(PC) Personal Computer.

[Krashport]

Post your specs!

Windows XP/32bit
AMD Phenom IIx4 965 3.41GHz
RAM 4G

DTX 9.0c
ATI HD 4670x2
Res: 1920x1080 x (3 Monitors)

[Auriga]

A pet rock! hows that? any good? =p

[HFX7686]

It's black and I put stickers on it.

[Gaspee]

Windows XP/32bit
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300
RAM 8G

NVIDIA GeForce GTX-470

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I forget realy, but 2 years old now.
Intel 3.4g quad extreme
4g of top end corsair RAM
A pair of EVA 8800GTX
Um... something else.
XP 64

[Krashport]

Seeing all these consoles in threads starting to think if I'm the only one on a Personal Computer. ; ;

[Joslyn]

Old HP 2.16g atholon
Windows xp
GF 6600 256mb vid card
2gig ram

It gets the job done

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Seeing all these consoles in threads starting to think if I'm the only one on a Personal Computer. ; ;Most are anti-console threads.

[Zyeriis]

A pet rock! hows that? any good? =p
No! We do that OUTSIDE!

[Krashport]

Most are anti-console threads.

Very true, But its good to see a PC headline up in the Threads not an out dated console. Seems all those console Threads talk about which one is better PS Vs XBOX kinda of bored of it. lol

[jeffanddane]

AlienWare Aurora ALX Desktop
Intel Core i7 970 (3.23GHz/12MB cache)
Windows® 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
2000GB3 SATA II hard drive (7200RPM)
GeForce GTX 580

[Draiman]

My pride and joy:

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
AMD Phenom II x4 955 3.20GHz
x2 ATI Radeon 5770 512MB DDR5 Crossfire
4GB DDR2 1066 (Used to have 8 but 2 sticks went bad on me)
Cooler Master HAF X Full Tower ATX Gaming Case
x3 23' Acer monitors Res:5760x1080
Total Hard drive storage 4TB

[Krashport]

Tsukino_Kaji I noticed your using XP 64bit have you used 32bit w/ 11 and if so is there a different?

[Coldbrand]

MS Windows 7 64-bit
AMD Phenom II X6 1075T
4.0GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A785TD-M EVO (AM3)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Tsukino_Kaji I noticed your using XP 64bit have you used 32bit w/ 11 and if so is there a different?I have 32 on another system, but it's 9 year old crap, so I couldn't tell you.

[Crotin]

I really need to upgrade lol but:

Gateway 6860FX
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6GHz
4 GB RAM
Windows 7 64 bit
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS 512MB
300GB hard drive (1TB External)

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I really need to upgrade lol but:

Gateway 6860FX
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6GHz
4 GB RAM
Windows 7 64 bit
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS 512MB
300GB hard drive (1TB External)lolGateway. They still exist?

[Zyeriis]

lolGateway. They still exist?
This has to be a prank!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

This has to be a prank!That's what I was assuming. Next he'll be saying he has a Compaq.

[Cupofnoodles]

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
AMD Turion II ultra Dual-Core Mobile M600 2.4GHz
4096MB Ram
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, 2807MB

[Nu-Hir]

Main PC:

Athlon II X2 245 2.9Ghz
8GB DDR3 RAM
nVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 1GB (MSI Brand)
500GB HDD
Windows 7 Ultimate N 64 Bit
22" Display 1680x1050

TV PC (which can also play FFXI if needed)
Intel Pentium 4 HT Xtreme 3.0Ghz
1GB DDR RAM
ATI Radeon x1650 AGP
40GB HDD (OS Drive) 250GB HDD (Data)
Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3
37" TV, 1920x1080

Then there's my lowly laptop which can no longer play FFXI as of WotG:

Intel Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
768MB RAM
ATI M7 (Radeon 7500) 16MB
40GB HDD
Windows XP Home Service Pack 3
15" screen 1024x768

[Tsukino_Kaji]

3x PC
2x Laptop
1x Glorified Calculator

[Zyeriis]

That's what I was assuming. Next he'll be saying he has a Compaq.
Now I actually have to scan what people are posting, in search of the dude on a compaq.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Now I actually have to scan what people are posting, in search of the dude on a compaq.
You wouldn't happen to have an older Video card do you? Maybe like an older Nvidia card? SquareEnix originally recommended Nvidia as the card to use for FFXI.

I'm just asking, cause if you could switch Video cards and get the same result then you could completely rule out the video card being the culprit. I've seen Video Cards just not like certain games, sound cards to..well built in. Like Realtek wouldn't work with COD: WaW when it first was released for me til they patched it.

