Mog Bonanza is Back!

[Okipuit]

Greetings everyone!

We have been busy discussing Mog Bonanza between the three regions, coordinating with each region’s legal department, and we have finally come to the point where we will be able to implement a Mog Bonanza that is very similar to the original format.

However, there are some aspects that we need to change in-game which will push back the schedule a tiny bit, but we’ve begun coordinating with the development team to kick off Mog Bonanza in late-January/early-February.

Once we know the specific schedule and the content we will be sure to let you know!

Also, if you have any suggestions or ideas for items you would like to have in the Mog Bonanza, please let us know. :D (We are planning to add the Archangel weapons and Cat’s Eye back in.)

[Tile]

I would like a incredibly heavy metal plate that is worth the full 1500. A claim slip good for any 1 piece that is from VW. not just the rarest piece from the mob, but even common drops like a pair of Fajin boots if you wanted.

also can we get a new way to earn the Statues, would be great if we could just get AA statues from doing DM, and statues of behemoth from killing behemoth.

[detlef]

More HQ hexed gear, heavy metal/riftcinder/riftdross, cats eye.

Herald's gaiters, speed belt.

For the lower rank prizes, things like the miniature airship or spinet that can't be obtained through normal means.

[Toadie-Odie]

also can we get a new way to earn the Statues, would be great if we could just get AA statues from doing DM, and statues of behemoth from killing behemoth.

This would be so awesome. I recently started setting up a Mog House to look like a museum of event items and unique items to make my son happy. He said the statues look like toys, so I think he would like to see more of them added.

On that note, I would like to see added to the Mog Bonanza the Stuffed Chocobo and I'm sure many people would love to see the Spinet added to the prize list as well.

[Limecat]

I don't know that many people would go for this idea, but what about content unlocks, like automatically having Voidwatch tiers cleared, a completed Runic Key for mid-level prizes, or access to advanced Dynamis zones? You're always hearing about someone who hasn't had the time or can't put together the bodies to clear content like that, so it could at least give them a leg up on accessing the higher bits that people at large are doing regularly.

[Fusionx]

I'd like to see the Nomad Moogle Statue and Odin Statue in Rank 5.

[Prrsha]

More HQ hexed gear, heavy metal/riftcinder/riftdross, cats eye.

Herald's gaiters, speed belt.

For the lower rank prizes, things like the miniature airship or spinet that can't be obtained through normal means.

I agree with the spinet... (they should sell them in the FFXI store again) but the mini airship can still be obtained with gold world passes. What even better way to get new players back in the game then to offer them passes. :3

I just wish there was some way that when a new player made a new character, they could choose from a list of willing players on that server (who wish to partner up with a newbee).


Stuffed Chocobo...

The spinet sold within days... the chocobo sat in the FFXI store for months. The main reason to get the chocobo is the actual real life figurine. It chirps and everything! It is really cute! I wish SE would sell both again (including the tidal talis). I am sure you'd have a few upset players who put down hard earned cash to get those items become available for free. By definition they are collector's items. Just like the mandy items for attending the concert.

As for the statues, they have always been ingame prizes for free (no real life cash involved).

[Phafi]

-make ex versions of the 10,000 dynamis currencies, heavy metal plates, riftdross and riftcinder and have them as rank two prizes with cat's eye just like the level one scrolls when you start the game :D

-level 99 walk of echoes weapons

-level 99 elemental trial weapons

-second cop rings, DM/AN earrings or toa rings

-100->110 crafting mateirals

-Odin II, Limbus II items

-Arch Dynamis boss items

-HQ lv73 and 75 abjuration equipment

-Salvage II pieces

-Nidhogg, King Behemoth, Aspidochelone spawn items

[Tile]

I forgot about Tickets for gear from Legion and Meebles Burrows.

[Znitch]

Mog Bonanza 2011 Eligibility: Only characters for whom 32 days or more have passed since creation can purchase bonanza marbles.

Will this year's bonanza follow a similar rule?

[Alhanelem]

a voucher to instantly complete a HMP trial for a rank 3 prize, voucher to instantly complete a 1st riftdross/riftcinder trial for a rank 2 prize, and a voucher to complete an afterglow trial as a grand prize would be nice.

(rank 1 being the best. please invert it if I goofed here)

[Hercule]

An instant scroll that made the craft skill of your choice to maximum

[Antanias]

Relic Mythic Empyrean 99 (2) as rank 1
Newer level 99 stuffs as rank 2
Older level 99 stuffs as rank 3
???
What would've been considered awesome rank 2, 3, and 4 prizes as rank 5.

[BurnNotice]

This may sound cliché, but how about Platinum/Golden/Silver/Bronze Chocobo Ticket? It can be redeem for the following:

1) Instant upgrade to your existing Relic/Mythic/Empy Weapon. (Afterglow anyone?)

2) Relic/Mythic/Empy Weapon of your choice (Up to level 90 to be fair).

3) Pulse Panoplia of your choice.

4) Super Exclusive BCNM Battle for an exclusive item or Cut Scene.

5) Gil reward, minimum amount: 1 Million; Maximum: 100 Million

6) Exclusive Chocobo Whistle with a Unique chocobo decorated for battle (Or that fancy GM Chocobo from POL.)

7) HQ Salvage, Neo Nyzul Isle, Limbus equipment.

8) Some form of an enchantment item for triple the skill up points per session. (crafting, combat, magic, ect)

9) Ark Angel Items

10) Cat’s eye Item.

[Toadie-Odie]

I just wish there was some way that when a new player made a new character, they could choose from a list of willing players on that server (who wish to partner up with a newbee).

This would be really cool if they could do that.


The spinet sold within days... the chocobo sat in the FFXI store for months. The main reason to get the chocobo is the actual real life figurine. It chirps and everything! It is really cute! I wish SE would sell both again (including the tidal talis). I am sure you'd have a few upset players who put down hard earned cash to get those items become available for free. By definition they are collector's items. Just like the mandy items for attending the concert.

