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Clou777
10-30-2012, 06:27 AM
4th atma for abyssea ;) yes please

Mirage
10-30-2012, 06:40 AM
why? Isn't it easy enough already?

Clou777
10-30-2012, 07:35 AM
just for the fun of it

Camiie
10-30-2012, 08:56 AM
just for the fun of it

Didn't you get the memo from SE? Abyssea was a failure! We should never speak of it again! And fun? Really? What do you think this is, a game?

Mirage
10-30-2012, 09:14 AM
Seriously though, almost all the abyssea content is easily duoed or trioed already. What do you want, to be able to engage Alfard and AFK to watch TV while you auto-kill it?

For fun, you say. Well, that just doesn't sound very fun to me.

svengalis
10-30-2012, 11:18 PM
LOL. That is all I can say about this topic.

Kaup
10-31-2012, 12:00 AM
They have one already, it's called primeval brew.

Taint2
10-31-2012, 12:00 AM
If it cost 100k Cruor to add the 4th I'd be game. Abyssea is dead content, would be fun to troll around with 4 atma and stomp content.

Caketime
10-31-2012, 12:27 AM
Seriously though, almost all the abyssea content is easily duoed or trioed already. What do you want, to be able to engage Alfard and AFK to watch TV while you auto-kill it?

Is there something wrong with wanting that? Alfard's a jerk anyway.

Zagen
10-31-2012, 03:56 AM
If it cost 100k Cruor to add the 4th I'd be game. Abyssea is dead content, would be fun to troll around with 4 atma and stomp content.
Would it even matter if it was 1 million cruor at this point?


Is there something wrong with wanting that? Alfard's a jerk anyway.
Alfard was very nice to my NIN + WHM duo, you sure it's a jerk?

Caketime
10-31-2012, 04:06 AM
Alfard was very nice to my NIN + WHM duo, you sure it's a jerk?

Positive. I employed the same duo to my benefit, he's still a jerk though.

Miiyo
10-31-2012, 04:23 AM
my blm blizzajas for 8k and blizz 5 for 7.5k+ in abyssea. A 4th atma would be nonsense.

Ezikiel
10-31-2012, 07:22 AM
Is there something wrong with wanting that? Alfard's a jerk anyway.


Azdaja is the Jerk

Infidi
10-31-2012, 08:33 AM
my blm blizzajas for 8k and blizz 5 for 7.5k+ in abyssea. A 4th atma would be nonsense.

Omg...drool...think about it though... Hell's Guardian, Beyond, Ultimate, and Minikin? .... Drool..

Kincard
10-31-2012, 05:16 PM
Honestly, saying that it would make it even easier doesn't make a lot of sense to me. A fourth atma wouldn't make it much easier than it already is. I guess it'd make some of the fights go faster though. Most of the stuff I can think of that can actually get you killed in Abyssea is because they're percentage based attacks (throat stabs), doom, or impossibly powerful attacks (???? Needles).

Thing is, I would like them to revisit the whole atma idea again applied in a different way someday. Forcing players to think about which atmas to take (Ex: Taking Earth Wyrm + That one Deelgeed Atma VS Tunga, etc) can actually allow players to think of multiple ways of tackling an NM. It's mostly the difficulty that would need monitoring which was what Abyssea lacked a lot of the time. They gave us a list of something like a hundred atma, and only maybe 20 of them have ever seen any use in one way or another outside of player testing.

Mirage
10-31-2012, 08:06 PM
It would let you equip your three usual DPS atmas as normally, and then you'd still have room for another powerful defensive atma. If your healer can pay even less attention to your hp and status effects than before, that's kind of what the word "easier" means.

Alternatively, if you just went for four dps atmas, where you earlier had to choose between three of aoa, ss, gh and rr, you now no longer need to. You can always get the hp boost of ss, and the agi+counter boost of gh, making you both kill faster and die slower than before.

It wouldn't change the 20 out of 100 atmas issues at all, anyway. The terrible atmas will still be terrible and never used. People would just pick 4 of the 20 good ones at a time instead of 3.

svengalis
10-31-2012, 10:22 PM
The thing is you can already blow through abyssea content and if anything is to hard you just have to brew.

Caliana
10-31-2012, 10:26 PM
Turn atma of the savior into an abyssite. Nice well rounded 4th and reward for doing it all without being totally over done.

Kincard
11-01-2012, 05:39 AM
Turn atma of the savior into an abyssite. Nice well rounded 4th and reward for doing it all without being totally over done.

I really like this idea, actually. Atma of the saviour is a pretty crappy reward for doing all the abyssea stuff. But having as an abyssite would be great.


It wouldn't change the 20 out of 100 atmas issues at all, anyway. The terrible atmas will still be terrible and never used. People would just pick 4 of the 20 good ones at a time instead of 3.

Oh yeah, I wasn't saying this idea would change it, it was just a general statement.

Godofgods
11-01-2012, 06:08 AM
4th atma reward to those that have completed all aby quests, ops. And acquired all abysites and atmas (normal and synthetic). (100% storyline completion up to the release of aby) Might encourage ppl do finish content'

Mirage
11-01-2012, 12:19 PM
Sure why not

Luvbunny
11-02-2012, 11:34 AM
If it cost 100k Cruor to add the 4th I'd be game. Abyssea is dead content, would be fun to troll around with 4 atma and stomp content.

I wish it is a dead content, really truly wish this is the case lol.

JohnGotti
11-02-2012, 11:55 AM
It is dead content, sure you will get the odd person farming a empy or who has leveled up a job and they go farm some new gear, however for the most part it is dead content.

I mean a year ago, gl getting claim in heqets aery, he's just sitting up most days waiting for people etc.