach was found with like 20x the limit of contamination at one farm. Ibaraki prefect isn't going to be able to export squat as it is already....long term is gonna be rough. Some "experts" are already expecting it to be up to a 5 year recovery.

[NightDagger]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/world/asia/21nippon.html?_r=1&src=tptw

Couldn't resist sharing this...looks like FFXI fans aren't the only addicts out there......

LOL gonna be a riot on Friday when there is no baseball game.

[RAIST]

LOL gonna be a riot on Friday when there is no baseball game.
Yeah.. may be the first time we see them loose their cool during this crisis. Still amazed at how well they've handled themselves...wouldn't see it in the US.

Edit: BLAARGG! everytime I think I'm gonna get something new... winds up being recycled news. Guess it's going to be quiet on the news channels until the sun comes up over there. Time to run some errands I guess.

[Arconis]

Yeah.. may be the first time we see them loose their cool during this crisis. Still amazed at how well they've handled themselves...wouldn't see it in the US.

I have been really impressed with the way things are being handled by the people there so inspiring to see people come together like that in this day in age. Because of they way there handling it too has shown in how fast there actually recovering too. Your so right if same situation happened in US or Canada we would be fighting with each other trying to protect our interests not others. Hopefully rest of world has been watching situation in Japan and take away the type of cooperation there and maybe this world can be better place for it.

[Ibiku]

Japan has always been a country that support each other. Japan will rise from this recover and move on albeit this will take alot of time, money, and support but in the end they will be stronger then they are now. We as a nation should take their bravery, and unity and apply it to our own country.

[annewandering]

We are brave and unified when it counts. Dont take the bickering after the fact to mean we are divided as a country. Its just not true. I do admire how the japanese people have dealt with this mess. No doubt about it. They have done great.

[Haglaz]

○Implementation plan of rolling blackout on March 22 (Tue)
Considering today's electricity supply-demand and tomorrow's weather,
regional group and time periods for the planned blackout are as
follows.

Group 5 6:20-10:00
···Rolling blackout will not be implemented

Group 1 9:20-13:00
Group 2 12:20-16:00
Group 3 15:20-19:00
Group 4 18:20-22:00
···Rolling blackout will be implemented.

Group 5 13:50-17:30
Group 1 16:50-20:30
···The necessity of the rolling blackouts will
be judged depending on the supply-demand
balance and will be informed 2 hours before
the start of blackouts.


●The actual blackout period for each group is planned to be maximum
about 3 hours during the relevant scheduled time period.
●Starting and ending time of blackout periods may slightly differ.
●Depending on the supply-demand balance of the day, planned blackouts
may not be carried out. In case the electricity supply-demand balance
becomes tighter than expected, we will reconsider the rolling blackout
plan and inform you accordingly before we implement the revised plan.
●A blackout may occur in the adjacent areas where the planned blackouts
are carried out.

○Implementation plan of rolling blackouts from Wednesday, March 23 to
Monday, March 28
Please refer to the "exhibit" for detailed plan.
●The actual blackout period for each group is planned to be maximum
about 3 hours during the relevant scheduled time period.
●Starting and ending time of blackout periods will slightly differ
day by day.
●Depending on the supply-demand balance hereafter, planned blackouts
may not be carried out. Moreover, in case the electricity supply-demand
balance becomes tighter than expected, we will reconsider the rolling
blackout plan and inform you accordingly before we implement the revised
plan.
●A blackout may occur in the adjacent areas where the planned
blackouts are carried out.

[Others]
●In order to prevent fires, please make sure to switch off electric
appliances such as hair driers when you leaving home.
●Please carefully pay attention to the traffic at the crossings in
case the traffic lights are suddenly turned off.

[Improvement in implementing planned blackouts]
●In principle, we will implement the planned blackouts based on the
current manner. However, we do realize that there is room for
improvement. Therefore, we will continue to consider and improve
implementation manners from the customers' point of view.

‹Reference>
○Prediction of demand and supply on March 21
Estimated Demand 34,000 MW (18:00-19:00)
Supply Capacity 35,500 MW

○Prediction of demand and supply on March 22
Estimated Demand 37,000 MW (18:00-19:00)
Supply Capacity 35,500 MW

[annewandering]

so which group does SE fall into?

[Haglaz]

group 5 is where SE's headquarters are at.

[annewandering]

and this means that there might be, but probably not, blackouts where SE is. This is only for today?

[Haglaz]

at the bottom there is a schedual of the rolling blacks, in point to fact; they will be changing it to fit the weather and probable demand per day bais.

And no, SE's block is along with hospitals, police stations, etc. so those they can't really shutdown

[annewandering]

I am wondering if this prediction of usage includes business's getting back to business. It appears a number of major companies are getting back to work on 22nd. SE might be smart to sit back a day to see how that works out.

[RAIST]

figures... presser and info coming in when I have to go get in car line to pick up kids at school:



TEPCO conf again. Issue now is with sea radiation as TEPCO rprts rad in surrounding waters

japantimes JX oil refinery in Yokohama resumes output

japantimes China orders radiation checks on Japanese food

[Kam]

i reckon we wont get on 2day

[Alhanelem]

You reckon correctly, as the situation review won't be done until tomorrow

[Tsukino_Kaji]

You reckon correctly, as the situation review won't be done until tomorrowIt is tomorrow already. 4:43am.

[Fearforever]

its 4:44am in Japan right now, so hopefully by about 10am JST we should know more

[Tsukino_Kaji]

its 4:44am in Japan right now, so hopefully by about 10am JST we should know moreSound about right. Running on the assumption of starting work at 9 and then discussing the situation first.

[Ter]

Im guessing they might be waiting on some confirmation from the power company before they can make an informed decision so I wouldn't be too dissapointed if its quiet for a while. I think they might be cautious about starting back up if they can't guarentee they can stay up. Fingers crossed for a resumption of game-tastic grind-festive gobby bashing, but only if there is enough electricity to go around.

[annewandering]

Waiting with bated breath. Maybe I will go get pol up to first page! <twitch>

[RAIST]

Thanks Haglaz for the TEPCO release. PDF is here, has links to the group details and weekly schedule:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11032110-e.html

REALLY wish they would get going with all the supplemental power sources I keep hearing about so these things could STOP....

[Ter]

Sorry RAIST any idea which group SE falls into?

[RAIST]

they've started posting a graph of the actual power demand, looks like it's supposed to update periodically:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/forecast/html/index-e.html

[RAIST]

Sorry RAIST any idea which group SE falls into?
Hard to say with absolute certainty which block might affect SE, if at all. Tokyo shows up in blocks 2, 3, and 4. Think Hamura City is a bit north and west of roughly where SE is, and that's in block 3, and Chiba Prefect is kind of close to Tokyo too, and that prefect is split up on 1, 2, and 3. So, if I had to guess I would expect SE to be most affected by block 3, but it's just guessing without really knowing the area.

[RAIST]

power demands are increasing...approaching last year's figures and looks like they may not be able to meet the demand. A revised blackout schedule may be coming around noon JST.
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/forecast/html/index-e.html

May be some trouble in the electronics sector if this drags out too much longer:

Japan's earthquake has suspended 25 percent of the global production of silicon wafers, according to a new research report, perhaps impacting semiconductors.http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/Japan-Earthquake-Rattles-Chip-Production-Report-392458/

Banks are shutting down ATM's to try to conserve additional power...some may be back on after noon.