And I understand what you're saying here. I got lucky with the Spinet, but somehow I missed the chocobo item completely. I would have loved to own both the real life item and the in-game item. Although I suppose with my sons running around the real life chocobo item would have suffered from too much loving. >.< lol

[odericko]

Squeeeeeeee!

(Yes I'm a Galka.)

[Edyth]

So we have Cat's Eye at 30,000 alexandrite.

How about we have alexandrite chunks worth 3,000, 300, and 30 alexandrite for other tiers?

Menu name: Vanadium
Item name: Piece of vanadium alexandrite
Description: This exuberant man-made alexandrite was created by lacing corundum with vanadium.
Value: 3,000 alexandrite (because the name is only 2 letters away from Vana'diel).

Menu name: 5CT Alexandrite
Item name: Piece of 5 carat alexandrite
Description: A piece of alexandrite so large that gemologists would doubt its existence even if it were placed before them.
Value: 300 alexandrite

Menu name: 4CT Alexandrite
Item name: Piece of 4 carat alexandrite
Description: This unusually large alexandrite was procured by the first group of MHMU investigators sent to the Ruins of Alzadaal.
Value: 30 alexandrite

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Free Arc Scythe With Every Purchace!

[Prrsha]

Free Arc Scythe With Every Purchace!

An arc weapon guaranteed? That I'd love! :3

[Teraniku]

Free Arc Scythe With Every Purchace!

How about You get a Free AA Weapon (with appropriate AA Transformation) For your Specific race.

[Tile]

How about You get a Free AA Weapon (with appropriate AA Transformation) For your Specific race.

they only made sword (hume) and scythe (taru) though.

[Demon6324236]

No, we will have access to all eventually they said, however the 1st 2 were only those.

[StingRay104]

How about that thing they did for Japans fest, where we buy a tag for $10 and it has a code for instant afterglow r/m/e. Seriously if your gonna offer something that ridiculous once why not rake in the extra money here in the stats, hell i'd pay $50 for an instant afterglow weapon.

[Godofgods]

Since the lwoest rank prize is all i ever get (at best), i want a nomade moogle statue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Grouf]

How about a seperate category for long term players? (This March I celebrate my 10th FFXI anniversary.) In all the times I've entered the Mog Bonanza there was only once that I won something that wasn't rank 5 or nothing. Would be nice to have a category with fewer people to compete against and would also give the FFXI team a chance to show their appreciation to all the people who have walked this 10 year journey with them.

[JackDaniels]

I have a suggestion, maybe make the marbles free. Otherwise I'm not going to waste my money. Sick and tired of blowing a fortune for me and my mule to obtain maybe some tacky statues or a chocobo stable scarf.


How about a seperate category for long term players? (This March I celebrate my 10th FFXI anniversary.) In all the times I've entered the Mog Bonanza there was only once that I won something that wasn't rank 5 or nothing. Would be nice to have a category with fewer people to compete against and would also give the FFXI team a chance to show their appreciation to all the people who have walked this 10 year journey with them.

Or you could just not play.


a voucher to instantly complete a HMP trial for a rank 3 prize, voucher to instantly complete a 1st riftdross/riftcinder trial for a rank 2 prize, and a voucher to complete an afterglow trial as a grand prize would be nice.

I would play if the lowest tier prizes included insta-trial finishers.


I'd like to see the Nomad Moogle Statue and Odin Statue in Rank 5.

Or how about we make all the prizes only statues?

[Jaall]

I have a suggestion, maybe make the marbles free. Otherwise I'm not going to waste my money. Sick and tired of blowing a fortune for me and my mule to obtain maybe some tacky statues or a chocobo stable scarf.



Or you could just not play.



I would play if the lowest tier prizes included insta-trial finishers.



Or how about we make all the prizes only statues?

Lol I think someones a bit of a sore loser... classic example of somebody who wants everything handed to them. I can't imagine you'd say that about lottery in the real world but then maybe you do. If there's 1-10 winners out of millions and it's not you, then tough luck, keep trying or give up but keep it to yourself. Lottery is never free, only a bonus.

[JackDaniels]

Lol I think someones a bit of a sore loser... classic example of somebody who wants everything handed to them. I can't imagine you'd say that about lottery in the real world but then maybe you do. If there's 1-10 winners out of millions and it's not you, then tough luck, keep trying or give up but keep it to yourself. Lottery is never free, only a bonus.

Hardly, it's just disheartening. This is why I don't gamble IRL, but, believe it or not, FFXI is just a game xD

But I will concede to admitting that I am bitter towards this event in general, not a sore loser. The only time I got tier 4, it was a statue on my mule, of prishe, the only furniture he has. (or was it shadow lord on my main, i don't remember)

[Jaall]

Exactly it's only a game lol, 10k for a marble or whatever the cost is, isn't much really and you don't need to take part. All rewards are bonuses, some are nicer than others but none are needed as such. It's disheartening like the lottery is in any case because only a handful of people can win but that's just against all forms of lottery, and you're putting peoples ideas down because of your own bad fortune and bitterness which isn't fair. Some people enjoy these types of events, I know I don't have a real good chance at getting the items but it's nice to know I have the chance and maybe one day I'll win something nice, just nice to hope and for 10k a marble, for the possibility of winning a relic, I'll take those odds!

[Alhanelem]

I have a suggestion, maybe make the marbles free. Otherwise I'm not going to waste my money. Sick and tired of blowing a fortune for me and my mule to obtain maybe some tacky statues or a chocobo stable scarf.are you that broke? it doesn't cost much to play.

besides the gil prizes were based on the gil collected. If it's free, then the gill prizes would be zero.

[Elexia]

Greetings Twin YoshiP!

Items:
-1500 Metal plates.(Not as the grand prize or the almost no-chance of winning rank, somewhere in the middle.)
-AA EV. Sword and Shield

[Kjara]

Festive Moogle items that are impossible to get for new players would also be cool too, maybe as rank 3 or 5.