And if you switched Video cards and it did fix your problem, you could then figure out if something is causing it. Like I read disabling things one at a time and such.

If I was you, I'd just want to for sure eliminate the possibility of it being your video card. IIRC the original version of FFXI called for a 256 MB RAM Video Card, (recommended). Even my mom's old Compaq she bought in 2001, (COMPLETE P.O.S. to BTW,) played FFXI without lagging. My brother burnt that computer up playing FFXI and it used an onboard crappy whatever. Probably a 128 MB onboard...if that, with a 1.6 Ghz Pentium 4 and 256 MB of ram.

But, the point is, you shouldn't have this problem with what you are using on this game...not at all. Stuttering happens to weak systems...or systems with conflicts.There's one.

[Zyeriis]

There's one.
It's past tense, doesn't count.

[Gilraen]

My 'PC' is an old Dell Inspiron E1505n (yes, 'n', as in NOT running Windows!).

[Zyeriis]

My 'PC' is an old Dell Inspiron E1505n (yes, 'n', as in NOT running Windows!).
Good Lord.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

My 'PC' is an old Dell Inspiron E1505n (yes, 'n', as in NOT running Windows!).Is that even english?

[Yarly]

I don't even own a computer, they cost too much. I just play FFXI on my PS2.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I don't even own a computer, they cost too much. I just play FFXI on my PS2.You can buy a comp that can run FFXI better then the PS2 for about the price of a PS2.

[Niklz]

My computer:
it's black
makes a whirring noise
has pr0n

[sope]

Athlon II X2 245 @ 2.9Ghz
4GB Corsair DDR3 PC-16000
Radeon HD 5830
250GB Western Digital Caviar SATA II something-or-other
Windows XP with a Win7 install DVD sitting on my desk out of laziness.

[Zyeriis]

I don't even own a computer, they cost too much. I just play FFXI on my PS2.
Where are you posting from then? Or do you not consider a laptop a computer/are using a computer that isn't yours?

Edit: if you're using a phone, get out >:O

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Where are you posting from then? Or do you not consider a laptop a computer/are using a computer that isn't yours?

Edit: if you're using a phone, get out >:OFind a recycled PC shop.
And no, I have a $5k system.

[Zyeriis]

Find a recycled PC shop.
And no, I have a $5k system.
Why'd you quote me? *scratches head*

[Lyndonn]

AMD Phenom x6 1055T (OC 3.6ghz)
ATI Radeon 5850 1gb x2 Crossfired
8GB Corsair Dominators
Asus MB (cant remember Specs on it atm)

Razer Naga Mouse :D

[Tsukino_Kaji]

AMD Phenom x6 1055T (OC 3.6ghz)
ATI Radeon 5850 1gb x2 Crossfired
8GB Corsair Dominators
Asus MB (cant remember Specs on it atm)

Razer Naga Mouse :DOn yeah, that what I have. 4g of Corsair Dominator. I got the 1g sticks over the 2g because thier latency was much better.

[Thegreatmonkey]

i have a inspiron 1420 and am going to upgrade the ram in it soon to 4Gs

I also have an 8ist yr old desktop system that I barely use. Its a P4 with 1G of RAM...that is all I remember about it....

[Alderin]

iMac 27" Intel 3.2 Dual Core
- Mac OS X 10.6.6 / Windows 7
- Intel 3.2Ghz Dual Core
- 27" LED Display
- Radeon HD 4670
- 4Gig Ram

I am going to get flamed now because im a mac boy.

[Mirage]

Win7 64bit Ultimate
Core 2 Quad 9450 (12MB cache, 2.6 GHz, 1333MHz FSB)
Seagate Barracuda 500GB, Barracuda 1.5TB, WD somethingorother 2 TB "green" HDD.
4 GB RAM (recently ordered 4 more)
GTX 460 1GB, slightly OCed.

[Xeth]

-Dual Boot Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate/Linux Ubuntu 64-bit
-Dual Monitor 22" Acer/24" Asus (One used for gaming/internet, the other used for strictly Netflix/PS3)
-i5-750 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz) have yet to overclock
-500GB HDD
-6GB DDR3 RAM
-5770 1GB, have yet to overclock.