Train schedules being shuffled as well to try to compensate for demand...but it may cause trouble with rush hour. It's going to be tight as businesses are trying to get started back up and more people trying to use transit services for the first time in a week.

Municiple buildings being cleared to provide more shelter for evacuees. Room for 3-4000 more people expected to open today.

[Macrom]

Not really anything to get super excited about but it is progress

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/3263-FFXIV-Servers-have-been-switched-on

Also wanted to thank Raist and the others that contributed so much actual info and not mindless ranting and arguments.

[RAIST]

lol... I tried that too with a few of the FFXI servers I had logged in my PC's firewall earlier today...all I got hits on were the DNS servers though.

[annewandering]

so is this for sure different than what it was yesterday?

[RAIST]

just got some pings to go thorugh on one subnet on the POL side, but none in the other IP blocks I know about. They may be doing some testing or something...who knows.

Edit: by the names responding.. looks like just the messaging servers...20 active hosts found though...hmmm

[Thuggin]

Requesting a mod to lock this thread, to avoid it being cluttered by trollers, and @sshats.

Also, heres a good site from the TEPCO power company to keep a watch on: http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

Requesting you to find something better to do then troll. Troll!

[Haglaz]

lol

that was soo what?...12 pages ago?

[RAIST]

WOW... first time I actually looked up all the subnets that I've found registered to SE/POL.....122 active hosts found. Granted, a lot of those are likely multiple links to the same servers but still....

[RAIST]

Ibaraki gamma levels reduced to almost 1/2 since it's last peak almost 20 hours ago...still pushing just over 1k though, but getting there. Slowly working it's way back down towards it's levels prior to the venting session.

Some other regions also to the south showing significant reductions (20-30%) too for the most part, but some are still a bit on the high side (700-900).

[RAIST]

power usage from 7:00-8:00 JST looked to be pushing about 35MW...rolling blackout was eminent for the 9:00-22:00 block, waiting for graph to update.
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/forecast/html/index-e.html

[RAIST]

press conference expected at 10:30 JST for status updates... let's hope TEPCO has something USEFUL to say for a change...last few have been pretty uneventful.



DailyYomiuri Smoke continues to be seen from the Fukushima N-plant's No 2, 3 reactors, and it's not clear when/if water spraying will resume, TEPCO says.
2 minutes ago

[Haglaz]

heres the link to that press conference

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

[RAIST]

Even with scheduled blackout, power usage in the 9:00-10:00 range hit near 35/36MW--looks like they are going to have to continue them after all?

NISA press conference getting ready to start--they are passing out memos, should start soon.

[lilsweets]

heres the link to that press conference

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Awesome thank you.

[RAIST]

sea water testing had elevated levels of nuclides (cesium and others) exceeding acceptable limits close to the reactors so additional testing is in order.

3 reactors still need manual cooling efforts

Looking to use concrete sprayer to get water into reactor #4 as other vehicles are still focused on #3 and they may need to spray #1 some as well to suplement the internal cooling system.

power supply built to #2, but suspended efforts due to dark smoke coming out, automated systems not running yet. Waiting to assess state of systems before attempting to start.

Cable has been laid to #3 and #4, but no power to them yet.

#6 cooling still running on diesel generator, looking to connect it to electrical soon.


DailyYomiuri IAEA reports radiation levels 1,600 times higher than normal (161 microsieverts per hour) 20km from the Fukushima N-plant.

[Haglaz]

all in all, prety good news.

[Jenenibui]

I love you raist! Keep the updates rolling!

[Nodachi]

So are they going to turn the servers on tonight or what? It's bad enough they've already broken their responsibilities by not having a back up plan to keep FFXI running. But now they haven't even given us an update yet as promised. Come on SE. I need to play FFXI.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

So are they going to turn the servers on tonight or what? It's bad enough they've already broken their responsibilities by not having a back up plan to keep FFXI running. But now they haven't even given us an update yet as promised. Come on SE. I need to play FFXI.It's only 10:45am tuesday, give it a little more time. ^^

[Jenenibui]

Someone is addicted...

[RAIST]

it is only 10:45 in Japan... they need to scope out the situation... as noted earlier, even with the blackouts peak power during the rush hour nearly capped out the supply.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Someone is addicted...Is it me?



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[Haglaz]

IAEA: Positive developments seen in Japan's crisis

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Yukiya Amano, says he is starting to see positive developments in Japan's efforts to stabilize a crippled nuclear power plant.

Amano made the remark in an emergency IAEA board meeting in Vienna on Monday which opened with a silent prayer for victims from the massive quake and tsunami that hit northeastern Japan on March 11th.

He told the meeting that he and Prime Minister Naoto Kan agreed last week that Japan will speed up the supply of information about the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

Amano said that the situation at the plant remains very serious, but some positive developments have been seen.

Officials from Japan's nuclear safety agency later briefed a working-level meeting on how the crisis developed at the plant and their plan to restore cooling systems for reactors.

The IAEA has already sent an expert team to Japan to help. The organization plans to send more nuclear and radiation experts if Japan requests it.

Tuesday, March 22, 2011 08:10 +0900 (JST)

for those that didnt watch it.

[RAIST]

just scanned their IP's again ... POL named servers inactive, down to just 37 hosts responding. They may not have been happy with their tests if that is what was going on. /cry

[breau]

just scanned their IP's again ... POL named servers inactive, down to just 37 hosts responding. They may not have been happy with their tests if that is what was going on. /cry

oooh raist comfort handing over tissue
breau, alexander/bastok

[annewandering]

now that was on the ffxiv servers?

[RAIST]

now that was on the ffxiv servers?

all IP's in the 3 subnets that I know belong to SE, some are specific to FFXI and POL



DailyYomiuri TEPCO says the "smoke" coming from reactor 3 is actually steam and has judged it is safe for workers to return to the area.

[annewandering]

well dang. maybe they were just testing out. or even getting ready in case the word came down to fire the game up.
still dont have any official word though.

[RAIST]

yeah.. but it's nice to know that SOMETHING is going on over there...even if it's just testing network integrity. Think it's the lack of knowing what SE is doing that is driving everyone so batty....

[Unctgtg]

Just pinged the servers for ffxi and got all response

[annewandering]

Just pinged the servers for ffxi and got all response


all or none? your sentence confused me. ^^

[annewandering]

Well not sure what it means but the thread saying se has turned on their servers got locked out. there was a bit of flaming there at the end so it might be as simple as that.

[RAIST]

Looks like they will indeed have to keep up the rolling blackout mess...last hour was still hitting @35MW even with a blackout block in effect. Oh well... wonder how long the next extension will be if SE decides to hold off a little longer.

[RAIST]

SE's IP's keep going inactive....just watched some go dead/active twice just now....guess they are going to be tinkering for a while.

[Deadlyscorpion]

Just pinged the servers for ffxi and got a response from all of them

Fixed that for ya.

[RAIST]

DailyYomiuri TEPCO says it will not implement planned power cuts for the remainder of today. The 1st outage for Group 1 tomorrow will occur as scheduled.
9 minutes ago

They just reported hitting 37MW peak though while still in a blackout... odd

<cross your fingers>

[Deadlyscorpion]

<cross your fingers>

Do you think they would risk having the servers on today for a few hours, perhaps for a day or two, and then have to turn them off if things get worse? I get the impression that since they're already committed to not charge for the rest of the month that they're just going to keep the servers off for at least a week more. Of course that's just speculation on my part, but I figure that the integrity of the server files is more important than anything else, I doubt they'll risk turning on the server in the event of an unexpected power failure due to overload, if that's even possible.

