Full Perle

[Dauntless]

If this is in the wrong section please feel free to move it.

Now I quit FFXI two years ago and am just now getting back into it, and when I saw a Hauberk that was usable by DRGs as well as having Haste on it I freaked and thought it a godsend.

As I've been going around on the forums I noticed many people associating noobs with Perle.

As I'm not quite familiar with much of the new armor, could someone enlighten me as to what bad about Perle? I genuinely do not know and would appreciate if someone would explain.

Thanks.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Perle = DRG
Perle Hauberk > Kirin
PerPLD = n00b
People who think perle is n00b = n00b and need to remember that not evernone can get twilight.

[Alhanelem]

^ not exactly the most helpful post, but basically, the empyrean gear is mostly better for anyone who can equip this set. That's not to say it doesn't make a perfectly good go-between between old gear and empyrean.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Don't listen to the haters..

Full perle is a decent armor set for a new person to wear...

[Ryland]

It's not being a hater when it's true. Fact.

[Dauntless]

Quote deleted by Moderator.

You know.. you almost successfully trolled me. Kudos.

[Alhanelem]

it's not a fact. You need SOMETHING to wear before you get your empyrean. No one can get their whole set of empyrean in an instant, whilst being naked.

[Nvr]

The way I see it is, people tend to wear pearl and jobs that they do not really care about as much as other jobs. For example, I use AF3+2 for my MNK because I love MNK, but if I were to be on BST or another job I am not interested in enough to aquire AF3, then I would usually wear pearl because it is very very easy to get and the full set can go on most DD jobs. I remember when Perle first came out and people thought it was amazing. I think people are just tired of seeing it.

IMO, due to how easy it is to obtain and how many jobs can equip it, Perle is tends to be associated with a lack of effect which in turn is then related to (n00bs). As for the gear itself, it is not that bad of a set, and it is certainly better than most gear people used pre-abyssea.

[Registeel]

Hey, not everyone can just hop in abyssea and get all the empyrean armor +2 right away. Perle is more than fine to use until you have the connections/time to start doing runs for your AF3.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

it's not a fact. You need SOMETHING to wear before you get your empyrean. No one can get their whole set of empyrean in an instant, whilst being naked.I know people who had full +2 for a job that was lvl10, that's pretty instant if you ask me.
Perle vs. Empyrean? A lot of perle peices are better for WS and a lot are better for TP. It's all implementation. And if you're still uning a Kirin to WS over a perle hauberk? Well, I wont say it. The language you get me banned.

[Nvr]

I still love the way Kirin looks lol.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I still love the way Kirin looks lol.True, it dose have that nice togi look. I still use it on RGN and BRD because I haven't bothered getting anything better. lol

[Nepharite]

It really depends on what you have available to you.
Full perle is actually a decent gearset. People tend to symbolize perle with noobs, because it is extremely easy to get and better pieces are out there. (but for a starting set, its usually the best you can get)

DD should always gear towards the haste cap. If full Perle gives you the most haste, then definitely use it.
Upgrade your gear as you can, try for the emperyean +1 pieces first. (now remember if you change out 1 perle piece you lose the set bonus, so therefore dusk gloves > perle w/o set bonus may apply)

PS Full Perle for a pld tp set is acceptable if you have nothing better. I'm surprised at the amount of people that don't know how to gear a tp set and claim to know better.


edit - Always make sure you have a different gear set for tp/ws (some perle pieces can be decent ws pieces too)

[Starcade]

If this is in the wrong section please feel free to move it.

Now I quit FFXI two years ago and am just now getting back into it, and when I saw a Hauberk that was usable by DRGs as well as having Haste on it I freaked and thought it a godsend.

As I've been going around on the forums I noticed many people associating noobs with Perle.

As I'm not quite familiar with much of the new armor, could someone enlighten me as to what bad about Perle? I genuinely do not know and would appreciate if someone would explain.

Thanks.

Because people were (before the stoppage) trying to reestablish the power structure the level cap increase was designed to destroy, and this is one way they tried to do it.

Full (any of the three Cruor-based initial L78 sets) is actually a nice bridge between mid-level L75 gear and the gear in the 80's. Problem is, you've got a lot of people who literally want to see God Gear Incarnate Or GTFO. (Just like when the cap was 75.)

Just another case of that they believe it's their world and everyone (including Square-Enix and thousands/millions of dying Japanese) need to bow to them.

[Darka]

Perle is okay. Was top dog for DRK and DRG at 80 cap, since then it's more than lost most of what made it good. By all means use it if you don't have better options, but if you can get things like higher Haste with other sets, don't for the love of god use Perle just cause it's "free". At the very least, it beats a homam/turban combo.

[Dauntless]

Well yes the Perle set does pale in comparison to most Empy+1/2 sets but are those really THAT easy to get that it makes anyone not sporting those a noob?

[Coldbrand]

Seems like a VERY acceptable stand-in until you start picking up stuff of the Abyssea NMs or filling in your HQ Empyrean Armor.

[Starcade]

Well yes the Perle set does pale in comparison to most Empy+1/2 sets but are those really THAT easy to get that it makes anyone not sporting those a noob?

Many of those who would gladly be a pimp leader to an LS full of marks who believe they're serving their own interests as well as the leaders' (and being fooled) would say it is.

[Cupofnoodles]

Perle is good armor stat wise, but unless you equip it all its not worth it. Because I am working on my AF3 on BST and I have one piece at +1 right now, I just were BST af3 head +1, SH, and some dominion gear (DOMINION GEAR FOR BST IS CRAP).

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Perle is good armor stat wise, but unless you equip it all its not worth it. Because I am working on my AF3 on BST and I have one piece at +1 right now, I just were BST af3 head +1, SH, and some dominion gear (DOMINION GEAR FOR BST IS CRAP).You should go pink instead.

[Nepharite]

Well yes the Perle set does pale in comparison to most Empy+1/2 sets but are those really THAT easy to get that it makes anyone not sporting those a noob?

Perle is good starter equip, but you should really focus on getting empyrean. The seals for +1 aren't really that hard, just takes a few shouts in jeuno if you cant solo them.

[Cupofnoodles]

I just grab Abysea gear now and npc it now.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I just grab Abysea gear now and npc it now.480k cruor = 1.19m gil. ^^

[Cupofnoodles]

480k cruor = 1.19m gil. ^^

Gotta buy those jugs somehow!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Gotta buy those jugs somehow!96 cooking, buying jugs is a dirty word.

[Nepharite]

480k cruor = 1.19m gil. ^^

400k is 2 brews...

[Tsukino_Kaji]

400k is 2 brews...You can't buy things with brews. And shouldn't that be 2.4?