A few examples:
Tidal Talisman
Moogle Cap
Chocobo Beret
Arpischord

Etc. Recruitment program items like Sol/Lunar cap or Mini-Airship and Timepiece would be cool too, since not everyone can afford a second account to get those. I'm in Italy and MMORPGs are unfortunately not popular in my country, and since 2006 I haven't managed to get a friend recruited to get these things. Give it a thought!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

How about You get a Free AA Weapon (with appropriate AA Transformation) For your Specific race.Only if tradable, people will not be able to get the desired weapon based solely on race. I.e. Only taru would be able to get scythes and scythes only.
How about that thing they did for Japans fest, where we buy a tag for $10 and it has a code for instant afterglow r/m/e. Seriously if your gonna offer something that ridiculous once why not rake in the extra money here in the stats, hell i'd pay $50 for an instant afterglow weapon.As sellable game economoes have shown in the past, something on the level of afterglow would be more like $250.

[Tamarsamar]

Also, if you have any suggestions or ideas for items you would like to have in the Mog Bonanza, please let us know. :D (We are planning to add the Archangel weapons and Cat’s Eye back in.)

Harpsichord. Full stop.

[Minikom]

Also, if you have any suggestions or ideas for items you would like to have in the Mog Bonanza, please let us know. (We are planning to add the Archangel weapons and Cat’s Eye back in.)

Dear SE
Let us delivery to ourself the items like cat's eye please, not much sense to win 1 and just cant use it, thanks

[Glamdring]

so am I to take it that the legal barriers that canned the NA version are no longer considerred barriers?

[Prrsha]

I have a suggestion, maybe make the marbles free. Otherwise I'm not going to waste my money. Sick and tired of blowing a fortune for me and my mule to obtain maybe some tacky statues or a chocobo stable scarf.

A nice purpose the lottery serves is to help (by a very small margin) to remove gil from this otherwise bloated, inflated economy. Count yourself lucky that the dev's haven't factored in the current prices of AH items and have made marbles 100k each. The only reason in not doing so I'd imagine is the fact they would like newer players to take part in the event (which is a good thing).

Offtopic: I wonder if SE will end up sometime in the future, raise hourglass costs for dynamis or other events... or reduce the rate of which gil is obtained from other means. The latter way might be moot as the damage is done already. In FFXIV they have reduced all of the gil that current players possess by a percentage. I don't know if this is the right way to go about things but something has to be done soon or the gap between legit starting players and long time vets will grow even further. Current cluster prices are sort of an odd note now. The rich don't want to spend the time to farm them but the poor are more then willing to do so for the prices they are going at. It's one of the few low level items that sell fast (and have a decent value) and can be obtained with little effort by a low level player.

[JackDaniels]

A nice purpose the lottery serves is to help (by a very small margin) to remove gil from this otherwise bloated, inflated economy. Count yourself lucky that the dev's haven't factored in the current prices of AH items and have made marbles 100k each. The only reason in not doing so I'd imagine is the fact they would like newer players to take part in the event (which is a good thing).

If you have not noticed, everything in the AH costs 4-40k with exception to really rare HQ lv86+ equipment (and mats) which can run for 400k-4M.

New people such as myself (i only have 15 days playtime on this character, my old character is forever lost) are totally effing screwed. I was lucky enough to get a flame gem somehow, idr, (most vets in my ls were surprised themselves), which got me 2.5m in the AH. I bought two pieces of armor, a crummy dagger, and some gobbie bag upgrades. Your perception of how the market in FFXI is now compared to pre-abyssea is a little skewed.

Either way, as analhyme stated, the gil prizes = gil raised/winners. It makes sense to charge for the lottery, but the rewards are pretty laugh worthy when you've spent hundreds of thousands on this lottery over the years only to get statues. Now, if I could vendor statues in for 10-50k each, then I'd be really interested.

[Limecat]

I don't mind the gil, but I do wish there were a way to get your numbers without having to lose 10 slots for a couple months. Or at least shorten the marble buying period to 8-14 days, then announce the winning numbers and put out the prize moogles within two days of the purchase period ending. It would be even better if they could let us do it from a special page in our SE accounts, though they'd probably have to set it up so you can't buy in if you're currently logged into the game(to prevent potential glitches with people trading away all their gil in-game to avoid paying or whatever). No marbles that way, just your numbers on your account.

[Arbole]

so am I to take it that the legal barriers that canned the NA version are no longer considerred barriers?

They were able to do it last time by turning it into a "contest of skill" in the form of answering a simple question. #legalcrap

[Ryanx]

idea's for mog bonanza how about spinnet tidal talisiman harpsicord stuffed chocobo moogle/nomad cap moogle/nomad sheilds moogle club

[MarkovChain]

We need tickets with the augment of our choice on sky abjuration.

[Melons]

Please please please give us more chances for Moogle Suits! Its just not fair I want to look super creepy in a subligar to!

[Khajit]

A heavy Metal castle lovingly and painstakingly made by Camate out of KupoLego brand bricks. Totals up to 1500.
More synth mats for the new abjuration sets as low rank prizes to encourage more crafters to try and make hq.
Make the Empyrian/mythic/relic prizes from the top rank lv 99 or 95 or possibly even with afterglow since lv 90 for a top ranked ticket is just plain a letdown at this stage compared to how the prizes used to be viewed.

For the final two ranks the player recieves a possible Audolin item of extreme rarity to promote the expansion. I'm presuming you dont want to ruin the surprise of what's in store so I guess have the player not be able to select what the item is, have it based on the job they ask the moogle to get it for and then a version update for the items specifically won a a week or so after.

[Khajit]

If you have not noticed, everything in the AH costs 4-40k with exception to really rare HQ lv86+ equipment (and mats) which can run for 400k-4M.

New people such as myself (i only have 15 days playtime on this character, my old character is forever lost) are totally effing screwed. I was lucky enough to get a flame gem somehow, idr, (most vets in my ls were surprised themselves), which got me 2.5m in the AH. I bought two pieces of armor, a crummy dagger, and some gobbie bag upgrades. Your perception of how the market in FFXI is now compared to pre-abyssea is a little skewed.