I can't really speak much since I don't fully understand how all that stuff works, but just judging by the way they're treating having one plant out of 53 others down affects the rest of the power being supplied to the country, I assume that there's not enough power to go around and that's why the planned outtages are being implemented, and if that's true, wouldn't that mean that if too much power is being consumed and there's not enough supply to meet the demand that it will cause an overload and shut down completely? I know I'm going in circles but I'm trying to make sense of why there are so many nuclear plants in Japan and yet one being down causes all this trouble, all the destruction problems aside of course.

[RAIST]

brain fart... just realized how they laid out their stupid chart.

Max capacity is 37MW.... their max demand looks to be 35/36 MW. They were only giving one numerical value, just assumed it was the value of the freaking bars in the chart.

Goes to show what happens when you ass-u-me things......

[jeffanddane]

/scream in excitement like a little girl!!!!!!!!

[Deadlyscorpion]

brain fart... just realized how they laid out their stupid chart.

Max capacity is 37MW.... their max demand looks to be 35/36 MW. They were only giving one numerical value, just assumed it was the value of the freaking bars in the chart.

Goes to show what happens when you ass-u-me things......

Is that good or bad? Does that mean they're using 35-36/37MW?

[Bloomingodsname]

Do you think they would risk having the servers on today for a few hours, perhaps for a day or two, and then have to turn them off if things get worse? I get the impression that since they're already committed to not charge for the rest of the month that they're just going to keep the servers off for at least a week more. Of course that's just speculation on my part, but I figure that the integrity of the server files is more important than anything else, I doubt they'll risk turning on the server in the event of an unexpected power failure due to overload, if that's even possible.

I can't really speak much since I don't fully understand how all that stuff works, but just judging by the way they're treating having one plant out of 53 others down affects the rest of the power being supplied to the country, I assume that there's not enough power to go around and that's why the planned outtages are being implemented, and if that's true, wouldn't that mean that if too much power is being consumed and there's not enough supply to meet the demand that it will cause an overload and shut down completely? I know I'm going in circles but I'm trying to make sense of why there are so many nuclear plants in Japan and yet one being down causes all this trouble, all the destruction problems aside of course.

not sure on this either...but from what I've gathered the 1 power plant supplies most of Tokyo with power...it being down causes troubles in places like hospitals so to try to keep the hospitals with power they're doing outage waves in the other areas so that as ppl need the hospitals they can at least hope to count on the hospital nearest them being with power...

as for the servers...I'm thinking that once the power gets regulated that SE is gonna keep the servers down another day or so to be safe...kinda like a computer you usually unplug a computer in a bad storm to prevent the frying of the motherboard and thus the loosing of data on the computer...so if the servers are seen as a computer I think SE would keep them shut down to prevent the "frying" of the server info...

[RAIST]

can't speak for them, but I would hazard a guess they would want to hold out for there to be enough headroom between supply and demand so that if they have to rely on backup power, it would only be for short spikes. Each of there big devices is likely pulling in around 700-800 watts or more because of power redundancy (dual PSU, battery backups), so they are going to need a hefty amount of current to keep those bad boys up.

[RAIST]

Is that good or bad? Does that mean they're using 35-36/37MW?
correct, but that is also while a block was in blackout phase as well.

Considering they were able to peg 37MW supply again today, guess they are just going to wing it to see if the grid can handle it today.

[Deadlyscorpion]

correct, but that is also while a block was in blackout phase as well.

Considering they were able to peg 37MW supply again today, guess they are just going to wing it to see if the grid can handle it today.

And that's what worries me, that's not a long term plan, which is why I am leaning towards SE not putting the servers back online just yet. I am as ready as anyone to play, but I've been gone from the game for 4 years, and to be honest I'd rather they keep things safe than put the servers back online only to have to take them off again a few days later.

[annewandering]

Do you think they would risk having the servers on today for a few hours, perhaps for a day or two, and then have to turn them off if things get worse? I get the impression that since they're already committed to not charge for the rest of the month that they're just going to keep the servers off for at least a week more. Of course that's just speculation on my part, but I figure that the integrity of the server files is more important than anything else, I doubt they'll risk turning on the server in the event of an unexpected power failure due to overload, if that's even possible.

I can't really speak much since I don't fully understand how all that stuff works, but just judging by the way they're treating having one plant out of 53 others down affects the rest of the power being supplied to the country, I assume that there's not enough power to go around and that's why the planned outtages are being implemented, and if that's true, wouldn't that mean that if too much power is being consumed and there's not enough supply to meet the demand that it will cause an overload and shut down completely? I know I'm going in circles but I'm trying to make sense of why there are so many nuclear plants in Japan and yet one being down causes all this trouble, all the destruction problems aside of course.

Well actually six are down out of what? something like 55? The 55 provide 30+% of the power in the country. Now along with those, part of the other power sources are down too. They are getting those back up as well but since they arent radioactive they arent getting the media attention.
Oh and the country was on the edge in energy consumption before anything happened. They had plans to put two more reactors in business in April I believe.

[RAIST]

kenmogi FNN reports external power line has been connected to reactor 4

Might be approaching an important time frame for the day. A lot of banks were talking about bringing their ATM's back up after noon today (almost 12pm JST). Will be interesting to see the impact if they do--could provide a good indicator for SE if they are closely monitoring everything. <HINT HINT... TAP TAP... YOU HEAR ME SE?>

[Deadlyscorpion]

Well actually six are down out of what? something like 55? The 55 provide 30+% of the power in the country. Now along with those, part of the other power sources are down too. They are getting those back up as well but since they arent radioactive they arent getting the media attention.

Wait, what? Six plants generate 30% of the power to the country? Where does the other 70% come from!?

[Bloomingodsname]

And that's what worries me, that's not a long term plan, which is why I am leaning towards SE not putting the servers back online just yet. I am as ready as anyone to play, but I've been gone from the game for 4 years, and to be honest I'd rather they keep things safe than put the servers back online only to have to take them off again a few days later.

I'd rather SE keep the servers down til they're 100% sure it's safe rather then having to completely restart everything in the case of info getting lost in a outage surge...although everyone needing to restart would be interesting and loads would quit I'm sure...

[Sesono]

Wait, what? Six plants generate 30% of the power to the country? Where does the other 70% come from!?

Oil? Coal? Gas? Water? Wind? Sun? ...

[annewandering]

Wait, what? Six plants generate 30% of the power to the country? Where does the other 70% come from!?

no. all the reactors provide 30+% of the nations energy needs.
I believe the rest were provided in the standard ways like coal and oil. maybe gas? There are websites that address all this. Just google and you can find them easily enough.
bravenewclimate.com might have it.

[Deadlyscorpion]

Oil? Coal? Gas? Water? Wind? Sun? ...


no. all the reactors provide 30+% of the nations energy needs.
I believe the rest were provided in the standard ways like coal and oil. maybe gas? There are websites that address all this. Just google and you can find them easily enough.
bravenewclimate.com might have it.

I thought they just had to reopen 11 coal mines because they were phasing them out. So how does that work, I'm mighty confused. I don't know why I had this crazy idea that like the numbers were the other way around, 70% Nuclear and 30% alternative hehe.

[RAIST]

I forget all the details exactly, but it was covered in some news coverage early on. The Dai Ni plant kicked off the control rods when the first quake hit and they eventually went into cold shutdown (no rods in the core). Before they can be brought back online they have to undergo full inspection. So, they will be coming back online eventually if all checks out.