[Cupofnoodles]

But i can buy a shit ton of sheep jugs and some dipper for Dynamis! all bst dynamis. (Yes, Please)

[Tsukino_Kaji]

But i can buy a shit ton of sheep jugs and some dipper for Dynamis! all bst dynamis. (Yes, Please)Just solo it.

[Nepharite]

You can't buy things with brews. And shouldn't that be 2.4?

nope 400k/200k is 2, didn't say 480 lol

Gil has really lost its value lately, I'd rather use 2 brews on NMs in abyssea than have 1mil gil.
Could always sell the drops you don't want for a little gain.

[Darka]

Suck less and kill without brews, sell cruor ??? profit

[Dauntless]

Really? I hear Cruor is rather easy to obtain and getting 2m with 480k would, at the very least, allow my to complete the GobbyBag quests

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Really? I hear Cruor is rather easy to obtain and getting 2m with 480k would, at the very least, allow my to complete the GobbyBag quests1.19 million*

[Cupofnoodles]

do a crour party

[Rambus]

Don't listen to the haters..

Full perle is a decent armor set for a new person to wear...
^this, again I have to type more words to say I agree with the above post.

[Dauntless]

1.19 million*

Ohh you know what I meant =p

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Ohh you know what I meant =pYou don't want to give the skimmers the wrong impression now do you?

[Harukusan]

I tend to associate full perle/aurore/teal users as "noobs" (being the general term for incompetent) because of the lack of effort it takes to obtain these gear sets. It tells me that they either don't care to improve themselves, or they simply display ignorance because someone else told them it was cool. In either of these cases, I don't care what you do personally, it's your choice, but I won't associate myself with you, and that's my choice.

It's not like Empyrean armor is hard to come by. If you have one or two good friends who also want to upgrade armor, you can do pretty much anything Abyssea has to offer if you guys are focused and skilled enough. Seriously. I've got about 8 jobs worth of new armor give or take, some are full sets all blue box, and I obtained these farming mostly with only one friend. You can do it too if you put the effort into it and stop getting babied around all the time.

Salvage has been made much much easier now especially with the 3 person minimum instead of 6. At least Salvage gear looks prettier and still takes some time and effort to obtain. You're likely better off sporting old gear over perle simply because people would respect you more as a player. Unless you were one of those Scorpion Harness sporting DDs.

If you want serious, specific advice on the directions your should take on your priorities, feel free to PM me. I can give you a big list of chores that will get you where you want to go. :)

[Cupofnoodles]

I spent like a couple of days tryin gto get RDM feet and still havent gotten them, i havee all the seal and items to make them +2 already, just no feet

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I spent like a couple of days tryin gto get RDM feet and still havent gotten them, i havee all the seal and items to make them +2 already, just no feetA story I've heard a lot. They may have fixed the drop rates, but they doesn't change the fact that people only XP in 1/3 zones.

[Dauntless]

I tend to associate full perle/aurore/teal users as "noobs" (being the general term for incompetent) because of the lack of effort it takes to obtain these gear sets. It tells me that they either don't care to improve themselves, or they simply display ignorance because someone else told them it was cool. In either of these cases, I don't care what you do personally, it's your choice, but I won't associate myself with you, and that's my choice.

It's not like Empyrean armor is hard to come by. If you have one or two good friends who also want to upgrade armor, you can do pretty much anything Abyssea has to offer if you guys are focused and skilled enough. Seriously. I've got about 8 jobs worth of new armor give or take, some are full sets all blue box, and I obtained these farming mostly with only one friend. You can do it too if you put the effort into it and stop getting babied around all the time.

Salvage has been made much much easier now especially with the 3 person minimum instead of 6. At least Salvage gear looks prettier and still takes some time and effort to obtain. You're likely better off sporting old gear over perle simply because people would respect you more as a player. Unless you were one of those Scorpion Harness sporting DDs.

If you want serious, specific advice on the directions your should take on your priorities, feel free to PM me. I can give you a big list of chores that will get you where you want to go. :)

Hrmm I see no PM function on the forum. ;/

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Hrmm I see no PM function on the forum. ;/It's not that kind of forum.

[Yashii]

Im just going to say this to get it out there, It is Acceptable for DRG and DRK to full perle. ONLY DRG and DRK.

And heres where I justify it. (atleast for DRK)

Unless a DRK has E body and Dusk gloves +1, there is no reason to not full Perle, The only gearset that beats it out is Homam E. Body and Dusk +1 gloves. (Its been parsed somewhere.)

I dont know about you guys, but I dont have the 20m(Ifrit Price) just lying around for Dusk gloves +1.

So. I dont associate Perle with n00b, unless you're doing it on WAR/PLD or anything like that.

JUST LIKE FULL PINK NINs. /rage.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Im just going to say this to get it out there, It is Acceptable for DRG and DRK to full perle. ONLY DRG and DRK.It's ok, I play sam in +72 eva.

[Nacht]

Im just going to say this to get it out there, It is Acceptable for DRG and DRK to full perle. ONLY DRG and DRK.

And heres where I justify it. (atleast for DRK)

Unless a DRK has E body and Dusk gloves +1, there is no reason to not full Perle, The only gearset that beats it out is Homam E. Body and Dusk +1 gloves. (Its been parsed somewhere.)


What kind of shit is this? any set with more haste will beat perle, which is not that hard to do for drg or drk.

Full perle is NOT acceptable if you've put any reasonable effort into getting seals.

[Yashii]

It's ok, I play sam in +72 eva.

Its okay, You gotta evade the rape from the awesome WS damage you do lol.

[Kwate]

The way I see it is, people tend to wear pearl and jobs that they do not really care about as much as other jobs. For example, I use AF3+2 for my MNK because I love MNK, but if I were to be on BST or another job I am not interested in enough to aquire AF3, then I would usually wear pearl because it is very very easy to get and the full set can go on most DD jobs. I remember when Perle first came out and people thought it was amazing. I think people are just tired of seeing it.

IMO, due to how easy it is to obtain and how many jobs can equip it, Perle is tends to be associated with a lack of effect which in turn is then related to (n00bs). As for the gear itself, it is not that bad of a set, and it is certainly better than most gear people used pre-abyssea.

Bingo. you hit the nail on the head.

[Komori]

People have to wear something while getting said seals...don't they?

Aurore, Pearl and Teal don't bother me as long as the person in them isn't asking me what weapon skills or spells are or something.

[Mirage]

What Komori said. Full AF3+1, while not super hard to get, isn't done in a day if you've just started with all the abyssea stuff. There could be a lot of things you have to catch up with, and removing a single piece of the perle set also removes the bonus, so it might not be worth doing while you only have some of the AF pieces, not for TPing anyway.

