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Arkista
11-17-2012, 12:23 AM
Just had an idea ever since the update with chocobo blinkers nerf VW on my server has died down alot. I see less and less and it's taking longer to fill spots because chocobo blinkers was alot of people's main source of gil, Yes RMT'S mainly but others would do it to off set the cost of having to buy Voiddust or Rub Cells and for others it funded relics/emp as well. So unless VW drop rate is fixed VW is going out of style quick and will pretty much be dead like old content. All this stims from the Dev Team saying that we need better gear to be "skilled" in order to win hard content like Legion and NNI which NNI is 90% luck, Anyway
to my idea what if you guys added a NPC we could sell blinkers or w/e cruor item for gil with a nice cruor to gil ratio. You could add a NPC to the game that would only deal with people of a certain rank like rank 10 in any nation or people who have got so far in CoP RoZ ToAu having something like that would not only bring VW back from near death but would also bring some old content back. Yes old content is really easy and can be solod by most jobs but RMT's arent going to do rank missions and add-on's, Hell you can add the npc to the past for all I care. The point is VW is dying alot of people still need gear to be better skilled for difficult content. So please Dev Team do something fix drop rate let people be able to give VW gear like Athos away that doesnt have anything to do with 5 cells anything.
Thanks for reading maybe.........

Kristal
11-17-2012, 12:54 AM
You seem to have missed the reason for the blinker fix. It was done to recover the nosediving value of gil by stopping the rampant abuse of a gil fountain.

Yes, RMT used it too, but they weren't selling to the blinkerboys but new players who didn't catch on to the trick yet.

If cruor can be used to revitalize VW I'm all for it, but not through re-enabling a gil fountain.

Luvbunny
11-17-2012, 02:02 AM
Abyssea actually has the best idea, which is like a copy of ToAU/WoTG ideas. EVER. You used the cruor to buy gears from Abyssea content, aka Empyrean basic, augmented weapons, etc. While on ToAU/WoTG you buy gears using points you are getting from completing certain tasks (Assaults, Einherjar, Meeble Burrow). At the end of the day, players wants gears. By making those points earned to redeem gears (be it rare/ex, or just rare but vendor able or can be sold to AH). This will give new players advantage since they dont need gil per se. They just need to do that said content so they can earn point to redeem for future gears.

A lot of the ideas stemmed from ToAU/WoTG and refined with Abyssea pretty much render the gil somewhat useless for gears (unless you are crafter). Most of the decent-good gears you can get from actually doing that said content (abyssea seal farm and plus 2 farm). WoE events. Voidwatch events. Legion and Meeble Burrows. All give you points you can redeem for gears. The only thing you need gil for is ancient currency and ABC. If they make those not sellable then it will solve the problem since this means if you want relic, you go farm, on your own or teaming up. All they have to do is to make it so that you can trade 1:1 the ancient currency to the Goblin, this way you can farm all 3 and trade the ones you need.

They can make it so that you can trade cruor for weakening VW items, or buy cells. This will give cruors some values, solve the gil problems.

Demon6324236
11-17-2012, 02:10 AM
The solution is buy plates with cruor, adds more plates, makes it profitable still, makes everyone happy. Also buyable Dross/Cinder would be nice as well.

Luvbunny
11-17-2012, 02:13 AM
The solution is buy plates with cruor, adds more plates, makes it profitable still, makes everyone happy. Also buyable Dross/Cinder would be nice as well.

This idea as well. You use cruors to buy items you need from the associated events. Or make it that Voidwatch give you 60-80k gill upon completion depending on difficulty.

Demon6324236
11-17-2012, 02:26 AM
Giving you a ton of gil is a bad idea, thats what they are moving away from. Items are bought with other players gil, then traded to NPCs which delete them, it keeps things in balance.

Kincard
11-17-2012, 03:04 AM
Or make it that Voidwatch give you 60-80k gill upon completion depending on difficulty.

Even the story clears only give 50k. Do you have any idea how much gil you'd be getting if you got 50k each time you killed Pil or Akvan or something?

Cruor to plates would not work on the basis that it would just lead us back to the exact same problem. People would cruor burn to get plates this time. It wouldn't cause any more inflation, but it wouldn't solve your lack of VW participation problem.

The only thing I gleamed from that headache-inducing OP is that VW is dying or something, which it definately is not. The three storable sets are harder to gather for, but that was the case even before the blinker nerf because blinkers have little to do with which NMs people prefer to spam (Well, they do, its just that the high-yield cruor bosses have the better drops and the metal pouches anyway) With a drop rate of 0.5% or less on the gear people actually want still (Pulses), VW is not going to die out until all those people get frustrated and quit...oh wait.

I guess it is a bit of a danger, just not for the reason you're stating.

Plasticleg
11-17-2012, 03:24 AM
Looks like you guys need to learn how to make legit gil.

Kincard
11-17-2012, 03:39 AM
Not having any real money troubles here, but I would like to have something to do with all this cruor I have...

And leveling the worthless atmacites doesn't really count. =P

Plasticleg
11-17-2012, 03:43 AM
Not having any real money troubles here, but I would like to have something to do with all this cruor I have...

And leveling the worthless atmacites doesn't really count. =P

Capping out on Shinryu gear,
Brewing everything in [A] (and I mean everything),
Buying your cells from an officer,
or (nearly) infinite teleporting around the game.

And you could always trade in your cruor for those gimped returns with your blinkers.

Kincard
11-17-2012, 04:47 PM
Already did the first one, the second one is bottlenecked by how fast I can get KIs (Which you don't get while doing VW), third one I do whenever I actually have AH space, and the fourth one barely costs anything.

And personally, I was never really one to blinker for gil. Unless you use third party programs to automatically get the blinkers from the NPC and then sell them I don't see how anyone could have the patience to flip through those menus over and over just to make chump change. Even if it was only something like a 1:10 ratio, I'd gladly take a streamlined cruor-to-gil interface rather than having to spend hours flipping through menus instead of actually playing the game. How do you people get this much time?

The point is just that cruor outflow is much, much slower than how much of it you get from doing VW, which you seemed to have missed.

Thelona
11-17-2012, 10:10 PM
I was thinking that they could make an Unobtainium cell, where you buy said cell for x cruor to trade as any cell, to guarantee getting one of the unique items whatever VW mob you're after would drop. Perhaps pulse items spawning as only the cells. A general idea anyway.
Just trying to think of a way to revive VW, use cruor, and have a snowball's chance of actually having the dev team actually approve ANYTHING.