They have several power companies that feed power to Japan. One of those third party wholesalers is supposed to be cranking up to provide 150MW, but they did not say how much of an increase that was over their normal provision. They mentioned that a mix of Natural Gas, Coal, and Nuclear are used there, and I want to say that it was 30% of all of Japan is nuclear, but Tokyo was a bit different on it's allotment somehow.

[annewandering]

I thought they just had to reopen 11 coal mines because they were phasing them out. So how does that work, I'm mighty confused. I don't know why I had this crazy idea that like the numbers were the other way around, 70% Nuclear and 30% alternative hehe.

Probably the media hype. You would think the whole country would be without power till they build new plants if you just listened to them.

[RAIST]

http://www.meti.go.jp/english/electricity_supply/pdf/110321_1030_Factsheet.pdf

this gives a quick rundown of the nuclear situation and the timeline up to the 21'st (JST). Looks like 18 Nuclear reactors. It may have been 70% of the nation is nuclear, but only 30% of that is from Dai Ichi or something odd like that. There's been a lot of numbers thrown about.

[Deadlyscorpion]

Yea, sensationalism has been running rampart these last few days hasn't it? I will say this though, I have been working a lot lately and I've been biking to work (12.5 miles each way) these past two weeks and when I get home I'm pretty beat. I guess I can be excused for reading the news wrong since I've been doing so at 30% as well haha.

[annewandering]

lol on the other hand you are getting fresh air and good exercise and saving the environment a bit.

[annewandering]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Japan this has a run down on the nuclear plants in japan.

[Deadlyscorpion]

lol on the other hand you are getting fresh air and good exercise and saving the environment a bit.

That's only half right. I'm in New York City, I don't know about that fresh air you talk about.

[annewandering]

oh well. at least you are not adding to the pollution when you bike :D

[RAIST]

some info from the wiki:

With 53 active nuclear power generating reactor units in 2009, Japan ranked third in the world in that respect, after the United States (104 reactors) and France (59).[4] Almost one quarter (24.93%) of its electricity production was from nuclear plants, compared to 76.18% for France and 19.66% for the United States.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Japan

A run-down of TEPCO is here (they actually do a lot of Hydro too):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Electric_Power_Company

[Alhanelem]

The article I read on the subject said that 1/3 of Japan's power came from nuclear. (of course, the wikipedia data is 2 years old)

[RAIST]

missed the full story just now on NHK (getting daughter to bed)--something about TEPCO revising and going to resume rolling blackouts again. /sigh

Guess they'll have some new PDF's up in a couple hours.

Gonna call it a night...gotta get up in 7 hours to get the taru up and off to school.

Hang in there guys.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

There's was an earquake just now in the kanto region.

[Deadlyscorpion]

missed the full story just now on NHK (getting daughter to bed)--something about TEPCO revising and going to resume rolling blackouts again. /sigh

Guess they'll have some new PDF's up in a couple hours.

Gonna call it a night...gotta get up in 7 hours to get the taru up and off to school.

Hang in there guys.

Good night Raist!

[annewandering]

how big tsukino? they have them all day long recently. in the 4-5.6 or so range.

[annewandering]

night raist!

[Tingle]

There's was an earquake just now in the kanto region.

Where did you get this info? I am searching for it and can't seem to find it.

[Airenn]

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html maybe

also

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/

[Airenn]

Jesus, Japan is getting SLAMMED with earthquakes. I don't know anything about them or what's bad, but is this normal? Wow.

[Kam]

I don't understand how losing $3,000,000 (~$13 x 300,000) could ever be justified by closing the servers for 10 days, Japan's economy must be ruined

[Daigotsu]

I don't understand how losing $3,000,000 (~$13 x 300,000) could ever be justified by closing the servers for 10 days, Japan's economy must be ruined

21k are dead or missing, 380k are displaced. Yes, the economy is ruined.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Where did you get this info? I am searching for it and can't seem to find it.I was "watching" the news on tvjpn, it was something live.

[Tingle]

Ugh... That's horrible... I wish the quakes would just stop...

[Altheav]

I don't understand how losing $3,000,000 (~$13 x 300,000) could ever be justified by closing the servers for 10 days, Japan's economy must be ruined

I used to be a financial analyst for a major computing firm. As part of my job, I invoiced one of their customers to the tune of $10M a month. And that was just ONE of their many, many customers. Square Enix is a very large company with multiple revenue streams. A loss of $3M will hurt, but I doubt it will ruin them.


There's was an earquake just now in the kanto region.

5.9 about 79 miles East/South-east of Tokyo. (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc00028lm.php) LOTS of activity right now, according to the USGS shake map (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_35.php).

[Chrisstreb]

こんにちは！本日朝、関係者により再開に向けての検討会議が開かれました。
現在グループ全社でどれだけの節電効果があったかのデータを鋭意集計中です。
その結果により、現状の電力事情を考慮した上で今後どのような対応が可能かを継続して審議しております。
正式な対応策が決まるまでもう少しお時間をください。よろしくお願いします。

Guess from what I attempted to read (and Google translated from a friend), it means that they're "further investigating measures and would like us to show patience. Thank you." Was in the JP part of the forums

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Guess from what I attempted to read (and Google translated from a friend), it means that they're "further investigating measures and would like us to show patience. Thank you." Was in the JP part of the forumsNice to know the rest of us are getting updates...

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I posted on their board asking that they tell everyone in all countries. ^^;

Avina, click the icon nect to the name to go to the post. It was a JP DEV team member.

[Avina]

I posted on their board asking that they tell everyone in all countries. ^^;

Avina, click the icon nect to the name to go to the post. It was a JP DEV team member.

Yeah I just actually went and checked it out myself, that's really odd though, his name won't come up if you search for it but other DEVs should up... but I guess Tanaka is a little bit more than a regular DEV member... you just kinda called out one of (well used to be) development heads of the FFXI/XIV team.

[Avina]

Reading over it now, here's a kinda speedy translation (don't quote me on accuracy, I'm just eyeballing it)

Basically sounds like they met today to discuss the situation, and were working to totaling up the power-saving effects of the group. They are going to continue with their analysis and determine what kind of result will be possible considering the current power situation in Japan. Finally he requests a little bit more time before a formal announcement will be made, and thanks us.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Reading over it now, here's a kinda speedy translation (don't quote me on accuracy, I'm just eyeballing it)

Basically sounds like they met today to discuss the situation, and were working to totaling up the power-saving effects of the group. They are going to continue with their analysis and determine what kind of result will be possible considering the current power situation in Japan. Finally he requests a little bit more time before a formal announcement will be made, and thanks us.Still would be something nice to state to all countries.

[Avina]

Still would be something nice to state to all countries.

I think it's more the issue that the translators on this side of the world are asleep at the moment. I mean I see where you are coming from, but seeing as there wasn't a decision made I don't think anyone had time over here to translate the message.

[annewandering]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromichi_Tanaka
This is the source apparently so sounds like its pretty much a solid one.

Here is the translation from google translate of the above japanese post.


Hello! Today morning, a meeting was held to consider the resumption by the people concerned.
Aggregate data is in earnest or how much power savings were now a group company.
The result, we have continued to discuss what further support the possibility that in consideration of the current power situation.
Please give us more time to determine the official measures. Thank you.

[Avina]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromichi_Tanaka
This is the source apparently so sounds like its pretty much a solid one.

Yeah he's big.