When I try to find out who is a dumb player or not, I look for stupid gear choices more than which "tier" the armor is of. Full perle, while not optimal, is not a stupid choice. Combat behavior is also a much better to use to identify poor players than if they're wearing bleeding edge gear or not.

[Karbuncle]

My Opinion on Full Perle.

Full Perle should only be considered a "Gateway" Armor, Once you get even 1-2 Pieces of your +1 Empyrean, For most jobs, thats where Full Perle stops becoming useful. You should never be happy or Comfortable in full Perle, It should be "Okay, This is base ground, Now i need to get out of it as soon as possible".

Cause I'm forced to Agree with Nyr, those who generally wear Full Perle/Teal/etc Are generally those who either wear it cause it looks pretty, Or because they heard somewhere it was okay. I do not hate the people who use Full Perle as a Middle-Ground, I however, Dislike those who wear it like its the End-all Armor set of Awesome. Also I hate people who wear Perle Hands over Dusk or just odd things like 4/5 Perle and then Something stupid like a Haub or Askar head. (Which completely negates the idea of what makes full perle decent, the Set Bonus). those people irk me :(

At the least Full Perle isn't as awful as Full Pink.

I can never forgive Full Aurore gear. Its complete crap by even NQ AH Standards. I especially hate Thief's who wear Full Aurore. HTURGHIREUG It rages me so so hard. especially with items like Raparee harness iwfghwiueghwriughwrgu. I've gone and upset myself :(


TL;DR Perle is a Decent Gateway Armor, But try your best to replace it as soon as possible.

[Harpalina]

In either of these cases, I don't care what you do personally, it's your choice, but I won't associate myself with you, and that's my choice.


Mmm...elitist much? I've never worn full Perle, but I still use a few select pieces. I like the philosophy, "Good gear doesn't make a good player good; it makes a good player better." To me, as long you have the knowledge and skill to play your job, and you could be wearing LV 50-60 AF, it doesn't matter to me. With Abyssea, if you have the right Atma, gear could easily be balanced out.

[Karbuncle]

Mmm...elitist much? I've never worn full Perle, but I still use a few select pieces. I like the philosophy, "Good gear doesn't make a good player good; it makes a good player better." To me, as long you have the knowledge and skill to play your job, and you could be wearing LV 50-60 AF, it doesn't matter to me. With Abyssea, if you have the right Atma, gear could easily be balanced out.

That Philosophy is a bit Flawed, Cause I think Being Knowledgeable about how to play your job would mean you're Knowledgeable enough to know how to gear it.

Which is where the guy you quoted gets his from. If a Person doesn't appear to know how to gear their job, the chances of them knowing how to play it are equally as low. Hes not being elitist, He's probably basing his information off past experiences, and i can relate to him.

Whenever I do pick-up alliances, Or shout groups for some things When I'm bored, 9 times out of 10, The people who show up in Full Pink/Perle/Teal get lost, Die, Don't have any Atmas/Cruor Buffs, Don't understand how Weakness triggering works, and are generally not helpful to the alliance and do not understand how to play their jobs, To the point i have to baby-sit them.

Thats not saying properly geared people are always perfect. Its only less likely they will be a hindrance. Its more likely properly geared people will have Superiority Complexes, Which i can deal with for that Event, I simply avoid them for future endeavors.

I Try not to judge people by gear alone, I always give people 1 chance, but the guy you quoted is probably not elitist, Just cautious because of what he may have had to put up with, You should not judge him so harshly as he judges those in perle without knowing his reasons.

[Komori]

I like to judge people based on their stupidity and not gear. I've taken many year-long breaks between the different abyssea areas coming out. And therefore I'm behind. I only have my DNC head and hands to +1 but I'm working on everything else as I'm able. I'm sure when the servers are back up, I'll take a friend and me and him will go out and start seal-hunting so we can do better. But it still takes time.

[Harpalina]

That Philosophy is a bit Flawed, Cause I think Being Knowledgeable about how to play your job would mean you're Knowledgeable enough to know how to gear it.

Which is where the guy you quoted gets his from. If a Person doesn't appear to know how to gear their job, the chances of them knowing how to play it are equally as low. Hes not being elitist, He's probably basing his information off past experiences, and i can relate to him.

Whenever I do pick-up alliances, Or shout groups for some things When I'm bored, 9 times out of 10, The people who show up in Full Pink/Perle/Teal get lost, Die, Don't have any Atmas/Cruor Buffs, Don't understand how Weakness triggering works, and are generally not helpful to the alliance and do not understand how to play their jobs, To the point i have to baby-sit them.

I Won't go as far to stop associating myself with them, I Try not to judge people by gear alone, I always give people 1 chance, but the guy you quoted is probably not elitist, Just cautious because of what he may have had to put up with, You should not judge him so harshly as he judges those in perle without knowing his reasons.

Good point. Maybe it was the way he or she worded that kind of irked me. At any rate, yeah if you do know how to play your job you should know how to gear it properly. Sometimes you don't have all the right avenues as to obtaining uber gear, and I don't think you should crucify someone just because they're wearing full perle/teal/aurore. And as some others have mentioned, full perle isn't the worst one can wear...it's decent. There are better options available, yes. But it's not completely nooby. Or just assumed to be nooby.

[Bhrams]

"Good gear doesn't make a good player good; it makes a good player better."

QFT. Alot of players out there were just in the right place at the right time(espically with Abyssea release). I've always stood by this, and never quick to judge.

[Karbuncle]

Good point. Maybe it was the way he or she worded that kind of irked me. At any rate, yeah if you do know how to play your job you should know how to gear it properly. Sometimes you don't have all the right avenues as to obtaining uber gear, and I don't think you should crucify someone just because they're wearing full perle/teal/aurore. And as some others have mentioned, full perle isn't the worst one can wear...it's decent. There are better options available, yes. But it's not completely nooby. Or just assumed to be nooby.

I Can agree with this.

I think someone whos wearing 3/5 Perle, or 4/5 Perle only to put on something like Askar Head, Haub, or something to akin are much worse than 5/5 Perle players. Cause At least the 5/5 People know the Set bonus is what makes it nice.

So as i said, I can never condemn a player for gear, They always get 1 chance, If it shows that they are generally not knowledgeable I simply avoid them. I will not Call them out, or belittle them, I just make a note to avoid them for future efforts.

[Harpalina]

I Can agree with this.

I think someone whos wearing 3/5 Perle, or 4/5 Perle only to put on something like Askar Head, Haub, or something to akin are much worse than 5/5 Perle players. Cause At least the 5/5 People know the Set bonus is what makes it nice.

