Voidwatch change to make up for Crour nerf

[Razielrinz]

Since SE decided to change how we use crour I am suggesting a way to let people in VW make make some money since they cannot do it by converting crour. I suggest they add gil to the rewards in a similar amount since that is what it was used for a lot of the time anyway. By adding gil to the reward at least people get something besides 1k-5k garbage drops from it. Also this is pretty RMT free cause they are not gonna waste the time to build characters to do it. Just my 2 cents. Any other ideas?

[Luvbunny]

They had the amazing idea of converting cruor to gil before, with abyssea, and you used to be able to sell abyssea gears to npc. Suddenly you no longer have to buy gills since you can always make some when you want to. Then they turned into a bunch of idiots and I think this new regime is even worse than the old one. We seriously need Yoshi P from FF14 to take over FF11 and give it another go for a realm reborn.

[Mirage]

The same Yoshi-P that recently reduced all gil gained from selling stuff to NPCs by 90%?

Maybe it is just common sense that unlimited gil printers are bad to have in games, I don't know!

[Luvbunny]

That other game was restarted, fresh, as new games. I fail to see your points. We had a great year in 2010-2011. Then the "retarded" adjustments started to appeared in droves. After almost two whole years... seriously, like what, they just finally woke up over there?

[Kristal]

They had the amazing idea of converting cruor to gil before, with abyssea, and you used to be able to sell abyssea gears to npc. Suddenly you no longer have to buy gills since you can always make some when you want to. Then they turned into a bunch of idiots and I think this new regime is even worse than the old one. We seriously need Yoshi P from FF14 to take over FF11 and give it another go for a realm reborn.

When has it ever been a good idea for people to print their own money?
The better way to gain money is through the AH, and sources that create gil out of thin air should be kept to a minimum.
So if you want VW to be part of that, SE needs to fix up crafting so crafters actually wants those VW crafting drops in the first place.

[Mirage]

But fixing crafting would require thinking, and judging by the recent nerfs, SE doesn't like to think.

Nerfing the abilities required for certain events instead of looking at the events themselves to see what's wrong with them is a prime example of choosing the path that requires the least thinking. It is much easier to just nerf an ability than it is to rebalance content.

[Kristal]

Nerfing the abilities required for certain events instead of looking at the events themselves to see what's wrong with them is a prime example of choosing the path that requires the least thinking. It is much easier to just nerf an ability than it is to rebalance content.

If you are talking about nerfing PD/Embrava, SE IS rebalancing content so you are not required to use them.
I wish they did that amount of thinking with RDM, instead of adding new jobs that do what RDM could have done.

[Mirage]

The rebalancing isn't very substantial, though.

[Demon6324236]

If you are talking about nerfing PD/Embrava, SE IS rebalancing content so you are not required to use them.
I wish they did that amount of thinking with RDM, instead of adding new jobs that do what RDM could have done.lol what they did is not rebalancing content, they simply gave mobs less HP, yay, so now I can take down more % of their HP before they rape me with massively overpowered attacks! :D

[Luvbunny]

They actually have a very great idea with cruors. A really amazing idea. Cruor is a currency you keep, and not tradeable which means its a hindrance to gillsellers. What they should do instead is making us able to purchase stuffs with our cruors, example crafting materials, food ingredients, heavy metals, riftcinder,voiddust, ancient currency, alexandrite, brews for Voidwatch, Legion, Meeble burrows etc. By doing that RMT are limited to bazaar and AH, they can't convert cruor to items and hope to sell it fast enough, especially if you are making the prices of high ticketed items (HMP, Riftcinder) at the 200k and up, 1 million cruors for 100 ancient currency, etc. They just need to make the conversion rate at a non abuse-able level and you are limited to only purchase 2 every 24 hours to minimize abuse. Make sure the ingredients items sell to npc at a very low gil exchange rate so that you cannot have another blinkering fiasco. Plus players will need it for endgame events brew which slow down the rate of cruors being used for items.

[Thore]

If you are talking about nerfing PD/Embrava, SE IS rebalancing content so you are not required to use them.
I wish they did that amount of thinking with RDM, instead of adding new jobs that do what RDM could have done.

Yea, lowering the mobs hp by 10% is soooooo gonna balance out these nerfs.

[Demon6324236]

brews for VoidwatchActually have these, just not called Brews & they are better.

[Zeo]

10% less HP but your opponents can STILL obliterate everyone close enough. Unless they WANT fights where only an aegis/ochain PLD can be anywhere near (insert target here) and nothing else but WHM/BLM/SMN/COR/RNG. "Everyone else: you're out of luck!"

