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Waldrich
10-14-2012, 06:20 AM
Square Enix please add more Heavy Metal, Rift Dross/Cinder drops for certains fights.

Add Heavy Metal to drop list to Hahava, Celaeno, Voidwrought, Lancing Lamorak, Bhishani, Rw Nw Prt M Hrw, Stachysaurus, Gwynn Ap Nudd and Smierc.

Add Rift Dross/Cinder to drop list to Gaunab, Ocythoe and Kalasutrax. (those in special are hard fight and drop only lolRiftsand)

Add Heavy Metal Pouch to drop list to Ig-alima, Botulus Rex, Bismarck, Morta, Beguiling Radiance, Maddening Radiance, Seductive Radiance and Provenance Watcher.

Ninja Edit: My intention wasn't to compare anything... I removed that so the subject will be only adding or not.

Obysuca
10-14-2012, 11:10 PM
Do it before Empyrean Weapon upgrade's cost become mythic's cost when Aht Urghan Area is revamped or when new expansion come out.


Someone is going to bring this up so I might as well.
647 million, just for the 75 mythic. Just saying, that's two, maybe three relic right there. While they're at it, I know they said they won't lower the alex again, but make it drop more frequently or something. I could do an entire salvage run and make maybe ~20 after everyone splits the alex, because come on, no one is going to just give all of it to one person considering their price now. The increase in alex shouldn't have made the price jump from 6k-9k to 16k-19k, on my server, that's ridiculous.

Waldrich
10-15-2012, 01:50 AM
Someone is going to bring this up so I might as well.
647 million, just for the 75 mythic. Just saying, that's two, maybe three relic right there. While they're at it, I know they said they won't lower the alex again, but make it drop more frequently or something. I could do an entire salvage run and make maybe ~20 after everyone splits the alex, because come on, no one is going to just give all of it to one person considering their price now. The increase in alex shouldn't have made the price jump from 6k-9k to 16k-19k, on my server, that's ridiculous.

Tbh, there will be* a new pouch for alexandrite (100~500), that's why I didn't posted anything related to Mythic cause they'll revamp aht urghan area very soon, If Square Enix didn't make anything Empyrean weapons cost will fly to the heaven.

I can't see people doing Qilin for 2 more years. Hell no!.

Kincard
10-15-2012, 02:33 AM
Tbh, there is a new pounch for alexandrite (100~500)

What? No there isn't. Not even on the Test Server.

newmonkey
10-15-2012, 02:45 AM
Might want to add 75-100 mil on those relics prices if you are going to compare 99 to 99 you silly little mug

Waldrich
10-15-2012, 03:04 AM
Might want to add 75-100 mil on those relics prices if you are going to compare 99 to 99 you silly little mug

VWNM is the bandwagon event... if we don't have a real reason to do VWNM... I hope you can pay 500m for a Empy weapon 99. oops if you can find all items to upgrade of course...

Thank you for the insult.

Waldrich
10-15-2012, 03:05 AM
What? No there isn't. Not even on the Test Server.

There will be... you'll see...

newmonkey
10-15-2012, 03:19 AM
VWNM is the bandwagon event... if we don't have a real reason to do VWNM... I hope you can pay 500m for a Empy weapon 99. oops if you can find all items to upgrade of course...

Man people like you have been saying that since the 99 empys came out people will always do these for plates to sell on.

Same with dynamis people do it for currency to sell on its apples and oranges

Kincard
10-15-2012, 03:25 AM
Thing is, there would be people entering salvage every day to farm alexandrite too, if they only removed that ridiculous 3-person requirement. I'm surprised Alexandrites still sell for 20-25k when you consider that fact- by all means, it should actually sell for 3 times that amount if you went in with 3 individuals because you're forced to split it three ways, then, given that the gear is totally obsolete.

(In b4 people working on a mythic come lynch me)

However, I do understand the OP's concern about VW becoming obsolete, because Dynamis farming for bills can at least be done solo, whereas VW requires groups. Still, most people that spam Qilin only do it to make gil, so if anything adding a large amount of plates to anywhere other than VW is what will kill VW at this point, lol.

I actually like OP's ideas for where to add plates to though, despite disagreeing it'll prevent the plateocolypse he so fears- they're pretty logical in their placement, and it'll increase circulation of plates without adding so many that the price on them crashes. It'll encourage a larger variety of VW runs more often rather than just Qilin all every, every day.

Luvbunny
10-15-2012, 05:43 AM
This is great suggestion, I wonder why they are not implementing this to all tier 2-3 and bosses of Voidwatch so that more people will do them and not just one particular one....

Afania
10-15-2012, 09:28 AM
Square Enix please add more Heavy Metal, Rift Dross/Cinder drops for certains fights.

Add Heavy Metal to drop list to Hahava, Celaeno, Voidwrought, Lancing Lamorak, Bhishani, Rw Nw Prt M Hrw, Stachysaurus, Gwynn Ap Nudd and Smierc.

Add Rift Dross/Cinder to drop list to Gaunab, Ocythoe and Kalasutrax. (those in special are hard fight and drop only lolRiftsand)

Add Heavy Metal Pouch to drop list to Ig-alima, Botulus Rex, Bismarck, Morta, Beguiling Radiance, Maddening Radiance, Seductive Radiance and Provenance Watcher.

Ninja Edit: My intention wasn't to compare anything... I removed that so the subject will be only adding or not.