So as i said, I can never condemn a player for gear, They always get 1 chance, If it shows that they are generally not knowledgeable I simply avoid them. I will not Call them out, or belittle them, I just make a note to avoid them for future efforts.

lol I'm one of those people that wear 2/5 or 3/5 perle pieces :P Like I stated before, I only use a few select pieces. I macro a couple pieces for WS. And I use a couple pieces for TP on WAR. To get the max haste for my gear that I have available, it's not worth equipping all five pieces.

[Bhrams]

Same with my WAR. Some things just aren't worth giving up, besides a few perle peices aren't bad to use to hold you over until you complete your AF3. Pretty sure hands and feet are the only peices I'm hanging onto.

[Harpalina]

Same with my WAR. Some things just aren't worth giving up, besides a few perle peices aren't bad to use to hold you over until you complete your AF3. Pretty sure hands and feet are the only peices I'm hanging onto.

Perle hands and feet? I use uh...well hands and feet sometimes. Dusk still gives 1% more haste, and I use those latent 3% haste WAR boots...even tho I know I can never keep that latent on for very long so I end up using perle boots more often.

[Karbuncle]

lol I'm one of those people that wear 2/5 or 3/5 perle pieces :P Like I stated before, I only use a few select pieces. I macro a couple pieces for WS. And I use a couple pieces for TP on WAR. To get the max haste for my gear that I have available, it's not worth equipping all five pieces.

I meant full time of course :P

Like say, someone using Perle Head, Haub, Perle Hands, Byakko's, Perle Feet.

When a better set would be Wal/Haub/Dusk/Byako/Perle

Basically I just dislike when people wear Perle Head/Hands without full fet :( When Dusk/W.Turban general produce better results based on the job. (And other gear options available to them).

but again, I wouldn't condemn them for it :P Just be upset at the idea >.>

[Alderin]

As said above -

Pearle is a great bridging set post-75 that is better then a lot of the gear that you probably left the game with. If you care enough about a job - then gear it up past the pearle set.

[Harpalina]

I meant full time of course :P

Like say, someone using Perle Head, Haub, Perle Hands, Byakko's, Perle Feet.

When a better set would be Wal/Haub/Dusk/Byako/Perle

Basically I just dislike when people wear Perle Head/Hands without full fet :( When Dusk/W.Turban general produce better results based on the job. (And other gear options available to them).

but again, I wouldn't condemn them for it :P Just be upset at the idea >.>

Oh God I would never wear perle full time. WS or TP. Not as WAR anyways. I heard DRG does pretty decent from the full set of perle though, but that was just the ffxiclopedia 'what to gear on drg guide'; so not sure how credible the source was. I believe it mentioned that perle wasn't worth equipping at 78 unless you had all five pieces, which sounds like a load of crock to me lol.

[Karbuncle]

Oh God I would never wear perle full time. WS or TP. Not as WAR anyways. I heard DRG does pretty decent from the full set of perle though, but that was just the ffxiclopedia 'what to gear on drg guide'; so not sure how credible the source was. I believe it mentioned that perle wasn't worth equipping at 78 unless you had all five pieces, which sounds like a load of crock to me lol.

I think those "without all 5 pieces" guides are simply for TP Phase. Also, It was at level 80 some of the best armor for DRG/DRK unless you had Dusk+1, because it offered the same haste as a Homam/Wal build, with better over-all Stats.

But once they get certain +1 pieces its not the best. But as a lot have said, its a good Gate-Way armor, But not the end ground :)

[Bhrams]

Perle hands and feet? I use uh...well hands and feet sometimes. Dusk still gives 1% more haste, and I use those latent 3% haste WAR boots...even tho I know I can never keep that latent on for very long so I end up using perle boots more often.

I'm too lazy to un-equip when I move around, lol. I'll take the -1% haste. XD

[Karbuncle]

I'm too lazy to un-equip when I move around, lol. I'll take the -1% haste. XD

Either way Both are replaced with +1 Empyrean Feet :P! Go get em!

[Bhrams]

I know >< It's overdue. WAR is my main as well, so that's pretty fail on my part.

[Harpalina]

Either way Both are replaced with +1 Empyrean Feet :P! Go get em!

Indeed. The WAR AF3 boots are sexy. I need seals and stones though...+2 is realllllly nice...

[Harpalina]

I know >< It's overdue. WAR is my main as well, so that's pretty fail on my part.

If only you were on my server, we should do this together. WAR's my favorite job to play....wait what server ARE you on? lol

[Bhrams]

Currently on Shiva.

[Harpalina]

Currently on Shiva.

Booo. lol.

[Greatguardian]

Some pieces of Perle are not particularly bad, when it comes down to it. The body, for example, is a fairly solid piece for the jobs that can equip it. The full set, as well, is not bad at all for a new player or someone who is new to a heavy-armor job. The only issue I have with the set, personally, is how different people define "Bridge sets".

While it's true that Perle is fine as a bridge set, the problem occurs when people are content with their bridge set and get defensive about it. Wearing low-tier armor is wearing low-tier armor, no matter the circumstance. When people become defensive, and content with full Perle, they lose the brunt of the drive to replace it and get better armor ASAP; which is the primary purpose of bridge armor.

People tend to be very uptight and insecure about their gear. A lot don't like to have their flaws pointed out to them, even if they know that they exist. I know I could definitely improve on some of my own gear sets, and I make strides to do so every time I play. That's why it doesn't bother me when people look at my gimped up NIN and call it gimp. I know it's gimp; sad, but true. I can't defend the fact that it's gimp. It's not "my opinion", or "my way of playing", I just have a pretty bad NIN and I'm probably not going to get around to fixing it up till I've finished my Armageddon and, subsequently, my Kannagi. That definitely does make me a bad NIN, and I'm not in any position to deny it.

The same is true when people wear full Perle. Yeah, it's okay for a new player, but it's bad gear overall. People are going to look at you and, if they tell you you have bad gear, they will be right. The idea isn't to defend full Perle, or rationalize it. The idea is to accept that it is bad gear and put forth a personal effort to get rid of it for better gear. AF3+1 seals can be quested solo if your playtime is minimal, and for those with more playtime, shout groups for Seal NMs are fairly common. In most cases, once you have even 1 piece of AF3+1, full Perle loses most all of its usefulness and you'll be better off mixing and matching it with Dusk Gloves, Walahra Turban, and other such pieces.

[Harpalina]

^ I agree with the above. My BLM set is dreadful... But I still pull tons of hate due to uber Atmas! lol.

[Bhrams]

AF3+1 seals can be quested solo if your playtime is minimal, and for those with more playtime, shout groups for Seal NMs are fairly common. .