Either way, as analhyme stated, the gil prizes = gil raised/winners. It makes sense to charge for the lottery, but the rewards are pretty laugh worthy when you've spent hundreds of thousands on this lottery over the years only to get statues. Now, if I could vendor statues in for 10-50k each, then I'd be really interested.

Because there totally isn't rare EX equipment you can get everywhere fairly easily until you get to being capable of attacking things in your abyssea parties. Nope No-siree. Square enix definitely didn't sprinkle basic useful gear all over the place. And they definitely dont give you money for mission completion, basic GOV fights that you should be doing, or any of the random quests spread about that people have been doing since day one. It's totally harder now.
This in the off chance you haven't figured it out already is sarcasm.
The only thing harder nowadays is trying to convert cruor into gil since that would normaly have easily geared up people into decent stuff.

[hiko]

moogle kupon: finish any started trial
augment kupon: trade with an augmented item=>select augment

[Saerun]

Cat's Eye, Old event items that can't be obtained anymore like - Harpsichord or Maestro's Baton, Herald's Gaiters, The top tier of Neo Nyzul gear, Neo Salvage gear, the usual Black Belt items, Maybe even 50 of one of the items needed for the 80 or 85 of an empyrean weapon.

[Concerned4FFxi]

I don't know that many people would go for this idea, but what about content unlocks, like automatically having Voidwatch tiers cleared, a completed Runic Key for mid-level prizes, or access to advanced Dynamis zones? You're always hearing about someone who hasn't had the time or can't put together the bodies to clear content like that, so it could at least give them a leg up on accessing the higher bits that people at large are doing regularly.

at this point i cant see too much bitching if this were done, most have the access to the content. i think this is a great idea

[Lionofjudah]

bring back moogle suits! ppl want a chance to get them again

[Rafien]

Because I'm a sore loser, both my accounts have yet to win anything in any event, I think there should be a special tier for those of us that just can't get lucky. :(

[Toadie-Odie]

After a great deal of thought, I think I would very much like to see crafting torques as part of the prize line-up.

[Twiglet]

An etheral squama to replace the one I spent 6 hours farming just to lose to that stupid synthesis interupted bs >.<

[Umichi]

Whatever you do no tidal talisman! that was a limited edition item that was numbered. if you do, make it a high rank item plox......

[Phogg]

A coupon that raises any craft to it's next limit cap (i.e. max 10 level increase upon use).

That will solve the issue of it being entirely unreasonable to level alchemy beyond 100 because of the terrible recipe options.

[Zhronne]

A coupon that instantly completes a currently active magian trial. Of course put some limit in there, like cannot be used over level 90 trials or something?

[Zane]

Seeing as how Fiat Lux is pretty much an impossibility, I would like it if you could re-add Nocturnus Helm and Nocturnus Mail to the list of items.

[DrDementile]

How about a Scroll of Mage's Ballad 1? #CheeseSandwich

[Preed]

How about anyone who participates gets a statue/figure that represents the server they're on (example: people on Shiva would get a Shiva Figure; people on Bismark would get a Bismark Figure, etc)? >w>

[Zhronne]

How about a Scroll of Mage's Ballad 1? #CheeseSandwich
How about a scroll of Army's Paeon V instead? Can never find people to do the fucking lv75 capped ENMs with >___>

[Rustic]

I'd appreciate a coupon (Kupon? :) )that you could exchange for a spell scroll of choice, the better the prize, the higher level the scroll.

It'd be nice to see Phalanx for less than a million on the AH... :(

[Toadie-Odie]

How about anyone who participates gets a statue/figure that represents the server they're on (example: people on Shiva would get a Shiva Figure; people on Bismark would get a Bismark Figure, etc)? >w>

This would be cool. :)

[DrDementile]

How about a scroll of Army's Paeon V instead? Can never find people to do the fucking lv75 capped ENMs with >___>


It'd be nice to see Phalanx for less than a million on the AH... :(

There's a bunch of scrolls that need to become more accessible. Putting Sneak and Invisible on NPCs are a good sign that the devs may be starting to pay attention.

[Rustic]

There's a bunch of scrolls that need to become more accessible. Putting Sneak and Invisible on NPCs are a good sign that the devs may be starting to pay attention.

Wow. Sneak was easymode to get, considering it dropped off newbie mobs.

Was one of my favorites. Casually club a Yagudo Acolyte or Amethyst Quadav, *bang* Sneak scroll. Invisible didn't show up until mid-20's mobs, on the other hand...the reason Phalanx/Utsu: Ni go for so much is the supply is vastly outdone by demand. Drop em into a brown casket pool someplace like Valkrum Dunes, problem solved. And hey, having all those players roving around obliterating the mobs would make subjob items so much easier to come by...

[DrDementile]

Wow. Sneak was easymode to get, considering it dropped off newbie mobs.
Seriously? You're going to call me out for Sneak being "easymode"? Let me get to my point, then...


Invisible didn't show up until mid-20's mobs, on the other hand...the reason Phalanx/Utsu: Ni go for so much is the supply is vastly outdone by demand.
Remember when the dungeons were revamped for Grounds of Valor? Most of the mobs that dropped Invisible were removed. All the good mid-20s farming spots simply don't exist anymore. It was a huge oversight on the part of the devs and I'm glad they fixed it.

[Rustic]

Seriously? You're going to call me out for Sneak being "easymode"? Let me get to my point, then...

Remember when the dungeons were revamped for Grounds of Valor? Most of the mobs that dropped Invisible were removed. All the good mid-20s farming spots simply don't exist anymore. It was a huge oversight on the part of the devs and I'm glad they fixed it.

*nods* I was just comparing what is reasonable vs. what wasn't. Sneak was newbie area fodder, Invisible was a tougher spell to grab and with the GoV changes, more so- but they didn't change areas like Castle Oztroja or Beaudeaux where the mobs were still there and the spells still available. It's still possible to this day to go there and whack a mob for your spell.