Atm hMP price been dropping bottom low on my server though, and fairly cheap to 95 compare with relic/Mythic, and it's actually cinder that is hard to find.

I'd say Cinder/Alex are biggest problem needs to be fixed.



There will be... you'll see...

Do you work for SE? ;D

Obysuca
10-15-2012, 10:09 AM
There will be... you'll see...
You must be new to XI >.> It's SE, no there won't be lol

Waldrich
10-15-2012, 10:38 AM
Do you work for SE? ;D

Cotton Coin Purse: Randomly yields 5~20 Alexandrite
Linen Coin Purse: Randomly yields 50~99 Alexandrite
(New)Scarlet Coin Purse: 100~500. once my friend is online I'll ask him how he knows lol

detlef
10-15-2012, 10:49 AM
(New)Scarlet Coin Purse: 100~500. once my friend is online I'll ask him how he knows lol
Show me an item in-game that when used produces more than one inventory slot worth of items.

Waldrich
10-15-2012, 10:50 AM
You must be new to XI >.> It's SE, no there won't be lol

You must be new to XI, Jp always knows everything :) inb4 JUST KIDDING.

Waldrich
10-15-2012, 10:53 AM
Show me an item in-game that when used produces more than one inventory slot worth of items.

I don't know either, Thankfully SE is dropping PS2 support :) and tbh I hope it's true it was dat mined or smth like that, My friend just made a mythic and was crying about this new pouch lol so I hope it's really really true lol

Demon6324236
10-15-2012, 11:45 AM
Thankfully SE is dropping PS2 support except for Japan. Corrected that for you.

Llana_Virren
10-15-2012, 07:38 PM
Show me an item in-game that when used produces more than one inventory slot worth of items.

For the sake of feeding the trolls:

100-500 = 1-5 stacks of 99 with up to 5 loose coins on the end. However no item to my knowledge has ever done this. Anyone?

Thelona
10-15-2012, 08:31 PM
i remember using an item like that, thought it interesting that it did that. for the life of me i don't remember what it is though...this is going to bug me now.

Waldrich
10-15-2012, 10:35 PM
i remember using an item like that, thought it interesting that it did that. for the life of me i don't remember what it is though...this is going to bug me now.

I remember getting 105 fire works from a gift item from Square Enix.

tyrantsyn
10-16-2012, 02:23 AM
Qilin shouts are in abundant on my server and has had quite the effect on HMP. Atm there's so many of them out there prices have actually fallen below 100k. And basically have made finding riftdross and Cinder's a lot harder to come by.

It would be a nice bonus to see them added to the other mob's to encourage more shout's for those VW fight's. But I'm thinking balance has been obtain atm because of the huge available on plates. And the fact that cinder and dross is harder to come by is probably the way the Dev's would like it to be.

detlef
10-16-2012, 04:26 AM
For the sake of feeding the trolls:

100-500 = 1-5 stacks of 99 with up to 5 loose coins on the end. However no item to my knowledge has ever done this. Anyone?Yes, that's my point. A pouch that could produce more than one stack of alexandrite (which would then occupy more than one inventory spot) could not exist. There's a reason that linen pouches cap at 99.

Also I don't think you know what a troll is.

Demon6324236
10-16-2012, 05:57 AM
Scarlet>Linen>Alexandrites.
Use the Scarlet it gives you 5 Linen, use the 5 Linen, they give you Alexandrites, problem solved.

detlef
10-16-2012, 06:06 AM
Scarlet>Linen>Alexandrites.
Use the Scarlet it gives you 5 Linen, use the 5 Linen, they give you Alexandrites, problem solved.
That's one way to solve it, but my point was more to question the OP's stating as fact that these new pouches would be added to the game.

Demon6324236
10-16-2012, 06:10 AM
Cant say either way personally, I agree it sounds a bit weird but I want to believe it simply because I know between me, my gf, and 2 friends, we have the want to make 4~5 Mythics, and I want to do them, however unless Neo-Salvage drastically changes something, that idea is beyond hopeless.

hiko
10-16-2012, 02:15 PM
Scarlet>Linen>Alexandrites.
Use the Scarlet it gives you 5 Linen, use the 5 Linen, they give you Alexandrites, problem solved.
purse item don't stack...

Arcon
10-16-2012, 02:49 PM
Scarlet>Linen>Alexandrites.
Use the Scarlet it gives you 5 Linen, use the 5 Linen, they give you Alexandrites, problem solved.

No, because linens don't stack, it would still be more than one inventory slot.

Edit: Nevermind, beaten to the punch.

Demon6324236
10-16-2012, 03:24 PM
Could make it so you trade it to a NPC, which then adds 5 Linen to your Treasure Pool, tada.

Kincard
10-16-2012, 07:53 PM
Personally, I think they should make Alex have 100-pieces like ancient currency does, and make the Cat's Eye an item that you can normally obtain through exchange like the 10,000 bills can be.. You need more Alexandrite than total bills to do a relic, so it would be really, really nice if they stacked instead of having to trade them in as you get them.

Waldrich
10-16-2012, 10:30 PM
Sit and Wait. I'll necro bump this thread when they add the pouch. 60 "perfect'500" pouchs for 30mil alexandrites make alot of sense for me due to Mythic's usability/requeriments. Square Enix knows or I hope they knows doing this Mythic' cost will be like Relic/Empyrean cost.

You still need a group to achieve this.
+Reviving Assaults, Old Nyzul Isle and Einherjar all at once.