This is true, but the drop rate for seals can be a headache, let alone, you may get the wrong type of seal. IMO they should have job related quests for seals if you want to get the proper one accordingly. But, SE is making new quests to obtain seals, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

As for the second half of the statement, it may just be Shiva server, but 90% of shout groups end in fail. At least from what I have experienced it does. I've learned to stray from that path.

[Greatguardian]

This is true, but the drop rate for seals can be a headache, let alone, you may get the wrong type of seal. IMO they should have job related quests for seals if you want to get the proper one accordingly. But, SE is making new quests to obtain seals, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

As for the second half of the statement, it may just be Shiva server, but 90% of shout groups end in fail. At least from what I have experienced it does. I've learned to stray from that path.

I don't participate in shout groups at all, so I wouldn't know. I just figured, since it seemed so popular, that something was coming out of it. Alternatively, solo'ing quests for Abyssites (Merit/Furtherance/Lunar especially) and grabbing the better Atmas in some way would pretty much allow anyone to carry a shout group if they had to.

[Bhrams]

It seems to me most shout groups are people who leeched to 90, have no atma or have no idea how to proc anything.

[Greatguardian]

It seems to me most shout groups are people who leeched to 90, have no atma or have no idea how to proc anything.

Sounds about right for pretty much every shout group ever made since 2003, lol. Honestly, I'd recommend avoiding them like the plague if people had the option, and just go do things with 1-2 friends who can play well. Whenever I do that, though, I get people coming out up in arms about how it's impossible and I'm an elitist etc etc. If shout groups are all someone can find, it's better than sitting in Jeuno and doing nothing. If one does have a couple solid friends with a healthy job combination between them, it's definitely less of a headache to just go that route.

[Alderin]

Agreed again. I stay away from shout groups for the above reasons.

[Bhrams]

Just before I get any hate comments, I'm not trying to sound eliteist, if you wanna leech a job, fine. Just don't do it on a job you have no idea how to play or need the skills for. Can't leech NIN or BLU from 30 to 90 and expect to have the Ninjitsu or Blue Magic skill to do things right. /sigh.

[Alderin]

I also wouldnt go as far to say it's "bad" gear. It is just not ideal in most circumstances.

My DRG was my first high level job. I got to 80, equipped a pearle set then moved onto a different job.

Admittedly my DRG is still in full pearle because I don't find there is a need to upgrade it just yet - since Nin (which is my other main) has a lot more use, and until I am 100% satisfied with my ninja gear - yes I will be a "pearle n00b" when it comes to DRG. Just don't ask me to come as DRG if you are going to whinge :P

That being said, pearle is a decent TP set for the sideline jobs that you use only as a backup / special events & occasions where you need something specific. Sure I would love to eventually gear up DRG but at this stage there truly is no point.

[Sagian]

What about people who don't have Abyssea for one reason or another? How do they do better than Pearle?

[Mirage]

well, if you don't have abyssea, there's not a lot of content where it's critical that you're better than perle either.

[Ladyofdragons]

I'm a firm believer in it doesn't matter what you gear with you can have the best gear in the game and still not be as good as some other players. it's all about skill and how well you play your job.^^

[Sureal]

if you care what other people think about what you wear (to an extent, if your rocking lvl 40 gear on a lvl 90 job, then you need to suck less) you need to reevaluate why you are playing this game, yes it is true that for each job there is a best of the best gear set for every imaginable situation, that being said, just because its not the best of the best, does (notice the spelling on does, not dose, dos,or dus, sorry personal pet peeve) not mean it is not perfectly acceptable

remember, haters gonna hate, even if you do have the best of the best, haters still gonna hate, its in the nature of haters, i welcome them, it means im doing something right, hating me means you jelly, ill take all the haters i can get

[Mirage]

I'm a firm believer in it doesn't matter what you gear with you can have the best gear in the game and still not be as good as some other players. it's all about skill and how well you play your job.^^

You will however perform worse compared to a person of equal player skill, with better gear. The other player needs to be a very poor player for it to make up for the difference between below average gear and "prettygood" gear.

[Siiri]

Im just going to say this to get it out there, It is Acceptable for DRG and DRK to full perle. ONLY DRG and DRK.


This is from a few pages back but don't see anyone explicitly refuted it. Perle may have been good gear at 80 for DRK and DRG, but it is not at 90.

I will speak to DRK since it is one of my 90 jobs. DRK Bale Head +2 is 6% haste, the Bale Body is 2 or 3 % haste (+1 and +2) the Bale hands are 4 and 5% haste (+1 and +2) Owning any of those pieces on drk makes the Perle set pointless. Its not a question of Dusk +1 gloves anymore. Drk Hands especially is an easy duo of a manticore in Altepa, and the body can be quested in one of the most simplistic quests. ( I think i got 5 seals from questing and 5 from a NM in Grauberg) Also owning either ace's hose or ace's mufflers make Perle pointless for DRK.

Perle is fine for someone who just leveled the job, but I would recommend working on the +1 and +2 items. As has been said numerous times, many of the seal NMs are pretty easy now. Seeing a player in full perle I would assume they either don't care about the job or its very recently leveled.

[Bhrams]

Seems like we are circling ourselves here, Perle until +1/+2.

[Harpalina]

What about people who don't have Abyssea for one reason or another? How do they do better than Pearle?

I know this is kind of an archaic term, but: Auction House. lol. If you are referring to the Empyrean armor, then you're SOL. I would then just try and upgrade the normal stuff that's AH-able beyond 78.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I know this is kind of an archaic term, but: Auction House. lol. If you are referring to the Empyrean armor, then you're SOL. I would then just try and upgrade the normal stuff that's AH-able beyond 78.

I know they added a lot of new synergy recipes to the game.. that almost nobody has touched...

I'm sure there are some decent armor sets that aren't listed on wiki.

[Harpalina]

You will however perform worse compared to a person of equal player skill, with better gear. The other player needs to be a very poor player for it to make up for the difference between below average gear and "prettygood" gear.

Thus explaining in further detail on what I posted yesterday about "Good gear doesn't make a good player good; it makes a good player better." You should always strive to be better...unless you're perfectly fine with being complacent. I don't have any +1 or +2 yet, but I'm working on it. I don't use perle body at all...I still like my Hauberk+1.

[Harpalina]

I know they added a lot of new synergy recipes to the game.. that almost nobody has touched...

I'm sure there are some decent armor sets that aren't listed on wiki.

If I'm not mistaken, Grim Cuirass is a synergy item and that body piece is nice.

[Bhrams]

Oh that Grim. Best 1.4m I've spent. /cling

[viion]

I'm wearing Perle and there is nothing you can do about it !!!!!