Stuff that's dropping off lower level BCNMs only, however....ouch ouch ouch. That's a matter of lower level content that people simply aren't doing much anymore, since the game's gotten increasingly topheavy. Those sorts of spells need to be moved to areas where they're farmable outside BCNMs, whether via adding them to NM drops someplace or a vendor. When it takes finding a trio of people with the seals and the inclination to bother, that's not nearly as common anymore. I agree with you, making spells more available in light of the GoV changes was the right thing to do.

Now, if they'd be so kind as to fix the chest spawns and low-level NM's they left stuck in the middle of L80+ content...was that Moth Axe really so uber you had to surround the chest with IT++ mobs that would make a party seven times your level take it seriously? ^ ^

[Demon6324236]

Seriously? You're going to call me out for Sneak being "easymode"?Anything that involves non-endgame is easymode to everyone here, and that is too most of the time, just a note for later, its why asking for almost any improvement to Abyssea or low levels is met with snarky comments about the game being to easy already.

[DrDementile]

OK, I changed my mind. I want a Kupon that will instantly promote one job to 99. #CheeseSandwich

[Tsukino_Kaji]

OK, I changed my mind. I want a Kupon that will instantly promote one job to 99. #CheeseSandwichOr spend a day in aby...

[Khajit]

This Year's list came out. I and everyone who has seen is is baffled so far.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/mogbon/index.html
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
Pulse cells?
Pulse cells?
PULSE CELLS?
You cant even be bothered to give us the proper item anymore?You have to make it harder to even get the item we actually wanted? That's just ridiculous and cruel and looks as if you're outright mocking and/or taunting your players.
Nq salvage2 bodies are also unimpressive compared to the +1 .
Empyrian Armour as rank 2? Really?
That stuff has been considered easy for over a year. At least drop it down a rank or two. Something that can be done in less than a day does not befit a rank 2 prize.
Ridill and sagasinger are being overranked.
The entire list is just.... If i didn't know any better i'd think you guys tried to make the list bad.

[Zhronne]

I know this is not the first time this happens, but I still don't understand the logic between putting the 10k currency coin on 1st place, together with a kupon that gives you an already completed weapon.
Huh?
Shouldn't currency be put on 2nd place, together with Cat's eye? (i.e. 30k Alex)

Bonanza Kupon EA too looks very out of place, should have been rank 3, no higher than that.

[Kaelthas]

Rank 4 (Last two digits)
Redeyes Bonanza Kupon S (*2)
Bonanza Kupon L (*2) Adamantoise Egg
Wyrm Bears Behemoth Tongue
Odin Statue Mass Chalemie
Prouesse Ring Terminus Earring
Liminus Earring Abdhaljs's Honor
Ark Taichi Ark Tabar
Ark Scythe Ark Saber
Ark Sword

Wyrm Bears anyone?

[Phafi]

it's almost as if.. you didn't actually read any suggestions (not that it's surprising anymore)

edit: alright, serious time, if we can have
http://i.imgur.com/PThSgx3.png and http://i.imgur.com/QQNKGe8.png,
why can't we have an (ex) 10,000 coin as a rank 2 prize? (also maybe self delivery boxable)

edit2: can you provide us with numbers of people that actually select things from upper rank prizes to know why Ridill keeps making it into rank 1?

[Tile]

Looks like the same list we've had for years with only afew VW items thrown in, rank 1 aren't even 99 weapons. Would have loved to see some really new stuff added to this. Overall I'm disapointed.

[Khajit]

I know this is not the first time this happens, but I still don't understand the logic between putting the 10k currency coin on 1st place, together with a kupon that gives you an already completed weapon.
Huh?
Shouldn't currency be put on 2nd place, together with Cat's eye? (i.e. 30k Alex)

Bonanza Kupon EA too looks very out of place, should have been rank 3, no higher than that.

It's because you cant mail the relic/mythic weapons to yourself if a mule wins. At least that way you can turn in the currency to do a decent amount of it instead of being stuck with no weapon at all. I do think it would be nice of those dropped to rank 2 but it is fairly unnecessary as well until they put marrows or something into the bonanza.

[detlef]

Bummer, was hoping for HQ hexed gear in there. Those prizes are very unbalanced and for Rank 1 and 2 there's an obvious choice that you'd be crazy not to choose.

[Jaall]

Some of the items in ranks don't make sense but then free stuff is free, can't really complain at the end of the day. There's at least 1 good piece in every rank and you can only choose 1 anyway. Might not win but then SE don't have to give us anything at all, I'm just happy they've brought the bonanza back in.

[Mefuki]

I'm just going to quote Noodles355 from BG, emphasize mine:


Rank 1 should have cat's eye and HQ ABJ+Honor of choice, and not have ridill/sagasinga.
Rank 2 should have any pulse weapon/armor from voidwatch, all the salvage+1 armor and ALL Nyzul armor, not just the bodies and should not have AF3+2.
Rank 3 should have all the Neo-Salvage armor NQ plan armor, and not just the bodies.
Rank 5 should have the ark weapons.

[raps1355]

Nocturnus mail and helm, a primeval brew for use anywhere, an item worth 1500 plates, auto reraise gear for jobs other than twilight ones, magian trial stage clear item (single) and for rank 5 prizes weapons for each type that all jobs can wear similar to pitchfork.

[Sargent]

Mythic or piece of +2 empryean armour? That's a hard one.

Seriously, the rewards from this are a joke. Rank 1 is fine, but things like Emp Armour, NNI 100 gear, Arise and Meteor should not be in Rank 2 (Meteor is like 2m now, that's nothing).
I agree with the idea of bringing back in Hexed -1 gear, that should be in Rank 2 since -1s are incredibly rare, and if you're gonna put Salvage pieces in there, put the +1 gear in. Nobody cares about the majority of the "new" pieces.