[sunako]

win 7 ultimate 64x
AMD Phenom II 955 3.2 base clock (4.1 current clokc on air)
3x 55 inch Samsung 1080p TV's forgot modle # will check later
16 GB DDR3 CAS 7 Gskill 1600
3 x 480 GTX evga
2x 120 gig OCZ vertex SSD in raid
4x 2TB WD Caviar Green from buddy that works at WD

[Sinthetic]

custom made used the Alienware case
windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
24GB of Ram
Nvidia 4-Sli classified MB
Intel core i7 extreme OC at 5.8
4 Nvidia GTX580 in 4-way SLI
all liquid cooled XD

[Laraul]

You can buy a comp that can run FFXI better then the PS2 for about the price of a PS2.

The cost of Windows alone is more than the PS2 hardware...

Also, PCs are troublesome (mostly do to Windows)... the only reason to buy a PC is for other stuff (not so much gaming at the moment). THe PS2 runs the game fine. Migrating to a PC is a lot of work. And you loose the impressive weather effects that looks so much better on the PS2...

I have a MacPro (late 2010 model, dual six core Xeons, for 12 cores/24 threads). And a 27 ISP display. But I use my PS3 for gaming...

[Zyeriis]

The cost of Windows alone is more than the PS2 hardware...

Also, PCs are troublesome (mostly do to Windows)... the only reason to buy a PC is for other stuff (not so much gaming at the moment). THe PS2 runs the game fine. Migrating to a PC is a lot of work. And you loose the impressive weather effects that looks so much better on the PS2...

/sarcasm....?

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I updated my system a bit back in OCT, so lets see...(only listing things that really matter ;p)

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
6gb 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (about to replce this in a month or two)

[Nattack]

cpu: intel i5-750
ram: 4gb corsair
hdd: 1tb western digital
video radeon hd 5670
case: rosewill challenger
mobo: Gigabutt GA-P55-USB3
OS: win7 x64 ultimate, Debian 5
monitor: 2x 23" lg's
psu: seagate 520watt

pc is also a pretty cool popple. the video and ram were cheap installments for a later upgrade. i intend for 16gb ram and i havent decided the vidya yet. plan for an 800 watt PSU as well

[Nattack]

Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
You can buy a comp that can run FFXI better then the PS2 for about the price of a PS2.
The cost of Windows alone is more than the PS2 hardware...

Also, PCs are troublesome (mostly do to Windows)... the only reason to buy a PC is for other stuff (not so much gaming at the moment). THe PS2 runs the game fine. Migrating to a PC is a lot of work. And you loose the impressive weather effects that looks so much better on the PS2...

I have a MacPro (late 2010 model, dual six core Xeons, for 12 cores/24 threads). And a 27 ISP display. But I use my PS3 for gaming...

the ps2 lags and looks horrible. true stuff. ffxi on the pc is vastly superior in every way.

[Glitch]

outdated info deleted

[Nattack]

triple post due to mobile device, i bring examples
pc: http://db.tt/QsKR6H3
ps2: http://i56.tinypic.com/2rqexxf.jpg

much.
much better.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

this is not really a PS2 VS PC debate -.- and yes most know that the PC can blow the PS2, and 360 out of the water on graphics, hell just off the change of resolution alone, but some still prefer to play on PS2. Some the visual does not bother them, and others for convenience factor.

[Glitch]

I like playing my extra account on PS2. I don't have to worry about my controller's batteries dying!

[Nattack]

well thats like, just your OPINION man.
and it is now. i used to think alike, because it was hard to find a pc capable of running ffxi smoothly. that was 7 years ago, its not hard now, it will run better, prettier, and wont lag at a bahamut zerg.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I like playing my extra account on PS2. I don't have to worry about my controller's batteries dying!

same can be said for PS3 and PC, and even 360, not hard to plug your controller in when the batteries start to get low and let them recharge.

[Laraul]

PS2 Picts... http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/1282732/1/PS2_FF%21%21?h=e37718

Old youtube video of a bug w/ the PS2 version (long since resolved)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0npvLOrvsw

Do you have the PS2 version?

Look I normally play the Windows version myself. But saying that the PS2 version looks "horrible" is outrageous.... And the performance shown in the video shows that it runs very well... (though it get's choppy in campaign unless you enable filters).

Windows 7 (non OEM) is $300. Just for the software. You'll need to invest $500-800 or so for the hardware necessary to run it. It's not worth upgrading if you are happy with the PS2 version. I have plenty of friends who play the PS2 version and enjoy it just fine.

[Nattack]

it is entirely worth upgrading, they simply dont knkw what they are missing by keeping with the old.
also where are you getting those prices, because thats mega inflated. you're shopping at the wrong stores.

and i reiterate, the ps2 version looks horrible. especially if you have those stock av cables the system comes with. disgusting pig pixels, a la analog display

[Zyeriis]

PS2 Picts... http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/1282732/1/PS2_FF%21%21?h=e37718

Old youtube video of a bug w/ the PS2 version (long since resolved)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0npvLOrvsw

Do you have the PS2 version?