[annewandering]

Basically it sounds like they are trying to determine if the power is good enough to power up and asking for more time to decide.
I guess it is probably smart to figure they need to spend more time doing that than posting. ^^
With the tokyo power not knowing if they had enough power from what we have all read today it makes sense that SE would have a hard time knowing as well.
Tomorrow is another day and hopefully full of promise :D

[annewandering]

lol kinda sideways on topic but someone said they ought to be using cloud, which i am not quite sure what that is, and when i look at the bottom left side of the screen what do i see? tags for this thread none view tag cloud. sounds like SE is on the ball more than that poster thought anyway.

[Kimble]

The servers went down around 2am PST time so if anything, id expect them to go up around that same time when they do go up again.

[Anela]

The servers went down around 2am PST time so if anything, id expect them to go up around that same time when they do go up again.

Yup, thats about 10 min from now..... Not holding my breath....

[Kimble]

Uh... its only going to be 12 am PST in 10 minutes...

[Alhanelem]

Still would be something nice to state to all countries.
They will be saying it to all countries. The JP staff aren't english experts, and they have to pass this along to the english team to translate. I don't like what I think you're implying here.

[annewandering]

TEPCO load shedding (power outages rotation) as well as summer and winter must continue to be, announced on Tuesday. The earthquake tsunami East, large-scale power plants in Fukushima Prefecture and Ibaraki Prefecture, was found to be broken because the prospect of recovery than stand at the moment.

Revealed TEPCO official told The Asahi Shimbun. Be severely restricted the use of air conditioning in the home or office summer and winter load shedding is inevitable. Rolling blackouts in the summer, high temperatures - 2 pm are expected to be conducted primarily at three. Scale power failure, may increase depending on how the temperature rise. Also likely take a big hit in the industry long-term power supply can be restricted to the metropolitan area.

Fired power plants showed significant damage, the Hirono Thermal Power Station (Fukushima Prefecture), and a thermal power plant Hitachinaka (Tokai-mura, Ibaraki Prefecture). Facilities and power plants, fuel storage facilities destroyed by the tsunami, such as oil and coal. The two power plants in total output of 4.8 million kilowatts, Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station was also damaged by the tsunami (Futabachō Ookuma town, Fukushima Prefecture, 469.6 kilowatts million) equal to.

TEPCO's peak demand for power to the tube 28 million households, about 60 million kilowatts will require air conditioning in summer, around 50 million kilowatts in winter heating demand increases. TEPCO supplies power for it to stay current about 35 million kilowatts.

TEPCO, and to launch a small-scale thermal power plants are dormant plans to raise about 40 million kilowatts in April. In addition, companies such as wholesale electricity and gas companies (IPP) and promote the purchase of electricity, plans to increase to about 47 million kilowatts by summer. However, when summer still 10 million kilowatts (3.33 million households), is calculated as millions of kilowatts short of winter.

Power is not large for the tank as water and gas. Therefore, it is necessary to provide power supply demand amount. Power companies to fund the necessary power when its power plants, and Tooru Tooru get power from other power companies, the difference in the frequency of the power company can receive from the West to 100 kilowatts. Tohoku Electric Power is the same frequency, power and lack of disaster is not expected Tooru Tooru. Only get from the limits of 60 million kilowatts from Hokkaido Electric Power Transmission Technology.

TEPCO officials "were also fired and running again, not so much power into one regular inspection. This summer is likely to continue next summer as well winter is also a tightrope," he said.

Asahi Top Com

Keywords: Hokkaido Electric Power blackouts powered thermal power plant Toukyoudenryoku

This article is

Decommissioning of all six groups Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, TEPCO also "inevitable" view (3 / 21)
Question of rolling blackouts, TEPCO representative asked (3 / 19)
TEPCO to run our power plants during the next outage (3 / 17)
Satoshi Amane rolling blackouts, a private dial plan better next prospect TEPCO (3 / 16)
Counseling for patients on ventilators at home rolling blackouts TEPCO (3 / 15)


This is not sounding so good to me. They are apparently talking of problems well into NEXT summer and winter. No unexpected I guess but dang.

[Altheav]

DISCLAIMER: I am not a seismologist, meteorologist, or even a statistician. I am, however, a spreadsheet wrangler by vocation; given a set of data, I'll pivot it. :p

Anyway -- a lot of people have been wondering whether the amount of earthquakes Japan has been getting is normal for this time of year or not. After doing some digging, I managed to find the right link on the USGS website for downloading raw data. I pulled earthquakes of all magnitudes from 2000 to 2011, lattitude 45 to 30 & longitude 130 to 155. That should include most, if not all, of Japan. Here's a link to the Data Set Search Query results (http://neic.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/epic/epic.cgi?SEARCHMETHOD=2&FILEFORMAT=6&SEARCHRANGE=HH&SLAT2=45&SLAT1=30&SLON1=130&SLON2=155&SYEAR=2000&SMONTH=01&SDAY=01&EYEAR=2011&EMONTH=03&EDAY=21&LMAG=&UMAG=&NDEP1=&NDEP2=&IO1=&IO2=&CLAT=0.0&CLON=0.0&CRAD=0.0&SUBMIT=Submit+Search) - not sure if that will still work or not.

Did a quick pivot on it to get a count of earthquakes occurring in March. While it's not at all unusual for them to get earthquakes between 3.5 and 5.0 this time of year, the number of quakes they are getting (due to aftershocks) is much, MUCH greater than normal. :(

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5150/5549560770_7976aa8c0d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/althea_valara/5549560770/)
Count of Japanese Earthquakes in March, 2000 - 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/althea_valara/5549560770/) by Althea Valara (http://www.flickr.com/people/althea_valara/), on Flickr

[Anela]

Uh... its only going to be 12 am PST in 10 minutes...

lol sorry, saw 2am EST, not PST.. and the change to DST got me even more confuzzeled......*.*

[annewandering]

DISCLAIMER: I am not a seismologist, meteorologist, or even a statistician. I am, however, a spreadsheet wrangler by vocation; given a set of data, I'll pivot it. :p

Anyway -- a lot of people have been wondering whether the amount of earthquakes Japan has been getting is normal for this time of year or not. After doing some digging, I managed to find the right link on the USGS website for downloading raw data. I pulled earthquakes of all magnitudes from 2000 to 2011, lattitude 45 to 30 & longitude 130 to 155. That should include most, if not all, of Japan. Here's a link to the Data Set Search Query results (http://neic.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/epic/epic.cgi?SEARCHMETHOD=2&FILEFORMAT=6&SEARCHRANGE=HH&SLAT2=45&SLAT1=30&SLON1=130&SLON2=155&SYEAR=2000&SMONTH=01&SDAY=01&EYEAR=2011&EMONTH=03&EDAY=21&LMAG=&UMAG=&NDEP1=&NDEP2=&IO1=&IO2=&CLAT=0.0&CLON=0.0&CRAD=0.0&SUBMIT=Submit+Search) - not sure if that will still work or not.

Did a quick pivot on it to get a count of earthquakes occurring in March. While it's not at all unusual for them to get earthquakes between 3.5 and 5.0 this time of year, the number of quakes they are getting (due to aftershocks) is much, MUCH greater than normal. :(

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5150/5549560770_7976aa8c0d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/althea_valara/5549560770/)
Count of Japanese Earthquakes in March, 2000 - 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/althea_valara/5549560770/) by Althea Valara (http://www.flickr.com/people/althea_valara/), on Flickr
Hey good information. I was wondering that. On my google gadget it was showing 5+ point earthquakes every hour for days after the 9.0 one hit. Now its down to maybe three or four during the day light hours. They do seem to be slowing down and dropping down into the four and five catagory more often instead of the five and six catagories as before.