[Seha]

The funny thing about this bonanza is that they asked us what we wanted in it and I can't fathom this completely messed up prize ranking to have come from the playerbase.

[Midorikaze]

Stuffed Chocobo please. =)

And I have never broken 600k on my gil savings. Ever. 2mil to me is a lot ^_^

[Godofgods]

How about anyone who participates gets a statue/figure that represents the server they're on (example: people on Shiva would get a Shiva Figure; people on Bismark would get a Bismark Figure, etc)? >w>

awsome idea, but one problem... i already have an odin statue :(

[Seha]

Valefor statue would be awesome :x

[Tsukino_Kaji]

A rank1 prize empyrean weapon SHOULD NOT, I repeat NOT, be a lvl85. You're giving out the highest tier ranked prizes option as something that can be done cheaply and in under a week. Somethign that has a market value of only a couple million. You have it paired with things that cost 100-160m. The Kumpon EW shouldn't be any higher then a rank 3 prize unless you change the recived weapon to 95.


Arc weapons should be the "door prize." These should never be as inaccessable as you have been making them.

[MarkovChain]

relic are about as easy to do as the level 85 empy anyway. The only hard to obtain item from the rank 1 prize are sagasinger, mythics, D ring I suppose. None of them are useful except if you are a die hard SAM or something. Looking at the rest of the gear for lower rank prize, it's much less appealing, so it seems to me that relic/empy/mythics are the best things to get. The most clever is clearly the mythics though, or a 10,000 coins or gil if you need money to upgrade your empy I guess. Just for completeness I'd pick a glanzfaust. I'm glad they don't give glowing weapons away lol. Anyway I'll recall you all that you won't win anything so don't bother arguing lol.

[Jaberwocky]

Men...I want men from this years Bonanza.

[Tamarsamar]

It's almost as if SE has no concept of game balance . . .

But seriously,

*Kraken club still in Rank 1 (and the reference at the top paragraph to a "Kraken club-caliber" weapon, lol) are antiquated artifacts from a bygone era.
*Putting 10,000 Ancient Curreny pieces and at least level 90 versions of Relic Weapons in the same Rank is a critical faux pas.
*So, what you're telling me is that not even getting Rank 1 in this thing is good enough to get a Pulse Weapon? Pulse Cells at Rank 3 without their corresponding equipment in the Bonanza are a slap in the face of the players.
*Oh, but getting Rank 1 is just barely good enough to get a Sagasinger, huh . . . ?
*All of Rank 3 is disproportionately lackluster this year, actually. I have none of the listed items and would seriously consider the Gil prize if I had the misfortune of winning it.

I love the Mog Bonanza to death, but I mean come on. Where the heck are your competent game designers? Why have they not made the choices at each rank proportionately desirable and difficult to choose between at each rank?

(Oh, and on a more forgivable note, the "Wyrm Bears" item is not the only typo on the Mog Bonanza page--look at the Trial numbers listed for Apocalypse and Mjollnir.)

Oh. But thank you for the ~8-9 Mog Missles this time around, at least. Those are kind of a cool inclusion, I guess. (Better than nothing, anyway.)

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Important dev question.
If you change servers, what happens to your bonanza marbles?

[Tamarsamar]

You know, even if the dev team does turn us a deaf ear and inundate us with patently dumb ideas, at least the community team is listening to us. Not only was the "Wyrm Bears" typo fixed, but so were the Magian Trial numbers. :)

[Dreamcatcher]

Been back a month after being gone for 3-4 years. I've researched the items but not sure if you win, what should you grab in each category?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Important dev question.
If you change servers, what happens to your bonanza marbles?

~Repeated.~

[Kjara]

Really disappointed by this year's prizes list. All I see is trial trial trial weapons weapons weapons. All that stuff is obtainable in game, now with even less time effort than before (I don't have an empy or whatever but, I suppose it's because I never cared enough). Why not add some of those items people can't get in-game anymore like the costume items and furnitures? Seriously, I would've taken a Tidal Talisman over an empy everyday. Not to mention the Spinet.

Oh well... guess I'll be waiting excitedly for my chance at the Galley Kitchen at least.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Important dev question.
If you change servers, what happens to your bonanza marbles?

~Repeated.~Seriously though, peole need to know this.

[Bahamut]

Hey Okipuit, (ITEM ADD SUGGESTION)

This will increase mog sales to record highs like before.

I thought I would throw a suggestion in the mix which will increase sales of balls to unbeleiveable lvls again.

I would like to see an item back in the mix that is equivilent in worth as the old bonanza's "last two" prize - khroma ore, was when it was worth 200k.

I would be able to buy 00-99 ending number balls on ten balls on each of my ten characters which guaranteed a Khroma ore which was at the time worth 200k on auction, which coverd the cost of the balls I bought. I knew I could have a shot at the jackpot and guarentee my money back by taking that ore straight to auction afterwards to get my money back. Which at the time sold in five mins of putting it up on auction.

^^ I havent bought into any bonanzas since then... bring that back and you'll get me gambling like a goblin with a gobbie bag the size of the moon.

I'm 100% positive if you find another (Khroma Ore) type item thats now currently worth 200k as a "last two" prize, people would defiantly buy a ton of these balls again.

[Demon6324236]

Gambling is not gambling when there is no chance at loss, only gain...

[Mirage]

Yet we had an item like that in previous bonanzas. Maybe because this is just a game, and no real values are being handed out?

[Demon6324236]

I would normally agree with you, however, our guild shops need break times for virtual characters to receive 'breaks' for their hard work, even though they still just stand there, because SE wants to make it like real life. Should gambling not be the same as that is what the Bonanza essentially is but in game rather than in real life?

[Caketime]

I would normally agree with you, however, our guild shops need break times for virtual characters to receive 'breaks' for their hard work, even though they still just stand there, because SE wants to make it like real life. Should gambling not be the same as that is what the Bonanza essentially is but in game rather than in real life?

All of the annoying aspects of real life, with none of the conveniences! Genius.