[Harpalina]

Oh that Grim. Best 1.4m I've spent. /cling

I spent 2 mil on it and it's went way down in price so I resold it. I'll buy it back when it comes down past 500k, but by that time there will be something better to spend on. lol.

And also to add, if you're thinking, "It won't go down that low.", my old LS mate swore up and down that Grim Cuirass wouldn't go down 1.5mil until like June of this year. Yeah. Look at where it's at now. 1mil on Valefor. /facepalm

[Bhrams]

I spent 2 mil on it and it's went way down in price so I resold it. I'll buy it back when it comes down past 500k, but by that time there will be something better to spend on. lol.

And also to add, if you're thinking, "It won't go down that low.", my old LS mate swore up and down that Grim Cuirass wouldn't go down 1.5mil until like June of this year. Yeah. Look at where it's at now. 1mil on Valefor. /facepalm

Even if it goes down, I won't be dissapointed. Amazing peice, glad I have it.

[Auredant]

I tend to associate full perle/aurore/teal users as "noobs" (being the general term for incompetent) because of the lack of effort it takes to obtain these gear sets. It tells me that they either don't care to improve themselves, or they simply display ignorance because someone else told them it was cool. In either of these cases, I don't care what you do personally, it's your choice, but I won't associate myself with you, and that's my choice.

It's not like Empyrean armor is hard to come by. If you have one or two good friends who also want to upgrade armor, you can do pretty much anything Abyssea has to offer if you guys are focused and skilled enough. Seriously. I've got about 8 jobs worth of new armor give or take, some are full sets all blue box, and I obtained these farming mostly with only one friend. You can do it too if you put the effort into it and stop getting babied around all the time.

Salvage has been made much much easier now especially with the 3 person minimum instead of 6. At least Salvage gear looks prettier and still takes some time and effort to obtain. You're likely better off sporting old gear over perle simply because people would respect you more as a player. Unless you were one of those Scorpion Harness sporting DDs.

If you want serious, specific advice on the directions your should take on your priorities, feel free to PM me. I can give you a big list of chores that will get you where you want to go. :)
Nothing wrong with wearing pearl as a bridge...despite this post. Btw, I'm sure they won't lose any sleep that you won't associatte with them. I see self-righteous douchedom is alive and well in FFX1!

[Khajit]

Perle is associated with noobs because there are hordes of people wearing it on the jobs that it isn't the best "bridge" gear for. If you can wear b haidate as an example then the second you put that perle on you're weakening yourself. Byakko has been a soloable job since lv 80 for some people so by lv 90 you are bound to have at least some friends that can help if you're willing to drag your butt to sky.
There are also hordes of noobs that don't bother wearing the full set so not only did they weaken themselves by putting perle on but they didn't even bother to put the last piece on that does something more than whatever sucky piece they decided to wear instead.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Perle is associated with noobs because there are hordes of people wearing it on the jobs that it isn't the best "bridge" gear for. If you can wear b haidate as an example then the second you put that perle on you're weakening yourself. Byakko has been a soloable job since lv 80 for some people so by lv 90 you are bound to have at least some friends that can help if you're willing to drag your butt to sky.
There are also hordes of noobs that don't bother wearing the full set so not only did they weaken themselves by putting perle on but they didn't even bother to put the last piece on that does something more than whatever sucky piece they decided to wear instead.You're talking about getting gear that a lot of people don't have access too compaired to something that is basically free and readily available.

[Auredant]

Sounds about right for pretty much every shout group ever made since 2003, lol. Honestly, I'd recommend avoiding them like the plague if people had the option, and just go do things with 1-2 friends who can play well. Whenever I do that, though, I get people coming out up in arms about how it's impossible and I'm an elitist etc etc. If shout groups are all someone can find, it's better than sitting in Jeuno and doing nothing. If one does have a couple solid friends with a healthy job combination between them, it's definitely less of a headache to just go that route.
I've had success and failure with shout groups. I wouldn't say avoid them...to some it's their only real way of obtaining the gear that makes them "ungimp" in so many people's eyes. Some are just gettin back to the game and learning the abbyssea ropes...others are new to endgame content in general. (not that i'd put seal nms as endgame, but to newish players without 3 lunars and many of the better atma it could seem as such) In the end, I encourage you to try stuff out and not let people dissuade you. Maybe you'll be in a fail group, maybe not. And maybe you'll meet a friend/friends who you can later duo or trio stuff together. This game does promote and reward the more social players so join those shouts. Better than trolling Port jeuno and commenting that "This or that NM can be soloed" while trying to put a shout together. Never understood the need for people to do this. Anyways, have fun!

[Auredant]

Perle is associated with noobs because there are hordes of people wearing it on the jobs that it isn't the best "bridge" gear for. If you can wear b haidate as an example then the second you put that perle on you're weakening yourself. Byakko has been a soloable job since lv 80 for some people so by lv 90 you are bound to have at least some friends that can help if you're willing to drag your butt to sky.
There are also hordes of noobs that don't bother wearing the full set so not only did they weaken themselves by putting perle on but they didn't even bother to put the last piece on that does something more than whatever sucky piece they decided to wear instead.
Byakko has been soloed at 80? By whom?

[Greatguardian]

You're talking about getting gear that a lot of people don't have access too compaired to something that is basically free and readily available.

AF3+2 not being sold by a vendor does not make Perle good gear. It's already been mentioned that it is passable at best for new/returning players. However, it's not something to get comfortable in. It is bad gear. It is better than being naked, but you want to get out of it ASAP. Considering all AF3+1 can be solo'd in Quests if someone doesn't have the playtime to kill the NMs, there's really no reason to advocate Perle.

I shouldn't need to tell anyone wearing Perle that Perle is crap. They should know that it is crap, and be on their way to replace it. I highly doubt anyone, even on BG, would fault players who are actively working on better gear. It's only people who stop, settle with Perle, and decide that it's "good enough for them" that get ragged on.

[Khajit]

Byakko has been soloed at 80? By whom?
Avesta did it at 80 right after the patch as a rdm. Lv 90 nin and some other jobs have killed it solo at this point now as well but it's long and boring imo and easier to just get help.
Because of this if you have any friends it can be easily killed by a DD whm and thf (if memory from what others whom have done so is correct)with any extra people coming along to help if you wish.(preferably in a support role like enfeebling or refresh/buffs to not tpfeed Byakko) Byakko was already killable with 5 at lv 75 so it's no stretch that some decently people with at least a clue at lv 90 can kill it for you. Tbh the hardest part now is getting diorite to drop since despot's aery is gone.