[Tingle]

That's great news. At least it's finally dying down.

[Ilax]

Good info Altheav, should have made a new thread about it, almost missed that information.

Thanks you for those 2 link.

[Deadlyscorpion]

lol kinda sideways on topic but someone said they ought to be using cloud, which i am not quite sure what that is, and when i look at the bottom left side of the screen what do i see? tags for this thread none view tag cloud. sounds like SE is on the ball more than that poster thought anyway.

Cloud is basically Virtual services. It would mean that instead of running the servers from Japan only you could put the information on a virtual server which can be run from anywhere in the world. For example. Let's say that it takes 30 servers to run FFXI, they would hire someone like Amazon.com, which runs tons of Cloud services, and Amazon would provide the same hardware that SE has for running FFXi on a virtual machine. What that allows SE to do is to run their services from anywhere in the world, and should one virtual server go down, the information is spread around the cloud, so another server in a different location would still have the information, so it's always live.

Sony is already working on this for the Playstation 3, where your save files will be saved on a Cloud, so no matter which PS3 you're playing on, as long as you log in with your account, your save file will be accessible. This is way more complicated in terms of MMO, but you could essentially have an in-house Cloud network between all the POL offices around the world, and should anything happen at one particular location, all the data would still be available from any of the other locations.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Cloud is basically Virtual services. It would mean that instead of running the servers from Japan only you could put the information on a virtual server which can be run from anywhere in the world. For example. Let's say that it takes 30 servers to run FFXI, they would hire someone like Amazon.com, which runs tons of Cloud services, and Amazon would provide the same hardware that SE has for running FFXi on a virtual machine. What that allows SE to do is to run their services from anywhere in the world, and should one virtual server go down, the information is spread around the cloud, so another server in a different location would still have the information, so it's always live.

Sony is already working on this for the Playstation 3, where your save files will be saved on a Cloud, so no matter which PS3 you're playing on, as long as you log in with your account, your save file will be accessible. This is way more complicated in terms of MMO, but you could essentially have an in-house Cloud network between all the POL offices around the world, and should anything happen at one particular location, all the data would still be available from any of the other locations.Which is all wonderful. I don't understand people's anti-cloud propoganda.

[RAIST]

Interesting proposition. I always got the impression Cloud computing was used in large part for applications of considerably smaller scale though. At least, that's how it is generally marketed to the public: everyone taps into office applications online instead of installing 100 copies in your office--everyone just uses the "cloud" apps online.

Each "world" is already distributed across seperate servers as is (zones are split across different IP's, could be VM's or physically on different hardware). It could take considerable effort to get it all uploaded. With so many pieces already making up each server's Vanadiel world as is, putting that into a cloud array could result in a LOT of data floating around out there. If it were just one gameworld is one thing, but 24 production sets (soon going to 16) could be a vicious undertaking.

It surely would be an interesting experiment though. Might be something for them to explore with their test server set first.

[annewandering]

If I were SE I might use this for things that didnt really matter. No way would I put the game servers in or on anything that wasnt sitting right in front of me where I can control who has access.

[NightDagger]

I can't see Cloud having any purpose for SE. I do not think a site like Amazon or anyone would allow them to use up all that space & effectively using their bandwidth up. Now even though they had to shutdown their servers & it has made a lot of us to question why they have never had a backup plan for such an incident.

I can not see something of this magnitude happening for a really long time. So if SE were to just take their chances & not change anything (by not having back up server or anything) they would save a lot more money in the long run if this were to happen in say 10 years (god I hope not for Japan's sake not the game)

[RAIST]

Yeah... it kind of reminds me of the big debate over disk-to-disk backups vs. tape backups. 500/TB or 1500/TB cost analysis would scare the hell out of the bean counters. But, then you showed them how easy it was to screw up a tape...then they jumped on board with the disks. But, I doubt the cost gap is that close with the massive operations they are dealing with at SE.

I looked at that infineta system last week during the debates over this issue. The techs were talking about replacing hardware at costs up to 400k a pop for some setups just to reduce that latency on synchronization. Probly better for them to just nix access for a couple weeks and eat the losses in subscription fees then forking out 250k+ a pop X who knows how many sets to get low-latency redundancy going.

[Deadlyscorpion]

I wouldn't have the data spread around different servers cloud style, but virtualized cloud style private networks for SE might work. . It would work something like a raid setup. Put one virtual server in Japan that is basically the equivalent of what it takes to run the game (big servers like this do exist). Then put two others in place that run with it in two different parts of the world and if one goes down the other takes over. The involment of cloud in this plan allows for a few things:

-Less servers pulling electricity
-Servers in 3 different countries would work as I'd they were in the same network.

The downsides would be longer maintenance and God knows what other problems might occur when running an mmo on cloud.

[RAIST]

yeah... the latency would likely still eat them up--even if they could afford dark fiber between them. When you are able to stream large chunks you can afford to use different tricks with the checksum tracking to reduce latency, but with all the tiny packets of data flying back and fourth to all the clients...might wind up with a lot of dirty data. meh.

SE has their reasons for what they do...sure they had a team do a big analysis on it already. But, with all the advancements in technology and software it may be time to do another one.

Anywho... any good news on the Japan front? See they've been on blackouts since I logged off last night.

[RAIST]

This mornigns radiation levels showing mixed results. Outlying areas are showing both increases and decreases, but no big spikes for the most part. Must be due to weather changes, as changes are slight for most of them. But Ibaraki pref. went up a good bit--about 10% to break the 1200 mark again. They just can't catch a break.

People getting a little spooked about the spread of the radiation reaching previously assumed "safe" regions. Even getting elevations in Tokyo now--broke 100 there already, and it's been below 50 for the longest time.

[RAIST]

From JapanTimes article via twitter link:


External power was connected to the No. 4 reactor in the morning, making it the fifth of the plant's six reactors to have vital power restored so that key equipment can be restarted, including ventilation systems to filter radioactive substances from the air and measuring gauges in the control room.

Only the No. 3 reactor remains unconnected to an external power source, but even at the other reactors workers need to check the condition of each piece of equipment before feeding the power in, the nuclear safety agency said.



Tepco hopes to restore the power systems to revive key equipment, including data measuring devices, and functions by Wednesday for the No. 1 and 2 reactors and by Thursday for the No. 3 and 4 reactors, Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, told a news conference.

Sounds like they made a lot of progress last night/yesterday. YAY!

[RAIST]

the guys at fleep.com have put a lot of work into compiling/graphing a lot of data on radiation levels and earthquake readings for the last week or so. This has turned into an ongoing project that they update with each new batch of data, and they are announcing when they apply newly released data via the twitter feeds (links to their feeds on the page, but they also tweet at tokyopost and japantimes as well I think). They've added weather forecasts to the page as well. Might want to bookmark it for future reference:

http://fleep.com/earthquake/

[Deadlyscorpion]

I'm still worried about a long term strategy, or lack thereof. A lot of effort is being put towards making the essentials up and running but what are they doing for the long haul? What's going to happen to all the people left without homes?

[RAIST]

hmmmm... was poking around TEPCO and a bit confused about status of Kashiwazaki plant. Looks like they may have been nearing completion of inspection/recovery on #2, 3, and 4 reactors there, but suspended operations due to the quake on 3/11. Can't find any more info past 3/17 on that one. Would be nice if they could get some more power from that site.