[Demon6324236]

I worded it differently than I should have I suppose, thats how SE is probably looking at it. In my opinion, the event is not expensive, its 20k/character. So really if you don't want to do it, don't, but at most its 400k(if you buy 10 for 20 different characters) for a chance at items worth 100Mil and more. I think that is more fair, the point of gambling is the idea that you can win a ton, or you can lose a small bit. If you lose this, oh well, you lose 20k, but if you win, you win millions worth, or at very least, you win an item of some sort.

[Tamarsamar]

I just want to mention that the Bonanza is back solely because SE triple-checked to make sure that it wasn't legally considered gambling.

[Demon6324236]

Legally, no, but, what is gambling?

Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gambling) has this as the definition of gambling...
"The activity or practice of playing at a game of chance for money or other stakes."

Now, while this is not real money, it is in fact, gambling, because you are playing the game of chance (Mog Bonanza) for money or other in game items. Now because this is all in game and involves no real money, it is not legally gambling, or at least I believe that is why it is allowed. However, it is still gambling in a way.

[Mirage]

It's a bit like playing a game of blackjack where you bet matches instead of real money, and win even more matches if you do well.

[Bahamut]

Hey Okipuit, (ITEM ADD SUGGESTION)

This will increase mog sales to record highs like before.

I thought I would throw a suggestion in the mix which will increase sales of balls to unbeleiveable lvls again.

I would like to see an item back in the mix that is equivilent in worth as the old bonanza's "last two" prize - khroma ore, was when it was worth 200k.

I would be able to buy 00-99 ending number balls on ten balls on each of my ten characters which guaranteed a Khroma ore which was at the time worth 200k on auction, which coverd the cost of the balls I bought. I knew I could have a shot at the jackpot and guarentee my money back by taking that ore straight to auction afterwards to get my money back. Which at the time sold in five mins of putting it up on auction.

^^ I havent bought into any bonanzas since then... bring that back and you'll get me gambling like a goblin with a gobbie bag the size of the moon.

I'm 100% positive if you find another (Khroma Ore) type item thats now currently worth 200k as a "last two" prize, people would defiantly buy a ton of these balls again.

I just also wanted to add, in case you need ammo when you go above the devs heads on this.

"Think of all the 9 more $1 content ID's people would add over this whole one event"

Sure some people would just cancel thier content ID's afterward, but there would be a ton who are lazy and would just keep them or maybe after using the extra content ID's, would just decide to keep them after the event.

Its great fot the jackpot size everyone goes for, and it makes great real life buisness sense.

[Demon6324236]

It's a bit like playing a game of blackjack where you bet matches instead of real money, and win even more matches if you do well.How do you do well at bonanza? Your picking a number between 00000 and 99999 attempting to guess correctly. That involves no skill, no progression, no winning more if you do well, its like the powerball, you spend money on numbers, guess what the winning number is, and if you are lucky you might, just, win.

[Mirage]

That's besides the point. Point is that you're using a different currency than the real world uses.

[Demon6324236]

I know, that is why it not legally gambling, but it is still gambling in game, and for that reason it should act as gambling is, you put down money, you may win, its a matter of luck. The entire idea of having refund items in it seems to contradict the entire idea of gambling in my opinion.

[Bahamut]

I know, that is why it not legally gambling, but it is still gambling in game, and for that reason it should act as gambling is, you put down money, you may win, its a matter of luck. The entire idea of having refund items in it seems to contradict the entire idea of gambling in my opinion.

I think as far as game gambling, Mog Bonanza's type of gambling would be on the lines of lottery, Most lotteries have odds of winning and a pay out rate or percentage of a certain amount, you could think of the 200k "last two" item as a higher payout to lower odds winners. Not everyone will have ten content ID's to do this, so thier odds of getting "last two" would be a higher gamble then someone who has ten IDs. The odds of actually guessing a ball 0-99999 in the exact order, correctly, is astronomical and would be unreasonable for anyone to buy 200k worth of balls without some sort of return comparable to that kind of gil spent. Most lotteries in my state have a 1 in 9 payout to get your dollar back, since this is a video game its very reasonable to say that if you are going to partcipate up to 100 balls, you should get some kind of higher payout given. It boosts the sales of the balls, makes the jackpot higher and gets more people in game involved, gets people buying more content ID's, which is everything you want in a online game event. I just dont see myself ever getting the jackpot, and I wouldn't throw my hard earned gil away at an astronamical chance for no kind of a payout or comparable return for gil spent. If you look at the sales record of balls after Khroma ore was worthless, I would make an educated guess its because of the missing 200k payout on the "last two" payout. So would it be considred gambling still? Yes, all lotteries are still gambling. The 200k payout for "last two" would just be considred a higher payout. If that wouldnt be enough to convince you that the pay out is ok, then call it a customer content ID loyalty/Vetren's reward lol.

As far as bonanza being considered gambling, its not considered real "legal" gambling according to u.s. law, since this is a video game, and does not involve real money, so it would not be regulated by u.s. government. However though, other countries such as England have crazy government laws that even regulate anything that might look like gambling or sweepstakes in a game even if its virtual payouts. For example, when I played legends of norrath card games, they had tournaments every month and payed out virtual cards for it, but legally they could not pay out the cards to people of certain countries because it was looked at as a sweepstakes/gambling in those other countries government laws. Since Final Fantasy is holding something that is resembling a sweepstakes, they have to make sure that other countries are ok with it, since its a global game.

This is what the payout would look like if they added a 200k item as "Last two", when put into this context it should seem very reasonable to have this kind of payout given the risk to players who own less then 10 content ID are taking.