You're talking about getting gear that a lot of people don't have access too compaired to something that is basically free and readily available.

dusk gloves are less than 10k in ah, leveling to 80 or 85 nets enough gil from cruor/dominion notes to buy dusk+1 feet if there isnt some other cheap/easy option to wear, Nyzul isle is ridiculously easy atm and the stp from askar body beats out full perle if they have the same haste as perle when x-hit's are involved, walmart turban is not yet hard to get although you need more gil to buy the coins instead of using IS if unlucky but otherwise it's easy to get, Ace's sabatons is a 100% drop and there are enough people spamming empy from the mob(which just happens to be soloable too) that simply asking if you can have the drop is bound to work eventually, i'll admit homam legs is actually trouble to get thanks to the time restrictions on limbus and that the tonberry for aces hose isn't anything id expect a noob to get easily killed but in the end it means that perle is already beaten if a person has some/any help at all and can be beaten within a days worth of effort.
That same day's worth of effort can also obtain several +1 pieces if people you know wish to focus on putting one at a point to do away with full perle.

[Auredant]

Avesta did it at 80 right after the patch as a rdm. Lv 90 nin and some other jobs have killed it solo at this point now as well but it's long and boring imo and easier to just get help.
Because of this if you have any friends it can be easily killed by a DD whm and thf (if memory from what others whom have done so is correct)with any extra people coming along to help if you wish.(preferably in a support role like enfeebling or refresh/buffs to not tpfeed Byakko) Byakko was already killable with 5 at lv 75 so it's no stretch that some decently people with at least a clue at lv 90 can kill it for you. Tbh the hardest part now is getting diorite to drop since despot's aery is gone.



dusk gloves are less than 10k in ah, leveling to 80 or 85 nets enough gil from cruor/dominion notes to buy dusk+1 feet if there isnt some other cheap/easy option to wear, Nyzul isle is ridiculously easy atm and the stp from askar body beats out full perle if they have the same haste as perle when x-hit's are involved, walmart turban is not yet hard to get although you need more gil to buy the coins instead of using IS if unlucky but otherwise it's easy to get, Ace's sabatons is a 100% drop and there are enough people spamming empy from the mob(which just happens to be soloable too) that simply asking if you can have the drop is bound to work eventually, i'll admit homam legs is actually trouble to get thanks to the time restrictions on limbus and that the tonberry for aces hose isn't anything id expect a noob to get easily killed but in the end it means that perle is already beaten if a person has some/any help at all and can be beaten within a days worth of effort.
That same day's worth of effort can also obtain several +1 pieces if people you know wish to focus on putting one at a point to do away with full perle.

I've only seen clips of it bein soloed at 90, not saying ur wrong mind you...thats one bad lil taru...but 1 person doing it and saying soloable by some jobs at 80 are 2 different things. Makes it sound commonplace and is misleading. But this game is full of people saying everything is soloable so, not at all surprising.

[Khajit]

The original point was when i mentioned the solo is that if it was soloable at 80 then 10 levels later it can easily be taken down by a pt or less of the "average" player. It being taken down by a single party was already increasingly commonplace at 75 The only reason the solos aren't commonplace is because it takes forever to do so and there are much more fun things to kill instead that have non outdated drops ( barring haidate for an increasingly small job pool with it being relegated to a misc gearswap for some)aka just about everything in abyssea.

[Harpalina]

AF3+2 not being sold by a vendor does not make Perle good gear. It's already been mentioned that it is passable at best for new/returning players. However, it's not something to get comfortable in. It is bad gear. It is better than being naked, but you want to get out of it ASAP. Considering all AF3+1 can be solo'd in Quests if someone doesn't have the playtime to kill the NMs, there's really no reason to advocate Perle.

I shouldn't need to tell anyone wearing Perle that Perle is crap. They should know that it is crap, and be on their way to replace it. I highly doubt anyone, even on BG, would fault players who are actively working on better gear. It's only people who stop, settle with Perle, and decide that it's "good enough for them" that get ragged on.

I agree to a certain degree. Perle shouldn't be advocated to be the best gear, but the stats aren't half bad. They're excellent in the 78-80 range. Maybe even a little higher than that. Yeah everyone should strive to get the AF3+1's or +2's but I don't think you should be admonished for wearing Perle/Teal/Aurore gear. Like I have mentioned earlier, I'm wearing 2 to 3 pieces of the gear, mostly due to gear swapping of WS mods. And if a player doesn't have the means to solo every seal for all five pieces of their AF3's, then they don't have the means. Does it make them nooby? Not in the least. But I do agree that being complacent is where noobishness hits; one should always strive to be better.

[Raka]

As long as you don't use full Empyrean(un-upgraded), Perle is fine in my book. o.oy

[TearValerin]

I agree to a certain degree. Perle shouldn't be advocated to be the best gear, but the stats aren't half bad. They're excellent in the 78-80 range. Maybe even a little higher than that. Yeah everyone should strive to get the AF3+1's or +2's but I don't think you should be admonished for wearing Perle/Teal/Aurore gear. Like I have mentioned earlier, I'm wearing 2 to 3 pieces of the gear, mostly due to gear swapping of WS mods. And if a player doesn't have the means to solo every seal for all five pieces of their AF3's, then they don't have the means. Does it make them nooby? Not in the least. But I do agree that being complacent is where noobishness hits; one should always strive to be better.
To me, yes it does make them noobish, because anyone can go out and get a shout group to get your AF done. I went around thinking it was difficult without a proper LS, and was proven wrong. I now have a full set of +1 or 2 AF3 for my jobs, from shout groups, and being a big boy rather than sitting around and complaining its too hard.

[Harpalina]

To me, yes it does make them noobish, because anyone can go out and get a shout group to get your AF done. I went around thinking it was difficult without a proper LS, and was proven wrong. I now have a full set of +1 or 2 AF3 for my jobs, from shout groups, and being a big boy rather than sitting around and complaining its too hard.

Well, to each his/her own. I don't base a player solely on ones' accomplishments (i.e. gear.), but more so on how they play their character. I try not to make petty judgments.

[Harpalina]

And also another thing to add, I would rather take someone who has full Perle gear and can perform their job well, than someone with full AF3+2 thinking their sh*t don't stink and treat other players like crap.

[Yarly]

full perle or bust!
best gearset in the game, use it forever.

[TearValerin]

Well, to each his/her own. I don't base a player solely on ones' accomplishments (i.e. gear.), but more so on how they play their character. I try not to make petty judgments.

About 3 weeks ago, I was in a La Theine worms alliance. There were 12 melee DDs, each wearing pre 75 equipment, or full cruor set, and 1 drg with a few pieces AF3, and AF2+1. Her Drakesbane outparsed the party by 65%. When you have 6-8 DDs spamming their strongest WS to kill one worm, yet the drg next to you is soloing that worm, we have a problem. Lazy DDs are bad DDs. If they make excuses for not having at least the next best thing (like a thf wearing 50s daggers because he thought they looked cool, or mnk using afflictors for same reason) then they are no good to me.

