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Kuroku
10-21-2012, 10:55 AM
Says around 9 hours left, anyone know what could be causing it to take forever? Or is there 10 years of patching happening? XD

(Downloading doesn't seem to be going slow, the bar on the top below individual items is filling up instantly on the .DAT files, but I guess 24K files is going to take a while...)

Demon6324236
10-21-2012, 11:19 AM
If you just started, and are getting those updates, then yeah, 10 years worth. Also, the add-ons, meaning Abyssea, Kupo, ACP, and ASA, are all downloaded via updates rather than installation.

Teraniku
10-21-2012, 11:20 AM
If it is a fresh install, yeah it's going to take a long time, just due to all the game's updates. Hopefully, once SoA comes out, it will take a lot less time for an update due to a more recent version being on it.

Kuroku
10-21-2012, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the replies.

Yes, I just got the game two days ago, so this must be ten years worth hahaha.

I believe the estimated time remaining is inaccurate, because it's gone down almost two hours in twenty minutes.

Demon6324236
10-21-2012, 12:04 PM
Is that for checking, downloading, or installing files?

Gokku
10-21-2012, 12:05 PM
you would have save time torrent the updates files hosted on BG installing them and dling a much smaller patch.

Kuroku
10-21-2012, 12:34 PM
you would have save time torrent the updates files hosted on BG installing them and dling a much smaller patch.

I really don't like downloading/torrenting anything from places besides the manufacturer. I'm a patient person and don't mind the wait, just wondered if maybe something was wrong since it said 9 hours lol.

Mirage
10-21-2012, 12:56 PM
The patch servers are just not very well set up. Depending on your location in the world, your download speed could be extremely low. Personally, I get the patches at about 5% of my internet connection's max capacity.

Kuroku
10-21-2012, 12:57 PM
I'm from British Columbia, Canadia.

RAIST
10-21-2012, 01:51 PM
Yeah...best I typically get as an average on a long update is just under 1Mb/s on high-speed cable. It wil start above 6Mb/s and bounce all over the place, pausing, shooting through in chunks, pausing. It's all those @#$@#$ little files. SE really should have set the updates up so they downloaded packed files and then kicked off a utility to unpack them.

Compare sending 2000 pictures as a big batch in a folder versus a single ZIP file containing all the JPEG's. Even though they wouldn't likely be compressed in the ZIP file and will still be the same amount of data--it will go in a FRACTION of the time because it won't be stopping every couple of seconds for handshakes/verifications for every single picture in the list.

That is why the torrent or .RAR compilations at the BG forums became so popular. Can download full GB's worth of DAT/ROM files as a single package in no time by comparison to the in-game download.

Mirage
10-21-2012, 01:59 PM
Yeah, I suspect there is a lot of overhead in those patches we get.

A tip for future reference: If you ever need to reinstall the game like on a different computer or after a reinstall, save the ff11 files you have, and copy/paste them over the new FF11 installation after you install that. Then all you need to do is run a file check on the new FF11 installation and the game will most likely work.

Kaisha
10-22-2012, 07:38 AM
POL's patching system is slow because it has you download every, single, file, individually. That and they have a download speed cap last I checked.

Arcon
10-22-2012, 02:38 PM
The main drawback is definitely the speed cap. The individual file downloads are not as big of a drawback as it used to be in the past. Re-establishing a connection with today's optimized server software and generally faster connections has very low latency and will generally take an insignificant amount of time. If you do it over 40k times (as you'll need to do with a clean install) then you'll notice it, but for an average update I doubt it adds more than a minute or two to the total download time.

Waldrich
10-23-2012, 01:23 AM
Says around 9 hours left, anyone know what could be causing it to take forever? Or is there 10 years of patching happening? XD

(Downloading doesn't seem to be going slow, the bar on the top below individual items is filling up instantly on the .DAT files, but I guess 24K files is going to take a while...)

Just make sure to save ROM's folders on a seperated folder so you'll never need to update all again.

Well,Mirage told it before me hehe.


Yeah, I suspect there is a lot of overhead in those patches we get.

A tip for future reference: If you ever need to reinstall the game like on a different computer or after a reinstall, save the ff11 files you have, and copy/paste them over the new FF11 installation after you install that. Then all you need to do is run a file check on the new FF11 installation and the game will most likely work.

yeah, and for some weird reason you still need to download like 1~2k files haha.

Mirage
10-23-2012, 02:10 AM
Depends entirely on how recent your install was. Usually, i end up with less than 50 files that require updating, unless there has been a version update between my old installation's files and when I reinstall it.

RAIST
10-23-2012, 07:49 AM
speed cap? what is this speed cap? If they have one, it's pretty high, as I see mine start off at a minimum of 3Mb/s (sometimes over 6) And no this isn't a perceived speed, I actually track the speed of the connection and it often averages out between 900-1200 kbps in the end on a large update, higher on smaller ones. The initial speeds are in-line with what I often see when downloading other stuff from JP because of the high latency to the servers in general. Each individual file zips down in no time, often spiking above 1Mb/s if it's a larger file....it's the constant verify/handshake crap for each file that bogs down the average throughput.