Hope they can get containment at Dai-Ichi soon so they can put some more resources to Kashiwazaki maybe.

[RAIST]

I'm still worried about a long term strategy, or lack thereof. A lot of effort is being put towards making the essentials up and running but what are they doing for the long haul? What's going to happen to all the people left without homes?

Think I saw some mentioning suspension of completion on the new site until they reviewed it for compliance with safety/quake/tsunami regulations and such in light of recent events.

There was also a short story on NHK the other day about a company specializing in modular homes coming up with a design for replacement housing. Awaiting approval on a new system they have put together. It's kind of like pre-fabbed duplex apartment structures they can put up quickly.

Nothing more than a short news reel that one day, no more mention of it since.

[Arconis]

I'm still worried about a long term strategy, or lack thereof. A lot of effort is being put towards making the essentials up and running but what are they doing for the long haul? What's going to happen to all the people left without homes?

I agree I am am worried as well about long turn strategy for JP ppl. That being said I am also encouraged by what they have accomplished sense the disaster. It has amazed me how fast there getting there essential services back up and running the sure scale of it all. I think there on right track and the will figure out something for more long term housing for there people once they have the shortages of food water and other essential supplies under control with supply lines restored.

[RAIST]

JRNHeadlines NHK: Power has been connected to #fukushima reactor #3 and lights have come on there.

last one needing power...good news.

[RAIST]

JRNHeadlines NHK: Toyota to keep domestic factories closed through Mar. 26.

So, SE not the only one holding out. Toyota was supposed to fire up operations this week. May see more companies hold out a couple more days as well.

[Arconis]

last one needing power...good news.

This is indeed good News now they can get all the reactors cooling systems going and then get down to the real work of cleaning up and assessing the total damage without having to worry about meltdown every min.

Thank You RAIST for posting this :)

[NightDagger]

So, SE not the only one holding out. Toyota was supposed to fire up operations this week. May see more companies hold out a couple more days as well.

Yeah my Mother in-law works at Toyota plant in Ontario. She said the "official" notice from Toyota in Japan is that On March 28th they plan to power up for 8 hours to perform proper maintenance of machinery. Once all maintenance is complete they plan to run 1 shift for first week of operation to provide stock for international factories. After their first week if the power situation has improved the will resume operation at a normal capacity, but if the power is not restored they will be shutting down again to allow the power to be used else where.

This is rather generous of them, alot of people who work for Toyota rely on parts from Japan in order to complete their job. There we even talk of a short shutdown here if Japan was unable to send then any parts to keep going.

[RAIST]

Yeah.. hopefully Nissan follows too. They fired up several divisions just to produce parts and were planning to start vehicles on the 24th, but that may change too.

[RAIST]

This is from an article already a couple days old(3/19) at GaijinPot,. Don't recall seeing it mentioned in the news streams:


Construction of some 200 temporary housing units started Saturday in the coastal city of Rikuzentakata in Iwate Prefecture, which was severely damaged in the mega earthquake and tsunamis.

The 30-square-meter prefabricated houses capable of accommodating two to three people will be built on the grounds of a junior high school. A date for completing construction has yet to be set.

[RAIST]

JRNHeadlines And still another 5.9 in Ibaraki. No #tsunami alert.
8 minutes ago

don't know how they can take this over there...they are happening all the time lately

[Macrom]

don't know how they can take this over there...they are happening all the time lately

Really is some scary stuff going on over there still

[RAIST]

got cutoff from Ustream this afternoon, then got called to go revive laway system after power outage at mother's store--Stupid UPS Battery was hosed and no one replaced, some idgett just silenced the warning and never ordered a new battery. Database in an inconsistent state. Thankfully I wrote a batchfile that ran a dump to a USB drive at 6pm each night--so I just took the easy way out and they had to redo all activity that morning after restore. Don't like tinkering with someone's homebrew apps if I can avoid it. Hope someone learned a valuable lesson today about the value of their @#$@#$!@#$ UPS.

Anywho... TEPCO has released a nice recap of their powerstation events up to yesterday. Good read for new members that want a bit of a rundown on what's been going on in one shot. It also includes a little info on the Dai Ni station and Kashiwazaki nuclear sites and some of their non-nuclear facilities:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11032218-e.html

Radiation levels seam to be holding or showing a slight improvement. Outlying levels are still basically the same as yesterday, but areas closer to Dai Ichi have seen roughly a 10% drop in the last 24 hours. Ibaraki is back under 1k again, but still a way to go from the 600/700 range it was 3 days ago. Progress is still progress I guess.

They're still getting shaken up a good bit over there, lots of short shocks in the 4-6 magnitude ranges,:
tamegoeswild Ouch! RT @KyungLahCNN JMA says that last aftershock was a 4.1. Not strong, but strong enough to hit my head against the wall and wake me up!
6 minutes ago

JRNHeadlines 6.0 #earthquake in southern #fukushima just inland from nuclear plants. No #tsunami alert.
21 minutes ago

Ustream is still not streaming NHK yet, so had to go to the NHK site, but it looks like they are rerunning the same info (or the same type of stories at least as this morning):
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Haven't been going to their site b/c I liked being able to load Ustream directly in my player with no browser load. Broke down and I lifted the NHK's direct paths to the ASX streams though, in case you want to just load the stream in your media players too without loading the whole web page.

If you use these links, you may get prompted to open/save them--just open them and it should load in your default player (Windows Media, VLC Player, etc). Kinda nice to have it runing in a small box off to the side so you don't have to keep tabbing back to it to watch while browsing the web... heheh:

128-bit stream: http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/r0/low.asx
256 bit stream: http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/r0/high.asx
"HQ" stream: http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/r/movie/

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The NHK news I was just watching was interupts with another earthquake report. In Ibaraki I think.

[Haglaz]

Raist...you rock bud!

[RAIST]

heheh... love the updated sig Tsukino.

[RAIST]

heavy tweet storm a couple minutes ago... just grabbed a handful (most were stating the same alarms:



kenmogi This morning, quakes hitting literary every minute. As prior quake subdues, another quake alert beeps on tv. What the..

TimeOutTokyo Four significant aftershocks in quick succession this morning. Tokyo is rolling once again!

W7VOA Latest one at 0734JST triggering tsunami concern.

shioyama よかった！ RT @BlaisePlant Oh no! Another huge earthquake in the same places! Looks like the reactors are ok though.

W7VOA Shindo 5+ in Fukushima-ken.

W7VOA NO tsunami alert.

[RAIST]

Finally starting to see a little new info coming across the wire for Japan--a bunch of it is just recycled or recaps up to yesterday:


Efforts to restore electricity proceed at Fukushima plant. Once it gets electricity, things should be under control:

Tepco said access to electricity has been confirmed at reactor No. 2, and workers were checking the soundness of its utilities, including cooling pumps and other key safety equipment. However, the electrical connection from reactor No. 2 to the adjacent No. 1 had not been confirmed.

The No. 2 reactor was the first of the six to have its power center re-connected Sunday from cables Tepco laid outside the plant.

Reactor No. 4 had electricity access restored at 10:35 a.m. Tuesday, and was also undergoing utility checks. Work was also being done to connect electricity between reactors 4 and 3, Tepco said.

Regarding reactors 5 and 6, Tepco said work was ongoing to connect pipes to outside electrical supplies to pump in seawater to its circulation system, and that the operation should be completed Wednesday.

