SE is giving THF's the sugar pill

[Laraul]

There is one thing that makes the "Treasure Hunter" ability truly unique among job traits and abilities in the game. It plays on the weakness that we are all inherently greedy. It should be obvious that within the game TH's power appears to influences crystal drops, and likely nothing more. But since TH is a trait and is "always on" so to speak, there's not any penalty to not use it. In many ways, TH gives people the will to go out and obtain specific drops by offering a hope that you've increased things in your favor.

[Arcon]

Only that it was shown that TH massively affects a multitude of drops. Not sure what the point of this rant was?

[Mara]

You want proof TH does something?

2 dynamis runs. Same zone, same mobs, only person in the zone both times so no competition.

Run 1 - THF/DNC w/TH7
Run 2 - DNC/WAR

Both jobs TP/WS in virtually identical gear.

Run 1 - 279 coins
Run 2 - 98 coins

I'd say that pretty well proves TH does something.

[Delvish]

You want proof TH does something?

2 dynamis runs. Same zone, same mobs, only person in the zone both times so no competition.

Run 1 - THF/DNC w/TH7
Run 2 - DNC/WAR

Both jobs TP/WS in virtually identical gear.

Run 1 - 279 coins
Run 2 - 98 coins

I'd say that pretty well proves TH does something.

This is a lie. My evidence?
"Only person in zone"

[Kojo]

I'm... wat

I'm not sure what your point is. Besides being wrong about TH only increasing crystal drop rate I don't see anything else that would qualify as a point in your OP. If you're complaining about not getting drops you want then that's just bad luck, TH doesn't ensure you a drop, it merely increases the chance to get it. Nowhere in your OP do you actually tell us what your problem or concern is, everyone who has read the OP has lost a precious few seconds of their lives that they will never get back. I award you no likes and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Babekeke]

This is a lie. My evidence?
"Only person in zone"

THF main (TH6 lolthf'sknife) I almost never see no coins drop, even when mob dies un-procced, which can happen when I'm soloing an exp trial. However when doing the same trials on non THF jobs, it's very common to see no drop from an un-procced mob.

[Vold]

Standard viewpoints of TH: I got the drop, thanks treasure hunter! or TH didn't get me my drop so it's useless.

Take your pick but in either case TH gets far too much credit for success and failure of rare drops.

[Karbuncle]

While i can personally attest to absolutely hating that pile of mediocrity that is Treasure Hunter... The bane of the job... the very trait that keeps us a useless sack of crap job entirely...

It does do something. While the effects diminish greatly as you go above TH4, it still works.

[Arcon]

This is a lie. My evidence?
"Only person in zone"

It also doesn't match current data:
http://www.ffxidb.com/zones/39/nightmare-funguar

Although it shows that TH does have a significant effect on currency drop rate.

[Satonaka]

Dropped the job with the release of Adoulin, successfully de-lvling it via bivouacs and setting HP in adoulin and Homepointing regularly. Currently lvl 98 now :)

Only thing that'll get me to come back, that'll make the THF's and "TH's" happy is a lvl 99 offhand dagger that has TH+1 on it, with good stats, good additional effects/stats, a decent delay and CANNOT be paired with the current THF knife.

The Mainhand will take care of itself eventually through updates, but the offhand? I think it's time for an updated THF knife.

Get on it SE. O_o

[Rustic]

The Mainhand will take care of itself eventually through updates, but the offhand? I think it's time for an updated THF knife.

Get on it SE. O_o

I've said this before- the only result of an updated Thief's Knife will be people insisting we dual wield it with the original for maximum TH NEED BEST DROPS LOL.

What we really need is something with Latent: Treasure Hunter +2- and the activation is "doesn't have Thief's Knife equipped or in their inventory".

[Karbuncle]

I'd direct you to my THF knifes replacement thread, but, I get tired of rebooting it knowing SE will never acknowledge or improve that weapon, and think we'll just stop offhanding it for the sacrifice in 1 TH... lol.. They know their player base totally amirite.

Solo, Sure, in a party? we're fked.

[Sarick]

I've said this before- the only result of an updated Thief's Knife will be people insisting we dual wield it with the original for maximum TH NEED BEST DROPS LOL.

What we really need is something with Latent: Treasure Hunter +2- and the activation is "doesn't have Thief's Knife equipped or in their inventory".

You guys should be supporting this (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/33586-Trials-of-the-Magians-and-casual-players.?p=433389&viewfull=1#post433389) topic. I'm sure a good trial alternative would open up if they would make it available.

[Nebo]

I would say Thief (and by extension, Thief's knife) is the last thing on SE's priority list....but neither doing anything to save the Thief job nor adjusting the shitty Thief's knife that it is forced to wield for max TH are even on the list.

Edit: And even if Thief WERE somewhere on the list to be adjusted, thief's knife is really the last thing I'd wan them to spend development resources on. I don't even use Thief's knife any more

Imo, Thief faces several more fundamental issues that NEED attention if ever the job will warrant a party slot again.