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Varchesis
03-18-2011, 06:54 PM
Is the counter for traverser stones still ticking?
Joachim:
:eek: O M G! I gotta' start charging gil, cruor or somethin' for these...
Nattack
03-18-2011, 07:21 PM
I imagine it isn't as servertime isnt running (well, id imagine it is, but the software on the server is not, and thus it cannot increment the stones)
Seriha
03-18-2011, 07:46 PM
A similar thread was on Alla recently, so I'll just post my reply from there:
Something I've found in some schools of programming is that time is measured in seconds from a specific point, 19:00 EST on Dec 31 1969. Each second that ticks past this date is added onto the counter. Now, if you perhaps unlocked Abyssea on June 03, 2010 at 5pm exactly, 1,275,598,800 seconds would have passed from that time. This number will become your starting point for the stone refresh.
By default, we know the starting refresh time comes in 20 hour increments (72,000 seconds), possibly enhanced to 8 hours (28,800 seconds) depending on your abyssites. This number isn't important just yet, though. The first check the game will go through is to subtract your start time from the current. So, using the above and 00:00:00 Mar 15 2011 (1,300,161,600 seconds), we find that 24,562,800 seconds have passed.
Now that we have that number, we take your refresh rate and divide the seconds into that.
20h: 341.15
16h: 427.437
12h: 568.583
08h: 852.875
Since we can't have fractions of a stone, more than likely just truncates it off. Anyway, you then take the numbers harvested above and subtract the amount of stones you've spent. This will give you your current total. This is also why people who were sitting at almost no stones wouldn't see their supply increase much after getting one of the abyssites.
Overall, SE's chosen start date doesn't matter much (It could be 00:00:00 Jan 01 2000 for all I know), but it's probably tied into the seed for their random number generator. Regardless, seconds are always passing and it's more than likely that whenever the servers come back up, you will have more stones. I'm doubtful they'll have paused auctions or gardening, as they more than likely also have time stamp checks that are processed with every game tick.
Additionally, stones still accumulated when servers were otherwise down for maintenance and updates. Don't worry about it. Enjoy however many you get once the servers are back up.
Yeah, definitely still accumulating.
NightDagger
03-18-2011, 08:59 PM
Yeah, definitely still accumulating.
WOW 415 posts .....now are those mostly from the "Change level cap in abyssea" topic?
You are famous man, everyone talks about you ............
Mordanthos
03-18-2011, 09:02 PM
how can u even be worrying about this. Its nearly impossible to use them up. Im still on my very first 3 i ever got and have 8 backups. I always end up gaining more time than i came in with on exp parties, or merit parties, or primarily from Key Users
WOW 415 posts .....now are those mostly from the "Change level cap in abyssea" topic?
Meh, i'd be higher, but i've been busy. Probably about 100-150 posts or so between the various abyssea threads.
Chronofantasy
03-18-2011, 09:11 PM
This is great news! I was practically down to no stones by the time the servers went down. I've been building fame and doing quests as well in all the zones to try and get atma of the savior lately. I think right before the servers went down I used by my last set of stones since I assumed that my stones would rebuild while the game is down.
In exactly one week for full days worth I know we should get about 21 stones if we reduced it down to 8 hours with abyssites. If the game really doesn't come back up until a month, then that'll give us approx. 84 stones. The servers going down are a good thing I guess. I was actually planning to take a month break from the game in April anyways since I have to prepare to pack up to move soon, then I got school work and exams in April on top of that. Plus I wanted to rebuild my stones. At least we won't have to worry about being behind anyone with our player's absense from the game for however long it takes for the servers to go back up.
Komori
03-18-2011, 09:18 PM
I had, I think 279 stones when the server went down. I can only imagine what it'll be when it comes back up lol. And I believe I have one of the abyssites that helps them build.
Varchesis
03-19-2011, 03:25 AM
how can u even be worrying about this. Its nearly impossible to use them up. Im still on my very first 3 i ever got and have 8 backups. I always end up gaining more time than i came in with on exp parties, or merit parties, or primarily from Key Users
who said I was worried lol
it's staggering the amount of stones that will be obtained. Will make it much more fun to do solo quests now w/o worrying about draining stones
how can u even be worrying about this. Its nearly impossible to use them up. Im still on my very first 3 i ever got and have 8 backups. I always end up gaining more time than i came in with on exp parties, or merit parties, or primarily from Key Users
Since all you've done is xp/merit parties, you obviously have no experience in how easy it is to blow through stones when doing quests or farming NMs. With that said, I had over 300 last time I checked, so I'm in no trouble - but my LS usually tries to farm time while we farm NMs - but that's cause we usually have 1 or 2 ppl that are always running low before the evening ever begins.
Komori
03-19-2011, 03:39 AM
I'll probably have 300-500 and I know I always keep 5 in my KI.
Nattack
03-19-2011, 04:46 AM
i reiterate how easy it is to use stones up if you solo or hunt items. exp should always keep your time up. if not, your doing it wrong - considering alot of jobs can solo their own time extensions, as i found out while trying to get my iga butts.
and it could be possible that stones accumulate retroactively, that would also require a value that stores how many youve taken.
its kind of difficult to test, but we'll know their approach come server boot
Komori
03-19-2011, 05:29 AM
A DEV answered the question, we are getting stones as we speak.
RAIST
03-19-2011, 05:29 AM
confirmation from SE. Plants will wither, stones will accumulate.
Raist
Hey everyone,
Most of you may have read the follow-up on PlayOnline news regarding the servers. (for those of you that haven’t here is a link: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news20547.shtml)
First of all I just wanted to say from myself and on behalf of the rest of the Community Team, thank you so much for being patient and understanding in these tragic times. We’re really impressed and moved by how strongly you all support Japan and your efforts to donate.
With the servers being down, many of you are wondering what’s going on with Vana’diel time and your plants, traverser stones, besieged, etc. Pretty much, just think of this as really long server maintenance, which means that unfortunately your plants will be withered, but the number of traverser stones Joachim sets aside for you will have increased, and besiege will pick up where it was left off.
We will give you updates on the situation and again thank you very much for your kind words and compassion.
Tsukino_Kaji
03-19-2011, 06:04 AM
Is the counter for traverser stones still ticking?
Joachim:No, the servers are off. So as such, all the junk is still on AH, you'll still have to wait for your next *** cleanse to get into limbus, that 2hr you blew before the shutdown still hasn't come back yet.
Ezikiel
03-19-2011, 06:20 AM
No, the servers are off. So as such, all the junk is still on AH, you'll still have to wait for your next colen cleanse to get into limbus, that 2hr you blew before the shutdown still hasn't come back yet.
the stones are going up