(Information from Kyodo added)


DailyYomiuri Water spraying on the No. 4 reactor of the Fukushima N-plant began at 10am today by the Tokyo FD's Hyper Rescue Squad, TEPCO said.

DailyYomiuri Arakawa and Adachi wards--the only 2 of Tokyo's 23 that have rolling blackouts--have lodged a formal complaint of "unfairness" with TEPCO

Just published today's readings — Fukushima slightly lower, Tokyo very slightly higher compared to yesterday.

Main Japan headlines this morning: power now connected to all six Fukushima reactors, mass burials of tsunami dead beginning.
Looks like Japan is trying to move on with life as normal the best they can:

DailyYomiuri Natl H.S. invitational #baseball championship begins, including Tohoku High School team based in disaster-hit Sendai --

jt_sayuridaimon Now, people who fled are returning to Tokyo
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110323f1.html

[RAIST]

DailyYomiuri Power is back on at the No.3 reactor at the Fukushima nuclear plant. A peek inside the control room, taken last night: 10 minutes ago
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/zoom/20110323-OYT9I00339.htm

DailyYomiuri Fuel pinch easing in #Kanto, parts of #Tohoku--Oil industry in full gear
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/business/T110322003426.htm

"Many production facilities put out of order by the quake and transportation bases in quake-hit areas are gradually becoming operational again. The petroleum industry believes gas shortages will be nearly resolved this week in the Kanto region, and by the end of the month in the Tohoku region."

fleep.com has imported the data from 06:00 JST to the graphs. no big spikes, for the most part holding steady or a slight increase/decrease in some areas. Most notable: readings show more decreases for the Fukushima area:
http://fleep.com/earthquake/

[RAIST]

Corporate conservation efforts are paying off today. From 09:00 - 11:00 with NO BLACKOUT IN EFFECT today, demand was just below/on par to the demand during the same time slot yesterday with rolling blackout in effect

[RAIST]

DailyYomiuri TEPCO: This afternoon's blackouts for Group 1 and 3 will not happen. Group 2 will be announced soon, and Group 4 to occur as scheduled.

Almost got to go a whole day with no blackouts... soooo close

/sigh

[NightDagger]

you are awesome man. get me a world pass I wanna be on your server ^^

[Tsukino_Kaji]

you are awesome man. get me a world pass I wanna be on your server ^^Raist just lives FFXI vicariously through the forums.

[annewandering]

He can live it vicariously on Lakshmi any time. ^^ A smart hardworking person is always welcome!

[NightDagger]

He can live it vicariously on Lakshmi any time. ^^ A smart hardworking person is always welcome!

yeah they are coming harder to find eh lol

Oh Did not realize you are Avalon ^^

[Kits]

MAN! Only if we could log on ff when the disasters were happening and stop it using our charecters, wouldnt that be nice? a video game based in real life... its the future of gaming!!

[Deadlyscorpion]

Wow. A lot has happened while I was at work. No blackouts sounds to me like people were conserving energy. Now I worry about the effects that will have once everyone is back to normal. I still stand by my belief that I will get home from work that night and the servers will be turned off : (

[RAIST]

VOA: #Japan businesses re-start production but problems remain
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asia/east-pacific/Japanese-Businesses-Restart-Production-But-Problems-Remain--118493084.html

On Wednesday, Panasonic, Fujitsu and NEC restarted electronics factories. But, as they were doing so, other companies were halting production, because of difficulty getting parts.

Sony stopped work at five factories, including those making television and cameras, because it cannot get raw materials or electronic components.

Toyota and Honda both say they will not resume car production until at least next week and the delay could be longer. Toyota spokesman Paul Nolasco explains why.

"We are having trouble setting up a smooth flowing and solid supply chain for electronics parts, for rubber parts and for plastic parts," Nolasco said.

Japan's big manufacturers have complex supply chains and disruption at any point can cause the entire system to stop.

Although quake or tsunami damage has directly hit some parts makers, others have been unable to distribute goods because of road closures in the quake-hit area and a shortage of gasoline across east Japan.

Those problems are showing signs of improvement.

The major Tohoku expressway, that runs from Tokyo through northern Japan, is now open to all trucks and the Petroleum Association of Japan says production of gasoline should be at 90 percent of normal levels by the end of this week.

The cost to businesses and the national economy is still difficult to gauge. The government says the direct cost of destruction of housing, businesses and infrastructure could be as high as $309 billion.

That figure does not include secondary losses, such as those caused by power shortages.

Tokyo Electric Power warned Wednesday that east Japan's current electricity problems could continue for months.

Peak demand for electricity on a hot day in the capital is 60 percent higher than the company can currently generate. The blackouts that have hit areas around Tokyo could extend to residential areas of the city itself.

The utility is short of electricity because 13 power stations remain offline ,and Fukushima Number 1, is likely never to come back online.

On Wednesday, Tokyo Electric asked seven banks for $25 billion to repair the damaged power plants.

[RAIST]

power demand peaked about @32/33MW last night (8-10pm JST) with the blackout in effect...really wish they would at least try to run without them for a full 24 hours. Peak supply available was 37.5MW on Tuesday, and they managed to keep it limited to @33MW during the morning rush without any blackouts (8-10am JST) yesterday. Seems like there is a lack of trust on TEPCO's end that people won't ration power at night for some reason.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/forecast/html/index-e.html

[RAIST]

got newsletter from SE...gave me a good laugh:

http://na.square-enix.com/newsletter/tr_trilogy_110322/

I know SE can use all the revenue it can muster after having FFXI down for @ 2 weeks.. but REALLY? TOMB RAIDER?
....the game that just refuses to die...

[NightDagger]

>< My mother in-law is done work after this week. They are going to close the Ontario Toyota plants cause they have no parts & they only come from Japan.

This is not good for Toyota in is self after everything they have been going through before this.

I hope that they are able to inspect & turn on those 2 power plants that were down for maintenance when the quake hit. Would be nice to know that people can have power 24/7 especially with the cold weather ><

[NightDagger]

got newsletter from SE...gave me a good laugh:

http://na.square-enix.com/newsletter/tr_trilogy_110322/

I know SE can use all the revenue it can muster after having FFXI down for @ 2 weeks.. but REALLY? TOMB RAIDER?
....the game that just refuses to die...

I LOVE the Tomb Raider series ^^. Played them all multiple times. Must be something about a big chested chick jumping around with two guns >.>

[RAIST]

I LOVE the Tomb Raider series ^^. Played them all multiple times. Must be something about a big chested chick jumping around with two guns >.>

lol.. yeah. They tried to use the same formula to sell FFX-2. Everyone went nuts when they showed the trailer of Yuna flipping around shooting her guns. Then half the players probly shut it off after the Charlie's Angels YRP moment....

[RAIST]

gamma levels didn't change a whole lot with this morning's figures (7:30PM JST). Slight slope down in Ibaraki though, about a 4-5% drop. Guess that's a good sign. Poking around some to see if there's any good news in a press conference or something. NHK showing the night time footage of the firefighters again.

[Deadlyscorpion]

got newsletter from SE...gave me a good laugh:

http://na.square-enix.com/newsletter/tr_trilogy_110322/

I know SE can use all the revenue it can muster after having FFXI down for @ 2 weeks.. but REALLY? TOMB RAIDER?
....the game that just refuses to die...

I work at a local game store and we just got this game yesterday. We probably won't sell it for a long time.