1 content ID - 10 balls - 20k spent - 10% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
2 content ID - 20 balls - 40k spent - 20% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
3 content ID - 30 balls - 60k spent - 30% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
4 content ID - 40 balls - 80k spent - 40% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
5 content ID - 50 balls - 100k spent - 50% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
6 content ID - 60 balls - 120k spent - 60% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
7 content ID - 70 balls - 140k spent - 70% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
8 content ID - 80 balls - 160k spent - 80% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
9 content ID - 90 balls - 180k spent - 90% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
10 content ID - 100 balls - 200k spent - 100% chance to win 200k item or jackpot
11 content ID - 110 balls - 220k spent - 200k item + 10% chance to win another 200k item or jackpot
12 content ID - 120 balls - 240k spent - 200k item + 20% chance to win another 200k item or jackpot
13 content ID - 130 balls - 260k spent - 200k item + 30% chance to win another 200k item or jackpot
14 content ID - 140 balls - 280k spent - 200k item + 40% chance to win another 200k item or jackpot
15 content ID - 150 balls - 300k spent - 200k item + 50% chance to win another 200k item or jackpot
16 content ID - 160 balls - 320k spent - 200k item + 60% chance to win another 200k item or jackpot

Just think of how big these Jackpots could get if they bought this back.

One last add, to get a jackpot of 100 million per a server, you would need 500 people buying 100 balls per a server.

If 2500 people bought 10 balls each per a server, the jackpot would only hit 50 million.

What kind of payout scale might you suggest?

I think what FFXI rep is saying is they are looking for suggestions on what type of items, which would probably suggest they are looking at making mog bonanza more attactive so people to buy more balls, I believe this pay scale would be a ball bonanza getter since its already been proven to work in past mog bonanza's with the Khroma ore item when it was auctionable for 200k.

Since Khroma ore in past bonanzas were so rare , worth 200k, and the imperial wootz ingots they made were used to obtain the best salvage gear, it was in high demand, and sold like hotcakes. If we can find an item that is comparable to the worth of the Khroma ore (200k) as a "last two", we could make Mog Bonanza a huge success again. The problem I see facing this whole bonanza is that we moved away from auctionable end game crafting items like the 200k Khroma ore, to non auctionable end game items such as seals and boss items like voyage coins, etc. So the demand for a replacment item to the item like the previous 200k Khroma ore item in previous mog bonanas, which boosted ball sales to unbelievable lvls, is probably being sought out by Final Fantasy weather they knew about this or not. They need soemthing auctionable other then these seal/coins types of rewards that people feel are not as rare, giving the upcoming expansion, or worth 0 gil on the auction house.

I would suggest also that with this expansion coming up, people are really unsure about what the best items are going to be, less then a month from now, so investing huge gil into an event that might turn up something thats less vaulable a month from now is hurting the sales of the balls, which is another reason to add a current 200k auctionable item to the "last two" winnings.

I would like to see maybe something like choose your own loot, maybe throw a ton of 10k gil items on a list and say, you can pick 20 of these items or something to that degree, so if your a fishing person, you could maybe pick five halycon rods and ten shrimp lures for winning, ect. What ever it is, it has to be auctionable and worth 200k.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Important dev question.
If you change servers, what happens to your bonanza marbles?So is the staff still AWOL?

[Demon6324236]

By the time you get your answer the bonanza will be over, and it will make little difference anyways.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Important dev question.
If you change servers, what happens to your bonanza marbles?One can't help but be astounded at how time and time again people have actual issues and/or concerns, they go ignored nd unanswered, but then the MODs reply to things like "religion in vana'diel" and "wild chocobos." Where's the accountability for their jobs?

[Sapphire]

One can't help but be astounded at how time and time again people have actual issues and/or concerns, they go ignored nd unanswered, but then the MODs reply to things like "religion in vana'diel" and "wild chocobos." Where's the accountability for their jobs?

I would imagine accountability is WHY some things don't get answered. Reps can't just post willy-nilly, answers that represent the company need to be approved by higher ups, sometimes the company policy is "don't answer questions about [blank]" - rather than give an unpopular response, etc.

I'm not saying it was the case with your marble question (though since they are items that can't be traded, AH'd, or delivered, I never saw a reason why a transfer would affect them), but I've had friends who were official company reps on forums. I watched them sigh at question they were forbidden from touching, not to mention odd half-answers that were the official line. And in one case, I wasn't a rep, but people knew who I worked for - and I almost got into HUGE trouble over a post that you would read and think "who gives a crap!"

It's a job with lots of restrictions and pitfalls and what amounts to an impossible-to-please user base.

[Okipuit]

Important dev question.
If you change servers, what happens to your bonanza marbles?

The marbles you purchased for this year's event will be just fine and work as normal.

Just as a reminder, since we do sometimes get inquiries about it, marbles purchased from previous Mog Bonanzas will not be valid.

[Babekeke]

The marbles you purchased for this year's event will be just fine and work as normal.

Just as a reminder, since we do sometimes get inquiries about it, marbles purchased from previous Mog Bonanzas will not be valid.

Who in Vana'diel has enough inv space to hold on to old marbles?!?!

[FrankReynolds]

Who in Vana'diel has enough inv space to hold on to old marbles?!?!

I have a friend who pretty much only logs in for this event. He buys boatloads of the things, logs in later to see if he won anything good and then never plays again...

He doesn't play at all anymore, but he seems to hope that a relic will fall in his lap one day.

[Vold]

I forgot about this. I remembered on feb 23 then I forgot until just now. I think when I read about it being practically the same ole MB with marbles involved kind of broke my interest. Maybe a missed opportunity will lead to mythic riches next time around.

But anyway best of luck to everyone! And remember the 237th Rule of Goblin Acquisition, "If you don't win the mog bonanza, bribe winners out of their shinies!"

Speaking of which, I need to get to work on some crafting :cool:

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The marbles you purchased for this year's event will be just fine and work as normal.Thank you for the reply.

[Seha]

Although I'm afraid I already know the answer: could you confirm if the rank 3 cells are x5(so actually worth a weapon) or x1?

I need to hear it from them ._.

[Demon6324236]

Although I'm afraid I already know the answer: could you confirm if the rank 3 cells are x5(so actually worth a weapon) or x1?

I need to hear it from them ._.Its SE, I am sure we sadly already know the answer.