Look I normally play the Windows version myself. But saying that the PS2 version looks "horrible" is outrageous.... And the performance shown in the video shows that it runs very well... (though it get's choppy in campaign unless you enable filters).

Windows 7 (non OEM) is $300. Just for the software. You'll need to invest $500-800 or so for the hardware necessary to run it. It's not worth upgrading if you are happy with the PS2 version. I have plenty of friends who play the PS2 version and enjoy it just fine.

If you think those don't look horrible (especially when compared to PC or even 360 pics),
{I'm Sorry} {Awful Eye} {Please check it.}

I realize that's relatively insulting but, you are saying stupid things. Calling it like I see it.

[annewandering]

Well my mom, who is 83 years old, has a nicer computer than mine!
emachine from walmart says it all!
nevertheless it runs FFXI nicely.
Lately I have heard strange noises in the thing so am working up to getting a new one.
Anyone have a suggestion for a good place to find a cheap computer that might run FFXIV part time?
I have considered getting a new mb/cpu but emachine is not very friendly that way. Still its a thought.

[Masekase]

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Model System Product Name
System Type x64-based PC

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz, 2668 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
sound card: realtek high definition audio
graphics card: Geforce Gtx 260
Disk drives: blue ray and dvd
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 12.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 12.0 GB
Available Physical Memory 9.75 GB
Total Virtual Memory 24.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 21.7 GB
Page File Space 12.0 GB

Pc Moniter 32" Hdmi

[Barek]

First time poster here, hello! PC player mostly, but I have played the PS2, PC, and 360 versions of this game and I must say, PS2 had the better effects of all the versions. Not to say that the PC or 360 version look bad, but some spell and ability particle effects just look quite different on the PS2. The biggest thing I noticed right away was the PC version's lack of shine on the weapons! Greatswords look so much better with that shine effect on them. :| But in the end the PC's convenience far outweights the extra effects the PS2 has, just wished they did a better job on PC port on effects, 360 version being based off PC version lacks these effects as well. :( Also, a retail Windows 7 copy goes for 200~ nowadays, not 300. Around 99~ for OEM :)

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The cost of Windows alone is more than the PS2 hardware...

Also, PCs are troublesome (mostly do to Windows)... the only reason to buy a PC is for other stuff (not so much gaming at the moment). THe PS2 runs the game fine. Migrating to a PC is a lot of work. And you loose the impressive weather effects that looks so much better on the PS2...

I have a MacPro (late 2010 model, dual six core Xeons, for 12 cores/24 threads). And a 27 ISP display. But I use my PS3 for gaming...You paid for windows?

[Dreamers]

Desktop
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel i7 930 2.8GHz with Corsair H50 cooling pump
6GB ram
Gigabyte - ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Extreme Gamer / Altec Lansing 5.1 speakers
96GB OCZ SSD / 1TB western digital HDD
Samsung 24" 1920x1080 monitor

Laptop
Gateway P-6831FX
Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit (I know, Vista sucks, I am upgrading this soon)
intel Core2 Duo T5450 1.67GHz 512MB GDDR3
3GB ram
NVidia GeForce 8800M GTS
17" 1440x900 display

[DukeDudeston]

Currently:

Intel Core i7 2.4GHz
4GB Ram
Radeon HD 5870 1GB
Windows 7 Home Premo 64-BIT
1TB HDD
Sony Bravia 40" LCD (when I can. LOL) else Acer 19" LCD

And I saw the link someone done for the PS2 screenshots, yeah they look good, but the thing is.. FFXI is a PS2 game initially, that has been ported to the PC and the 360, just the PC / 360 versions have been optimsed to use what is available (like bigger screen res, further draw distance ect...) the overall graphics.. however, won't be that different. they may appear smoother due to the resolution, if you put your PC version to the same res as the PS2, there you have it!

[Glitch]

I'm building a new PC. I know it's not as much of a powerhouse as some posted here, but let me know what you think. Any tips are welcome.