[Afania]

That other game was restarted, fresh, as new games. I fail to see your points. We had a great year in 2010-2011. Then the "retarded" adjustments started to appeared in droves. After almost two whole years... seriously, like what, they just finally woke up over there?

In XIV they also nerfed Seals gil NPC sell 1 week after Atomos event, because players are making millions and millions a day converting seals to gil, and the amount of gil flooding to the market is more than SE expected.

Cruor gil just makes bot/12+ account owners more rich and everyone else more poor, why can't you see this?


They had the amazing idea of converting cruor to gil before, with abyssea, and you used to be able to sell abyssea gears to npc. Suddenly you no longer have to buy gills since you can always make some when you want to.

You don't need to buy gil at 75 era too, and ppl still buy gil pre-blinker nerf. Fail to see your point here.



Actually have these, just not called Brews & they are better.

Brews for endgame seriously? What's the point to even playing, grind gears and work harder to play better if you can just brew everything and win naked? A good way to kill the game maybe.



Yea, lowering the mobs hp by 10% is soooooo gonna balance out these nerfs.

Actually now that they also announced new SP abilities and pimped up many jobs, it may not be that bad. If ppl can clear pre-embrava nerf, it should work post nerf if you sing march. The only problem for legion, ever, is still getting 18/18 ally for Mul. Once you 18/18 it shouldn't be much different compare with pre-nerf.

[Silvers]

If you are talking about nerfing PD/Embrava, SE IS rebalancing content so you are not required to use them.
I wish they did that amount of thinking with RDM, instead of adding new jobs that do what RDM could have done.

They are not rebalancing them, SE is nerfing PD and Embrava unjustly because they do not want players to win that way instead of adjusting them within reason. This isn't much different than the Elemental Magic and Souleater on NMs/HNMs, and Modus Veritas nerfs.

-Players bring BLM armies all casting the same element: SE makes it so NM's resist elemental magic went you ust the same element repeatedly in a short period of time (ended CS nuking too).

-Players use DRK Blood Weapon+ Souleater and haste builds to do high levels of dmg: SE 1st reduces the delay reduction cap from 90% to 80%. After defeating the newly adjusted AV, SE makes NM's resist souleater DMG.

-Players form large SCH parties and defeat a few NMs by carefully timing Modus Veritas after using a helix spell, prime potential target AV: SE makes Modus Veritas very inaccurate and made some NMs completely resist it and rendering a merit group worthless.

What SE needs to do is stop just treating the symptoms, and start curing the ailment. In other words, SE needs to stop patching things for quick fixes for much deeper issues over making sound and reasonable adjustments to resolve them. SE still fails to address the underlying issues as to why people are using PD and Embrava. I believe the same could be said with the cruor nerf, I doubt if the overall effect of the change was considered in the scope of their decision. I think it might have been easier to find RMTs cruor farming in Abyssea to ban than to cut off a way to make gil for everyone.

[Demon6324236]

Brews for endgame seriously? What's the point to even playing, grind gears and work harder to play better if you can just brew everything and win naked? A good way to kill the game maybe.I was just saying it basically exists. I mean Voidclusters are basically brews, but more like you can pick how much your drink, full bottle of brew is 5 clusters, and only 1 is like 1/5th of the bottle. Is it the best idea ever? No, but Ill tell ya now some things I want I cant get I would love to brew for so I could actually get the gear...

[Komori]

And SE also hasn't said that the current adjustments are not the only adjustments that are going to be made. All I hear is people relying on their freshly printed money crying. Initially when they came out with "We're just going to change the amount needed for armor" for Neo Nyzul and there was uproar, now they've done more adjustments. They raised the amount of floors you can jump, and have reduced the confirmation time on lamps. Just chill out for a while.

[Afania]

I was just saying it basically exists. I mean Voidclusters are basically brews, but more like you can pick how much your drink, full bottle of brew is 5 clusters, and only 1 is like 1/5th of the bottle. Is it the best idea ever? No, but Ill tell ya now some things I want I cant get I would love to brew for so I could actually get the gear...

VW is piss easy, if you can't get it it only means you're unlucky and it won't drop, that's it. What's the point to play at all if every content is beaten without getting some work on gears?

[Demon6324236]

I'm not talking about brewing VW, and your ignoring what I was even saying to begin with, so not going to bother with fighting with you about it...