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Cruxus
08-08-2012, 10:08 AM
I am aware that there was mention on this topic quite some time ago, but I haven't seen any word touching on this subject. With the upcoming changes to Salvage, either like dynamis(revamped entrance and time extension/drop systems) or nyzul isle (same content with updated mob sets and NMs), comes the hopes of people being able to realistically work on a mythic weapon. That being said, what happened to lowering the time it takes for the 3 beastmen kings to respawn after being slain via besieged or outright in their throne rooms?

I ask this after having an alternate account sitting in Gulool Ja Ja's throne room, behind his throne to be precise, for a week straight without having him pop let alone his death recorded in the chat log to show that it was even killed.

I've searched online and can't seem to find any information on how long respawn after previous death, only info on how long it takes after Besieged is over (pending said King is not slain)...

Tile
08-08-2012, 10:35 AM
I got troll and lamia no problem but Lizard is never up it seems.

Cruxus
08-08-2012, 10:39 AM
Maybe he's like a chameleon and is actually in the room...but all camouflaged waiting for me to leave to go back to watching TV or something...

Trisscar
08-08-2012, 12:40 PM
I think an official commented that the respawn rate of them would be changed, let me see if I can dig it up.

Found it:



Spawn timer reduction for Gulool Ja Ja, Gurfurlur the Menacing, and Medusa you say? In addition to these three baddies, we are actually looking into reducing the spawn time for all HNMs! The idea is to give you all more opportunities to fight these elusive, notorious enemies. However, please understand that by eliminating the “time cost” associated with them, it will result in other types of costs to arise (for example, having to obtain triggers from battlefields to spawn Fafnir/Behemoth/Adamantoise).

Tile
08-09-2012, 12:30 AM
lord I forgot about that post, bet they add a pop item you have to track down along with the 3 keys. it'll be something from the ISNM fights no one does anymore.

Trisscar
08-09-2012, 12:38 AM
lord I forgot about that post, bet they add a pop item you have to track down along with the 3 keys. it'll be something from the ISNM fights no one does anymore.

Um, what? According to the post I quoted we'll be looking at sharply reduced spawn timers (maybe something on the order of 15-24 hours), not forced spawn.

Tile
08-09-2012, 02:18 AM
Um, what? According to the post I quoted we'll be looking at sharply reduced spawn timers (maybe something on the order of 15-24 hours), not forced spawn.

mostly a joke, besides what they say and what happens months later is rarely the same

wish12oz
08-09-2012, 02:22 AM
I've searched online and can't seem to find any information on how long respawn after previous death, only info on how long it takes after Besieged is over (pending said King is not slain)...

Thats cause the drops were always trash so no one camped them and no one knows.(´・ω・`)

Sureal
08-09-2012, 02:32 AM
hautclaire says hi to you

wish12oz
08-09-2012, 02:47 AM
hautclaire says hi to you

I really, really hope this comment isn't directed at me like that sword dropped from a TOA Beastmen King. Because if it is, I'm going to have to make fun of you for a long time.

Trisscar
08-09-2012, 02:49 AM
mostly a joke, besides what they say and what happens months later is rarely the same

Perhaps, but I honestly don't see any reasonable alternatives except maybe adding spawn items to ZNM or something. I just can't see them adding it to ISNM though.


I really, really hope this comment isn't directed at me like that sword dropped from a TOA Beastmen King. Because if it is, I'm going to have to make fun of you for a long time.

Isn't that sword from Khimeria? What does that have to do with the Beastmen Kings?

wish12oz
08-09-2012, 02:51 AM
Isn't that sword from Khimeria? What does that have to do with the Beastmen Kings?

That's why I'm going to be forced to make fun of that guy!

EDIT:

Perhaps, but I honestly don't see any reasonable alternatives except maybe adding spawn items to ZNM or something. I just can't see them adding it to ISNM though.

Watch them make the pop item drop in place of mucible scoria (however you spell it) from Pandemonium Warden. That has SE written all over it.

Demon6324236
08-09-2012, 02:51 AM
Isn't that sword from Khimeria? What does that have to do with the Beastmen Kings?

That was Wish's point I'm sure.

Trisscar
08-09-2012, 02:53 AM
That's why I'm going to be forced to make fun of that guy!


That was Wish's point I'm sure.

I see, please forgive me.

Tile
08-09-2012, 05:52 AM
Perhaps, but I honestly don't see any reasonable alternatives except maybe adding spawn items to ZNM or something. I just can't see them adding it to ISNM though.

I say ISNM because the only reason to do them now is for chocobo eggs if you feel like raising one, it would kinda suck to have to build up a ZNM t4 pop for the Hydra in order to have a chance for him to drop a pop. but that would probably make more since

Cruxus
08-09-2012, 08:51 AM
Thats cause the drops were always trash so no one camped them and no one knows.(´・ω・`)

Yeah...I figured as much, the drops from these fools weren't even that decent @ 75... I'll keep my alt in room until he pops though :/

Reiterpallasch
08-11-2012, 06:20 PM
lord I forgot about that post, bet they add a pop item you have to track down along with the 3 keys. it'll be something from the ISNM fights no one does anymore.
Oh god please no. This is SE we're talking about. Knowing them, they will require an item that only drops from the BCNMs that open up when the beastmen control the astral candescence or something.


hautclaire says hi to you
So many camped for that thing and I don't know why. It was never a good weapon by any measure, yet people used to think it was somehow the best thing ever. Anyone that actually used one for more than town gear was just plain bad.

Tile
08-12-2012, 02:57 PM
Oh god please no. This is SE we're talking about. Knowing them, they will require an item that only drops from the BCNMs that open up when the beastmen control the astral candescence or something.

that would jsut be to funny.