Spell recast bug

[Raksha]

Platform: PC
ISP: Bellsouth Fast Access DSL (or AT&T)
Type of Internet Connection: DSL
Internet Connection Speed: 3.0mbps
Date & Time: wednesday november 7, ~7-10pm central standard time
Frequency: approx ~5%-10%
Character Name: Raksha
Race: Hume
World: Lakshmi
Main Job: SCH
Support Job: RDM
Area and Coordinates: Abyssea Konschtat, among the Shadow lizards near the martello
Party or Solo: Solo
NPC Name: N/A
Monster Name: Shadow Lizard

1) Use Alacrity
2) Cast Thunder5

3) Use Alacrity (optional)
4) Attempt to cast thunder5 again
5) Receive "Unable to cast spells at this time" or whichever message, even though the cooldown timer has expired



Basically it looks like occasionally the game thinks your nuke/spell/whatever is still on cooldown, even though it isnt.

[Thoraeon]

Alacrity doesn't make it instant cast, it only cuts casting/recast by 50%.

[Raksha]

I know this, but even after the recast was up it still wouldn't let me cast

[Raksha]

Just verified it happens against Beholders in Abyssea - Tahrongi also. Approx~ 10pm CST using the same steps as in the original post.

[RAIST]

Wonder if it's a glitch against the Fast Cast cap because of /RDM or Atmas? Have you tested it with a different sub-job and with no Fast Cast or other casting reduction gear/Atmas?

Might help them narrow down the problem if one can verify it only happens when the game is running up against situations where the normal Fast Cast cap might be coming into play somehow.

[Raksha]

I dunno if it happens using only fast cast, but I know that using alacrity can cause it.

A guy on BG claims that it happened to him as BLM/SCH too.

also, I wasnt using fast cast atmas, and I doubt i was hitting the recast cap.

/rdm
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[RAIST]

/RDM, and gear had you at 30/15 (cast/recast reductions) effects then Alacrity is trying to add another 50/25--taking you to a calculated 80/40 (30 and 15 over the cast/recast reduction cap I think?). If you were using a Magian Staff it could have pushed the numbers higher for casting or recast, depending on which path it was. The system may not be handling such exceptions properly.

The same thing could have happened with that BLM/SCH--may have had gear/atmas (hello magian staff again?) that was giving a reasonable Fast Cast effect already, then another 50/25 was being ramped up from Alacrity.

Might help them out if someone were to test it with nothing that is already granting any cast/recast reduction. That way, we would know if it is an issue with just Alacrity itself (you would only be at the 50/25 caps), or the manner in which the code is handling the exceptions for when Alacrity pushes the numbers past the natural caps.

[Raksha]

I was doing magian trials, so didnt have the recast from staff.

I was also using relic boots, so alacrity modifier would've been 60% not 50%.

Alacrity recast isnt halved, it's straight up 50/60%

and according to bgwiki:


There is no longer a quantifiable "minimum" recast.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Spell_Recast

Either way i'm sure the dev team can figure it out with the info i've provided.

Also alacrity and fast cast are multiplicative not summed. so it would only result in a ~66% recast reduction.

[RAIST]

either way, it still pushes you past the natural cap, which may be where the problem lies.

Was just trying to help get more info about the problem flowing in the hopes it might speed up the debugging process--10 minutes of documented troubleshooting can make a big difference in the turnaround. Once they know what the culprit is, they can go right into working on a fix.

[Thoraeon]

You should post the time difference between casting. Since you use windower (judging from your signature) you should be able to find the timing down to a second.

[Raksha]

I could do that, but It's fairly obvious when it happens.

I'm sitting there like an idiot while the monster pounds on me and i'm frantically mashing my thunder5 macro for like 30 seconds while nothing is happening.

[Baudle]

Raksha,

We appreciate your bringing this possible glitch to our attention. We are going to forward this to the Development Team for investigation. Please be aware that any updates regarding this will either be posted on PlayOnline (http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml) or on these forums.

Thank you, again, for your time, Raksha. We appreciate your time and wish you well.

Have an excellent day!

~GM Baudle