View Full Version : Bard problems. (Range of ballad and minuet caps)
Rambus
09-25-2012, 10:07 PM
First all wiki says I get a 81 cap in minuet but I am only hitting 81 with 2 emp +2 meaning I get 1 str turned into adding 1 more attack.
+81 Attack with Apollo's Flute, merits and 680 skill.
Hard cap appears to be +72 (or +81 with Apollo's Flute).
^it says nothing about emp body -.-
I take body off and get 76.
My total totals 710 and I have Apollo's Flute
Then minuet IV gives 74 attack with emp +2 body and 75 with 2 emp +2
but cap is listed as 66 ..
I am so confused.
Also why is ballad III not as big range as ballad II or Ballad I with Crooner's Cithara?
Then I do not get why I can play minuet V> minuet IV> minuet V again and get no effect till I wait like 30 extra seconds when skill and instrument is the same.
I do not have problems overriding different songs though.
I just returned to FFXI after like a year, and never took a serious look at brd before so don't hurt me -.-
Nawesemo
09-25-2012, 11:56 PM
Merits?(dont play bard but, back when I was bringing rdm up to speed I was freaking out at my skill levels cuz they didnt add up right, then remembered merits, /facepalm)
Rambus
09-26-2012, 12:37 AM
no merits is listed for V but idk about IV, I >Think< my base matches that then add in all the bonuses. I am not sure about IV that is why I asked about that since I am a bit confused since wiki did not have a full list for it. (Not sure how the new gear should effect it)
+81 Attack with Apollo's Flute, merits and 680 skill.
Hard cap appears to be +72 (or +81 with Apollo's Flute).
^ for V what I was saying is I have more skill then this but I am getting less attack bonus.
Plus the different ranges for ballad III is driving me nuts because I don't hit people with it (like people i don't want it to hit, then I hit them with ballad II)
Reain
09-26-2012, 01:36 AM
First all wiki says I get a 81 cap in minuet but I am only hitting 81 with 2 emp +2 meaning I get 1 str turned into adding 1 more attack.
^it says nothing about emp body -.-
I take body off and get 76.
My total totals 710 and I have Apollo's Flute
Then minuet IV gives 74 attack with emp +2 body and 75 with 2 emp +2
but cap is listed as 66 ..
I am so confused.
Look here http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Minuet
Also why is ballad III not as big range as ballad II or Ballad I with Crooner's Cithara?
Stringed range is affected by the amount of stringed skill you have. Low level songs need less skill to get maximum radius.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/String_Instrument_Skill
I.E. low level songs get huge AoE and higher level songs get smaller AoE.
Then I do not get why I can play minuet V> minuet IV> minuet V again and get no effect till I wait like 30 extra seconds when skill and instrument is the same.
I do not have problems overriding different songs though.
I just returned to FFXI after like a year, and never took a serious look at brd before so don't hurt me -.-
This is just how songs are sadly. You have to wait to reapply or overwrite it with a different song.
Babekeke
09-26-2012, 04:31 AM
no merits is listed for V but idk about IV, I >Think< my base matches that then add in all the bonuses. I am not sure about IV that is why I asked about that since I am a bit confused since wiki did not have a full list for it. (Not sure how the new gear should effect it)
+81 Attack with Apollo's Flute, merits and 680 skill.
Hard cap appears to be +72 (or +81 with Apollo's Flute).
^ for V what I was saying is I have more skill then this but I am getting less attack bonus.
Plus the different ranges for ballad III is driving me nuts because I don't hit people with it (like people i don't want it to hit, then I hit them with ballad II)
You still didn't actually answer the question: Do you have 5/5 minuet merits?
Rambus
09-26-2012, 06:02 AM
I have full merits yes, I thought I explained that when I was comparing mine to wiki.
About the ballad range cap. I read somewhere we got the caps easily for all things, interesting guess I do not meet that yet.
I guess unlike other things the singing does not effect this? My string is still a bit low for 99 so I can see that.
So then I have +4 total from gear right? that makes 62+13=75 and merits make it another +5 attack? only 1 attack is added for each merit? does that sound right? I guess the normal wiki is a bit off with those caps?
I thought the merits would effect it more then just adding 1 attack per merit, meh =/
This is just how songs are sadly. You have to wait to reapply or overwrite it with a different song.
No different songs over-right them right away, it is same song that won't
Rambus
09-26-2012, 11:58 PM
So i was testing the ranges at 301 string skill.
I even found a point in distance where ballad I hits but ballad II doesn't.
I also made someone reach a distance where Pianissimo songs ( wind or string) or single target songs could outreach ballad I casted normally.
The difference of single casting, ballad I, and ballad II is only a few walking steps each though.
Is this normal?
if it is I take it each song has it's own maximum?