[Harpalina]

About 3 weeks ago, I was in a La Theine worms alliance. There were 12 melee DDs, each wearing pre 75 equipment, or full cruor set, and 1 drg with a few pieces AF3, and AF2+1. Her Drakesbane outparsed the party by 65%. When you have 6-8 DDs spamming their strongest WS to kill one worm, yet the drg next to you is soloing that worm, we have a problem. Lazy DDs are bad DDs. If they make excuses for not having at least the next best thing (like a thf wearing 50s daggers because he thought they looked cool, or mnk using afflictors for same reason) then they are no good to me.

I'm sure Atma played a role too. And I'm not saying a LV 50 weapon on a LV 90 character should be worn, no matter how uber the stats might be. My point is 78 gear on a 90 isn't that far of a stretch. It's only a 12 level difference. And again, the stats aren't horrible. I'm not advocating full perle is end all be all. I've never worn full perle myself, but to completely dismiss someone just because of their gear is a little superficial. And if they have good atmas, then it balances things out, in my opinion.

[TearValerin]

I'm sure Atma played a role too. And I'm not saying a LV 50 weapon on a LV 90 character should be worn, no matter how uber the stats might be. My point is 78 gear on a 90 isn't that far of a stretch. It's only a 12 level difference. And again, the stats aren't horrible. I'm not advocating full perle is end all be all. I've never worn full perle myself, but to completely dismiss someone just because of their gear is a little superficial. And if they have good atmas, then it balances things out, in my opinion.
Im just saying there are a lot of lazy dogpiles of DDs out there who think what they have on is good enough, when it's just plain awful. I'm not belittling perle, some of them are aspiring to be more, but some DDs just make me sick, like this one who told a dude to get out of Walahra Turban because haste takes time to proc >_>.

[Harpalina]

Im just saying there are a lot of lazy dogpiles of DDs out there who think what they have on is good enough, when it's just plain awful. I'm not belittling perle, some of them are aspiring to be more, but some DDs just make me sick, like this one who told a dude to get out of Walahra Turban because haste takes time to proc >_>.

Uhm...I'm not really sure what that last statement means lol. I always have Walmart Turban on for TP.

[TearValerin]

Uhm...I'm not really sure what that last statement means lol. I always have Walmart Turban on for TP.

He meant haste is like an additional effect on a weapon, like it has a small % chance to activate... which is incredibly wrong as we all know.

[Harpalina]

He meant haste is like an additional effect on a weapon, like it has a small % chance to activate... which is incredibly wrong as we all know.

Uh? Wtf that doesn't make sense!

[Willowrose]

That was sort of the point ^

I will admit to being one of the noob dd's in full perle. It's a temporary problem I am working to solve. Alas until after abyssea came out, I was a whm full time. So back in the days when I ran an end game linkshell and we were constantly gearing up dds, I didn't think to pick up a few of the shiny pieces for myself. I don't have sky/sea/dynamis gear for my sam. Perle seemed like the best choice for damage. I also have a tp build(not the recommended one, but it works). I also busted my butt to get the shiny atmas before ever thinking of using the job. I'm currently working on my empyrean set. I'd be more than happy to buy ah gear for sam if someone could point me to something better for sam until I can get the af3 +2(or +1 for that matter), but until then, it's full Perle or nothing.

[Siviard]

I don't mind people wearing full Perle as long as they are competent in whatever job they are on, and the weapons/accessories they are using are up to par. I fully understand that Perle set is a very good alternative to Empyrean +1 armor if they haven't obtained it yet so that I'm fine with.

[HFX7686]

Pearl/Aurore/Teal is fine with me as long as the person wearing it understands that it is not the best gear, is not final gear for those slots, and is actively working on getting Emp gear, which is not that difficult to obtain really.

[Kingofgeeks]

seriously don't listen to haters, if they wanna complain about you wearing Perle, then drop their pt. If you're tanking with Perle, they prolly need you, stick it to them by leaving. if they didn't need you, then oh well. don't let them ruin your experiance

[Valefor4life]

Beggars can't be choosy.

[Willowrose]

In all honesty, we low man just about everything we do. My sam, in crappy perle gear and a dnc that is new to the game and is still learning the ropes(she sort of powerleveled two jobs to 90 since starting in september) tank most of the abyssea NMs for the +1 seals. We need to bounce hate to do this effectively, and let's be honest here. She's in crappy gear and still learning to play. So if I were to be decked out in massive sam kick the mob into next week gear, I'd be tanking constantly. My whm would murder me. I'll deal with the Perle while she's learning her way around(she's learning fast) and work on the empyrean +1 and +2 sets while doing so. Then we'll see just how much I can teach a tank in less than a year :D Typically when I'm in alliance fights I'm on whm anyhow. So no one really gets a shot at dissing my gear choices lol. I can assure you, the whm is pimped out. Working on +2ing the new set, but anything that could be obtained for whm prior to abyssea, I have or I have something better now. Already got the whm set +1'd.

[Auredant]

Was just remembering how when Perle first came out everyone was like whoa!!! that shiz is hot!
People were shellin out a mil for each piece minimum. i was definitely a full perle user...and used parts of teal as well...but i REFUSE to wear the PINK!

[Harpalina]

Was just remembering how when Perle first came out everyone was like whoa!!! that shiz is hot!
People were shellin out a mil for each piece minimum. i was definitely a full perle user...and used parts of teal as well...but i REFUSE to wear the PINK!

I don't have any jobs high enough to wear the aurore armor so I wouldn't know lol. I remember this too. I was like, 'WTF people are freaking dumb to shell out so much money when cruor is easy to obtain!"

[Tsukino_Kaji]

...but i REFUSE to wear the PINK!Pre-WWII propoganda this was a masculine color.

[Harpalina]

Pre-WWII propoganda this was a masculine color.

I wish this was like Facebook...I officially like this comment! :O

[Zyeriis]

Pre-WWII propoganda this was a masculine color.

Hurray for WWII propaganda? Shouldn't have gone there but, I did. Least one good thing came out of it.

[Mirage]

If WW2 had demasculinized blue instead, you'd be saying hurray for that too.

[Cupofnoodles]

Kingofgeeks,
Can you give the creator of your SIG credit for his intellectual property that you are using?
Thanks,
CON

[cnedra]

Basicly all the 3 sets there are are good at some points for gear swap macros why not use it. But i think full sets u shouldn't wear too long and start working on af3 cause basicly full sets are kinda the cheapest solution for any job.