Cooler Master Haf X Case (Huge and lots of cooling space, 3 fans!)
ASUS Crosshair IV Extreme AM3 5x PCIe2.0 x16 (Pretty nice mobo w/ lots of room for future expansion)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition (6 Cores, 3.7GHz; 1.5MB L1 Cache + 3 MB L2 Cache + 6 MB L3 Cache)
16Gb Dual channel DDR3 at 1600 MHz (mobo only supports up to 16Gb but can handle up to 2133 MHz DDR3)
ATI 5830 1Gb 256 bit DDR5 Crossfire Enabled Video Card (will get a second one or maybe two bigger ones later)
250 GB 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache HDD x4 in RAID 0 array - 1TB total (RAID 0 across 4 HDDs for faster overall read/write speed; only used for playing games / stuff that requires speed to increase performance)
2 TB 5400 RPM 64 MB Cache HDD (for storing my hoards of videos, backed-up games, etc.)
Coolmax 950w SLI and Crossfire ready modular PSU (lots of connectors and decent power output)

Not bothering with liquid cooled because unless you are overclocking, air cooling is fine. Plus, if you can't cool the ambient temperature in your reservoir below the ambient temperature of the case it's really no better than air cooled since you can't suck heat away from the components any faster. Water heats up and cools down much slower than air, so immediate efficiency would actually be less than with air cooled, though I'm thinking about building a thermoelectric cooling system eventually... when I can figure out how to sap that much heat out of the case lol.

I welcome all input on the subject, but fair warning - I will debate with you about it. Additional note - I said "debate"; I'm not gonna argue with some jackass who wants to sound smart on a forum.

I've done a great deal of research into these cooling systems. There is no doubt that a liquid cooled system CAN be more efficient than an air cooled system, but my old college physics professor (who is the super-est supergeek I've ever met) agrees that if your ambient temperature in your reservoir is not lower than the surrounding air temperature then you are actually losing heat sinking efficiency at the point of contact. On that note, I'm sure there are other liquid coolants that would have a better heat sinking and dissipating efficiency than water, but I don't think it would be enough to justify the cost of a liquid cooled system vs. the free fans & heat sinks that come with the components unless you were anticipating higher than factory heat levels (i.e. overclocking).

I might look into OC'ing the processor and video cards at a later time, at which point I'll probably move to a liquid cooled system and drill holes in my freezer to store the reservoir in it! :D
I'd love to read some educated discussion about it from the FFXI community, in addition to the hundreds of hours I've been spending reading overclocking forums and stuff lol.

[Nattack]

air cooling is fine - but it pays to at least have a good heat sink, those stock ones that come with the cpu just isnt cutting it

[CrystalWeapon]

Laptop
------------------
Model: Alienware M17x10
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
HDD (RAID): 500 GB
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 2.67 GHz
Memory: 6 GB
Video: Dual ATI Mobility RAdeon HD 4870 (Core Clock 550 MHz / Memory clock 888 MHz / Memory Bandwidth 56.8 GBytes / Memory Size 1024 MB)

[Tsukino_Kaji]

air cooling is fine - but it pays to at least have a good heat sink, those stock ones that come with the cpu just isnt cutting itI'm going to build one of those fish tank computers filled with mineral oil next. That or make one out of a server.
"Well I got 8g of RAM and a 4T HDD. What do you have?"
"1T of RAM and a 100T HDD."
"-_-"

[Mirage]

Depends :p. People did getthe first i7 920s up to 3.5 GHz on stock cooling after all :p.

[Glitch]

I'm going to build one of those fish tank computers filled with mineral oil next. That or make one out of a server.

Be careful with this. Without some pretty extensive circulation and perhaps even active cooling of the tank you will suffer a loss of efficiency as you start creating significant hot spots. Also, pumps that can handle dense liquids such as oils without failing after a year or two can get very expensive. Not arguing that it can be a more effective system, just saying it's not as cut and dry as it would seem.


air cooling is fine - but it pays to at least have a good heat sink, those stock ones that come with the cpu just isnt cutting it

I thought about that also and it's a good point. As long as my ambient temperature doesn't get too high, though, I shouldn't really have to worry about it unless I start OC'ing. At that point I'll probably be looking at alternatives to air cooling anyway.

[Nattack]

i have a really nice one, but it doesnt fit in my case ; ;

[Tsukino_Kaji]

i have a really nice one, but it doesnt fit in my case ; ;I have a realy nice water cooling system for my computer, but the plates were too small for my GPUs so it's just sitting in a box.

[Teraniku]

intel I7 950 Quad core @ 3.04Ghz
6GB Ram
Windows 7 64-bit
nVidia GTX 460

[SHARP-OAK]

WINDOWS 7 /64 BIT
I7 930
ASROCK X58 EXTREME 6GB (SATA 3)*
12 GB OCZ RAM
2X BFG 275 GTX OC
1 TERRA WD HD 6GB (SATA3)*